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    Discuss this classic Batman: The Animated Series episode!


    Episode #028 - Dreams In Darkness
    Original Airdate - November 3rd, 1992.

    When Batman attempts to thwart the Scarecrow's plan to poison Gotham's water supply with a chemical that induces non-stop nightmares and hallucinations, the Dark Knight is infected with the concoction. Unable to tell reality from fantasy, he is committed to Arkham Asylum. He must find a way to escape and stop the Scarecrow from plunging the people of Gotham into a nightmare without end.

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    I remember this being a good episode, and I'm looking forward to seeing it again. CN is airing it tonight at 2:30am (ET).
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    ****1/2

    "The great Batman, scared out of his mind! How does it feel?" - The Scarecrow, Dreams In Darkness

    This is an excellent episode. It really gave us something different you don't see from the "typical" BTAS episode.

    Batman telling the story himself was an interesting aspect to the episode. On the surface he may have been going insane, but inside he was still in control.

    The part when Batman is below Arkham and encounters the 'villains' plus Alfred and Robin is a very interesting part of his gas induced paranoia. Each one becomes more and more bizarre as his fear deepens and expands. A rat becomes The Joker, who stands there laughing at the Dark Knight. Then The Penguin forms out of the ground and grows till his umbrella reaches the top of the cavern. Penguin lets out a scream and out pops Two-Face, Bruce's former friend Harvey Dent. Batman's mind has obviously gotten further away from him at this point, because of the demented version of the Two-Face theme heard in the background. His terrible visions conclude with the vines of Poison Ivy and the two men he trusts and cares about above all—Alfred and Robin telling him he is doomed. The end to the visions show how Bats is trapped in Scarecrow's twisted world of fear.

    Much like Robin did in Fear of Victory, Batman is able to overcome his fears when he pulls the snake/cord out of the wall. The fact that when he does the pulling it is no longer a snake and has returned to a cable shows he has won out over fear.

    The Scarecrow cowering in fear of his own fear gas was a fitting end to the villain's scheme. No one is without fear.
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    WOW. How could I forget this episode. This has to be one of the best episodes of BTAS. While watching the reruns lately, most episodes haven't been able to stand to the test of time. But this one is still as good as I remember it being. GREAT!
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    4 stars

    There is no such thing as a bad Batman episode as far as I'm concerned.

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    I saw this episode last night and all I can say is "Wow", I'm not really a big fan of the cartoons, just watch them when I have a chance or stuff. But this was a very cool, very dark episode.

    I give it 5 of these things *****.

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    5 stars! This episode was just as good as I remembered. I thought Batman's hallucination scenes were very well done. One of my favorite parts was when he overcame his fear in the end, and broke the snake/wire. Great episode!


    BTW, I always preferred this Scarecrow's look over the TNBA one. I think he looked more like a scarecrow.
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    Does it stand the test of time? In other words, was it still as good an episode as when I first saw it back in '92? Mostly. The hallucination scenes were animated bits of glory. Maxie Zues, in his Episode Guide "Batman: Animated" had some harsh things to say about the episode. Such as Batman's line "word on the street was that something was going down" was a bit too cliche'. In retrospect, listening to Kevin Conroy speak throughout the flashback scene was a bit....corny? And another point has been made that Scarecrow's motivation was never properly developed. Tend to agree with that. First episode he's in, he wants revenge, ala Mr. Freeze. Second episode he's in, he wants money. Here, he wants to conduct a mass experiment. Still, I like this design and voice for the Scarecrow compared to TNBA voice.

    I like how they show us the meek little man under the mask in the original series. We never saw his face again in TNBA. Most people say he looks more menacing without taking off the mask, but that misses the point. We're supposed to be reminded that underneath this fearful form lies just a meek little worn, who was bullyed to much as a child.

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    "Some though I'd gone mad, others thought I always had been. So they put me, where they thought I belonged." - Batman, Dreams In Darkness


    Well it took me long enough, but I finally found time to 'talkback' on this episode. Look to post number 2.
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    I'm not sure how I could forget this episode, but it was very good. I liked the idea of the Scarecrow conducting a mass experiment, but would he really have put a giant clock up to tell him when it would be released? A bit cliched, but still a good ep. My only main problem is regarding the hallucinations Batman had. I really liked how they played out, and the animation was great. But in the first episode with the Scarecrow, "Nothing to Fear," I got the idea that Batman's only true fear was being a failure to his parents, as well as the death of his parents. Suddenly, he's hallucinating about his rogues gallery of villains, which just seemed out of character. I never thought Batman was actually afraid of them...But aside from that, I thought it was a really good episode. 4 stars!

