'Batman' And 'Superman' Movie Deleted Scenes

[James Harvey]

Here's a collection of the majority of deleted scenes from Superman 2 and Batman Forever. I may not have 'em all, so feel free to add any that I missed!


Batman Forever

- Dr. Burton walking through the eerie, darkened corridors of Arkham Asylum while a vicious thunderstorm goes on outside. He passes cells with their occupants` names displayed on them, names including, intriguingly, Clayface, The Scarecrow, Poison Ivy and The Joker. Burton walks to a cell, where the guard greets him and says, "Hell of a night, huh Doc?". Burton replies, "Hell`s in here." The guard opens the cell door, and Burton walks in. He approaches a figure in the shadows he believes to be Two-Face. There is a flash of lightening, which reveals it is actually an orderly, bound and gagged. The ceiling of the cell has been blown out. Another flash shows that Two-Face has left a message, scrawled on the wall with blood; "THE BAT MUST DIE".

- The film was to open with this scene in Arkham Asylum, then go on to the Wayne Enterprises scene with Bruce meeting Edward Nygma for the first time. When Bruce sees the Batsignal from there, that`s to tell him to go to the Second Bank of Gotham to fight Two-Face. When Bruce goes into his office and slides down the tunnel, Alfred`s face appears and tells him, "I saw the signal sir. All is ready." That was to be the first time we see Alfred. Then Bruce lands, and he takes off his jacket. This is the first part of his original change into Batman, and the second part was the part actually used at start, with him taking his various weapons and Alfred saying, "Can I persuade you to take a sandwhich with you, sir?" This was all re-arranged, and the opening Arkham scene dropped altogether, to get into the action straight away.

-Both Bruce and Dick escorting Chase into the Nygmatech ball.

- Bruce and Alfred experimenting on one of the Riddler`s boxes in the Batcave.

-Batman standing on a building watching the Batsignal, exactly like in Batman. Robin appears and stands next to him. This scene was to be included until the last minute when it was replaced by the one of the dynamic duo running towards the camera, although pictures of it were printed in the official souvenir magazine and a computer-drawn version of it is used in Batman Forever - The Arcade Game, avaliable on Sega Saturn and PlayStation.

-Alfred telling Bruce that the Batcave has been destroyed - but not the cave beneath the cave. They stand on the Batmobile platform and it descends, taking them down to another cave where the new Sonar Batsuit, the Batboat and the Batwing are kept.

- After Batman saves Dick from the neon street gang, and Dick attempts to beat him up for the death of his parents, Dick collapses at his feet in tears, and Batman puts a comforting hand on his shoulder.

- Bruce watching with horror as he sees Two-Face about to shoot Dick`s family. Bruce tries to reach him, but Two-Face`s thugs block his path.

- After the casino robbery sequence where the Riddler attempts to punch a guy, the Batmobile arrives at what Batman believes is the crime scene. He leaps out, smashes down the door - and finds himself in a beauty salon, with girls laughing. This scene shows that the Riddler is using his electronics skills to throw Batman off the scent. This should have been included, because people were wondering why Batman doesn`t seem to attempt to stop Two-Face and the Riddler`s crime spree.

- Bruce Wayne driving his Jaguar to his first appointment with Chase.

- After Batman leaps out of the lift knocks down all Two-Face`s men in the bank, he says: "Going down?". This was used in the trailer, but not the actual film.

-Nygma watching Batman smash through the skylight and saying to Two-Face, "Harv, babe, I gotta be honest. Your entrance was good, his was better.". This was cut off, so we only hear him saying, "Your entrance was good, his was better."

-After the Riddler has told Chase he is counting on Batman trying to rescue her from Claw Island, he says, "Nap time, gorgeous," and gives her a sedative injection.

-Riddler`s question mark couch, with the two criminals discussing philosophy and physics with their new found higher intelligence.

-More shots of Robin hitting Two-Face on Claw Island.

-More shots of Bruce and Chase hitting Two-Face`s thugs in Wayne Manor.

-In the UK video version, after Robin says, "The ground, it`s full of holes....y`know, holey.", a line is cut in which Batman tells him, "This place was a refuling station for submarines during the war."

