id say early to mid 30's thats just a guess though.
id say early to mid 30's thats just a guess though.
"Remembering’s dangerous" - the Joker
BTAS took place in 1992 because in one episode a magazine cover was dated October of 1992.
TNBA adventures took place in 1997 because in Cold Comfort Bruce donated a check to the children's hospital that was dated for June 1997.
I assume JL will take place in 2001 because they've kept everything in the past up with the current date.
I'm gonna guess Bruce was born in about 1960. Why, because it adds up well with the passing years of events in his lifetime (Andrea Beaumont/Dick's growing up all took place in roughly 9-12 years). So in BTAS time (1992) I'd say he was about 32 years old. In TNBA time (1997) I'd say he was about 37 years old. Now (2001) for JL I'd say he about 40-41 years old. He's few years older than Superman from what we've gathered in the series.
I have always figured Batman in TAS to be about 35 because he is always talked about he is in the prime of his life. Also he can't really be any younger because that would a) throw of the rest of the ages of the people around him and b) he is a man of power in his own business. Leading us a believe because Gotham is a classic early like mid40'-50's American city he would have to be in his mid thirties or no one would take him seriously.
By your reasoning, Batman is the same age as my dad!Originally posted by Mr. Mayhem
I'm gonna guess Bruce was born in about 1960. Why, because it adds up well with the passing years of events in his lifetime (Andrea Beaumont/Dick's growing up all took place in roughly 9-12 years). So in BTAS time (1992) I'd say he was about 32 years old. In TNBA time (1997) I'd say he was about 37 years old. Now (2001) for JL I'd say he about 40-41 years old.
when exactly does the jl series take place? i guess between the end of the new adventures of batman and the death of the joker (from the rotj flashback) since the joker will appear in the injustice gang or legion of doom or whateverthey decided to call the anti-justice league. any thoughts, speculation or opinions? also, if anyone knows, speak up as well.
Not neccesarily. There is no "continuity" in the animated world. Batman Beyond is a possible future, and maybe the Joker isn't dead in the true future. Also, JL isn't neccessarily a part of TNBSA, because Kyle isn't GL and Bruce Timm said they weren't gonna worry about stuff like that.
I think it's all a cop-out, they don't really mean what they produce. I think all the five shows would have much more meaning if they followed the same continuity. But, oh well, what can ya do?
And I've always placed the TNBA Batman in his early forties. He just looks that way.
I assumed that Bruce was in his late 30s in TNBA, around 39 or so. So in JL, he'd be just over 40. That would still allow him to do all of his usual atheltic feats and all. I'd place him at 39 on TNBA. He did have that age epidemic in the Calender Girl episodes.
Regarding the new JL series and the continuity of the already established animated DC universe:
Will the creators actually ignore the previously established Kyle Rayner GL to the extent that Superman will be portrayed as never having heard of the Green Lantern Corps at all, and perhaps meeting the Guardians for the first time? Or will they just not mention Kyle and the previous encounter Superman had with the Guardians? As a matter of fact, if Superman has a throw away line about "having heard of/dealt with the Guardians in the past" there would not be a continuity problem at all.
It seems like JL could establish the following BASIC facts and not be "tied down" to any previous weight of burdening continuity:
1. Superman has knowledge of the existance of the GL Corps and the Guardians of the Universe.
2. Batman and Superman have met and worked together in the past (as have the Joker and Luthor).
3. Superman has met Aquaman.
4. Superman has met and worked with the Flash.
5. The League has never encountered Starro as a threat (because they fight Starro for the first time in Batman Beyond).
And speaking of Batman Beyond, I keep reading on these boards how BB is only a "possible" future. Why is that? Other than the impossability of predicting the future in general, why should I regard BB as anything other than the true future of the animated DC Universe? I never considered the Legion of Super-Heroes in DC Comics to be a "possible" future, so I agree w/kid_flash, why should BB be any different?
1. Bruce Timm and Paul Dini say that Batman beyond isn't the set future for the animated DCU. Personally, I think ir sorta is. The whole death of Joker can easily be worked into the fact that the Joker is alive in JL.
2. Timm said that he will ignore a few key things from Superman: TAS. While the Aquamn episode 'A Fish Story' is still in continuity, 'In Brightest Day...' will be ignored for the sake of John Stewart as the new GL. Also the Flash episode 'Speed Demons' will also still count.
Any BTAS or STAS that conflicts with JL storylines or developments will be simply ignored, says Timm.
I don't think it's all that tough to piece together. Although I think it gets complicated if you consider dates that we see in episodes. As far as time goes, all we have are "years." For example, BTAS took place a few years before TNBA, taking Bruce through his thirty(ish)ies, and JL would be a short time after that.
But if you want to get complicated within my opinion up there, then as far as I know, Bruce is about 60 years old, since he was first seen in the thirties. OR we can consider him 80ish, since Batman first came out in the late thirties/early forties, in which he was around thirty.
Heck, a lot of the decore and setting of BTAS was much like the thirties.
What's also freaky is, we consider Bruce's time to be our time (which I do) and BB as 50 (a lot say 40 because of Tim's line in ROTJ, but I've calculated differently) years in the future, but if BTAS time was considered 1930s, then that would make our present time BB time! lol.
So much like a blood test, or Joel Shumacher making another Batman movie, it's best not to think about it.
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Ok fellow fanboys...
Heres the scoop on Bat's age.
Bruce Wayne traversed the globe studying
under many masters at the age of 18 after
(studying martial arts - escape artist tactics -
battle medicine etc.)
