Green Lantern Corps vs Darkseid

[tphile]

Here is a continuity problem if anyone here can solve it

The Green Lantern Corps and the Guardians of OA are the Galaxies Police Force in STAS and JL
So why didn't they do anything about a major threat like Darkseid and Apokolips?
where were they in STAS Apokolips Now and Legacy?
Retcon anyone?

[Alph]

Darkside can beat um all.He was the most powerful force in the universe.

[Jade_GL]

Well, since it was in STAS, I assume they chose to focus on Superman, not the Green Lantern Corps.

I think it's just a matter of focusing on the main character and not inclusing a bunch of other characters. They had one GL spotlight episode in STAS, and they probably assumed that was enough.

I would've loved to see more Green Lantern Corps in episodes, but it was Superman's show, sohe got the spotlight. Maybe they just didn't feel like animating the corps, or maybe it didn't fit into their storyline.

Besides, Darkseid can beat anyone really. He's a god, so it wouldn't really matter anyway, I don't think.

[Knight]

Darkseid is powerful but he is no way unbeatable. There are 3600 Green Lanterns all bearing one of the most powerful weapons in the Universe. If You dont think just 100 of The Corp could beat Darkseid I would like to know why not other than the yellow weakness being exploited.

Superman has beat Darkseid and Sinestro (a former Green Lantern with a ring) is capable of restraing Superman and fighting off a GL all at the same time. Lanterns are extremly powerful.

This exact question was somewhat answered in a Green Lantern special a few years back that saw The Guardians taking action against Apokolips way in the past by sending in several members of the Corp. Darksied used his knowledge of the Lanterns weakness to yellow to even the odds but he was still almost defeated and made a deal with the Guardians and they agreed not to interfere with Darkseids affairs ( I cant remeber why) and they left. Lots of Lanterns where killed and one was even left behind on Apokolips.

[Reed Richards]

"I am power unlike any you have known. Absolute. Infinite. And Unrelenting."

the GL corps rings are fueled by will power. Darkseids will is infinite and because of that the OMEGA BEAMS would destroy the corps

[Jade_GL]

Superman has beat Darkseid and Sinestro (a former Green Lantern with a ring) is capable of restraing Superman and fighting off a GL all at the same time. Lanterns are extremly powerful.

Sinestro had all the power of the other Green Lanterns rings that he stole. In that instance, he was much more powerful than any Green Lantern anywhere, besides Kyle of course, who eventually beat him.

I know that Lanterns are extremely powerful, I've been reading Green Lantern for years. The problem is the GLS in the Timm cartoons have only appeared in one episode of STAS and in the Blackest Day episode. We have no idea if they can gang up on Darkseid and defeat him in these incarnations.

If this was the comic board, I would say that yes, they could, but in the cartoons we know little about the Green Lanterns as a group, just a wroking knowledge really. Enough to get by.

Anyway, if the entire GL Corps ganged up on him, yeah they could probably beat him since SUperman did. However, tehy would have to get through all of the Parademons, supporters of Darkseid, and his inner group of villains, such as the Female Furies, Steppenwolf, and Granny Goodness, just to name a very few. It would be a tough fight.

But I don't think it's ever happened because Darkseid, in the cartoons, has only appeared a few times, and in each instance he was fighting Superman. So, they probably want Superman to take him out alone, not call in a group of people that have only been in s few episodes to do the job.

This exact question was somewhat answered in a Green Lantern special a few years back that saw The Guardians taking action against Apokolips way in the past by sending in several members of the Corp. Darksied used his knowledge of the Lanterns weakness to yellow to even the odds but he was still almost defeated and made a deal with the Guardians and they agreed not to interfere with Darkseids affairs ( I cant remeber why) and they left. Lots of Lanterns where killed and one was even left behind on Apokolips

Happened in the comics, not the cartoons. This is a cartoon discussion board, so this argument can't be used. I wish it could, since I love GL so much, but it's just not pertinent to talking about the cartoons like STAS and JL.

[DerekPowers]

Originally posted by Alph
Darkside can beat um all.He was the most powerful force in the universe.

actually superman can beat darkseid, and since we all know batman can beat superman (he has done many times in the comics, and the animated series definately made it seem as though he could, especially since bats always seemed to have kryptonite lying around), then

that makes BATMAN the most powerful force in the universe.

[Karkull]

Technically speaking, isn't Darkseid from another dimension? He's probably out of the Corps' jurisdiction.

[The Detective]

Look, I know that Darksied is powerful and all, but if Superman can beat him the GL Corps can. They are 3600 strong wielding one of the most powerful weapons in the universe, I think that equeals up to one Superman. And if we're just using cartoon cotinuity here, it hasn't been said that they have a weakness to yellow.

[Jade_GL]

In fact, when Kyle fought Sinestro in the episode of STAS, there was no problems with Kyle fighting Sinestro and his yellow constructs...

[Alph]

Nope.No weakness to yellow in the animated continuity.