-The significance of the Riddler seeing a bat flying towards him at the end: he`s absorbed all the memories from his brain-draining machine, including Bruce Wayne`s, which make him believe he`s Batman, as he tells Chase at Arkham Asylum.

- The following sequnce, taken directly from the script, was filmed but not included due to time restrictions. It may be re-instated in a future version. It`s a superb scene, revealing more about how Bruce came to be Batman, and considering how good the cinematography is in the movie, parts of this scene must look incredible. I want to see this scene!

INT. BRUCE`S BEDROOM - MORNING

-Bruce is in bed, head bandaged. Alfred is walking a doctor to the door.

DOCTOR: The injuries are relatively minor.The shot did cause a concussion. Watch for headaches. Memory lapses.Odd behavior. I`ll check back in a few days. Alfred ushers him out, returns to Bruce`s bedside.

ALFRED: How are you feeling, young man?

BRUCE: Not that young. It`s been a long time since you`ve called me that.

ALFRED: Old habits die hard. Are you alright?

BRUCE: As well as can be expected, I guess. Give me the bad news.

ALFRED: Dick has run away. They have taken Dr. Meridian. And I`m afraid they found the cave, sir. It`s been destroyed.

BRUCE looks up at ALFRED, eyes narrow, puzzled. (This is where the scene ends in the released version of the movie).

BRUCE: The cave? What cave?

EXT. POLICE HEADQUARTERS ROOFTOP

The Batsignal lights the sky. Gordon paces.

GORDON: Where is he?

A concerned DEPUTY emerges onto the roof.

DEPUTY: The Mayor`s called again.(off the signal) He`s not going to show. Maybe he`s hurt sir. Maybe he`s--.

GORDON: No! (not so sure) ...No.

INT. BATCAVE

-Or what`s left of it. Melted ruin and rubble. BRUCE stands with a worried ALFRED, surveying the landscape (there is a photo of this scene, with Alfred and Bruce holding torches, that was used a lot in the 1995 publicity).

BRUCE: (disbelieving) I`m Batman? I remember my life as Bruce Wayne.(looking around) But all this. It`s like the life of a stranger.

ALFRED: Perhaps the fall...

BRUCE: There`s one other thing. I feel..

ALFRED: What?

BRUCE:...Afraid.

ALFRED: Bruce. Son. Listen to me. You are a kind man. A strong man. But in truth you are not the most sane man.

BRUCE: ...A bat.

ALFRED: What?

BRUCE: I remember a bat. A monster. A demon. Chasing me. (child`s terror) Oh my God, Alfred.

ALFRED: No demons, son. (touching his head) Your monsters are here. Until you fact that, I fear you will spend your life fleeing them.

Following this is the scene with the Riddler and Chase, as he strides in with his electric jacket, and she is tied to the sofa, and then....

INT. BATCAVE

-BRUCE stands before a dark, rocky mouth. Through this passage, the cave as it once was, sweating granite, a shifting world of shadow. Bruce steps inside.

-INT. INNER BATCAVE FAVOR BRUCE as he walks deeper into the darkness. The walls around him undulate, as if covered in water. WALLS - CLOSER. The movement isn`t water at all. It`s the restless shrugging of bats. Thousands of bats. Bruce presses on. Sweat beads on his face. Ahead, a diffusion of moonlight illuminates a curving rock chamber, bats here too bringing the walls to life. Bruce moves into the moonlight. Looks up.

-BRUCE - POV. A narrow chute. The fall he took as a child. He kneels, there on the floor, worn by years of weather, a single book. A diary. Bruce kneels, touches the leather cover, fingers lingering for a moment on his father`s embossment, before he turns yellowed pages to the last entry. Painfully, by moonlight, he reads.

BRUCE: (OVER)(dreaded confirmation)Bruce insists on seeing a movie tonight...

He pauses, gathers himself. He continues.

BRUCE (OVER): But Martha and I have our hearts set on Zorro, so Bruce`s cartoon will have to wait until next week. Bruce stares at the book in disbelief. Then he looks up at the moonlight, tears streaming down his face.

BRUCE: ...Not my fault. It wasn`t my fault.

