New JL commercial! Help me identify the scenes!

**Brian Cruz** · 05-01-2002, 01:53 PM

A new JL commercial debuted last week that showed a bunch of clips from various episodes as seen throguh the Watchtower monitors. Some of the clips were from unaired episodes like "Injustice For All". I want to take some screen shots for the news page, but I'm not certain which clips are brand new and which are from episodes that have already aired.

So I'm asking you guys to please download the commercial and tell me what parts are new, what unaired episode you think it may be from. I'll mention everyone who helps on the news page. Here's the commercial (right-click and save to your hard drive):

**DisneyBoy** · 05-01-2002, 02:05 PM

I can't get the blasted thing to play!

Well, it's not like I could helpout anyways...I haven't seen all the episodes!

**Joe Wagner** · 05-01-2002, 02:54 PM

It looks like there are a lot of clips from Secret Origins, Paradise Lost, War World, Brave and the Bold and In Blackest Night in the commercial. Considering that only Metamorphisis, The Savage Time, Injustice For All and A Knight of Shadows are the only ones left to air a lot of the clips seem to have come from previously aired episodes.

The clip starts with Lex Luthor targeting Superman, it has to be a direct clip from "Injustice For All". A couple more clips go by and then there is a clip of a woman throwing her arm out and hitting Batman square in the face. My guess is the woman is Morgan Le Faye and is from the arc "A Knight of Shadows". Slightly before that there is like 4-6 screens on that are shown - the grey creature near the bottom looks like Metamorpho - given the grey skin. The screen directly below that one looks to be from "The Savage Time" as it clearly looks like one of the Blackhawks fighter planes.

Right after the scene with Morgan Le Faye it flashes past a 4 screen of Superman looking beaten. Best guess - "Injustice For All" as the purple suit looks like either the Joker's or Luthor's. Further down there is yet another scene with Cheetah and Batman - once again "Injustice For All" (what is it with Batman and women who looks like cats though - first Catwoman now Cheetah). A couple seconds from that is a scene with Batman and Martain Manhunter standing next to each other - probably "A Knight of Shadows". Right before Superman hits the giant croc from "War World" there is a small scene of Solomon Grundy running - "Injustice For All". After that it looked like the rest of the clips are from previously aired episodes or "Injustice For All".

-Joe!

**Brian Cruz** · 05-01-2002, 03:28 PM

Thanks! You noticed a few that I missed.

Okay, I've taken 21 screen shots from the commercial. My goal is to have a least one scene in each shot from an unaired episode. I'm sure I messed up and thought an old scene was a new scene, so if you guys could elimate the pics that have nothing new in them, I'd appreciare it. And if you cna guess what episodes the new scenes are from, I'd appreciate it. The 21 pics are here:

http://www.toonzone.net/justiceleague/images/montage/

Here are the ones I'm most unsure of:

#7 & 8: Is the scene in the upper-right in either of these new?

#14: Might be old but I didn't recognize it

#15: I think that's a Vandal Savage/Superman hybrid in the lower right. Or is that old? I don'r recall that scene of Diana in the middle either (she's electrified a few frames later, but by then her screen is over the Savage one).

#17 & 18: Is the stuff with J'onn and the green water new?

#20: Not sure about this one

Thanks for your help!

**Samhaine** · 05-01-2002, 03:35 PM

#15 - that's Hades' true form.

#17 & 18 - those are scenes from Warwold. The pit is where they throw the fighters who loose, and feed them to a big water monster.

#20 - looks like Draaga.

And I'm not sure about #7, 8, or 14.

**SimonMoon5** · 05-01-2002, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Brian Cruz
Thanks! You noticed a few that I missed.

#7 & 8: Is the scene in the upper-right in either of these new?
#17 & 18: Is the stuff with J'onn and the green water new?
#20: Not sure about this one

Thanks for your help!

For #7, isn't that one of the guys in the van from B&B?
#17 and 18 are from Warworld.

**Ed Liu** · 05-01-2002, 03:41 PM

Howdy,

Originally posted by Brian Cruz
#7 & 8: Is the scene in the upper-right in either of these new?

#7's shot is from "The Brave and the Bold, Pt. 1." I think that's one of the doctors in the van that Flash (eventually) stops. I recognized the gun.

#8 looks vaguely like it belongs in "War World," but I have no recollection of the alien shown.

#14: Might be old but I didn't recognize it

If it's an old shot, it's probably from "War World Pt. 1" during GL & Hawkgirl's interrogation scene. Considering the amount of older footage throughout, this seems the most likely, although I don't remember seeing that alien specifically.

#20: Not sure about this one

I'm pretty sure that's Draaga from "War World Pt. 2," either when he reveals himself to GL & Hawkgirl, or in the final fight.

Other than these, I concur with bloodone's picks.

-- Ed/Ace

**Brian Cruz** · 05-01-2002, 04:13 PM

Thanks guys. I'll eliminate #7, #17, 18, and 20. And #15 is definitely Hades? Darn. I've replaced #15 with Diana being electrified, is that scene new or old?