But Sinstro never actually HURT superman,sure,he pinned him a rock,and knocked him when he was off guard,but Superman was able to break all of Sinestro's constructs.Actually,all sinstro did to superman was get him out of the way long enough so that the story could focus more on the battle with GL.If GL hadn't been in the episode,superman would have defeated Sinestro.Also,you have to give superman the fact that he wasn't expecting a fight.It was like :

superman: your friends injured.


Sinestro: he's no friend of mine...where's the ring!?


Superman:I don't know what your talking abou---ugh!!!*gets blasted in the gut*



Anyway,the GL barriers can be broken.In metomorphosis,the big blob monster fired a blast that broke GLs sheild easily.I'm sure Darksied's beams are far stronger than that blob monsters are.He could brake the barrier.


Oh yeah,and about this:

Quote-"actually superman can beat darkseid, and since we all know batman can beat superman (he has done many times in the comics, and the animated series definately made it seem as though he could, especially since bats always seemed to have kryptonite lying around), then

that makes BATMAN the most powerful force in the universe."



I think your joking,but I hope you realise that if supes actually wanted to beat batman,he wouldn't have lived long enough to pull the Kryptonite from his pocket(not that he actually keeps it in his pocket,exept that once).Also,Darksied has no weaknesses.On someone physically stronger than him can beat him,and the only person to accomplish that feat is Superman.





Oh yeah,also,we have no idea how many GLs are in the animated continuity.All we've seen is maybe 10 or so,from both IBD and IBN.

[Nyssane]

I doubt they could beat Darkseid. Especially since he WOULD call on Kanto, Virmin Vundabar, Desaad, Granny Goodness, the Female Furies, etc. to finish them off first, so he wouldn't have to sully his hands on them.

[Condiment King]

I agree that if this were the comics, no doubt about it. After a long fight, all 3600 Green Lantern Corps members could take out Darkseid and his minions.....eventually.

Unfortunately, this is the animated contiunity and as I always say, the UNBELIEVABLY messed up Green Lantern contiunity.

Unfortunately, it has never been mentioned that there were 3600 Green Lantern Corps members. A mere ten or so have been shown in S:TAS and JL.

Also, the Green Lantern Corps members have been mistakenly protrayed as rather weak. As seen in "In Blackest Night" Part 2 with Hawkgirl taking them all out, save Kilowog who didn't put up a fight without their ring. A complete mismatch.


On the other hand, this works to their advantage as the yellow impurity has been completely forgotten as seen in S:TAS "In Brightest Day".

Making a long story short, the GLs would put up a fight in animated contiuity but I just don't see them beating Darkseid.

[Reed Richards]

couldnt DARKSEID, simply change the color of his OMEGA EFFECT beam? he IS the master of the omega effect after all

if it were yellow it could kill every GL instantly

[The Detective]

For the last time the animated Green Lanterns have no yellow weakness!!!

[Jade_GL]

There are no weaknesses shown in the cartoon universe.

The only thing we've seen is the ring losing power when it is not charged regularly.

So it wouldn't matter. That's purely a comic book thing and not applicable to the argument until the cartoon chooses to make something like that into a cartoon. Until then, it doesn't matter if the Omega Beams are made of swiss cheese or chocolate rainbows.

[The Detective]

Originally posted by Condiment King
Unfortunately, it has never been mentioned that there were 3600 Green Lantern Corps members. A mere ten or so have been shown in S:TAS and JL.

But in STAS "In Brightest Day" the guardians refered to sector 2814, se we can assume that there at least 2814 Green Lanterns. And what logical reason would they have to make the Green Lantern Corp have ten or so members?

[Knight]

Originally posted by The DarkKnight
But in STAS "In Brightest Day" the guardians refered to sector 2814, se we can assume that there at least 2814 Green Lanterns. And what logical reason would they have to make the Green Lantern Corp have ten or so members?

You're right on the money. There is one GL per sector .But some people wont beleive there are 3600 GLs until they see them all sadly.

And Darkseid would lose to the Corp, there is no way he could beat them all. It would be like saying Superman could defeat the entire Corp. Its not going to happen. Im not saying Darkseid couldnt kill alot of them but he couldnt kill them all.

[The Detective]

Yep. Darkseid would simply be outnumbered. There is no way he could defeat 3600 GL. Just imagine if every GL willed a laser beam at him? Or if they all put up a shield to block the omega beams? Sure a lot of them would be killed and it would be a bloody mess, but he would simply be outnumbered.

[Condiment King]

You are so right! I cannot believe that I missed the 3600 Green Lanterns reference. It really has been a while since I have seen "In Brightest Day".

Also, if you check out JUSTICE LEAGUE ADVENTURES #13, you'll see about 40 some odd GLs sprawled over a splash page.

This is my worry about the whole 'how many GLs are there?' question in JUSTICE LEAGUE:

Spoiler:

In JL Adventures #13, John Stewart says that "All the Green Lanterns in the universe have been called back to our main base planet, Oa." Later, it is revealed that Brainiac has manipulated them to attack the Justice League but my beef is that when 'all the Green Lanterns in the universe' come back, there is only about 40 GLs shown. This is very decieving to the JUSTICE LEAGUE fan/non GL fan.