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    Maxie Zues may have had harsh words for this episode, but I enjoyed it. Batman in Arkham in a straight-jacket, battling the effects of Scarecrow's fear gas and an ignorant "head up my butt" doctor at the same time (no wonder Joker keeps escaping from that place) in order to save the city from being locked in a prison of fear-induced illusions forever, was a great concept.

    Scarecrow's motivation was that he wanted to study the nature of fear (he even said so during this episode), and was willing to make everyone in Gotham suffer the effects of his gas to do so, so I can't see how his motivations were not defined. I once again disagree with Maxie on this.

    The fear visions that Batman was suffering were well done as well, and who says he doesn't have some sort of fear as it relates to his rogues gallery? Just because he doesn't really show it on the outside doesn't mean it isn't there. I find it hard to believe that someone who deals with The Joker constantly wouldn't have some sort of fear of the guy.

    This episode was well done.

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    I dont quite remember this episode that well. What was the excuse for not removing Batman's mask?

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    I think they thought removing his mask could be damaging to him psycologically.
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    Originally posted by JusticeLeagueLegion
    I think they thought removing his mask could be damaging to him psycologically.
    That's what I thought it was. I have always disliked that about that episode, its just a weak argument. Other then that cool episode.

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    Well he had to keep his identity somehow right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderfly

    I like how they show us the meek little man under the mask in the original series. We never saw his face again in TNBA. Most people say he looks more menacing without taking off the mask, but that misses the point. We're supposed to be reminded that underneath this fearful form lies just a meek little worn, who was bullyed to much as a child.
    That's always been my take on the Scarecrow. That the things that scare us might not be much of anything at all. Loved the dream seqences.


    One question-I think I caught a sly reference to Jason Todd's death in this story: When they are wheeling in Batman he's going,"Robin, don't do it, it's a trap." Then he goes,"Watch out Joker's got a bomb!"

    Was that a reference or am I reading to much into it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrieattheprom
    That's always been my take on the Scarecrow. That the things that scare us might not be much of anything at all. Loved the dream seqences.


    One question-I think I caught a sly reference to Jason Todd's death in this story: When they are wheeling in Batman he's going,"Robin, don't do it, it's a trap." Then he goes,"Watch out Joker's got a bomb!"

    Was that a reference or am I reading to much into it?
    Wow. That makes a lot of sense. I don't know if it was intentional, but it certainly fits. That's really cool. I'll have to go watch the episode later.

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    A very good Scarecrow episode but nothing beats Fear of Victory and Never Fear. Dreams In Darkness has done what I've always wanted to see, Batman in Arkham. Affected by Scarecrow's gas Batman is housed in Arkham with the doctors thinking he's insane. The hallucinations are brilliantly done with Batman literally crawling on the floor like a puppy terrified. This is the episodes greatest strength and weakness because the hallucinations are so beautifully animated but having Batman scared out of his mind just doesn't seem right because he's supposed to strike terror into his enemies even if he's up against the master of fear the Scarecrow.

    The plot, action, animation are all really good in this episode and seeing Batman in Arkham was a real treat for me. 4stars. If this episode had usen the effect of Scarecrow's gas as it did in Nothing To Fear this episode would be 5 stars but like I said having a Batman scared out of his mind just doesn't seem right
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    Meh. I liked the Scarecrow MUCH better in TNBA. His along with Penguin's were the only markedly improved redesigns. And Jeffrey Combs (The Question) is da man! A truly frightening character. I'm with b.t.-- I like to think he's a ghost now and I never want see his face again.

    The only thing I can really say about this episode was that I saw it a couple of months ago on the BTAS DVD set and I barely remember the plot. It just didn't make too much of an impression on me. It was good, don't get me wrong but Never Fear was much better. ***1/2.
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    "Dreams In Darkness" airs tonight

    "The great Batman, scared out of his mind! How does it feel?"

    Tonight at 12 midnight ET, Boomerang airs the Batman: The Animated Series episode, Dreams In Darkness. If you do not have Boomerang, you are encouraged to follow along on disc 4 of your Batman: The Animated Series, Vol. 1 DVD set (this is the final episode on the set).


    Episode #028 - Dreams In Darkness
    Original Airdate - November 3rd, 1992.

    When Batman attempts to thwart the Scarecrow's plan to poison Gotham's water supply with a chemical that induces non-stop nightmares and hallucinations, the Dark Knight is infected with the concoction. Unable to tell reality from fantasy, he is committed to Arkham Asylum. He must find a way to escape and stop the Scarecrow from plunging the people of Gotham into a nightmare without end.

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