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    Quote Originally Posted by spartanx54 View Post
    Yeah, the only good DC Movie's were the Nolan Batman trilogy, yep I even hated the Burton Batman movies. Don't get me started on Schumacher's Batman *shudders*.

    A JL Movie could definitely work. The Main reason I want to see The Avengers is Joss Whedon has a heavy involvement It, a guy from the comics industry.

    They should get someone like Geoff Johns to write the script. Green Lantern was a flop, I think if Man of Steel is successful we will more than likely get a JL Movie. And shouldn't DC have a heavy involvement in their films?, isn't DC Entertainment the same thing as Marvel Studios?
    I believe we discussed this whole Marvel films vs DC films in an old thread, and one of the conclusions we came up with was Marvel had alot more films out in alot more studios for about ten years. One of which wasnt even a 1st tier character. It wasn't about taking chances or anything it was almost like blind luck luck. Disney wisely bought Marvel including their new film studio, and we honestly don't know the whole dealings with that acquisition as in whether or not Marvel Studios had retained some of their individual power to some degree, much like Pixar. I'm just saying I don't think everything is cut and dry.

    My issue with DC heroes has nothing to do with character its simply exposure. Exposure can make a character, much like Wesley Snipes reinvented Blade. It's similar to how RDJ fused with Tony Stark and changed our interpretation of the character, while not changing the character completely. The opposite is what happened with Green Lantern by stunt casting Reynolds instead of retaining the integrity of Hal Jordan character. If Johnny Depp is cast as Aquaman tomorrow, he'd not only be a 1st tier character, but depending on interpretation of how he plays him, it could go either way. They must stick to the integrity of the character and it would help if the filmmakers get that.

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    The on again, off again Justice League movie seems to have been turned back on with a new writer.

    The studio has hired Gangster Squad screenwriter Will Beall to write the script for the Justice League adaptation. He's also written a few episodes of the TV series Castle.
    http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/5/...rner-bros.html

    http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118055082

    I guess the insane numbers of Avengers was just too much for WB to let the project linger. I wonder how soon before it shuts down again
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    Not familiar with that guy's work, but at least it's a step forward. Though I'll still be skeptical that this is actually happening until a trailer's released.

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    Cool, they could bring Bale Batman, Cavill Supes, Reynolds Lantern, and the newly Flash who I hope is Wally West, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter all can be introduced on the film itself. Awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmxx116 View Post
    Cool, they could bring Bale Batman, Cavill Supes, Reynolds Lantern, and the newly Flash who I hope is Wally West, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter all can be introduced on the film itself. Awesome
    Expect, IIRC, Bale has stated he has no interest in douing a Justice League movie, so that's not gonna happen. It'll probably be the post-Nolan reboot Batman if that.
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    I think Warner Brothers is in a very tought spot. They could do a Justice League movie which ties a bunch of movies together, but then they could very easily be accused of copying Marvel. But Marvel has set a precedent, and it almost feels as if it should be done that way.

    There's also the issue of the characters. If Green Lantern had done well I think that a DC Movie Universe would be well underway. But it flopped and I don't think many people want to see the Reynolds Green Lantern again, myself included. And then there is Superman. We don't know if Man of Steel will be a hit. Superman Returns proved Superman is not invincible at the box office (it did well, but should have been better) People have come to love the Bale/Nolan Batman version (if not Bale himself) It's too soon to reboot it again. Plus there is Wonder Woman which is in the lowest pit of development hell. I'm interested to see what they do, but The Avengers shows they have to do something or get left way in the dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLU Dude View Post
    Expect, IIRC, Bale has stated he has no interest in douing a Justice League movie, so that's not gonna happen. It'll probably be the post-Nolan reboot Batman if that.
    Source? The only time I've heard Bale talk about himself in a JL film was from this quote a few years back:

    In a recent interview with IGN, Bale spoke about the possibility of a Justice League movie. Will it happen? The short answer is “maybe.” Damn. These Hollywood types are so very sneaky. Check out Bale’s own words right here:

    “It’s like I was saying to Chris [Nolan] – I’ll be probably doing this in dinner theater somewhere in my 50s, so I won’t knock it. Because who knows where I’ll end up?”
    In any case, Bale has likely moved on. He's set himself up a great spot in Hollywood; he'll be in one of this year's biggest grossers, and has accrued a great deal of acting cred that allows him to be free of the genre for years to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatKid View Post
    Source? The only time I've heard Bale talk about himself in a JL film was from this quote a few years back:



