Transformers Prime - "Shadowzone" - Talkback [05/14]

[The Huntsman]

Today @ 7:00 PM ET on The Hub

I completely forgot what day it was.

The kids are stranded with Skyquake in an alternate dimension during a GroundBridge malfunction.

[Lighthammer]

Save the last two parter, I think this episode is one of the first to really start moving the storyline forward.

It was one of the better episodes to date.

[HEATXZ]

Amazing episode :anime:
My favorite parts are Optimus Prime shot off Starscream's Arm and the funny scenes XD

[Neo Yi]

Alright, Megatron, I know I'm just repeating myself, but this is three strikes now. You let Optimus live twice in the last two episodes because of pride. Alright, fine, I got it. But this, this is unforgivable. Unless a latter episode gives me a very, very, very good reason why you let Starscream live (because this episode didn't), this is a stupid move. Period. Megs, you do not keep a traitor alive with the acknowledgement that you know Starscream tried to kill you. I don't even care if it's a pride issue anymore, this is one of the most cliche villain methods that I cannot abide; it's frustrating and it makes Megatron look less of an intimidating, respectable villain and more of an idiot. Look, I already knew Starscream - a very important character - wouldn't die in the middle of Season One, but it's a terrible plot device tacked on in order to keep a character alive.

Also, I still hate Miko. This girl just drives me bonkers with her near suicidal tendencies to leap in without thinking. But I will give this episode one thing, she apologized and learned her lesson. I'm a bit worried it won't stick, but it's a step.

Otherwise, it's an alright episode...at least in terms of its major A Plot; Skyquake's return is a nice continuity bonus, but not much of him and the kids really stuck out for me. What really kept me entertained was Starscream - he is simply just fabulous. He's the highlight of this series and everything he does is magnificent. His reaction to his busted arm? Hilarious. His hammy screeches towards Knockout? Lovely. Heck, I am glad he and Knockout are still interacting; I think the two have great chemistry onscreen and they make almost any scenes between the two very amusing. I was never a major Steve Blum fan, but his role as the traitorous second-in-command is fantastic.

[Monte]

Alright, Megatron, I know I'm just repeating myself, but this is three strikes now. You let Optimus live twice in the last two episodes because of pride. Alright, fine, I got it. But this, this is unforgivable. Unless a latter episode gives me a very, very, very good reason why you let Starscream live (because this episode didn't), this is a stupid move. Period. Megs, you do not keep a traitor alive with the acknowledgement that you know Starscream tried to kill you. I don't even care if it's a pride issue anymore, this is one of the most cliche villain methods that I cannot abide; it's frustrating and it makes Megatron look less of an intimidating, respectable villain and more of an idiot. Look, I already knew Starscream - a very important character - wouldn't die in the middle of Season One, but it's a terrible plot device tacked on in order to keep a character alive.

Ya, at the very least i was expecting megatron to atleast give us the line of reasoning that he was severely lacking in REAL decepticons and thus still had use of Starscream... This is part of why transformers animated Megatron is my favorite; because the very first thing he did when he got back was waste starscream... sure it didn't stick, but the point is that he tried(several times) and starscream survived by nothing more than shear luck... G1 Galvitron also killed starscream but that was after a long history of attempts at betrayal. Animated megs had no tolerance at all for treason... frankly i was kind of hoping Prime starscream would survive in a similar fashion; namely that Megatron does try to kill him, only for Starscream to survive thanks to dark energon

Also, I still hate Miko. This girl just drives me bonkers with her near suicidal tendencies to leap in without thinking. But I will give this episode one thing, she apologized and learned her lesson. I'm a bit worried it won't stick, but it's a step.

Ya i'm waiting to see if it actually sticks...

What really kept me entertained was Starscream - he is simply just fabulous. He's the highlight of this series and everything he does is magnificent. His reaction to his busted arm? Hilarious. His hammy screeches towards Knockout? Lovely. Heck, I am glad he and Knockout are still interacting; I think the two have great chemistry onscreen and they make almost any scenes between the two very amusing. I was never a major Steve Blum fan, but his role as the traitorous second-in-command is fantastic.

Yes, while Animated Megatron is my favorite megatron, Prime Starscream is my favorite starscream. The acting for him is just great in many ways and he's the only starscream that i would consider competent enough to lead. His treason aside, there does feel like theirs a decent reason why he's second in command

[Mandouga]

When they mentioned the two ground bridges "crossing the streams" (or something to that effect) it reminded me of Ghostbusters. I also noticed that Optimus literally "disarmed" Starscream, which made my laugh if only a little bit.

As for Miko, I don't think we should be so quick to assume that Aesop Amnesia will happen in this show (or if it has I either didn't notice or simply forgot). Maybe she really will learn her lesson. Whatever the case, I personally feel that the human characters are necessary. I feel that one way or the other, having human allies puts their mission into perspective, reminding them what they're fighting for.

