"TNA iMPACT!" July 15, 2010 Talkback (Spoilers)

[The Penguin]

iMPACT! is on right now as TNA comes off of Victory Road. Rob Van Dam is still World Champion, having survived the four-way with Abyss, Jeff Hardy and Mr. Anderson. We have new TNA Tag Team Champions in the form of the Motor City Machine Guns and Angelina Love is the new Knockouts Champion. Douglas Williams retained the X Division Championship.

TNA WRESTLING "IMPACT!" - EVERY THURSDAY AT 9/8c ON SPIKE TV

Every Thursday night, TNA Wrestling presents two hours of Total Nonstop Action with "iMPACT!" at 9/8c

The broadcast features all of your favorite TNA Superstars, including World Heavyweight Champion Rob Van Dam, Hulk Hogan, "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair, "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles, "The Charismatic Enigma" Jeff Hardy, Desmond Wolfe, Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle, the sexy TNA Knockouts and so many more!

- Don't miss this week's "iMPACT!" as the wrestling world witnesses the aftermath of the "Victory Road" Pay-Per-View as countdown begins to the August 8 "Hard Justice" event begins!

- What will be the fallout from what went down in the Four-Way main event on Sunday involving World Champion Rob Van Dam, Jeff Hardy, Abyss and Mr. Anderson?

- Tune in for the latest monthly Heavyweight Rankings Update! Who has climbed up the ranks - and who will fall?

- Will Ric Flair hold true to his word and make AJ Styles and Kazarian members of the "Fortune" alliance?

[hobbyfan]

Best match on the show was the ladder match, tainted as it was by a cheap, stale finish. One of these days, Storm's going to break that bottle and send someone to the hospital legit, and that could get him in deeper trouble.

The end-of-show brawl was classic. They're basically saying, we can copy what WWE's doing (Nexus vs. Raw), thinking they've got the better talent. Well, they're only partly right. For now. I've a feeling, though, that they could pull a bait & switch and have Team ECW turn on RVD at Hard Justice, because they could still be the "they" that Abyss talks about, even though they attacked him tonight.

So Abyss named his "girlfriend", Janice. Somewhere, Perry Saturn is asking for royalty rights, because he was the last guy to have an inanimate girlfriend (Moppy).

I see the Beautiful People splintering into two teams. The biker chick is supposedly a returning Tara, who was "retired" by Madison Brat-rayne a while back. Like, they couldn't have her wear a mask instead of the helmet?

Like, Tara would look sexy masked AND in leather.

Kevin Nash, do us a favor and retire. Preferably yesterday.

Ric Flair, stop calling yourself God. That's blasphemy that you learned from JBL. And look what it did for his career at the end.

Lethal vs. Hardy deserved more time. Period.

So Mick Foley's back. And he has his favorite punching bag, Al Snow, in the thick of things. Do they really need Paul Heyman, with Foley, Raven, & Dreamer in the fold? Not really.

They can still get rid of Vince Russo, and let Foley, Raven, & Dreamer write the show. In this case, 3 heads are better than one.

The BP's might want to look for their dumb blonde pills. I think Russo overdosed on them before the show.

[Wonderwall]

Best match on the show was the ladder match, tainted as it was by a cheap, stale finish. One of these days, Storm's going to break that bottle and send someone to the hospital legit, and that could get him in deeper trouble.

I would hope that those aren't real glass bottles and more like candy glass where it'll get the desired result without any risk of someone getting hurt...I would hope.

The end-of-show brawl was classic. They're basically saying, we can copy what WWE's doing (Nexus vs. Raw), thinking they've got the better talent. Well, they're only partly right. For now. I've a feeling, though, that they could pull a bait & switch and have Team ECW turn on RVD at Hard Justice, because they could still be the "they" that Abyss talks about, even though they attacked him tonight.

I thought that the last segment was horrendous, I had no idea what was going on. Guys just seemed to be jumping in for no reason. It was a mess and one TNA has done over and over again since it's creation. You'd think they'd learn how to do a mass beatdown by now. Then the cheesy end with Dixie just had me rolling my eyes. Ok you invited them....care to elaborate more?

[Jin Kazama]

I don't know which is sadder: The fact that they're trying yet another "we're taking over" angle, or the fact that they actually have that many ex-ECW guys on the roster.

[Azrayel]

Not a bad impact at all. The only matches I could say I really could careless for last night was Matt Morgan vs D'Angelo Dinero and Douglas Williams vs Brian Kendrick. The rest of the show was awesome, and the best of five match for MCMG and Beer Money last night was the best match on last night's card. I am anxious to see their match next week in a street fight.

I also thought either Sarita or Taylor Wilde's boob would slip out last night...this did not happen.

