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    The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes "Come the Conqueror" Talkback (Spoilers)

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    Discuss this all-new episode of The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes debuting today at 10:00am (ET) on Disney XD!

    The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes "Come the Conqueror"
    Episode Premiere Date: January 16th, 2011
    Kang’s invasion of Earth begins in earnest! A fleet of ships from the future unleash war on the planet, and the Avengers are helpless to stop it. But while Iron Man searches for Kang himself, Captain America takes charge of the Avengers… but to fight a war, you need an army. And Wasp knows where Cap can get one. Welcome to the other dimensional prison called 42, maintained by a robot called Ultron.

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    I liked that little "who the hell you think you're talking to?" look Hulk gave Cap when he told him to free Giant Man, then went ahead and took the order after Cap yelled, "MOVE!"

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    Another really good episode. Expected to see more super hero cameos during the invasion scenes but won't nitpick. I loved the scope of the episode as well. It had a "big fight" feel. Steadily we're seeing Cap assert himself in a leadership role more and more each episode. It almost gave me chills when he cried "Avengers assemble!" with his shield raised. Unleashing the army of Ultrons was an unexpected surprise, but now we can see the seeds being sewn for the inevitable Ultron turn. Good stuff all around.

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    A great episode for the most part but not without some issues...
    The self-repairing tech of the robots seems to have been dropped since after the first time i don't recall them ever getting up again... might have been nice if it were the case that the robots were connected to the armada ships, so when those disappeared the robots disappeared as well... unless that was the case and i just missed it and need to watch the episode again... Though i think those aramada ships went down a bit too easily; i mean I would think they would atleast have the kind of sheilding that Kang and his chair had... Also I thought it was really stupid how it took Tony so long to figure out Kang was in space... Honestly I think that's the first place I'd look; space seems like the best place to be to overlook a worldwide invasion. I figured the whole "where are you!?" would be something a bit more complicated than Tony just looking in the wrong place; Like Kang had some serious cloaking tech and they would need to hack one of the armada ships to find him... and would have appreciated more superhero cameos, but we still have one more episode

    Though the episode had a lot of great action, some good chemistry going on between Hawkeye and Hulk, and Cap is showing yet more signs about who should be leading this team. And it's nice to see how this will work in ultron down the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    Though i think those aramada ships went down a bit too easily; i mean I would think they would atleast have the kind of sheilding that Kang and his chair had...
    Perhaps the power curve increases geometrically as the space protected by an energy shield increases; small shapes can be shielded, but spacecraft are beyond the ability?


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    I figured the whole "where are you!?" would be something a bit more complicated than Tony just looking in the wrong place; Like Kang had some serious cloaking tech and they would need to hack one of the armada ships to find him...
    Especially as when the Damocles first does its time transition the Kang-Minion declares that the "cloaking is in place and they are invisible to current technology" (or something like that).

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    I had the same issues with the episode Monte did. Was expecting a bit more from the whole self-repairing robot deal, and I had hoped that it wouldn't just be Tony looking in the wrong area for Kang. Also would have been nice to get some real cameos of other heroes fighting. Was odd how we only got the Black Knight. Otherwise I enjoyed the episode, especially how Cap took control of the team as battle continued.

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    I love this show because of how huge the scope of it is, epic stuff. I was really excited when I heard Cap say "Avengers Assemble!", and I got some goosebumps when Hank reprogrammed the Ultron army to know what violence is. No way that will turn out well.
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    I thought it was a pretty intense episode with lots of great moments. I loved it.

    Some of the action in New York really brought back memories of the teaser video that made it online when the series was first announced a couple of years back.
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    Once more, the skill of the creative team is shining like a star in the darkness. Each character got a little time in the spotlight, each one got a chance to shine. Other comments::

    * Is that Jasper Sitwell's first appearance on the SHIELD helicarrier?

    * If you didn't smile when Captain America saved the kids, and then get a shiver when he raised his shield and cried "Avengers Assemble!" you have no soul! *grins*

    * Hulk and Thor's contest to see which of them can destroy the most of the enemies. Shades of Gimli and Legolas!

    * Calling Captain America "Old Man"? That's pretty close to the Hawkeye I know and love, circa Avengers V.1 #20 or so!

    * The Black Knight cameo! I wish there had been more of them!

    * Stark's half-serious growing resentment of Captain America being right all the time - and Ant-Man's reminder that that's how the rest of them feel about Iron Man.

    * If the Invasion Saucers vanish back to their own time, and that timeline is gone, where do they end up? De-materialized?

    * Does anyone else find cheering on Ultrons to be... heretical?

    * Darned cliffhanger ending!

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    This episode was intense! Everyone got their fair share of screen time, my favs are Hawkeye/Hulk team and Ant-man/Wasp. We now see how Ultron will rebel in future episodes also like his new voice because it reminds me of Brainiac, is Wally Wingert doing the voice or someone else? It does have that Corey Burton sound.

    Also, i'm surprise that no one has mention this but at the beginning of the episode when the invasion started we saw people caught by the explosions and cars where falling at them, i mean people do get caught in the middle of a fight or invasion but that scene was showing people getting killed.

