Petition-help stop Snow White 2 from coming!

**Deltamon** · 02-13-2002, 11:59 AM

http://www.petitiononline.com/sw2/petition.html

Perhaps it'll fail, perhaps the folks at Disney won't even bother reading it...

But its better than nothing, at least.

**Mr. Obsession** · 02-13-2002, 12:42 PM

Signed.

Somebody should have started one of these when Di$ney announced Cinderella 2. Not that I think it would have done any good.

Personally I hope that Di$ney looses money on Peter Pan 2, Cinderella 2, Snow White 2, and every other sequel they have planned so that the get the message that we don't want sequels to their classics! We want them to create new, original works. Borrow from other stories if they must. But stop sequelizing the classics!

Right now I wish I had a major share of stock in Di$ney just so that I could sell it to show them how much this news upsets and sickens me.

**RockItShipper** · 02-13-2002, 01:00 PM

An online petition didn't keep Gargoyles in production, peeps.

What keeps something from being made? Lack of interest from the consumer public. Sequels to Disney movies are a curiousity and make money through video (sales and rentals) and tv ad sales. Add in a cheaper production cost and you see why it's a monetary goldmine. Even now, their market power is being tested with Return to Neverland's theatrical release. That means if it does well, more of these sequels may be bumped up to theatres before video. But it's one of those things where the audience gets a look back at characters from a movie, as well as a glimpse of their child(ren). The story is irrevelant, more or less. And that defies what Disney was built on, yet is lower risk financially than a project produced by their feature animation division- even if the latter approaches a sequel with more depth.

**DisneyBoy** · 02-13-2002, 02:20 PM

I'm willing to do anything to try and stop this madness. Snow White 2 my a**!

**ccffan01** · 02-13-2002, 07:27 PM

Anothe ploy of the corrupt company Disney to make some more money.

**RockItShipper** · 02-13-2002, 11:11 PM

Making money's not the problem. Sacrificing quality is. The problem is villains coming out of nowhere. Filmation's Happily Ever After had the queen's brother(?) and SW2 has her sister as the villain. Hunchback 2's plot has an evil magician causing havoc. I mean, it's nice to know that at least dead villains aren't coming back and all. But how long before we see a vengeful Lefou going to bug Belle, the Prince and their kids? (and would they confirm my suspicions about Mrs. Potts and Belle's dad?) That's the type of thing, theme-wise, which isn't so insulting but Lefou's not very threatening to begin with.

Personally, I'd like to see some DTV approach to the pitched material for the Disney Villains show.

**Squall** · 02-14-2002, 02:03 AM

I know this may not be a popular opinion, but I say this: Let the market decide.

I'm sure there are a few B:TAS fans who still are upset about TNBA and S:TAS, and consider BB sacreligious. If they had signed petitions to keep Batman/Superman and Justice League off the air, I'd have been one pissed off Dini/Timm DC Universe fan. But, they came out, and everyone let the market decide. And the market (us, and everyone else who watches the Dini/Timm DC Universe TV shows) loved them!

My point is that, even if Disney fails miserably, they have a right to try. Continuing popular storylines isn't such a bad thing; that's what the Dini/Timm DC Universe has been all about, right?

I think I know what Disney's been thinking. They see Warner Bros. and their DC Universe, they see 20th Century Fox and their Marvel Universe, and Disney's owners said to themselves, "Hey, wait. We've got several 'universes' from which we could work. If WB and Fox can make entire franchises out of their iconic characters, why can't we?"

So, they started small, with sequels and regular TV shows to Aladdin, The Lion King, and Hercules. The Aladdin sequel movies were big hits, as was The Lion King sequel. "Timon & Poomba" and "Hercules" (the TV series) also did really well. So they thought, why stop here? Now they're trying out expanding their other franchises.

I can't say I blame them; if I was the owner of Disney (or Warner Bros., or 20th Century Fox) I'd be doing the same thing. But, I minored in Business in college, so then again, maybe I'm the only one here thinking about this from an economic point of view.

**Deltamon** · 02-14-2002, 12:21 PM

Look, I have no trouble with Disney playing around with their character's 'universes'-Talespin was an animated show that starred characters from The Jungle Book, albeit in totally different settings. Ducktales was partially made to take the character Scrooge McDuck, who at the time had only appeared in the Christmas Carol special as well as a couple of educational shorts, and give him a place to call home, as well as a family in the form of Donald Duck and the Triplets, among others. Most recently we have House of Mouse, which aira newly-made adimated shorts with cutscenes form around a club where many a folk from diffrent Disney universes gather about.

Playing mock tribute to a universe-or creating a whole new one entirely-is a totally different animal from creating direct sequels. Also, some things leave themselves more open to sequels than others-The Rescuers worked because the story let itself open for different tales to be told (mice going around helping people-to this day I wonder why Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers never met with the duo, seeing how well the stories mesh). Toy Story 2 managed to work amazingly well because it was so open-ended enough that no more than a month or two (perhaps more) could have passed between movies...but, that's a moot point, so let me get to my point.

Point is, a fairy tale's weaknesses-or better yet,strenghs-is that they begin and end rather quickly, with only enough room to give you a glimpse of the character's psyche and get you to point a to point z in less than a few chapters. After that, no more story to tell-HAPPILY EVER AFTER. A direct sequel would simply belittle the concept of it being a Fairy Tale.

Finally...no one wants Disney to lose money. They want Disney to *EARN* its money by honoring the traditions the company was founded on. Times change-but not all things have to. There's no need to destroy the Magic for the sake of the Money.