"TNA iMPACT!" October 2010 Talkback (Spoilers)

[The Penguin]

Total Nonstop Action Wrestling goes live at the top of the hour with an all-new iMPACT! As part of this "Before the Glory" event, ReACTION will also be live and TNA builds towards Bound for Glory this Sunday (which can also be discussed here).

TNA WRESTLING AND HULK HOGAN SET THE STAGE FOR ‘BOUND FOR GLORY 2010’ WITH A SPECIAL LIVE NIGHT OF TNA PROGRAMS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 7 ON SPIKE TV

Total Nonstop Action (TNA) Wrestling will celebrate “Bound For Glory 2010,” the biggest pay-per-view event in TNA Wrestling’s history, with a three hour “TNA Thursday” LIVE special on Spike TV, Thursday, October 7 (9:00pm-12:00am ET/PT).

MATCHES THAT WILL TAKE PLACE INCLUDE:

- TNA’s flagship program “TNA iMPACT!” will feature a $100,000 Battle Royal Gauntlet main event, set by TNA President Dixie Carter, featuring every TNA Superstar competing at “Bound For Glory 2010”. Over 20 of the top TNA Superstars including Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle, Mr. Anderson, “The Charismatic Enigma” Jeff Hardy, “The Phenomenal” AJ Styles, Hardcore Legend Mick Foley, “The Icon” Sting, and many more. The winner of the battle royal gauntlet will net a $100,000 purse.

- It's a battle two decades in the making as the legendary "Nature Boy" Ric Flair faces The Hardcore Legend Mick Foley in a Last Man Standing match!

- Plus, the TNA Knockouts are in action: Knockouts Champion Angelina Love teams with Velvet Sky to take on Madison Rayne and Tara, with the winner getting the rights to "The Beautiful People" trademark!

- The Shore will make their TNA Wrestling debut on the broadcast...and much more!

In addition, TNA’s innovative one-hour docu-style series, “TNA ReACTION”, will also be broadcast LIVE for the first time in that show’s history. As the drama and excitement builds for “Bound For Glory 2010,” TNA’s revolutionary documentary shooting style will follow the superstars of TNA throughout “iMPACT!” and immediately after,

The “Bound For Glory” pay-per-view extravaganza will be held LIVE at the Ocean Center in Daytona Beach, Florida on Sunday, October 10, 2010 (10.10.10) starting at 8 p.m. ET and airing worldwide exclusively on pay-per-view. For ticket information, visit www.ticketmaster.com

[hobbyfan]

What worked:

Flair vs. Foley. Enough said. No way could anyone follow this match. Jeremy Borash nearly ruined it by mistakenly announcing it as a falls count anywhere match. Well, he's a tool, anyway.

The downside to that match was that Fourtune just had to get their heat back by beating Mick down after he won. Well, at least there wasn't any Smirnoff Ice in the house for Flair this time.

Mickie James. She gets to be the ref for the women's title match on Sunday, and serves notice on all 4 competitors that she's after the title (DUH!). Now I have a reason to tune in on Thursdays.

What didn't work:

Orlando Jordan & Eric Young as a tag team. We know Eric can play the goof so well. Jordan is trying to be a poor man's Goldust and failing. Badly. They're not going to last as a team.

The Shore. As they used to say in the 80's, gag me with a spoon. They signed Rob Eckos & Becky Bayless, two independent stars, to play parodies of characters from "Jersey Shore", which happens to be on Spike's step-sister network, MTV. The debut promo was DOA. I give them less than 6 months before they either get a gimmick change or they're gone.

"Firing" Abyss. Like, d'ya really think the man-monster is a goner? I don't.

[Jin Kazama]

Remember when they used to use PPVs for actual wrestling matches? Instead of "Who's Abyss Talking About," "What Do They Have To Do With Pope/Sting/Nash" and "What's Team 3D's Big Announcement?"

The friggin' Nash/Joe/Sting/Jerrett/Pope match has been built more about Abyss and his "They" than it has been about the people in the actual match.

[EinBebop]

Announcing Mickie James as the guest ref would've been much cooler if they hadn't already shown her getting out of the car earlier in the show.

[Marvin Tikvah]

I like how Abyss has the power to eliminate any competitor int he ring during the battle royal. Everybody was hanging in there until he came in and started cleaning house.

I've also gotta wonder how long the guy with the Shore gimmick will last. I doubt that show has any kind of staying power, and he already feels outdated with some awful mic skills to boot.