He did this for for four years.
Under the guise of studying abroad -
(earning an actual collegiate degree in
business obtaining credits thru various
universities. . china , france, england, egypt)
He returns to Gotham at the age of 21 approaching
his 22cnd birthday.
The events of Batman Year One take place.
Batman begins his crimefighting career at the
end of 21 approaching his 22cnd birthday.
To parallel Clark Kents career at this point ..
Batman has been operating in the shadows
for a good 9 to 10 months before Clark makes
his official entrance as the man of steel.
To the general public it appears Superman began his
career before Batman because for the first two years
of Batmans career he is little more than an urban myth
to anyone other than the GCPD.
Batman operates solo for three years.
On the third year of Bruces career as Batman he is
23 yrs old - approaching his 24th birthday.
Enter Dick Grayson at age 15 1/2 .
Batman trains Dick for 6 months rigorously ..
Dick's acrobat training making it easier to mold
him into a crime fighter.
At 16 Dick Grayson begins his career as Robin
with Batman at 24 .
Batman and Robin (Dick Grayson ) work together
for 6 years.
At 22 .. Dick Grayson shed the mantle of Robin and
Batman is now 29 approaching 30.
For 5 months Batman operates solo till
Dick Grayson supplies a replacement robin in the
young Jason Drake age 17 . Dick does this
believing that without a Robin - Batman is
becoming dark and reckless .
Batman forgoes training of Jason Drake .. intending
to train Jason ' on the job ' .
Jason drake is robin for a year and a half before
he is killed by the Joker.
Batman is now 31 1/3.
Batman operates solo again for a year
before Tim Drake uncovers his secret.
Batman trains Tim for a year .. having Tim
operate solely from the Batcave.
Tim becomes a field agent - third robin .
Batman is 33.
Batman and Robin ( Tim Drake ) adventure for a year.
Then Bane breaks the Bat. Batman is 34.
Bruce is MIA while Azreal wears the mantle of the
Bat for 7 months till he returns to defeat Azreal and
pass the Mantle to Dick Grayson temporarily.
Dick Grayson is Batman for 4 months.
Bruce returns .
Becomes Batman again.
Bruce is 35 .
A year passes.
As the events of No Mans Land occur Batman is 36.
As you read the current adventures of the Dark Knight at
your local comic book store...
BATMAN IS 36 approaching his 37th birthday.
1) Dude - I think you nailed the age! Your timeline works GREAT! It works, I think. Nice job! Although Jason Drake's name should read Jason Todd.
2) Welcome to the board! From your handle I'd guess your a fan of the great Will Eisner! Glad to see a new face on the board - welcome!
My dear Mr. Sprit--
That was fantastic. You really have nailed Batman's age. I am amazed at how you were able to pinpoint that. I also want to welcome you to the board. Wow-- that was so cool!!
Very interesting, and well done Spirit! It sounds right to me! Out of curiosity, where did you get the dates and ages from?
I agree with Spirit on Batman's age for the comic continuity. I've come up with 37 years of age too. However, I still think the animated Batman is alittle older. Dick came to stay with Bruce at age 9 in the series. In the comics Dick was about 12 when he went to live with Bruce. If you read the opening on the Death In The Family TPB you find out that Bruce a Dick had worked together as Batman and Robin for six years.
He is about 30.
Wow , my first post on a bulletin ever and so much positive
Im overwhelmed - thanks guys.
Ive often tried to reconcile in my mind DC comics continuity ..
unfortunately DC comics cant bother too or its too complicated
to resolve 60 plus years of stories into continuity.
Someone asked where I came up with my ages and figures.
I have to admit there just dates I made up that fit into the
framework of Bat stories Ive read.
The Three Robins reallys is the sticky point with Batman.
The Robins age him.
In Superman comics there are very few key moments in his life
that allow you to age him.
Theres his first year in Metropolis, His Wedding and his death.
All other stories just fit in the gaps.
However Batman's tricky.
How long was Dick with Bruce ? I guessed 6 years ... someone
on the board seems to support that theory.
But if you look at the comics ... ***** coming dangerously close to
bieng the same age as Bruce.
So I think my dates are the only way to resolve the aging Robins
without aging bruce to the point where its unbelievable that
Batman could do the things which he does.
Also keep in mind that Batman has to be around for years to come so DC has to be very carefull about continuing to age
Bats. I would really like to avoid another character rehaul the likes of Crisis.
Heres an interesting question though ... if Bats is 37 :
Are we reading about a Batman at the peak of his powers
or a batman on the Decline.
Personally ... I think were reading about a Batman past the peak
of his physical strength who continues to compensate for his
age with the perfection of his craft.
His experience is compensating for his declining physical prowess.
What do you think guys?
I figured Batman/Bruce was around 33
Nightwing/Dick about 21
and Robin/Tim is 16
If you consider Bruce becoming Batman around age 20 or 21, he takes Dick in when he's 8 or so...
Dick becomes Robin at the age of 10
He's Robin till about 18 then becomes Nightwing.
Tim who is about 14 shows up around when Dick is 20 and becomes Robin at about 15 (he didn't have a license yet)
Barbara/Oracle the same age as Dick or a year younger...
and Jason Todd being 2 years older then Tim
I forgot where I figured all this out...but it makes the most sense...seeing as though Batman is in excellent physical shape and still fairly young and that his Robin's are for the most part grown up...it makes sense for the comics and for the shows
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