I see the Beautiful People splintering into two teams. The biker chick is supposedly a returning Tara, who was "retired" by Madison Brat-rayne a while back. Like, they couldn't have her wear a mask instead of the helmet?

Its already confirmed to be Tara. http://wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1278907055
and wikipedia says it as well. I'm guessing Tara wanted to go back to wwe to get a bigger pay but wwe most likely didn't want her back

Ok you invited them....care to elaborate more?

She probably didn't want to explain last night so people could tune it next week

[krazymed]

Like, Tara would look sexy masked AND in leather.

I was hoping that the biker chick was Melissa/Alissa/Raisha, but Tara's fine too.

Was Sarita choking out Wilde a shot at WWE for firing Danielson when he choked out the ring announcer?

[Azrayel]

Was Sarita choking out Wilde a shot at WWE for firing Danielson when he choked out the ring announcer?

Yes but TNA is tv 14 and wwe is pg. Which is why in TNA you see people having beer, bikini contests (the old type wwe use to have not the one wwe has now), swearing, kissing (when was the last time wwe did some lip action?) and some other stuff.

wwe no longer does any of that stuff, because its a family show.

[Fifi Fanatic]

I'm sorry guys. but that oversized helmet on our biker friend reminds me too much of.... well....





Hmmm, and you would think I'd be more excited about a stable of ECW guys.... maybe if this was 2001 instead of 2010.....

[Cabel]

The Spoony One has some comments

[cornprone]

You know when WWE did the NXT invasion end-of-show angle, it was pretty simple: 8 guys just came in an destroyed everyone in the ringside area. But of course when TNA does it, it's totally overbooked. First Foley makes a brief cameo, then the locker room clears out, then came the agents and trainers, most of whom the average fan wouldn't recognize. Al Snow comes out and joins the ECW guys... I think(?) Then a couple of cops run out, and things start looking like a Benny Hill skit.

It's ironic that WWE's probably going to get more mileage out of an invasion by NXT -- a show that had only existed for 4 months at the time -- than TNA will get out of an ECW invasion.

[hobbyfan]

You know when WWE did the NXT invasion end-of-show angle, it was pretty simple: 8 guys just came in an destroyed everyone in the ringside area. But of course when TNA does it, it's totally overbooked. First Foley makes a brief cameo, then the locker room clears out, then came the agents and trainers, most of whom the average fan wouldn't recognize. Al Snow comes out and joins the ECW guys... I think(?) Then a couple of cops run out, and things start looking like a Benny Hill skit.

It's ironic that WWE's probably going to get more mileage out of an invasion by NXT -- a show that had only existed for 4 months at the time -- than TNA will get out of an ECW invasion.

That's because Vince Russo is still writing TNA. He doesn't know any other way than to over layer his plots to confuse viewers, but in 2010, that's no longer acceptable. He wants out, and would welcome Paul Heyman coming in if TNA can get him. I'd rather see Vince give Heyman a sweetheart deal to bring him back rather than have him sign with the piddling opposition.

[KJ Styles]

I'd rather see Vince give Heyman a sweetheart deal to bring him back rather than have him sign with the piddling opposition.

Why? So his ideas will fall by the wayside yet again? I hope TNA does get Heyman so that Russo, Hogan, and Bischoff can be gone and TNA will get some excellent booking to go along with it's superior talent. Vince crapped all over Heyman's ideas before (the mishandling of ECW being a prime example) and would only do so again. So why would he go back there as opposed to being the head TNA booker? Ain't gonna happen.

I'd take an ECW invasion over those greener-than-grass Nexus clowns anyday.

[Wonderwall]

Why? So his ideas will fall by the wayside yet again? I hope TNA does get Heyman so that Russo, Hogan, and Bischoff can be gone and TNA will get some excellent booking to go along with it's superior talent. Vince crapped all over Heyman's ideas before (the mishandling of ECW being a prime example) and would only do so again. So why would he go back there as opposed to being the head TNA booker? Ain't gonna happen.

I'd take an ECW invasion over those greener-than-grass Nexus clowns anyday.

Heyman isn't going to do anything in TNA either. In WWE Vince would disregard his ideas, the same thing will happen in TNA. And it's just a bad move going to yet another old face to try and do something when that hasn't done anything so far. I'd rather take Nexus as they have greater upside. They're still young, they can still learn and be better and if done properly they can get people to care about them and so far that seems to be working. The ECW guys can barely walk let alone work. It's tired, it's been done, and it's embarrassing seeing guys who have been around so long get upstaged by guys who are green. No one cares anymore about these guys, the ECW faithful have more or less moved on or grown up.

[The Penguin]

I found it notable how the crowd turned on Abyss partway through his promo. ‘Janice’ is going to become a health hazard if he keeps beating raw meat and watermelons with it.