    Anyway this was a good episode and can't wait to see the final part of the Kang saga, if this invasion was tough can't imaging how the Skrull/Kree invasion will end up, not to mention the Ultron invasion, did anyone felt chills when one of the Ultron robots enter at one of the ships to destroy it? When i saw it was like whoa it looks frightening.
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    Awesome episode, an great portrayal of the Avengers facing a threat on a larger scale than anything they've dealt with before. Some highlights:

    -"I found bigger stingers." Wasp is basically the weakest member of the team on her own, and I was wondering how she would be able to help out. It was a great idea to have her take a Quinjet, she was badass!

    -The invasion starting out where it just seems to be in New York, then the eastern seaboard of the U.S., and then finally we see that it's going on all over the world. I had been wondering why Kang was starting in NYC, so it was great to see how badly the odds were really stacked against the Avengers.

    -It was kinda funny how, just as Iron Man is using his cool technology to figure out that Kang was behind the attack, Kang's giant head shows up to rob him of the sense of accomplishment.

    -Speaking of that, I thought it was a nice touch how the Avengers didn't realize that they were in a continuation of last episode! They figured it was just this week's latest bad guy. Props to T'Challa for being the first to figure it out.

    -Hawkeye was fun in this ep - even without his arrows he still kept fighting!

    -I liked seeing Cap take charge more and more, and Tony's flash of anger at Cap overstepping his authority before he realizes that it was a good idea. I'm betting on episode 21's Civil War-esque story to be the place where these two finally start butting heads for real.

    -"I'm teaching Ultron the concept of... 'violence.'" That was downright chilling, especially when the eyes and mouths turned red. The blue-lit Ultrons looked so much friendlier - as we saw with the guy they were rescuing, it doesn't matter how much good they're doing, they still seem downright sinister. I wasn't expecting Ultron's turn to start so soon - I wonder which will come first, Ultron or the Kree/Skrull War? Or worse, both at once?

    -All the fighting was great and showed off the skills of every Avenger. I love this show's animation.

    -I wonder where Carol Danvers and Doc Samson are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munkiman View Post
    -I wonder where Carol Danvers and Doc Samson are?
    Go go SHIELD Super Squad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munkiman View Post
    Awesome episode, an great portrayal of the Avengers facing a threat on a larger scale than anything they've dealt with before. Some highlights:

    -"I found bigger stingers." Wasp is basically the weakest member of the team on her own, and I was wondering how she would be able to help out. It was a great idea to have her take a Quinjet, she was badass!
    That was also my fav scene of Wasp, was wondering when they where going to use the Quinjet and the other tech that Tony did for the Team.


    -I liked seeing Cap take charge more and more, and Tony's flash of anger at Cap overstepping his authority before he realizes that it was a good idea. I'm betting on episode 21's Civil War-esque story to be the place where these two finally start butting heads for real.
    I think its a nice set of showing the 2 who should take leadership, this will not only affect the relation between Cap and Ironman but for everyone since they have different opinions on the 2 of them that they have to choose who side they will join.

    -"I'm teaching Ultron the concept of... 'violence.'" That was downright chilling, especially when the eyes and mouths turned red. The blue-lit Ultrons looked so much friendlier - as we saw with the guy they were rescuing, it doesn't matter how much good they're doing, they still seem downright sinister. I wasn't expecting Ultron's turn to start so soon - I wonder which will come first, Ultron or the Kree/Skrull War? Or worse, both at once?
    That was just creepy and how awesome they made it, i was thinking over and over on how they will turn Ultron's eye and mouth red as we seen in the comics and the DTV version, he's a robot of course but i thought it would be a bit too Terminator like that Ultron will rebel just like that, its a nice touch on showing Hank adding violence to Ultron's program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_of_doom View Post
    This episode was intense! Everyone got their fair share of screen time, my favs are Hawkeye/Hulk team and Ant-man/Wasp. We now see how Ultron will rebel in future episodes also like his new voice because it reminds me of Brainiac, is Wally Wingert doing the voice or someone else? It does have that Corey Burton sound.

    Also, i'm surprise that no one has mention this but at the beginning of the episode when the invasion started we saw people caught by the explosions and cars where falling at them, i mean people do get caught in the middle of a fight or invasion but that scene was showing people getting killed.

    Anyway this was a good episode and can't wait to see the final part of the Kang saga, if this invasion was tough can't imaging how the Skrull/Kree invasion will end up, not to mention the Ultron invasion, did anyone felt chills when one of the Ultron robots enter at one of the ships to destroy it? When i saw it was like whoa it looks frightening.
    I noticed people getting killed too....really surprised to see that on a Disney network! Not that I'm complaining. I thought it was a great episode and everybody pretty much summed up my thoughts although I'll add.

    - You can reallly see the change in leadership b/w Cap and Tony. Tony usually just yells "Go get em guys!" whereas Cap uses actual tactics. A welcome change.

