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    "Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance" Talkback (Spoilers)

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    Release Date: February 17, 2012 (3D/2D theaters)
    Studio: Columbia Pictures (Sony)
    Director: Mark Neveldine, Brian Taylor
    Screenwriter: Scott M. Gimple, Seth Hoffman, David S. Goyer
    Starring: Nicolas Cage, Fergus Riordan, Ciaran Hinds, Violante Placido, Idris Elba, Johnny Whitworth
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    Plot Summary: Nicolas Cage reprises his role as Johnny Blaze in "Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance." In this gritty new vision for the character, directed by Neveldine/Taylor ("Crank"), Johnny is still struggling with his curse as the devil’s bounty hunter - but he may risk everything as he teams up with the leader of a group of rebel monks (Idris Elba) to save a young boy from the devil... and possibly rid himself of his curse forever.

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    Well, 17 percent positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and not a percent of a chance that I'll be going to see this. Is anyone really suprised that this looks to be Silver Surfer all over again?

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    I haven't seen this, but I did see an ad that completely de-emphasized the fact that Nicholas Cage is even in it. He shows up for one brief second, making a quip. If you didn't know much about the movie you'd think he was some kind of comic-relief sidekick.
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    I'm gonna ask Ghost Rider 2 the same question I ask the Resident Evil movies: who the hell justified the making of this movie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Talon View Post
    I'm gonna Ghost Rider 2 the same question I ask the Resident Evil movies: who the hell justified the making of this movie?
    The moviegoing public. They made enough money to support a sequel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Talon View Post
    I'm gonna Ghost Rider 2 the same question I ask the Resident Evil movies: who the hell justified the making of this movie?
    To keep the rights to the franchise and make as much money as they can off of it before it goes back to Marvel.

    I was planning on going to see this with some friends but then found out it was only out in 3D. I can sit through a bad movie, but I can't sit through 3D.

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    Okay... Scratch one more movie I won't be seeing anytime soon (at least until someone better at this movie-making thing and is much less condescending to the movie going public reboots this franchise and actually does this character, for example, some justice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Hopkins View Post
    The moviegoing public. They made enough money to support a sequel.
    It did? Could've sworn the first one bombed.

    Anyways, reviews aren't looking good for this movie, so I'm just gonna skip it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Talon View Post
    It did? Could've sworn the first one bombed.

    Anyways, reviews aren't looking good for this movie, so I'm just gonna skip it.
    It wasn't a super smash hit but $200 million is respectable enough on a $100 million budget.

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    Good grief, is there anyone here who's seen the movie yet? I'm hoping to read some reviews, not just "internet buzz says this movie sucks, so therefore it must suck". I want to go see it. Badly.

    If my wife and I can get a babysitter, we may go see this in the next few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderfly View Post
    Good grief, is there anyone here who's seen the movie yet? I'm hoping to read some reviews, not just "internet buzz says this movie sucks, so therefore it must suck". I want to go see it. Badly.

    If my wife and I can get a babysitter, we may go see this in the next few days.
    Well I guess after 10 posts someone who's seen it should comment

    It was average. I think I liked it a little more than the first one, if only because SoV lacks a shoehorned-in love-sublplot.
    I really just wanted to see some cool "flaming-skull-biker" action sequences and that's all I was looking for.
    The plot isn't anything revolutionary.

    The film's structure/editing and Nic Cage's performances (both as Blaze and the Rider) are both "unconventional". Possibly a bit too weird from some people's tastes, but any surprises in the film were welcome by me.

    Idris Elba gives the most enjoyable performance.
    For genre fans, keep an eye out for Anthony Head and Christopher Lambert in bit-roles.

    The effects are good, and the music is appropriate.
    Even the ridiculous "peeing fire" bit from the first trailer isn't a complete throwaway gag.
    And Blackout (though never referred to as such) is pretty spot-on, visually speaking.

    Is it worth full price? No. See a matinee if you want to see it in theaters.
    I saw it in 2d and I can't imagine any reason to see it in 3D, in fact some sequences I'd expect to be kinda nauseating in 3D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin Dromos
    Well I guess after 10 posts someone who's seen it should comment

    It was average. I think I liked it a little more than the first one, if only because SoV lacks a shoehorned-in love-sublplot.
    I really just wanted to see some cool "flaming-skull-biker" action sequences and that's all I was looking for.
    The plot isn't anything revolutionary.

