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    Smallville "Crimson" Talkback (Spoilers)

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    The CW delivers some more new Smallville tonight at 8 p.m. ET. Last week was Labyrinth.

    Red kryptonite returns and affects Lois & Clark! Here is the official preview from CWTV.com.

    Smallville #6-13 "Crimson"
    After Lois (Erica Durance) tries on lipstick made with red kryptonite, she becomes overwhelmed with desire for Clark (Tom Welling) and makes her move. The two share a kiss, transferring the red kryptonite to Clark and his inhibitions immediately shut down causing "bad-Clark" to emerge.

    Fueled by the red rock, Clark decides to break up Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) and Lana's (Kristin Kreuk) wedding dinner and kidnap the bride-to-be.

    Allison Mack, John Glover and Annette O'Toole also star. Brian Peterson & Kelly Souders wrote the episode directed by Glen Winter.
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    Call me crazy, but I think the FDA should start cracking down on all these companies that are using meteor rocks as product ingredients.
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    Stupid pop psychology crap. Inhibitions are a part of people's personalities, stripping them doesn't bring the "truth" out.
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    So was that woman selling the love potions and such supposed to be Destiny or the New God of bad plot devices?
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    I guess this fills one of the required occasionally "let's have Clark kiss a lot of people" episodes.

    Didn't Clark give the CD (and case) to Lois as a distraction so he could run away? How did he have it at the Planet?

    WAY too many little hints that Lois & Clark will end up together. I'll accept one or two given the main plot for this episode, but it was constant. Saying "Lois & Clark" twice in a row, intertwined destinies, "walk around the corner," etc. I'm so sick of it.

    Once again we get another episode with Lex being totally dragged down by this Lex & Lana story arc. Do any fans like her and what she's doing to Lex?

    We did get Clark telling off his Ma over her behavior. That part I liked. It shouldn't have been in front of a bunch of random people, but I'll take it anyway.

    I'm also glad Chloe and Jimmy are broken up. One more chance of seeing a Clark/Chloe relationship. They keep throwing so many Lois & Clark hints that I'm being to hope it's a red herring and Chloe will end up with him in the end.

    Regular Kryptonite cancels the effects of Red Kryptonite. There's a random helps-the-plot-of-the-week development.

    Oh, and what was up with going to Oliver's place. Just an excuse to use the set one last time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbert View Post
    Oh, and what was up with going to Oliver's place. Just an excuse to use the set one last time?
    I actually think that will play a role in some future episode. Ollie probably has the place monitored with cameras while he's away. When he returns, chances are a videotape of Lois and Clark's "heavy petting" will show up around the same time to cause headaches for all parties involved.

    I'm also against the Lois and Clark hints. If you threw away the source material for the show (Superman comics) and just focused on the story that Smallville itself is telling, Lois and Clark just doesn't make sense. The build since the start of the show has been between Clark and Chloe, they have the chemistry, they have the storyline. The only reason why Clark and Lois is even being hinted at is to satisfy comic book purists. I'd hate to see the show throw away 5-6 seasons of story just to match up with a completely different media and satisfy a group of people who are still upset that Clark didn't name his dog Krypto.

    And what exactly was Lana holding at the end? Sorry to be crude, but I almost thought it was some kind of homemade abortion tool. I hope I'm wrong on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackoutCreature View Post
    And what exactly was Lana holding at the end? Sorry to be crude, but I almost thought it was some kind of homemade abortion tool. I hope I'm wrong on that.
    Bwahaha...let's hope not. That'd be very painful if it was.

    It was the crowbar Lex used when he hit Clark in the barn. They briefly showed it, but the crowbar was heavily bent (due to Clark's skin), and Lana managed to grab it. So now she knows something is up.

    Also surprised no one brought up the revelation of Lex doing something with the baby. I suspect 33.1 has something to do with it.
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    I forgot to mention, after the way Clark behaved in this episode, there should be some serious repercussions. I mean, Lana implied he's using drugs. Yet, somehow, I have a feeling it will all be reduced to just his mention of the baby.

    BlackoutCreature, I actually thought about the possibility of Oliver seeing surveillance during the show and forgot while I was posting my comments. I agree they could be going in that direction, but I have the feeling it either won't be mentioned (similar to how Clark never seems to be seen my Lex's security cameras) or it will be briefly mentioned and quickly forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BatKid View Post

    Also surprised no one brought up the revelation of Lex doing something with the baby. I suspect 33.1 has something to do with it.
    I suspect that there is a little bit of Zod still in Lex, manipulating him. I thought this episode was going to be a bad one with it's obvious uses of red k and the whole tired "hey, Clark and Lois are going to be an item in the future, weee", but in seeing the ending scenes and reading about the ep, sounds like it turned out okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbert View Post
    I forgot to mention, after the way Clark behaved in this episode, there should be some serious repercussions. I mean, Lana implied he's using drugs. Yet, somehow, I have a feeling it will all be reduced to just his mention of the baby.

    Speaking of that, did anyone notice that Jimmy was the only to complain about Clark behavior after it happened? I mean Chloe and rest already forgave him like they have done in past yet Jimmy wasn't. It seems Jimmy is the only sane person on the show.