[Azrayel]

I'm not going to lie this was a pretty bad show. Majority of the matches on the card I could have caredless for.

Why wasn't Gen Me and MCMG on the show with a segment on their feud? Since they are on the Bound for Glory card. Plus there wasn't really a lot of interaction with the teams against each other in the Gauntlet.

Robbie E and Cookie eh they were something but not a good introduction promo, plus Robbie's dance looked really dumb.

[TnAdct1]

Read about the PPV results, and 10-10-10 = NWO 3.0 (with Jeff Hardy and Abyss instead of Hall and Nash).

Newsflash TNA: when it comes to 1990's storylines revisited, what you did at Bound for Glory is never going to top the current Kane/Undertaker feud.

[Azrayel]

Really "they" is Jeff Hardy, Abyss, Jeff Jarrett, Hulk Hogan, and Eric Bischoff. Thats really lame, I was expect something better. The only good news from this is Jeff Jarrett is a bad guy again because in my opinion he's good at it, and Jeff Hardy because I don't recall him as a heel ever.

The rest of the results on the ppv seemed good though

[Jin Kazama]

How could Abyss hype the coming of "They" if "They" were already there? That makes zero sense.

Also, good luck pushing Hardy as a heel considering he can't work a promo to save his life, and can't wrestle a match without doing big spots that people cheer for. Plus, there's that whole "Trial Pending with Jail Time" thing, so good luck with that, too.

I'd also like to point out that, on TNA's biggest show of the year, every single match that had an ex-WWE wrestler, they won. Tara/Shannon Moore (Ink Inc.)/RVD/Pope and Nash/EV2.0/Hardy. Yep. Every. Single. One.

[RedNinja84]

Really "they" is Jeff Hardy, Abyss, Jeff Jarrett, Hulk Hogan, and Eric Bischoff. Thats really lame, I was expect something better. The only good news from this is Jeff Jarrett is a bad guy again because in my opinion he's good at it, and Jeff Hardy because I don't recall him as a heel ever.

The rest of the results on the ppv seemed good though

The only time I can he was a heel was when he and Matt turned on michael hayes and joined Gangral as the New Brood in 99.

[Azrayel]

The only time I can he was a heel was when he and Matt turned on michael hayes and joined Gangral as the New Brood in 99.

And how did that work out? (I really don't know, but I do remember Edge and Christian were in this group)

[RedNinja84]

And how did that work out? (I really don't know, but I do remember Edge and Christian were in this group)

I think Gangral got hurt and the Hardys turned face when they started thei long feud with Edge and Christian that went well on into 2001.

[The Penguin]

I haven't commented on iMPACT! yet, so I'll do that first without regard for how it played out at Bound for Glory (which I forgot about until like 10 ET).

iMPACT!
TNA made such a big deal about the live show before it aired and while there were a few moments where it felt live, I was overall pretty disappointed with it. Not sure what TNA was thinking here with all of this... stuff.

Abyss dragging Dixie Carter around is not the way to kick off such a big show. I don't understand why TNA is putting so much effort into the Dixie character (even though she's not a character because everything she says is real ). The general populous may not find her a waste of space like I do, but I can't image many are super-interested and care about her either.

I thought Brother Ray's big announcement was pretty obvious, especially since Team 3D has been MIA.

Very happy Love/Sky won the "Beautiful People Match." I was afraid TNA would go the other way under some stupid belief that people would care.

There's a reason Miss Tessmacher was a dancer in WWE rather than a mouthpiece. Her intro of Mickie was horrid and she was able to look pretty good at least by comparison.

I'm sorry, but I just can't take watching Mick Foley and Ric Flair brutalize and bloody each other like that. It makes me feel like I am watching some "legends" show where guys who should be long retired just destroy each other under the false assumption that people want to see that. I don't like that WWE stops for blood, but when both guys are bleeding like stuck pigs in under five minutes, what kind of an impact does that really make?

So RVD was 1010% sure he would quit if Bischoff fired Abyss because he wanted to keep to "the code"? Then Dixie okayed it? Whatever.

Eric Young & O.J. losing or not losing was just confusing. It seems whenever TNA runs out of things for serious Eric to do, he just hits his head and is even crazier than the last time. I can't believe this was on the card and got made again for Bound for Glory.