Sarita and Taylor Wilde hating each doesn’t have nearly enough American development for a street fight that intense. At least WWE Superstars is available online, the YouTube webmatch doesn’t seem to cover everything that is on Xplosion.

With Bischoff gone, it was good to see Miss Tessmacher hasn’t gone anywhere. Nash seemed happy too.

Nash’s promo and Jarrett responding to him made for an interesting segment, we’ll see what develops.

I actually watched some TNA Today a couple weeks ago where “Don’t call me Brutus” Magnus made his return, but it’s good to see him back on the actual main show.

I found it interesting that Earl Hebner was too busy checking on Brian Hebner to pay attention to the ladder match (like he should have been) and then as soon as he looked up to declare Beer Money the winner, left Brian lying at ringside.

It saddens me that Taz must think, “Well, he comes the Pope” is clever.

Also making me sad is that “dumb blonde pills” was the height of the Beautiful People argument. This group breaking up seems bad for all involved. I guess it has to do with the biker chick. It reminded me of when Raven was being saved by a biker chick, which was supposed to be Tori, though I believe never revealed.

Abyss running off Flair and his associates was kind of a fun way to cut off Desmond Wolfe demanding his inclusion in Fortune. Abyss calling out RVD certainly gave us much more than we expected.

The massive brawl that started when the ECW guys got in the ring was just kind of surprising. Since even the current TNA guys all seemed shocked and confused when Dixie declared, “I invited them” I have to assume that guys like Al Snow and Devon just decided to defend their former friends rather than fight against them.

So Abyss named his "girlfriend", Janice. Somewhere, Perry Saturn is asking for royalty rights, because he was the last guy to have an inanimate girlfriend (Moppy).

Moppy was way less dangerous too. If Abyss tries to give Janice a kiss, he'll be missing part of his face.

[hobbyfan]

Also making me sad is that “dumb blonde pills” was the height of the Beautiful People argument. This group breaking up seems bad for all involved. I guess it has to do with the biker chick. It reminded me of when Raven was being saved by a biker chick, which was supposed to be Tori, though I believe never revealed.

Actually, yes, Tori was unmasked as the "Ninja girl" that helped Raven by Molly Holly. I believe it was on either Raw or Heat, I forget which, but the mask did come off. When she was on Tough Enough I, Tori had the short hair because of the mask.

Abyss running off Flair and his associates was kind of a fun way to cut off Desmond Wolfe demanding his inclusion in Fortune. Abyss calling out RVD certainly gave us much more than we expected.

The massive brawl that started when the ECW guys got in the ring was just kind of surprising. Since even the current TNA guys all seemed shocked and confused when Dixie declared, “I invited them” I have to assume that guys like Al Snow and Devon just decided to defend their former friends rather than fight against them.

Not only that, but Pat Kenney (Simon Diamond) was caught in the middle, too. And where was Brother Ray? Looked like he was fighting his former buds.

[The Penguin]

Actually, yes, Tori was unmasked as the "Ninja girl" that helped Raven by Molly Holly. I believe it was on either Raw or Heat, I forget which, but the mask did come off. When she was on Tough Enough I, Tori had the short hair because of the mask.

That's right! Did it go anywhere after that? I don't seem to remember anything about them having an alliance.

Not only that, but Pat Kenney (Simon Diamond) was caught in the middle, too. And where was Brother Ray? Looked like he was fighting his former buds.

I believe he was. With his attitude towards Devon and Jesse, it makes some sense to see him on the opposite side.

[TheVileOne]

You know what I would love?

If Kevin Nash, Jeff Jarrett, and Hogan were cutting another one of their politically cryptic promos in the ring and then suddenly Samoa Joe leads an army including AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, the MMG, and Jay Lethal and destroy the likes of Nash, Jarrett, and Hogan. Daniels gets on the mic and says they are taking their company back and they are tired of seeing Jarrett's country club brothers coming in and getting all the TV time. Doesn't matter if they get booed or cheered. But they are taking TNA back brick by brick and they will do it by force and disrupt it at every turn and run out every former WWE, WCW, and ECW star there is. They start by tossing a bloody and beaten Flair to the ground. AJ Styles says Flair tried to use him to stay relevant because Flair is washed up old and penniless coot that was forced to come back to wrestling because of all his divorces. Joe talks about that they are tired of being called rookies and newcomers when they've all breathed and bled pro wrestling for years. TNA declares war on Dixie Carter and says if Dixie is going to continue destroying the company, they are going down fighting. Daniels says after him the doors are now officially closed to more country club members unless they are getting thrown out on their butts by them.

[hobbyfan]

That's right! Did it go anywhere after that? I don't seem to remember anything about them having an alliance.

I believe Tori was cut soon after being unmasked, right around the time TE began airing.

[Superness26]

Man the ECW storyline has been great so far. It's killing me! I wonder what it's leading to.