Toon Zone Talkback - Disney/Pixar's "Brave" Pre-Release Discussion

**HG Revolution** · 03-28-2011, 05:03 PM

This is the talkback thread for EW Has First Look At Pixar's "Brave".

Is Brenda Chapman actually still working on the film collaboratively, or has she left Pixar and the credit is just there for Pixar to still brag about "their first female director"?

**Alph** · 03-29-2011, 02:37 AM

You know, I almost want to feel skeptical about the fact that the first female protagonist they're having is....a princess. Not only is the concept old and overused, but it perpetuates the outdated idea that being born into royalty somehow makes you more significant. Plus, I'm not a very big idea of the conservative attitude behind "sacred customs".

But then I remember that Pixar can do no wrong....so I'll remain faithful for now.

**Spaceman** · 03-29-2011, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Alph

You know, I almost want to feel skeptical about the fact that the first female protagonist they're having is....a princess.

Why? Seriously, why?

I'm sick of this reflexive negativity towards Merida being a princess. Rapunzel was a princess and one of the most charming and entertaining Disney leads in a long time. Tiana was great as well. Why can't Merida be a great character as a princess as well?

I was worried about the possible impact of Chapman's departure on the film, but it seems like they're keeping the heart and soul of the story. I think this will be one of Pixar's best.

**Monterey Jack** · 03-29-2011, 10:21 AM

I'm just happy this isn't a sequel.

**Dudley** · 03-29-2011, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

I'm just happy this isn't a sequel.

Same here. This is the only Pixar film I'm looking forward to seeing.

**Ed Liu** · 03-29-2011, 10:41 PM

Just FYI, Disney released a fourth new concept art image to the press, which is now included in the article (along with the other 3) direct from our servers.

Because we love you, that's why

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**moo92** · 03-30-2011, 01:00 AM

I am so excited for this movie!

**the greenman** · 03-30-2011, 01:26 AM

Wow, this looks really awesome. Looking forward to this one. I just hope it doesn't scare the little boys away. Us adults don't care, I own the Wonder Woman dtv, well she's a different story I guess.

**Dr.Pepper** · 03-30-2011, 01:25 PM

All I know is I am looking forward to this movie. Like people said before I hope boys won't think it's too girly.

**adoptedBatpuppy** · 03-31-2011, 01:00 AM

Hmm..kind of reminds me of something that Disney done before using traditional animation. Have to see the movie of course, before jumping to any conclusions!

**Light Lucario** · 03-31-2011, 09:47 PM

This sounds pretty interesting. Although it is only concept art, Merida doesn't look like a typical princess figure, which is kind of cool. I wonder what that ill-fated wish has to do with settling matters in her father's kingdom. I'm not sure if I'll go into theaters to see it, but I'll definitely read more about it as they continue releasing information about the film.

**Ed Liu** · 04-01-2011, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Dr.Pepper

All I know is I am looking forward to this movie. Like people said before I hope boys won't think it's too girly.

If you show me a boy who thinks a redhead slinging a bow on horseback is too girly, then I will show you a boy in dire need of a brick upside his big stupid head before he grows up to be a moron

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I have to admit that I didn't register much one way or the other until I saw this concept art and now I'm excited. If the movie looks like the concept art, I think it's going to be COOL. Plus, Kelly Macdonald as the heroine means real Scottish brogue, and one that I could listen to all day.

**the greenman** · 04-01-2011, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Ed Liu

If you show me a boy who thinks a redhead slinging a bow on horseback is too girly, then I will show you a boy in dire need of a brick upside his big stupid head before he grows up to be a moron

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It's not about that, more like good old fashioned peer pressure. I don't imagine too many 8 year old boys talking about "Tangled" at the lunch table. However, this is how the studio thinks, not I. I know boys get dragged to these films by single moms and a bigger group, so they will probably see it.

**Polychrome** · 04-10-2011, 10:30 AM

What the...?

Pixar doing a movie of a princess in a medieval setting? I did NOT see that coming! I'm starting to think Pixar has become more Disney than Disney... I guess that makes sense now though, with John Lasseter practically running the place.

These concept paintings look beautiful. I'm looking forward to it already!

**Vanitas** · 04-10-2011, 09:36 PM

I'm starting to think Pixar has become more Disney than Disney... I guess that makes sense now though, with John Lasseter practically running the place.

I don't know; if "Tangled" proves any indication, Disney may be getting their groove back.

**Polychrome** · 04-12-2011, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Vanitas

I don't know; if "Tangled" proves any indication, Disney may be getting their groove back.

Oh, I don't deny it... but you gotta look at who's name seems to be stamped all over Disney's recent releases.

**Ed Liu** · 04-12-2011, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Polychrome

Oh, I don't deny it... but you gotta look at who's name seems to be stamped all over Disney's recent releases.

Well, John Lasseter IS the chief creative officer of the animation studios. Ain't no "seems" about it -- his name SHOULD stamped all over Disney's recent releases. It has been since he walked in the door with Meet the Robinsons. I thought that getting his talent back on animated films, both DTV and theatrical, was why Disney bought Pixar in the first place.

**Alph** · 04-14-2011, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Spaceman

Why? Seriously, why?

I'm sick of this reflexive negativity towards Merida being a princess. Rapunzel was a princess and one of the most charming and entertaining Disney leads in a long time. Tiana was great as well. Why can't Merida be a great character as a princess as well?

Why are you asking me why, when I explained my reasoning in the very same post you quoted?

Originally Posted by Alph

Not only is the concept old and overused, but it perpetuates the outdated idea that being born into royalty somehow makes you more significant. Plus, I'm not a very big idea of the conservative attitude behind "sacred customs".

"Idea" should be "fan", btw. That was a mistake. But my meaning should be clear enough, I think.