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    Hey, why am I the only one who voted? I thought this was a pretty good episode. A lot of that hinges on what will happen after this, but if Lana finally finds out Clark's secret, and the Clark/Chloe thing is actually discussed, it'll be pretty good. I still have hope that this show can move something forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbert View Post
    Didn't Clark give the CD (and case) to Lois as a distraction so he could run away? How did he have it at the Planet?
    She probably just left it at his house.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackoutCreature View Post
    I'm also against the Lois and Clark hints. If you threw away the source material for the show (Superman comics) and just focused on the story that Smallville itself is telling, Lois and Clark just doesn't make sense. The build since the start of the show has been between Clark and Chloe, they have the chemistry, they have the storyline.
    It does make sense because Lois and Clark have always had this chemistry between them. Chloe noticed it in an early episode, and it made her a little sad. I just love Lois and Clark's banter, which is probably why I enjoy seeing them acknowledge their mutual attraction to some extent. And it's not like it's going to be a permanent thing, Clark said Lois was his "future", but this is the "present", which I think sums up Clark's relationships pretty well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbert View Post
    I forgot to mention, after the way Clark behaved in this episode, there should be some serious repercussions. I mean, Lana implied he's using drugs. Yet, somehow, I have a feeling it will all be reduced to just his mention of the baby.
    I was thinking the same thing. The phrase "He must be on something" must've been said at least three times. It's not shocking what he said and did while he was "on something", but the fact that Lana would think that Clark would take drugs in the first place has potential to develop into something. Martha and Chloe know the truth, Lois forgot everything, but Lana, Lex, and Jimmy all saw the worst Clark is capable of.

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    I thought this was a bad episode. Only good parts of this was it looks like Lana will finally find out Clark's secret and the 33.1 baby!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90'sCartoonMan View Post
    She probably just left it at his house.
    But all indications are that Clark ran away from Lois (in his house) directly to the Planet. Based on the way he took off, I doubt he made a u-turn to go back into the lion's den for evidence.

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    I really liked this episode, I thought the Clois stuff worked really well.

    The minute I heard the mentioning of a unusual pregnancy, I thought 'ah, so Lex drugged her through her food and that's how she got...'
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    The mention at the end keeps me wanting to see what this child will be like. I sure hope that don't make it Supergirl, though in one alternate comic verse Supergirl is the daughter of Lana and Lex. If so, they're making her a kryptonite freak.

    I'm surprised at how blunt Martha was at the end to Clark. "You need to let out your feelings." I'm glad Lana knows now, but I can only imagine the restraint Lois and Clark will have around each other now. I felt this was the best episode of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowGUN View Post
    Speaking of that, did anyone notice that Jimmy was the only to complain about Clark behavior after it happened? I mean Chloe and rest already forgave him like they have done in past yet Jimmy wasn't. It seems Jimmy is the only sane person on the show.
    Martha forgiving him made sense because we saw them talk about the inner feelings it after Clark got better. Chloe forgiving him makes less sense. I can understand trying to protect him because of who he is and the repercussions of not doing so would get people killed possibly, but that doesnt mean she still has to remain close to him. His true feelings came out after all.

    It's just like as if we were to get drunk. People use alcohol as an excuse for outrageous behavior and remarks. All alcohol does is bring out what's inside us. If we are happy people inside, then that comes out when we drink. If we are mean and biggotted, that's what comes out as in the case of a wife beater. Chloe should still protect Clark yes, and help him when she can, but she shouldnt be considering him a good friend after realizing how he really sees her.

    And yes, the Lois thing is WAY overdeveloped and rushed. For her to even BE there is rushed.

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    Martha forgiving him made sense because we saw them talk about the inner feelings it after Clark got better. Chloe forgiving him makes less sense. I can understand trying to protect him because of who he is and the repercussions of not doing so would get people killed possibly, but that doesnt mean she still has to remain close to him. His true feelings came out after all.
    Chloe forgave him because she WANTS to forgive him. She's basically completely in love with him because he affords her a better glimpse into the world of mystery that she is so obsessed with. So even if she's not in love with HIM, she's in love with the world he includes her into.

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    Yes, but did that cruel "string you along" comment really sound like something Superman would practice, let alone say? I think Red K just makes him meaner, and some things may come out, but not everything is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martianinvader View Post
    Yes, but did that cruel "string you along" comment really sound like something Superman would practice, let alone say? I think Red K just makes him meaner, and some things may come out, but not everything is true.
    Yes, but of course he is not Superman. He is not yet a man...still a young boy really. He is still developing into the man he will become. He is about 19 or so. Think about how people act when they are 19 and how they act when 22-25. Dramatically different most of the time.

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    ***1/2

    This episode doesn't rank very high for me after how I much I have enjoyed this season as a whole. While it was a little different with the involvement of Lois, it just felt like a recycle of different pieces of every other time Clark has felt the effects of red rocks. The concept of Lois also being affected was interesting to some degree and I liked seeing her experience such a drastic change, it was like we've seen it all before.

    Jimmy's line, "It's so weird to see her acting like a girl" wins some points though, it was well-timed.

    I didn't even really care that Clark outed Lex and Lana, although Lex implying that he apparently has something going on with the doctor regarding Lana's pregnancy certainly was a big reveal, although not so surprising really.

    I felt bad for Jimmy when he was breaking up with Chloe. Jimmy did indeed sound like the only sane one in the episode. I hope this isn't the last we see of him.
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