-Suddenly, in the darkness ahead, a dark shape moves, head rising, slits opening to reveal two blood red eyes. The giant monarch bat (see picture above) spreads its wings, huge, as it rises, suddenly airborne, rushing toward him. BRUCE - CLOSE. And terrified. He turns to run. The bat`s flapping wings BEAT like drums, closing fast. Bruce holds his ground. Resolved. He turns and faces the monster, SCREECHING towards him, glistening fangs barely inches from his face. Something remarkable happens. The bat holds its position, stares into Bruce`s eyes, wings spreading wide. A beat. Then Bruce raises his arms, a living mirror. The two stand facing each other, man and bat. In the moon- light on the wall, their shadows begin to blend, to merge, becoming one _SHIMMERING WHITE LIGHT!_

INT. BATCAVE

-The mouth of the inner cave. A sudden SCREAMING DIN as a storm of bats explode into the cave, a shooting column of life and there, from within, steps a man.

REVERSE ANGLE

ALFRED stands at the entrance.

ALFRED: Master, Bruce?

BRUCE:...Batman, Alfred. I`m Batman.

Superman 2

-The ABC television version originally contained 17 minutes of footage that had been cut from the theatrical release, much of it remnants of Richard Donner's scenes he originally shot before Richard Lester became director, while others are alternate scenes involving Lex Luthor in prison and the Fortress of Solitude. Also, the network version has an alternate ending where Lex Luthor is arrested and taken away by the Arctic Police (and, if you look closely, the three Phantom Zone villains are also arrested and taken away!), thus explaining Luthor's appearance in "Superman IV". The theatrical version had Lex stranded at the Fortress Of Solitude.

-At the end of the film Clark Kent bumps into a large bald guy, which reminds him to go to the diner to face the obnoxious trucker who beat him up earlier! Superman destroys his fortress of solitude.

-The phantom zone villains land outside the fortress of solitude with Lex Luthor and Lois Lane, trying to figure out how to get in.

-Extended scenes of the three Kryptonians invasion of the Whitehouse, with Zod using a gun and Non frighting a dog.

-Superman cooks souffle using his heat vision, during dinner with Lois!

-Extended discussion between Zod and Ursa on the moon.

-The three Kryptonian villians are arrested in the TV version.

-Some versions show the sheriff's son in the small town get killed by Ursa as he rides away for help. She hurls the police car's flasher at him with enough force to cause it to explode. A bystander laments, "He was just a boy!" to which Ursa replies with glee, "Who will never become a man!"

-Another version shows Superman destroying his fortress of solitude after he's trapped Zod inside.

-In the ABC TV version, Superman passes a Concorde jet on his way to Paris. This is not in the video release.

-The Canadian version has scenes not in the ABC version.

-A little Girl watching the destruction of East Hoston by the Kryptonians on TV.

-Longer conversation between Lois and Superman after he destroys the fortress.

-Lex Luthor taking Perry White's coffee during the Time Square battle.

-Lex and Eve Teschmacher admiring the fortress of Solitude.

-Lex's negotiating with Superman after they leave the fortress is longer.

-An even longer version of the film was aired in Northern Ireland, Denmark, the Netherlands, and Australia in the 1980s, featuring these deleted scenes:

-A scene of a young woman watching a football game, only to see it be interrupted by a newsflash involving the three Kryptonian villains' attack on the small town, causing her to call the TV station and attempt to get them to put the football game back on.

-A scene of a young Japanese girl viewing the villains' destruction of the small town on TV, followed by her father telling her that she shouldn't watch it due to excessive violence, causing her to reply, "Shut up!"

-An longer version of the scene of Zod using a machine gun in the White House, where Zod kills a young black secret service agent, then fires at a portrait of Richard Nixon.

-A longer version of the scene of Clark and Lois traveling by car in the snow before they go to the diner and meet the bully.

-Superman is chased over the Metropolis river and City by "Non" in a far more exciting and action packed scene( which is abreviated in theatrical ) during this chase General Zod can be heard shouting "Kill him, kill him!" The scene ends when Superman go's round a building at a sharp angle, Non follows him but chip off a huge piece of the building, scene then flows into the theatrical with Superman looking behind to see Non, with General Zod saying in the background "Come on kill him." General Zod says to Lex Luthor during the flight to Superman's Fortress. Zod: "I trust, you do not waste my time, Lex Luthor!" Lex Luthor: "Of course not, your turbulance!"

