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    The Turtles Are Back....In Time



    "This is really gonna screw up history." - Casey Jones

    Release Date: March 30, 1990
    Studio: New Line Cinema
    Director: Stuart Gillard
    Starring: Elias Koteas, Paige Turco, Stuart Wilson, Sab Shimono, Vivian Wu, Corey Feldman

    Plot Summary: When a magic scepter accidentally transports April back through time to 17th Century Japan, the boys take-off in hot pursuit, cowabungling their way out of the sewers right into Samurai-O-Rama! Now they must battle the evil Lord Norinaga to reclaim the magic scepter that will bring them back below the subways of New York City.

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    This movie wasn't much of an action movie and it's not really as good as the other two turtles movies but let me tell you what it did have... some really great cheese. This movie is full of some great jokes and one-liners. Also the Japanese people speak Japanese (subbed in English) and I think that's pretty nifty. It's a fun movie and since it's only about 9 bucks on DVD it's no big commitment. If you've never seen it and you like TMNT or comics and cartoons in general then you probably should at least rent it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketch
    Also the Japanese people speak Japanese (subbed in English) and I think that's pretty nifty.
    Do they? I don't remember that...

    Having seen the new series now, I guess the time scepter originated from the Renet stories in the comics.

    Honestly I'm afraid to watch this one now. I have it on vhs somewhere. The first movie holds up well, the second just sinks. Is it worth tarnishing my memories of this one?
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    This movie is an abomination. It completely spits in the face of the characters (Splinter especially). I won't even really start going into its every problem, because that's a ten-page essay. But I will say this. Considering the infinite stories that could've been told with the Ninja Turtles, this movie features one of the most unnecessarily asinine plots ever. I'd always wondered what tragic turn of events could have led THIS to be worthy of being the Turtles' third (and final) movie, considering their rich library of characters and adventures. And it never made sense to me.

    Until I watched the trailer on the DVD when I got the box set.

    The way it starts off like a serious action epic and then all of a sudden, the Ninja Turtles are there; that absurdity is loyal to the spirit of the TMNT, and its nuttier comic book origins. Although I would still much rather have had a gritty inner city crime story like the first one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminatah
    Although I would still much rather have had a gritty inner city crime story like the first one.

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    Exactly my thoughts. They had Elias Koteas back as Casey Jones which was fantastic. They could have made a fantastic film, but they didn't.

    And on a sidenote, why did the turtle suits get LESS realistic looking as the series progressed? I find it odd how the suits in the '89 film blow away the ones in the '93 film.
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    I remember seeing this in the threatre..... don't remember much except asking, "Why...." after it was over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketch
    Also the Japanese people speak Japanese (subbed in English) and I think that's pretty nifty.
    Wasn't that the case with Tatsu as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRdude
    Wasn't that the case with Tatsu as well?
    Tatsu's voice wasn't the actor's though, and it wasn't subbed.
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    Tatsu would speak English though, because he was in present-day New York City. Not feudal Japan.

    Incidentally, however, the Japanese people in TMNT III speak English, but it is explained early on that they do so because Japan is involved in heavy trade with the west, so naturally they would have learned the language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdp
    Release Date: March 30, 1990
    That was when the original movie came out. Not this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke
    Tatsu's voice wasn't the actor's though, and it wasn't subbed.
    Never mind. I got "subbed" confused with "dubbed".
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    This is my childhood favorite, but I'm not going to deny the fact that it was pretty crappy...(I still love it though)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandi-chan View Post
    This is my childhood favorite, but I'm not going to deny the fact that it was pretty crappy...(I still love it though)
    I am so incredibly relieved with this thread. I believe the bias of Turtle fans make this movie worse than it is. It was very bad, but in the eyes of that "Video Game Nerd" fellow with his video interview he made it sound like the 8th sign of the Apokolips.

    Angry video game nerd guy sees the 2nd Turtle movie as a symbolic end of and salute to the 80s (top notch opinion that is; nothing I love more than symbolism). I see Turtles 3 as the end of TV/Movie Turtle originality and creativity.

    They went a completely different route than they could have, since they had a well of stories and characters to dive into, but the movie itself was fun and creative. The name itself, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, is symbolic for the style of art/entertainment you're going to get: a more original and creative experience than you've ever seen. So I could have imagined a Turtles movie or show attempted to be made in the age of reality TV:

    "Who Wants to Marry a Turtle?"

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    And on a sidenote, why did the turtle suits get LESS realistic looking as the series progressed? I find it odd how the suits in the '89 film blow away the ones in the '93 film.
    Something I thought since I was like 12 which may or may not have anything to do with it considering I was like 12: The loss of Jim Henson years before. I always felt Turtles 1 was flawless (potentially dated now most likely), Turtles 2 was good because it was dedicated to his memory, and Turtles 3 had horrible Animatronics because he was no longer with us.

    Imagine this from the head of a 12 year old, then it'll make more sense. I just missed Jim Henson so badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandi-chan View Post
    This is my childhood favorite, but I'm not going to deny the fact that it was pretty crappy...(I still love it though)
    I feel the same way about Secret of the Ooze.
    Not it will most likely do any good, but I encourage any interested parties to sign this petition.
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    I watched it about last week. I found this one ok. I still like 2 better. I couldn't stay awake through the first one I found it extremely boring.

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    My girlfriend never seeing any of them made it final: I was buying the first two. Let me put it this way...I skipped out on the box set because I didn't want to spend the money on this one. I rather just buy the first two.
    Still, I love that one song. You know the one. During the credits? Love it.

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    Even as a kid i hated this movie, it cemented the turtles downfall

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    I love the first one, like the second one, hate the third. Like others have said, even as a kid I hated it and was like, "This sucks!" I know they've done it in the cartoon, but I thought having the turtles time travel was stupid. I like them in the big bad city. It was nice to see Elias Koteas return as Casey Jones, but they basically just wasted him.
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    An interesting but missed opportunity,

    Granted, this movie is a guilty pleasure of mine, I do agree that the third movie would have done better by adapting other Ninja Turtle characters.

    Someone on youtube, responded to the AVGN's rant on the movie, saying that the whole time travel story could have worked had they taken another direction with it. He brings up the fact that in the Foot Clan originate from ancient Japanese clan known as The Foot.

    So, if the movie actually had them encounter the original Foot Clan, do you think it would have had better reception?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    And on a sidenote, why did the turtle suits get LESS realistic looking as the series progressed? I find it odd how the suits in the '89 film blow away the ones in the '93 film.
    Honestly, I thought the Secret of the Ooze suits were the best of the three films.
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