In the news post, I want to include guesses as to where the new scenes are from. Here's the list I came up with (plus jjwspider's guesses). Feel free to correct me wherever necessary.

http://www.toonzone.net/justiceleague/images/montage/

1: Lex Luthor with Ultra-Humanite behind him, "Injustice For All"

2: The Shade and Cheetah, "Injustice For All"

3: Person in upper-left: ?????
Gray monster in lower screen: Metamorpho from "Metamorphosis" (jjwspider)

4: Superman and Solomon Grundy, "Injustice For All"

5: Morgan LeFaye from "A Knight of Shadows" (jjwspider)

6: Cheetah scratching Batman, "Injustice For All"

8: Lex Luthor, "Injustice For All", alien guy: ???????

9: Cheetah and Batman, "Injustice For All"

10: J'onn and Batman, "A Knight of Shadows" (jjwspider)

11: Cheetah kissing Batman, "Injustice For All"

12: Solomon Grundy running, "Injustice For All"

13: Joker tied up, "Injustice For All"

14: Green Lantern and alien: ???????

15: Diana electrified: ??????

16: Cheetah on rope, "Injustice For All" (are the rest old?)

19: Shade, Cheetah, Star Sapphire, "Injustice For All".
Superman and Ultra-Humanite, "Injustice For All"
(the rest are old?)

21: Shade, with Superman fighting ???? in backgrund, "Injustice For All".

**Palin Dromos** · 05-01-2002, 04:37 PM

lets' see what else...

3. the grey monster is the altered Superman from Paradise Lost

14. Looks Like War World

15. Looks like Paradise Lost

16. The Flash pic is from Paradise Lost, The WW pic looks like Fury, or Enemy Below. Not sure about GL

19. WW is from Paradise Lost, and I think the Flash GL is from Secret Origins (not sure)

Hope that helps

**Joe Wagner** · 05-01-2002, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Palin Dromos
lets' see what else...

3. the grey monster is the altered Superman from Paradise Lost

Now that I have a closer look at it I'm inclined to agree - that does look like Superman from the fight scene with Diana in "Paradise Lost".

I don't suppose the person in #8 with Lex Luthor could be Vandal Savage in a flashback to say Gangis Khan seeing as how Savage is virtually every human dictator through out history.

-Joe!

**Brian Cruz** · 05-01-2002, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by jjwspider

Now that I have a closer look at it I'm inclined to agree - that does look like Superman from the fight scene with Diana in "Paradise Lost".

-Joe!

Where was the scene of the Blackhawks fighter planes? I couldn't spot it.

**Alpha Flight** · 05-01-2002, 05:31 PM

Hey Brian;
If its not too much trouble can you put that commerical in Quick Time or Windows Media Player format. Some of us don't have Real Player!
Thankx

**Joe Wagner** · 05-01-2002, 05:34 PM

The scene where Diana is at one pic #3 - I thought it changed into another scene but now that I can see it I can tell that it probably isn't a plane. Sorry - I was watching it on a fairly small screen and pausing and going to try and label them. The larger pics sure make this a lot easier.

-Joe!

**Brian Cruz** · 05-01-2002, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by giftrapper
Hey Brian;
If its not too much trouble can you put that commerical in Quick Time or Windows Media Player format. Some of us don't have Real Player!
Thankx

Unfortunately I don't have the ability to make Quicktime or Windows Media files. The Quicktime files I've posted in the past were made by TylerL of the Toonami board. I'll tell him about the commercial and see if he can catch it and make a file.

**Joe Wagner** · 05-01-2002, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by giftrapper
Hey Brian;
If its not too much trouble can you put that commerical in Quick Time or Windows Media Player format. Some of us don't have Real Player!
Thankx

The avi file should be playable on Quicktime or Windows Media Player. If not it should let you download the proper codec for which ever player you choose to use.

-Joe!

**DisneyBoy** · 05-01-2002, 05:37 PM

Sorry to intrude, but thanks to those great pictures, I think can I contribute:

Picture #10 shows MM and Batman crouching as he holds a batarang with a red dot on it. Isn't that from Secret Origins, during the first attack with the white aliens just after they've freed MM? The background and poses look too familiar to be from "Knight of Shadows"...

**Bud 'n Lou** · 05-01-2002, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by jjwspider
A couple more clips go by and then there is a clip of a woman throwing her arm out and hitting Batman square in the face. My guess is the woman is Morgan Le Faye and is from the arc "A Knight of Shadows".

Actually, I think that woman is Cheetah in disguise. Watch it again and look close at her face. My guess is she was pulling the old damsel in distress routine to get Batman's attention, and then attacked. So that would make the scene from "Injustice For All."

**Brian Cruz** · 05-01-2002, 05:40 PM

If you need the DivX coodec, you can get it here:

http://www.toonzone.net/justiceleague/media/

The file is called DivX412Codec.exe

**Brian Cruz** · 05-01-2002, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by DisneyBoy
Sorry to intrude, but thanks to those great pictures, I think can I contribute:

Picture #10 shows MM and Batman crouching as he holds a batarang with a red dot on it. Isn't that from Secret Origins, during the first attack with the white aliens just after they've freed MM? The background and poses look too familiar to be from "Knight of Shadows"...

You're right, I checked the DVD and it is from Secret Origins. That's another one I can toss out. I seems most if not all of the the new scenes are from "Injustice For All"

**Bob...SpongeBob** · 05-01-2002, 06:50 PM

I think #14 is from War World ptI, when GL is interrogating the alien to find out where War World is, and #15 is from Fury pII, when Diana is trying to lift up the falling helicopter, and the electric wires nail her in the back. # 3 looks like Morgan LeFaye's face. #21 looks like Superman vs Ultra Humanite. I hope this helps

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