Anymore?

[James Harvey]

Here are some more deleted scenes, this time from the movie Superman IV: The Quest For Peace

1. The creation of a prototype Nuclear Man, a dark-haired brute played by English actor Clive Mantle. This Nuclear Man fought Superman outside a Metropolis disco and got electrocuted in the process. (The blond Nuclear Man who ended up as the main villain was created from the protoype's burned remains, and inherited his romantic attraction to Lacy from said protoype, who tried to assault her at the club.)

2. Speaking of the disco, the lead-in to said fight was a scene where Lacy Warfield takes Clark out to the club on a date. This scene had Clark doing pretty good on the dance floor, much to Lacy's amazement (this was covered in the novelization).

3. The farmhouse in the tornado. This was restored for the TV release.

4. The nuke aimed at the Kremlin. That was restored, too.

5. When Luthor asks Nuclear Man what's to fear after Superman has been given fatal radiation poisoning, Nuclear Man's ominous response was cut: "Destiny."

6. The scene where Nuclear Man storms the Daily Planet and kidnaps Lacy was supposed to come earlier. He was supposed to abduct her while Superman was using the isobar to heal his wounds, and then he left Lacy with Lex while he shape-shifted into a nuke and prepared to attack Russia, thusly triggering a nuclear war. Superman shows up much to Luthor's horror (ol' Baldy thought for certain that he was dead) and averts Nuclear Man's attack on Russia by pretending to drop Lacy into the ocean. Nuclear Man, seeing her falling to a seeming death, reverts to human form and tries to save her, only to be beaten to the punch by Superman (and his attempts to trigger war foiled). He tracks Superman back to Metropolis, intending to kill him and take Lacy back. At this point came the infamous "I will hurt--people" scene, but in the theatrical cut, that entire set-up sequence was absent.

7. Right after Superman got Jeremy's letter was a scene where he flew to Jeremy's school and tried to explain to the kid why he couldn't get involved in Cold War politics. This set up the press conference in which Jeremy vented his anger at Superman, but again, it was cut. Photos of this sequence were run in the novelization. Also missing was a moment in the Fortress where Superman rebukes the warnings of the Elders by saying that the words of children often carry more wisdom than those of adults.

8. The scene in space where Superman punches Nucelar Man in the back before their battle in China is in the theatrical cut, but is absent in the network TV versions.

9. The novelization posited an alternate ending to the film, in which Superman imprisoned Luthor and then held his "we've found a fragile peace" speech, followed by his flying Jeremy around the world and having Jeremy tell the world what he saw via microphone. Of course the kid is overwhelmed by the sights, to which Superman replies, "Maybe some day the whole world will see it." I don't know if this was ever shot, though. The other scenes were, that much I know.


So, does anyone know of anymore deleted scenes from the Batman or Superman movies?

[DR. BELCH]

--but I've heard that in the first Superman movie, Marlon Brando wanted to play Jor-El as a giant cruller!
While talking over the script with the producer, Brando said, "You know, we don't know what these aliens are supposed to look like. For all we know they look like six-foot-tall croissants or something." He seemed to picture a bunch of big baked goods running about as pieces of Krypton rained down on them. The producer informed Brando that for generations in the comic books the denizens of the doomed planet were portrayed as humanoids and that they would look as such in his movie. I suppose Brando didn't pursue the point any further after that.

I can see it now..."Planet of the Crepes". Heh heh. Sounds like material for a Simpsons script, with Homer in Brando's role.

[Nightwing]

Originally posted by DickGrayson
-A scene of a young woman watching a football game, only to see it be interrupted by a newsflash involving the three Kryptonian villains' attack on the small town, causing her to call the TV station and attempt to get them to put the football game back on.

That's pretty funny. I think that's harping on a story I heard from the lunar landing in 1969, where it was reported that people called the TV station(s) to complain about the landing coverage because it interrupted a baseball game.