    In any case, Bale has likely moved on. He's set himself up a great spot in Hollywood; he'll be in one of this year's biggest grossers, and has accrued a great deal of acting cred that allows him to be free of the genre for years to come.
    Bale has repeatedly said that TDKR is his last foray into the role, but recently said that he would come back if Nolan were to pull a good idea for Batman 4 out of his hat. Justice League does not fit into that equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spideyzilla
    We don't know if Man of Steel will be a hit. Superman Returns proved Superman is not invincible at the box office (it did well, but should have been better) People have come to love the Bale/Nolan Batman version (if not Bale himself) It's too soon to reboot it again. Plus there is Wonder Woman which is in the lowest pit of development hell. I'm interested to see what they do, but The Avengers shows they have to do something or get left way in the dust.
    Pretty sure Henry Cavil's Superman is in a separate universe. Nolan said he wanted Superman to be in his own universe ala Nolan's Batman.

    Since Green Lantern was a flop critically and at the box office, I hope they do the original Bruce Timm Justice League lineup for the JL movie.
    Instead of Hal Jordan as GL, we could get Hawkgirl. And instead of Aquaman, they should do Shayera Hol (Hawkgirl).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spideyzilla View Post
    Bale has repeatedly said that TDKR is his last foray into the role, but recently said that he would come back if Nolan were to pull a good idea for Batman 4 out of his hat. Justice League does not fit into that equation.
    I just put up a quote from Bale himself that clashes against the notion that JL is completely out of the equation. Again, if Bale has expounded further on the topic I'd love to see it. But thus far, his only direct answer has amounted to, "it's not impossible". I'll take his words over anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatKid View Post
    I just put up a quote from Bale himself that clashes against the notion that JL is completely out of the equation. Again, if Bale has expounded further on the topic I'd love to see it. But thus far, his only direct answer has amounted to, "it's not impossible". I'll take his words over anything else.
    Didn't see that. But it doesn't mean much. It could happen, but with him is another matter. I've gotten the vibe from him that he wants to move on, and I can't blame him. As for Superman in another universe: probably, but if it's successful and well made anything can happen. Iron Man was originally thought of as a standalone movie too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spideyzilla
    Didn't see that. But it doesn't mean much. It could happen, but with him is another matter. I've gotten the vibe from him that he wants to move on, and I can't blame him. As for Superman in another universe: probably, but if it's successful and well made anything can happen. Iron Man was originally thought of as a standalone movie too.
    True but at the same time it did have the first after credit scene that essentially set up The Avengers.

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    True but at the same time it did have the first after credit scene that essentially set up The Avengers.
    Yeah, but that wasn't always the case. From what I understand the whole SHIELD thing was thought of later. It was a standalone thing for a while.

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    I just don't think a Justice League movie can work if it builds off other DC movies. The Marvel movies hewed pretty close to the basic elements of the comics characters and tried really hard to make them all seem to come from a world that could believably fit together. The DC movies radically reinvent their characters, create cinematic worlds that are strongly influenced by the director's vision, and vary ridiculously in tone.

    Also, Nolan is going to kill his version of Batman. I really feel like that's going to happen. Too many things point toward a heroic sacrificial death. So you need a new Batman movie before any Justice League movie. And you need a Wonderwoman movie and a Superman movie with a recognizable Superman. And a good Green Lantern movie, because the last one was awful.
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    Its probably been mentioned many times but they should seriously get Bruce timm, alan burnett or some of the crew to act as at least a consultant or producer. Seriously, why not get all the help they can get? JL is something they NEED to get right or else they're just digging their grave deeper. Honestly, I liked the avengers film but the plot was really nothing special if you compare it to the justice league cartoon series. The DCAU successfully brought batman and superman and the JL to cartoons in a way that the marvel movies has and its ridiculous that wb cant get a good handle on for their movies too.

    And I wish they would stop saying darker and edgier because clearly even avengers or the other successful marvel films weren't ALL edgy and gritty realism. Focus on character character character! Its simple story telling. Most importantly how do these characters develop and evolve throughout the movie.

    As for dark knight rises, my guess is that nolan may pay homage to dark knight returns with bruce sacrificing himself for gotham but is then revealed to be an act with bruce secretly alive and in hiding.

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    I just can't see them moving forward with this any time soon. While doing a solo JL film is a plausible option, it is a non-fanboy audience that they're going to have the most trouble with. Us DCAU and comics fans know what we would like and expect, but a new generation of kids not knowing anything about these characters is going to automatically accuse it as an Avengers rip-off.