"There is zero hot girls in Florida my dude" is one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever heard. General belief would be that Florida is full of hot girls. "Shore" is a stupid name to try to give a duo and the crowd turned on Robbie E & Cookie is record time. He's from Long Island, but WWE is doing a way better job with Zack Ryder even in his limited use.

The short interviews from a bunch of people about what Bound for Glory means seemed like a waste for a live show. I understand the BFG preview aspect, but still.

I was a bit disappointed Angle was the battle royal. I found the dominance of Abyss a much more compelling piece of the event.

I agree, where we the Machine Guns and Generation Me before the battle royal?

ReACTION
Being live actually made ReACTION less interesting. It's strength is being slickly edited and well put together. Making it live took all those aspects away. The interviews were dull or too long, they had technical problems and it just didn't flow well. The thing really going on here was Jesse Neal doing his best Just Joe impression to tell Angle what Anderson had said and then they're backstage brawl.


Bound for Glory
Official TNAWrestling.com results featuring photo gallery

As always, I didn't see the event, but I have a few thoughts on the results...

Happy to see the Machine Guns get the win. As usual, this is the match I would most like to see.

I read on I believe the Torch results that Tara's win now sets up an all-WWE feud for the Knockout Title, which changes hands yet again.

I don't expect a feud with Jay Lethal over who really represents Jersey will do anything to help Robbie E.'s horrendous debut.

Apparently Kevin Nash is going to be done with TNA after the tapings this next week, so maybe he and Sting were trying to prevent "They" (or something).

Team 3D had better not beat the Guns. A great match with a handshake is fine, but Sabin & Shelley can't lose the belts and have them just held up.

With EV2 beating Fourtune, does that mean some of these guys will go away now? I believe Sabu is the only one still in this faction that got a job new because of HardCORE Justice.

So "They" are Hulk Hogan, Jeff Hardy, Eric Bischoff and Jeff Jarrett? Okay. I wonder if TNA always had this plan or if at one point it was going to be someone cool. Without thinking about it too hard before Thursday, I already see two things wrong with this. You have Jeff Hardy trying to be a heel which he should be horrible at and Dixie Carter will be the initial face of let's say "Them." Neither has the vocal ability to pull these jobs off.

And how did that work out? (I really don't know, but I do remember Edge and Christian were in this group)

I think Gangral got hurt and the Hardys turned face when they started thei long feud with Edge and Christian that went well on into 2001.

Gangrel might have been hurt (I don't know), but let's remember the Hardyz-Edge & Christian feud really took off with the Terri Invitation Tournament which Matt & Jeff won. That gave them the services of Terri Runnels as their manager and they turned on Gangrel (just like they had turned on Michael Hayes).

Much like when Edge & Christian were in The Brood, Gangrel did most of The New Brood's little talking, so all Matt & Jeff really had to do to be heels was frown, cheat and be more aggressive. They were also heels at least part of the time they were with Michael Hayes with about the same level of heel requirements. Half of a heel tag team with a manager requires a lot less work to get over than when you are the marquette wrestler of a heel faction as Jeff is now.

[The Penguin]

Bound for Glory is in the books and Jeff Hardy is the new TNA World Champion! However it was not without controversy as Hardy was revealed as part of the "They" Abyss has been talking about along with Eric Bischoff, Jeff Jarrett and Hulk Hogan!

There is another new Champion after Sunday, Tara won the Knockouts Title in a four-way with Mickie James as the referee.

PREVIEW FOR THURSDAY'S 3-HOUR BLOCK OF TNA WRESTLING ON SPIKE TV STARTING AT 9/8C

TNA Wrestling presents the aftermath of "Bound For Glory" on iMPACT starting at 9/8c, immediately followed by ReACTION!

- Don't miss the most important iMPACT in TNA Wrestling history! New TNA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Hardy will be in attendance! The question is, will he answer for turning his back on the fans on Sunday night? Why did he do it?!

- Also, what will Eric Bischoff, Hulk Hogan, Jeff Jarrett and Abyss have to say about their role in helping Hardy turn his back on the fans and win the World Title? Will THEY reveal why they joined forces???

- How will TNA President Dixie Carter and the rest of TNA Management react to what happened?!

- What will happen to Kurt Angle after he lost at the PPV? Will he hold true to his promise to retire...or will he want to exact his revenge?