    The film's structure/editing and Nic Cage's performances (both as Blaze and the Rider) are both "unconventional". Possibly a bit too weird from some people's tastes, but any surprises in the film were welcome by me.

    Idris Elba gives the most enjoyable performance.
    For genre fans, keep an eye out for Anthony Head and Christopher Lambert in bit-roles.

    The effects are good, and the music is appropriate.
    Even the ridiculous "peeing fire" bit from the first trailer isn't a complete throwaway gag.
    And Blackout (though never referred to as such) is pretty spot-on, visually speaking.

    Is it worth full price? No. See a matinee if you want to see it in theaters.
    I saw it in 2d and I can't imagine any reason to see it in 3D, in fact some sequences I'd expect to be kinda nauseating in 3D.
    Thank you. So it's about what I expected: A decent popcorn action flick. I'm excited about going to see it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostAnarchist View Post
    Okay... Scratch one more movie I won't be seeing anytime soon (at least until someone better at this movie-making thing and is much less condescending to the movie going public reboots this franchise and actually does this character, for example, some justice).
    I'm saying this as an actual Ghost Rider fan who has read lots of the comics, but I really think that at least the first movie did do justice to the concept. It's not exactly Shakespeare, it's just a sort of cheesy 1970s comic about a guy who sells his soul to the devil and becomes a flaming motorcycle rider. There's not a lot of "there" there beyond the visual, and the movie reflects this and tries to fill in the gaps with Cage's manic eccentricities.

    The real characters the first movie let down were Blackheart and Mephisto, they were trying to follow some kind of Emo/manipulator fad with them instead of letting them be the muscular, corny comic book devils that would work with the Ghost Rider concept, so every scene they were in hurt the movie.

    So I didn't think the first movie was an insult to the character, and I doubt the second will be. It's just a dumb popcorn flick and that's pretty appropriate.

    But I'm still not seeing the second one because I already donated the money I was going to use for it to Ghost Rider creator Gary Friedrich to help him out in his fight against Marvel.
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    The movie wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. Like the first film, the big bads once again fell flat, especially the devil himself. You'd think that he'd given a better fight when he finally went up against the Rider before being sent 'home'.

    But it's always fun to see Nic Cage ham it up and chew the scenery like an all you can eat buffet. His interogation scene with Carigan's partner was so cheesy that you serve it as an entree.
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    I'm a Nic Cage fan and I'd like to show my Cage appreciation in a time when audiences seem to be kicking on him. I also quite liked the first GR movie-- it's one of those films that's perfect to watch with a can of beer in hand at 1:00am with the lights turned down and the sound system thrusted up a little higher than your neighbours would like. In a theatre, I'd try catch the latest showing with a hot date, if possible.

    OTOH, like Shawn, the Friedrich-Marvel thing is making me think twice about forking over money to Marvel for Ghost Rider properties.

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    This film was very....underwhelming. And weird. I must say, I much preffered the first film. This film suffered from having a bleh plot, very unexciting fight scenes, and very lame villains. Nich Cage really hams it up, which could be considered a good or bad thing.

    The actual camera work didn't sit well with me, and the film had a very strange atmosphere that I didn't like. Its hard to place exactly, but this is one strange film. Oh, and the climax is surprisingly not-epic. Ghost Rider is made to look way too weak and unimpressive.

    This film could have been so much better.
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    While it wasn't as laughable at the first flick, SOV still remained underwhelming given the talent involved. It only felt like half the film was directed by N/T, and most of the money shots had already been given away in trailers and TV spots. Heck, even the infamous peeing scene was a letdown, seeing as it was just a 5-second flashback rather than an OTT climax as one might think.

    It wasn't terrible as a whole, just incredibly forgettable and short. Little action, rehashed plot, no character progression either, it just... ends abruptly. Is Blaze now content to be the Ghost Rider forever, or is he spiralling downwards? That said, the interrogation scene was hilarious. ("Scraping at the DOOOOORRR!!")

    One final note: I doubt the person who rates a half-star on these talkbacks even sees the movies. Just a thought.
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