    The acting needs to be there knowing the characters, unlike what Reynolds did with Jordan. Another option is to not include a GL, but use Hawkman. Another thing is to make sure the villain is capable of defeating every hero. I think that was one flaw I had with Avengers, was making each character connected to the villain. Just a personal issue I have.

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    Here's everything Cosmic Book News claims to have been told about the upcoming films.

    http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/con...n-lantern-flas

    • Our source tells us that the major developments are underway at DC Entertainment — and the Man of Steel will spearhead it all.

    • The Man of Steel will be chapter #1 of a shared universe, it will all bend around that film.

    • In chronological terms, the Man of Steel is the first.

    • Henry Cavill will be given a new contract after Man of Steel that would probably include a pay raise along with his new terms that feature the Justice League film and subsequent sequels.

    • Lobo will be the second movie after Man of Steel, and is said to take place off Earth and won't affect any of the other films.

    The Flash and Wonder Woman (Nicolas Winding Refn is expected to be directing) scripts will be spin-offs from the Justice League film that should be released summer 2014/2015, and The Flash will be rewritten to fit around events that will transpire in Justice League.

    • Ryan Reynolds will be expected to reprise his role as Green Lantern, and the events that transpired in his film - although they won't be ignored in the Justice League Movie, they won't be acknowledged either. It will sort of be hints to his backstory, and the character will be more serious than in the solo film (more like how he was towards the end of the film).

    • The Green Lantern sequel has a treatment but the situation is unclear. It most likely will be brought to a stage where it is near getting the green light, and will be held there until things become clearer where that franchise is headed.

    • The rebooted Batman film (won't be an origin story, but will focus on a Batman who is entering his second year as a hero) will be a part of the same universe.

    • The details plot wise for the Justice League Movie are unknown, but a couple comic book writers have penned the treatment that Will Beall will be scripting.

    • Christopher Nolan won't be directing the Justice League Movie.

    • There aren't any directors set for the Justice League Movie yet, although a shortlist has been drawn up (Matt Reeves, Jonathan Liebsman, David Yates are rumoured within WB) by the execs.

    • The budget for the Justice League Movie will be around $270 million.

    • DC are looking to release 2 films a year. So expect something like this:

    Man of Steel (2013) Zack Snyder; David Goyer & Christopher Nolan; HenryCavill

    Lobo (2014) Brad Peyton; TBA

    Justice League (2015) TBA;

    The Batman (2016)

    Wonder Woman (2016) TBA (Most Likely Nicolas Winding Refn); Michael Goldenburg

    The Flash (2017) TBA; Greg Berlanti, Marc Gruggenheim & Michael Green; TBA

    Updated 6/7/12
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    • The Justice League movie is David Yates' to lose; he is the heavy favorite to become director of the movie.

    • The look of the film will not be as colorful or as bright as Marvel's The Avengers — which looked like a comic book in real life.

    • The Justice League Movie will look like an epic blockbuster film in tone with The Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel, which is something Warner Bros. is keen on — to avoid similarities with The Avengers.

    • Christopher Nolan is "godfathering" the project from a distance, meaning more or less Warner Bros. went to him and asked his opinions and how he would he do things.

    • Christopher Nolan may well be credited as an Executive Producer on the film with wife Emma Thomas.

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    the way the original article is worded/written is confusing me. is christopher nolan having a role in the justice league movie, or was that bullitt point only regarding the man of steel? if nolan is going to be "godfathering" all these projects, why dont they just man up and make the nolan/bale batman part of the continuity and do at least a 4th nolan and bale batman movie? what's next, nolan "godfathering" the batman reboot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rggkjg1 View Post
    the way the original article is worded/written is confusing me. is christopher nolan having a role in the justice league movie, or was that bullitt point only regarding the man of steel? if nolan is going to be "godfathering" all these projects, why dont they just man up and make the nolan/bale batman part of the continuity and do at least a 4th nolan and bale batman movie? what's next, nolan "godfathering" the batman reboot?
    Yes, actually.
    http://www.movieweb.com/news/christo...k-knight-rises

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spideyzilla View Post
    oh jeez. if he's "godfathering" the batman reboot, then why cant they just make a batman 4 and have it released a year before or after the dc movie universe is established with the justice league movie? and i'm sure someone is going to remind me about the realism and how it wont work in the already established nolan batman continuity. if that's the case, and realism is such a big deal, then why is christopher nolan getting involved in a superman movie and possibly in the justice league movie?
    Drop everything you are doing and google "michael keaton birdman". They are making a BIRDMAN movie starring MICHAEL KEATON. (supposedly not related to the Hanna-Barbera Birdman)

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