- J-Woww from the MTV hit series "Jersey Shore" will appear on the broadcast, also featuring TNA newcomers Robbie E and Cookie

- Also, will TNA World Tag Team Champions The Motor City Machineguns answer Team 3D's retirement challenge? On Sunday night, Team 3D announced they were retiring as a tag team, but they wanted to face the MCMG in their final bout!

- Plus, NEW Knockouts Champion Tara will be there - and certainly, Madison Rayne isn't happy she won the gold! What's next for Mickie James as well? Will she begin her quest to capture the title?

There are so many questions after what happened on Sunday night...don't miss Thursday's huge iMPACT and ReACTION featuring the aftermath of the epic event!

[TnAdct1]

Yep, it looks like the beginning of the end for TNA as a whole, as tonight's episode is pretty much "all talk, no wrestling".

I think we really need to heed The Spoony One's advice and tell the people in charge of TNA that we don't like where the company is going as a result of the "They" storyline.

[hobbyfan]

Those who fail to remember history are doomed to repeat it.---George Santayana.

Jeff Jarrett, Huckster Hogan, Eric Bisquick, and Vince Kangarusso should know by now that recycling the NWO just isn't going to cut it in 2010. Jarrett, whom I used to refer to as Capt. Slapnutz during his last go-round in WCW, is back to being a heel, but how long's it going to be before there's dissension among these self-declared "immortals"? I give them less than 3 months.

You've got to know when to fold 'em, know when to hold 'em, know when to walk away, & know when to run.----From Kenny Rogers' "The Gambler", 1980.

Kevin Nash has talked about retiring. It's about time. Apparently, Shawn Michaels got him a Bible for his 50th birthday. Either that, or he borrowed Sting's. Anyway, for Nash not to be a part of this latest collection of egos out of control is a big surprise. TNA is headed down the chute, if only because they know zilch about original angles.

Is Bratison Rayne dating anyone in TNA Uncreative? Why put the knockout title on her again? She has proven to be unworthy time and again. Tara came back to win the title, and then she has to give it up to the Brat? I see a face turn down the line for Tara once she realizes how the Brat has misused her, and after she's done with Mickie James, I see Mickie taking the Brat to the woodshed, never to return (we hope).

I'm tired of waiting for TNA Uncreative to get a clue. It's clear now they don't want to. I'm done with TNA, and this time it may be for good.

[Azrayel]

Todays episode wasn't bad just too much talking and only one real match with a legit endng. Which is D'Angelo Dinero vs Fortune.

Robbie E made a better promo this week than last week, but why TNA have The Beautiful People in JWoww's corner? It would make more sense to have Jay Lethal helping her since it would seem Robbie and Lethal are feuding.

[EinBebop]

Is Bratison Rayne dating anyone in TNA Uncreative? Why put the knockout title on her again?

They want someone to feud with Mickie James, and Rayne is more over as a heel than anyone else at this point. Tara would be the obvious second choice, but not matter how they play Tara, she would steal some of James's cheers... plus making Mickie's first feud against another WWE alumni would not be a positive move.

[krazymed]

So why not have Madison win the title on the PPV? This completely nullifies that match.

Madison's three title "reigns" this year tell me everything I need to know about that division.

Reign 1 - Won the title in a tag match, despite having never won a singles match in TNA prior to that point.

Reign 2 - Won on the threat of a lawsuit after losing it on a PPV due to interference that was ultimately revealed to be her own and backfired (it's more convoluted than that, but this is the gist of it).

Reign 3 - Fingerpoke of Doom, 2010.

The hits just keep on rolling...

[hobbyfan]

So why not have Madison win the title on the PPV? This completely nullifies that match.

Madison's three title "reigns" this year tell me everything I need to know about that division.

Reign 1 - Won the title in a tag match, despite having never won a singles match in TNA prior to that point.

Reign 2 - Won on the threat of a lawsuit after losing it on a PPV due to interference that was ultimately revealed to be her own and backfired (it's more convoluted than that, but this is the gist of it).

Reign 3 - Fingerpoke of Doom, 2010.

The hits just keep on rolling...

They want someone to feud with Mickie James, and Rayne is more over as a heel than anyone else at this point.

Which again begs to ask. Just why is Bratison the champion? Who's she servicing to get three title reigns that she hasn't actually earned? As far as I'm concerned, Bratison is a flash in the pan, all substance and no style or skill. She's worse than Team LayMeOut over on Smackdown, I might add, but I'd throw her in a dungeon with them anyway......