[Avengers]

Alright, Megatron, I know I'm just repeating myself, but this is three strikes now. You let Optimus live twice in the last two episodes because of pride. Alright, fine, I got it. But this, this is unforgivable. Unless a latter episode gives me a very, very, very good reason why you let Starscream live (because this episode didn't), this is a stupid move. Period. Megs, you do not keep a traitor alive with the acknowledgement that you know Starscream tried to kill you. I don't even care if it's a pride issue anymore, this is one of the most cliche villain methods that I cannot abide; it's frustrating and it makes Megatron look less of an intimidating, respectable villain and more of an idiot. Look, I already knew Starscream - a very important character - wouldn't die in the middle of Season One, but it's a terrible plot device tacked on in order to keep a character alive.

Also, I still hate Miko. This girl just drives me bonkers with her near suicidal tendencies to leap in without thinking. But I will give this episode one thing, she apologized and learned her lesson. I'm a bit worried it won't stick, but it's a step.

Otherwise, it's an alright episode...at least in terms of its major A Plot; Skyquake's return is a nice continuity bonus, but not much of him and the kids really stuck out for me. What really kept me entertained was Starscream - he is simply just fabulous. He's the highlight of this series and everything he does is magnificent. His reaction to his busted arm? Hilarious. His hammy screeches towards Knockout? Lovely. Heck, I am glad he and Knockout are still interacting; I think the two have great chemistry onscreen and they make almost any scenes between the two very amusing. I was never a major Steve Blum fan, but his role as the traitorous second-in-command is fantastic.

Agreed, when he got up the sekond time and was like im much to attached to my old limb I was laughing pretty hard

Also the red car medic is hilarious he was getting so annoyed witn starscream, really funny

o and megatron is an idiot, he should kill him every series that is the point of the megatron and starscream's relatioship to show meg's wrath in its conclusion

And again I have to say human charecters suck in transformers, thats why beast wars is the best, the best is seeing the epic battle between prime and meg not seeing a girl get two people killed for pictures she can not show anyone

[G1Ravage]

Show's really picking up now. I'm especially enjoying the animation. Some of the smoothest since the Beast era. Also, I love any show meant for kids that allows two major villains to have a slow, paced argument with absolutely no music playing.

[Gold Guy]

I agree that Megatron should have murdered that conniving Starscream. He is such a sneak. As for those kids, they should leave the show. They cause more problems then they;re worth.

[Monte]

As for those kids, they should leave the show. They cause more problems then they;re worth.

Miko definitely needs to leave... unless this episode leads to SERIOUS development for her and changes her for the better, she will continue to be a drag... she's obviously meant to be an entertaining and funny character, but it fails most of the time and she just comes off as really annoying like most human sidekicks in this franchise. This episode only reminded me of why i hate her.

Jack has been kind of hit and miss... he's at his best when he's being the voice of reason and at his worst when he's trying to be useful. Really, tiny squishy meat bag vs giant robot; someone with the voice of a reason should know to have more caution(ya did not care for him in the airacnaid episode)

Raph however has been slowly growing on me. He annoyed me a bit early on because of his genius and understanding Bee, but on an emotional level he's been working alright. The previous episode with megatron's return was a nice high point for him when he went on about why Bee is special to him... i got nice little awe out of it.

[ktk]

Miko is the only human character I like on this show, but I have to admit that she came off pretty bad in this episode.

Overall, a nice little episode. Strange to see Skyquake make a one-off return as a mindless beast, presumably left in an alternate dimension never to be seen again.

[TurboMan]

This episode was simply heartless, there is nothing interesting about the human characters getting stuck in a random dimension where nothing to the plot happens, Megatron is extremely stupid and Starscream is a pathetic unfunny character, the extremely weak villains is what makes this show so hard to care about, what can the heroes fight if the menace is factualy dumb and useless? The best enemies so far were SCRAPLETS! THE MINDLESS EATING MACHINES!

Every episode I feel like I'm only watching it because it's Transformers because there surely isn't any quality in an area other than animation and voice acting.

I'll give it one more episode, if it fails to deliver I'm dropping this series forever. 15 episodes is enough to go somewhere and it didn't.

[Bat-Man]

Miko needs to leave, now.

[sparkykandy]

It was okay. I did find the beginning bit between Megatron and Starscream kind of fun, and it seems that Starscream continues to be the buttmonkey of this series, sort of. While it is pretty stupid of Megatron not to kill Starscream, I wonder if Megatron is just keeping Starscream around because he likes seeing Starscream in a lower position constantly being reminded of what he'll never have or something.

Hopefully, Miko gets some serious character development, and we'll see her become less reckless in the future. Or they find a way to make her useful or something.

[Mr. Hypocrite]

So I like others feel Miko needs to have some sense beaten into her. I haven't wanted to see a character in Transformers get hurt so badly since Animated Bumblebee.

And at the very least, he got shanked. (too bad Sari didn't seem happy about it, but hey, thems the breaks.)

I can totally picture Megatron's decision to keep Starscream around as just ego. He doesn't think Starscream could ever really be a threat. And also to put him in his place. Plus maybe there's a bit of the original series logic that Starscream is still useful. How I don't know.

Plus let's remember, this version of Megatron is 12 different kinds of Crazy. If there's a reason Starscream is still kicking, maybe it's only supposed to make sense to him.

[ABrown]

Show's really picking up now. I'm especially enjoying the animation. Some of the smoothest since the Beast era. Also, I love any show meant for kids that allows two major villains to have a slow, paced argument with absolutely no music playing.

I agree. I'm really starting to warm up to this show. I love the animation and the vocal cast.