Terminator 3 (muscle-bound hero's)

[NewMaxFranklin]

With (spelling?) Schwartzzenegger's career in limbo, following a string of lack luster films, with lousy box-office performances, there is serious "talk" of a new Terminator movie, which I can only assume will be referred to as T3. The prospect of a new terminator movie inspire, in me, the same reaction as the upcoming Jurassic park sequel. That reaction being, irritation and frustration, leading to disgust and finally apathy. I think the terminator ship has sailed. And frankly, I'm getting really sick of all these friggin' sequels. I'm disappointed when people like Spielberg and Cameron(again spelling?) start crankin' em out. Maybe I'm wrong and the studios are to blame, but I need to put a face and name to my frustration.

I hope against hope that the X-men, Matrix and Star Wars sequels will do lousy business, just to make the industry think twice about all this recycling. But, will I be able to resist seeing these films myself. Hard to say.

Side note: With Sly Stallone and Arnold seeing lousy returns from the public and Van Damme off the map, replaced, at least temporarily buy the likes of Jackie Chan and Jet Li, have we, as consumers, moved beyond the mute-muscle-men movies of the 80's and early 90's, born out of the health-club craze?

Sure, there are still film's like Gladiator. But they have become the exception not the rule. Now days we're about pulp-fiction, sci-fi, Kung-Fu and romantic comedy. It seems, thankfully, crude humor is on it's way out. Seeing that Joe Dirt and that Tom Green movie (neither of which I saw) both tanked.

Do you guy's think the age of the muscle-men is firmly behind us, or is the Hong-Kong obsession simply a fad? After all "The mob is fickle," Gladiator.

[mxyzptlk]

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[Nightwing]

I certainly hope The Matrix and X-Men sequals do extremely well! I don't want MY movies paying for the mistakes of OTHER sequals just to get a message to the industry (which aint gonna happen, especially anytime soon. They won't listen, they never do or will. Money money).

From what I've heard, that Tom Green movie was pretty much junk, except with some funny scenes. But I figured this was a good move. There are some aspects of Tom Green that I like, but for the most part I think it's WAY over the top. But anyways, I thought maybe if he kept his "comedy" in movies, instead of bugging people on the street out of nowhere, maybe there would be a lesser amount of people that would want to kill him.

I don't know or care about a third Terminator movie. I heard like 6 years ago that a third movie would be made inspired by the (spectacular) show at Universal Studios Orlando, but then it faded away cuz no one cared.

[Vigo Sprax]

Theres a difference between movies like The Matrix, Star Wars, X-Men, etc... and other sequels. These movies are made to have sequels! When they wrote out the scripts they did so knowing, or hoping, that they would make enough money for a sequel to continue the story (A popular way to plan it out are Trilogies, ex: Matrix, Star Wars, Unbreakable, etc...)

I just recently saw a new book based on the Terminator 'universe' in my local bookstore, I don't know if its any good or even if the film is based on this book, but the concept is neat. Arnold has signed on to do the movie, Cameron has turned it down.

Personally, I think movies are becomming like TV where we will see franchises of somewhat connected movies (ex: The Mummy Franchise), series of movies (ex: James Bond, Star Trek), and very few original movies...at least for a while. Right now the entire entertainment industry, not just movies, is in a slump and since they can't think up anything original or good they're relying on their pre-established trademarks to either remake or sequelize.

[Naraht]

Hehehe, I like re-awakening old threads...
Well, T3 is a go...

anyway,since this thread seems to be more about sequels than T3...

When done right, Sequels are great. Star Wars for example (excluding TPM, which was only ok)
The Indie movies are another example of Sequels done right.

JP3 was aparrently better than JP2..but considering the fact that JP2 was worse than Batman & Robin...I'm not surprised.

I dunno...
While some sequels exceed the movies that spawned them (T2, Rush Hour 2, STII:TWOK) some bite the big one.


Only time will tell.

[James Harvey]

If sequels are done right, then they're not so bad. If there were no sequels we would not have gotten the great Aliens, or Terminator 2, both films suprioer than the original. When Hollywood makes a bad sequel, then they can be easily swept under the rug and forgotten (Breakin' It 2: Electric Bugaloo anyone?). And Hollywood isn't being unoriginal for most sequels, again if they're done right. I don't mind sequels that much, as long as they work.

[NewMaxFranklin]

MAN! This thread is almost eight months old! When I read it I though, "huh, I don't remember typing this." Then I looked at the date.

I still say sequels are lame. I'll see the LOTR trilogy because I enjoyed the first installment. And, as Vigo Sprax brought up, I can use the planned trilogy defense as a "no sequels" loophole.

I'll revise my statement. I think sequels are ok as long as there is a story to be told. If the characters change and grow and there is artistric drive behind the project, then more power too it.

[joker]

Originally posted by Dick Grayson
Breakin' It 2: Electric Bugaloo anyone?.

i never knew there was a breakin' it 1