Anyway, those scenes from Batman Forever were awesome!! I can't believe they took them out. That is VERY stupid. If they were kept in, the overall acceptance of the movie by Batfans would have been much easier to get. I want them ALL back in!

[optimal321]

Man, that sounds like it would've made Batman Forever so much better. Wish they hadn't taken it out.

[Bird Boy]

Hmm..i've seen alot of those batman forever deleted sceenes..not in motion..but I hava complete set of the Topps BF trading card set and the bat staring at bruce, dick & bruce helping chase down the walk....

I think there might be two more..not sure..I'll have to look again..

-BB

[Tim Drake]

Yeah that sounds a lot better. Though the campiness of the villains is sitll there unfortunately.

[James Harvey]

The scene I would've like to have seen intact is the original opening where Two-Face kills the gaurd at Arkham and escapes. We seen that scene fora split second on U2's music video for HOLD ME, TOUCH ME, KISS ME, KILL ME. I still feel sorta cheated. I guess there were a couple Two-Face scenes that would've made him seem less one dimensional.

[Bird Boy]

that arkham scene in BF was in the comic book adaption. Just thought I'd add that..heh

-BB

[James Harvey]

The comic adapatation was based on the script after the initial cuts, but more changes were made at the end. This is why we still get a few scenes in the comic that aren't in the movie.

[Joker85]

Well, that just prove that Joel Shumacher really doesn't know his butt from his elbow. Those were FANTASTIC scenes!!! I will never understand how someone could be soooooo stupid. Maybe they'll come out in a future DVD release... Maybe.

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by Joker85
Well, that just prove that Joel Shumacher really doesn't know his butt from his elbow. Those were FANTASTIC scenes!!! I will never understand how someone could be soooooo stupid. Maybe they'll come out in a future DVD release... Maybe.

I don't know what the full story is, but given that he shot them I'm assuming it wasn't his decision to excise them. Probably studio interference.

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Actually, if that Arkham scene wasn't deleted, from the Batman Forever movie it would have contradicted the first Batman movie, since The Joker died in the first Bat-Flick. Now I know that a lot of people couldn't care less about continuity, but I'm just one of those guys that does care. Plus, that tornado scene from Superman IV was rediculous...it's a good thing they cut it...but they should've left it out of the TV version as well. That little girl who got sucked into that tornado would have been torn to shreds!

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Oh yeah, another thing, does Superman have the power to protect people from the vacuum of space just by touching them!? During the seen when Lacy was in outerspace, she wasn't wearing a spacesuit, and she didn't bloat like a balloon from explosive decompression...it's as if she was breathing!

[Joker85]

Originally posted by JusticeLeagueLegion
Actually, if that Arkham scene wasn't deleted, from the Batman Forever movie it would have contradicted the first Batman movie, since The Joker died in the first Bat-Flick. Now I know that a lot of people couldn't care less about continuity, but I'm just one of those guys that does care. Plus, that tornado scene from Superman IV was rediculous...it's a good thing they cut it...but they should've left it out of the TV version as well. That little girl who got sucked into that tornado would have been torn to shreds!

They could have edited the part where Dr. Burton walks buy the cells. It still would have been cool to see THe Two-Face escape.

[JLU Dude]

The scene in Batman and Robin where Bane breaks into the storage room to get Mr. Freeze's suit also clashs with the continunity of the moives because before Bane breaks in, we see Two-Face's suit.

[JusticeLeagueLegion]

Maybe Arkham Asylum kept Two-Face's clothes even after he had died.

[Dark Knight]

For the love of God why did they cut those scenes??? Batman Forever was always just a fun movie for me but it paled in comparison to the first one and even batman returns (Batman and Robin never happened it was a horrible unspeakable nightmare.) If they ever release a directors cut with all that cool stuff in it that would be so cool. Despite the crazy campy lights and occasional shudder from an extra's bad acting it would have at least begun to measure up to Burton's movies. Ah well...

[Heehaw]

Actually, if that Arkham scene wasn't deleted, from the Batman Forever movie it would have contradicted the first Batman movie, since The Joker died in the first Bat-Flick.

That description was taken from the novelization(I think) which was written by Peter David. I'm sure the Joker reference was his little touch, though if it were in the script it could easily be edited out to keep continuity.