    - Poor Tony. I feel like he's like Superman in JL Season 1. Underpowered and underappreciated. Is Jan the only team member who likes him?

    - Speaking of the JL it trips me out how the Avengers are sort of stuck on who is in charge whereas in the League it was never really an issue.

    - Have Hank and Jan ever been shown this favorably or as effective? I mean even in the comics?

    - The Ultrons were REALLY creepy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingBowser View Post
    - You can reallly see the change in leadership b/w Cap and Tony. Tony usually just yells "Go get em guys!" whereas Cap uses actual tactics. A welcome change.

    - Speaking of the JL it trips me out how the Avengers are sort of stuck on who is in charge whereas in the League it was never really an issue.
    Well, I think its overstating it to call the "Avengers stuck on who is in charge"; the members of well-aware of the dynamic of "I built and fund the team, so I'm in charge" vs "I have training and experience leading strategic and tactical operations in the field".

    I feel for Tony, I really do - but at the end of the day, he's a tech guy made good with no training for his role as Iron Man, and against the likes of Blizzard he hasn't needed it. Captain America is stepping up to fill the void; people get killed when facing threats of the order of magnitude that the Avengers face.

    In fact, it reminds me of the kind of problem the Silicon Valley had; start-up CEOs are often unqualified to run the company they found when it gets beyond a dozen or so employees. The smart ones brought in CEOs to run the company while they retained ownership and pushed the technology further.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingBowser View Post
    - Poor Tony. I feel like he's like Superman in JL Season 1. Underpowered and underappreciated. Is Jan the only team member who likes him?
    I see what you mean - but they've also regressed Stark to his early Iron Man days. There is a lot of room for growth as he learns team management skills, field operations, and physical combat skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingBowser View Post
    - Have Hank and Jan ever been shown this favorably or as effective? I mean even in the comics?
    Depends on the writer and era, but yes, especially between 26 and 40, and in the Englehart era. Wasp also got to shine under Roger Stern.

    - The Ultrons were REALLY creepy.
    Its what they do. I wonder how many of the robots will survive the next episode?

    The way Yost (et al) is handling Ultron is IMO much more 3effective than the Roy Thomas introduction, and most of the subsequent appearances (except for the Busiek/Perez arc, which was... epic).

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    Come on guys - keeping an army of super intelligent robots is one thing, but teaching them the concept of violence and turning their eyes red? That's just playing with fire.

    Definitely a good episode; more or less the same alien invasion that we see in most super hero shows, but, not bad by any means. I liked the interplay between Cap and Iron Man, and Black Panther going back to Wakanda - a lot of depth, even if it's not given as much focus as it could be.

    I was hoping for more cameos, but I figure - hey, they're not giving Black Knight a model for one two-second scene and NOT doing it for anyone else. So I figure we'll be seeing him sooner rather than later, which is pretty cool if you ask me.

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    I'm still wondering who voiced Ultron but after looking at wiki seems like Tom Kane's voicing Ultron, like i said before when Ultron was speaking it reminds me of Corey Burton which gave me that creepy feeling when i hear Corey voicing a villain, i'm wondering if its Tom Kane will that be his official voice for Ultron or will he do his Ultron voice from The Next Avengers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munkiman View Post
    -"I found bigger stingers." Wasp is basically the weakest member of the team on her own, and I was wondering how she would be able to help out. It was a great idea to have her take a Quinjet, she was badass!
    The "Bigger Stingers" line was hilarious for me, because when I saw her flying th Quinjet, I immediately said: "I guess she found bigger stingers!"

    -I liked seeing Cap take charge more and more, and Tony's flash of anger at Cap overstepping his authority before he realizes that it was a good idea. I'm betting on episode 21's Civil War-esque story to be the place where these two finally start butting heads for real.
    I like to think that Tony will do what is best for the team and let Cap lead. Whatever his flaws, he does want to help people. I would hope he'll realize that with Cap as the leader, the Avengers could really kick ass. It's not like he'd be any less important, as the Tech-man. Though I may be downplaying his pride. If nothing else, as a Futurist, I would like to think he'll look ahead and say that it's for the future of the team.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingBowser View Post
    - You can reallly see the change in leadership b/w Cap and Tony. Tony usually just yells "Go get em guys!" whereas Cap uses actual tactics. A welcome change.

    - Poor Tony. I feel like he's like Superman in JL Season 1. Underpowered and underappreciated. Is Jan the only team member who likes him?
    Eh, I think despite their initial beef, Hank may be warming up to him. It's not like he hasn't proven his intentions are genuine. Plus that "That how we all feel about you" line seemed more along the lines of gentle teasing.

    Great ep. Showed us some future developments (no pun intended ), and had great action.

    Was I the only one expecting Hulk to say "THAT ONLY COUNTS AS ONE!" when Thor took out that multi-stacked robot in one go?
    The Hypocrite Rises....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Hypocrite View Post
    Was I the only one expecting Hulk to say "THAT ONLY COUNTS AS ONE!" when Thor took out that multi-stacked robot in one go?
    No sir, you were not!

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