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    The Batman Adventures Holiday Special #1 Talkback (Spoilers)

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    With Christmas and the holidays upon us, I thought it would be fun to put up some holiday-themed talkbacks for the board. So, over the next three days, we'll have talkbacks up - one a day - for The Batman Adventures #28, Batman & Robin Adventures #3, and - on Christmas Eve - The Batman Adventures Holiday Special (Sadly, there are no Superman Adventures or Batman Beyond holiday episodes or comics). Also, the talkbacks for "Christmas with the Joker "and "Holiday Knights" will be pushed up on Christmas Eve. Without furthur adieu - let's begin!


    The Batman Adventures Holiday Special #1
    Written by: Various
    Pencilled by: Various
    Inked by: Various

    Batman has to stop an angry Mr. Freeze; Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy kidnap Bruce Wayne with Ivy's hypnotic lipstick, and use his credit cards to treat themselves to a Christmas shopping spree; Bullock and Montoya stake out a Gotham Department Store for pick pockets, but in actuality, it turns out to be the return of Clayface; Joker plans to kill all the people celebrating in Gotham Square on New Year's Eve with a sonic weapon. It is up to Batman and Robin to stop him before the stroke of midnight.

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    I really wish that they had included the Mr. Freeze story in the episode that was based off this comic. Since that was the best story of this comic. But it was nonetheless a excellent book written by none other than Dini himself

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    Originally posted by Batman's Biggest Fan
    I really wish that they had included the Mr. Freeze story in the episode that was based off this comic.
    Tell me about it. Heck, it could have been a whole separate episode! It always make me tear up a little...
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    The Mr. Freeze story is no doubt the highlight of the issue for me. That story and the meeting between Batman and Gordon at the end are probably the best emtional stories. Ronnie's artwork in the Mr. Freeze story always surprises me. It's angular and moody - it fits absolutely perfectly. And who doesn't get shivers of the panel featuring Batman walking away from the tombstone of his parents? Such an awesome panel which DC actually used to advertise the oneshot back in 1994.

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    I wish this had been adapted while it was still BTAS

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    I loved this comic (what more can you say?)

    I really hope Ronnie Del Carmen drops by Batman Adventures sometime for a run. His interpretation of Veronica Vreeland rocked!

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    After several years of hunting, I finally got my hands on this issue less than a week ago. All I can say is, the Mr. Freeze story alone was worth the wait. Too bad it was invalidated by COLD COMFORT. All the other stories were good too, especially (naturally) Batman and Commissioner Gordon's New Years' meeting...that was wonderful. Despite the fact that I knew most of the stories, this issue was very enjoyable, and the Mr. Freeze story made it absolutely fantastic!
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    The mister freeze story shouldn't have been in the episode OR the episode! It should be a MOVIE! And have a spinoff TV miniseries! But it wouldn't have made sense in the TNBA world cuz freeze was a robot then. I hate what they did to the character. The end of Subzero was the perfect ending to the MR. Freeze saga. I wish they just let him be.
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    The ending quote for the Mr. Freeze story broke my heart:

    "Nora and I were married ten years ago on a snowy Christmas Eve like. Nora loved the snow. And I thought it...sad that there should be none this year. And I wouldn't want my Nora to be sad tonight."

    They don't make books like this any more (sob)
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    Ain't that cover fantastic?

    All I can say is, the Mr. Freeze story alone was worth the wait. Too bad it was invalidated by COLD COMFORT.

    Well, you can tell yourself it occured between Heart of Ice and Deep Freeze...as in, after Victor was locked up (though he's seen in Blackgate prison, and not Arkham at the end of HOI, but oh well), and did not yet know that Grant Walker had found and semi-restored Nora. You can't place it before Subzero, because Freeze was in an iceberg then.

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    The most shockin' thing in this book: Harley's a JEW?! What the...?!

    Anyway, yes. The Mr. Freeze story was the best and 'Cold Comfort' epi shoula been thrown in the dumpster.

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    I was always bothered by how they omitted any references to that in the actual episode. I mean, there are plenty of Jewish people in the entertainment industry, right? So, why omit it...?

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    Strange how many echoes there are in books even unrelated ones.

    After reading this epically wonderful issue, I read another book called 'Goodnight Mister Tom', in which an abused, sad boy called Willie Beech gets sent to the country in WWII & a man called Tom Oakley is to look after him. One night he has tea with Willie and tells him that his wife called Rachel died of a rare, incurable and deadly disease (the son she gives birth to died shortly after) and even though she never appears, a lot is revealed about her in the book.

    The story of Victor and Nora Fries is almost danged perfect when you compare the two and how often does THAT happen?! when I read it I remembered the Mr.Freeze story and it reminded that for as underrated as Bruce Timm and co. are, they make the BEST stories EVER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyBoy View Post
    I was always bothered by how they omitted any references to that in the actual episode. I mean, there are plenty of Jewish people in the entertainment industry, right? So, why omit it...?
    I guess to be politically correct. It wouldn't be looked up at to have a white hero with a minority as a villain. Which somewhat annoys me as evil can come in all races (which is why I applaud black Kingsley on Spectacular Spidey). Croc is black, but you wouldn't know that in BTAS (chalk white skin and facial features) or TNBA (looks more reptilian, but closer than BTAS).

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    LOL!

    I got a regular US version, and a German version wich i bought in the now Ex-WB. movieworld themepark in Germany. Not because i speak German, but because the cover of the German version was in Color!!!

    I ofcourse bought it for one very specific reason: BATGIRL!

    Barbara's dress-up scene was cute...

    Harley Quinn being Jewish... I don't really care, but i think you could have guessed it from the show.
    She once called Joker 'shnuckums', wich i always thought sounds like something Jewish, but that's just me, and i also remember her saying the word 'meshugana' somewhere.

    Why it was edited out of the episode, i don't know. I don't think they would mention it if any of the characters are christian or muslim either, so i think they just didn't want any religious references on the show.

    Plus, Harley Quinn IS a villain, so i'm guessing the TV channel might have not wanted to have a show featuring a Jewish villain.

    Personally, i think Barbara Gordon is 3rd or 4rd generation American of a Roman Catholic family from Ireland...

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    When I read the last page, I was like:"Aww"
    so sad

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    For those interested:

    In the re-release of Mad Love, titled "Mad love and other stories", the holiday special issue is included.

    http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Mad-Lov.../dp/1401222455


    ...and for those interested in seeing a little more of Barbara Gordon, the last page of this book features the original uncut version of the page where Babs puts on the Batgirl costume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naninou View Post
    For those interested:

    In the re-release of Mad Love, titled "Mad love and other stories", the holiday special issue is included.

    http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Mad-Lov.../dp/1401222455


    ...and for those interested in seeing a little more of Barbara Gordon, the last page of this book features the original uncut version of the page where Babs puts on the Batgirl costume.
    Is that the same version where she changes in the middle of the crowd? Is it still just the pencils or did they ink and color it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderwall View Post
    Is that the same version where she changes in the middle of the crowd? Is it still just the pencils or did they ink and color it?
    Just the pencils... but i had never seen it before, so i thought it was the first time this uncut version was printed.

    I thought it was pretty cute, anyway...

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