Yeah, I've known about all of those scenes for years and ticks me off that an uncut bootleg is not available.

There is a maquette on eBay right now of the Batman Aqua Suit(or something of that nature) which was cut from the movie. The maquette is being sold by the actual artist and he has indeed seen the 3 hour cut of Batman Forever(when it was originally screen in 94 or 95). He/She doesn't remember anything about it, so I wouldn't email him about the experience. They simply told me that they couldn't remember and a bad movie is bad no matter how long or short it is(I disagree).

A crap load of these scenes can be seen the two trailers, the various music videos and one of the trading card sets. I know that the scene involving Bruce and the giant bat meeting face to face is one of them. One of the trailers features a shot of Batman falling down the side of a building. It is a different one from "bad case of gas" scene.

I've also read about the extended version of the helicopter scene at the beginning of the theatrical cut. "If the Bat wants to play, we'll play" is a line that was cut and included in one of the previews. The part where Batman is dangling from the craft was cut DRASTICALLY. There were a ton of those fancy neon signs and there was probably a good 1-2 minutes of extras.

The scene where Two-Face teaches Riddler how to hit is also cut. After Riddler yells "ouch!!" he pulls out his cane and beats the poor sap. That is one of the trading cards.

Kenner put out a series of four 14 inch plush dolls(Batman, Batman with plastic gloves, feet and parachute, talking Batman, and Robin) in 1995. The talking one said lines from the movie and one of them was Val Kilmer saying "I'm Batman!!". This is the last line of the amnesia subplot mentioned above.

A closeup of Two-Face "running" in place during the bank guard scene. It's in the movie but he is in the background doing it. You can see the closeup in the Seal video.

The CGI cityscape scene, right before we meet Nygma is cut. In the theatrical cut, we get a few seconds of the camera zooming in on Wayne Enterprises. In the extended version, the camera keeps on zooming in on the windows and right up into Wayne's office. There is a scene involving Bruce and his assistants. Wayne is talking, in Japanese, to some businessmen(presumably in Japan). There is some dialogue which then goes right into the scene where Bruce meets Edward. This is in the book, and I'm 95% certain that it was filmed and simply cut.

In the prologue of the book, Batman and Harvey Dent have a meeting on a rooftop and we get a little bit of insight into Nygma's childhood. This was most likely some Peter David stuff and never filmed. Incidentally, all of the stuff of Bruce as a child, with his father's journal and him falling into the hole into the cave and seeing the giant bat was also apart of the prologue.

I don't remember what it was, but Bruce's father's journal had MUCH more significance in the book. It didn't really go anywhere in the movie but I bet you it did in a longer version of the movie.

Right before Two-Face falls to his death is extended in the book. Probably cut down in the movie since what is in there is also in the book.

The scene where Bruce is in his tunnel coffin thingee and is chatting with Alfred is extended and the dialogue can be seen in one of the trailers.

All of the crap in Batman and Robin involving the Batmobile chase is actually in the Batman Forever book(chase over rooftops, big statues, etc).

And of course the other huge difference is the fact that the movie was completely reedited after the cuts were made. Dick Grayson hit on it a little in his original post. The book scene order is completely different and the entire plot, from the book, is just better. It flows better and scenes don't pop out of nowhere. Ever wonder how, in the Two-Face baby carriage scene, he knew that the Batmobile would be coming that way. A scene was cut where he and Riddler(or his gang) noticed that the Batmobile always came from a certain direction when the signal was turned on. They planned that ambush and that would have been much better had that scene been included. The baby carriage scene was in a different location, in the plot anyway.

Oh yeah, Superman IV, the theatrical cut is a meager 88 minutes. The original extended cut is a whopping 134 minutes. There were 2 nuclear men and just craploads of extras. This may be an instance where a movie is bad no matter how long or short it is though I'd love to see it.

Call these 2 films, the holy grails of extended cut collectors.

[Heehaw]

Here's the script with all of the deleted scenes and everything in the proper order. Comparing this with how it was changed in post is a great example of how editing can change a film. For whatever reason, they decided to chop the film up and rearrange everything. I prefer it the way it was always intended.

Batman Forever script with deleted scenes