I still can't understand why WHV won't just put out a project that features Batman or Superman in supporting roles (Batgirl Year One) or produce double features that have a 40-minute Batman/Superman film and a 40-minute film starring another character. Is their belief that the presence of another character negates the sales potential of Batman and Superman? I don't see how it's possible that a DVD that has Batman/Batgirl as the title as opposed to Batman would push sales in a negative direction. Perhaps they are not even thinking in these terms, but the shorts program and the anthology projects suggest that they have looked at other means of bringing a variety of characters to the screen.
I could be wrong, but I think adoptedBatpuppy may have been refering to the Comicvine.com news story that the OP had linked in the first post. Because while that article does link to the original Timm interview, the recounting of the content of that interview most definitely has a negative slant:
Originally Posted by Ed Liu
Really just using the word "canceled" both in the article's title and four more times after that has an obviously negative connotation. In the original interview, Timm didn't use the word at all. Geez… and I thought all those direct-to-video DC animated movies were doing great. Bruce Timm recently told ThinkMcFlyThink.com
that a number of such projects have been canceled due to the under-performance of GREEN LANTERN: FIRST FLIGHT
and the WONDER WOMAN
movie. The latter’s performance was so underwhelming
, in fact....blah, blah, blah.
Im so tired of Superman and Batman movies, I was excitied that we would have other DC heroes explored but cant say that I am surprised that a lot of them have been cancelled. Its only theWBs fault since all they ever focus on is S/B. But WW and GL didnt do bad.
Originally Posted by Toddman
for the record, there IS a bit of paraphrasing, mis-quoting and out-of-contexting going on here -- for example, keep in mind that the "exclusive interview" that started this whole brouhaha is in fact NO SUCH THING, but instead an edited transcript of a panel at last week's Calgary Comics Expo, me responding to questions from a whole GROUP of people in the audience, not a "one-on-one" interview with a single reporter
while the facts as reported are basically true (no aquaman, judas contract or wonder woman sequel movies coming anytime soon, etc) the "glass-half-empty" spin is something the reporter himself brought to the table, and has been exaggerated and exacerbated upon subsequent re-tellings, including the alarmist title of this very thread -- i mean, come on: "mass cancellation" sounds like one of those monday morning massacre situations, as if an angry knee-jerking exec called up one day yelling "shut down everything that doesn't have batman in it!" -- whereas actually each of these projects came and went months and sometimes YEARS apart from each other
Originally Posted by b.t.
I just hope you got my little tip about how Hit-Girl's instant popularity might be something to think about in relation to whether or or not a Batgirl movie could be done.
Though i don't think anyone wants to see a killer Batgirl using the 'C' word, wich is one of the reasons why Hit-Girl is the star of the Kick-Ass film, but i will never stop believing that, with some really good writing, a movie about how Barbara Gordon becomes Batgirl could really work.
I imagined a "Batgirl Begins" from the moment i saw Jim Gordon's daughter in Nolan's TDK, and when you twist and turn a bit around what you guys have done in BTAS, wich is to make the rise of Batgirl more directly related to the fact that she's a Gordon.
I would settle for a Batgirl: Year One based on the book though... If they would keep the look and style of the book, because next to BTAS and TNBA, Year One is the cutest incarnation of Barbara Gordon i have ever seen.
One of the reasons i loved your incarnation of the Batgirl character was because she was NOT the stereotype 'big breasts, tall and muscular' type female heroine like WonderWoman, but a more down-to-earth girl with a cute face, petite form, and a friendly charm. A real heroine, and not some walking man-dream in a bathingsuit.
I know i'm probably slightly naive about this from a buisness point of view, but i just don't see the harm in doing a Batgirl movie knowing that it's probably gonna be a small succes.
I also can't imagine that, with the hype around the Nolan films and the waiting period for the next chapter in his Bat-series, an animated Batgirl feature would not sell better then the WonderWoman film.
A film that focusses on Batgirl, but does have Batman as a mentor really is something to consider...
...specially when you have Nicholas Cage doing the voice of Batman, and Chloe Moretz as Batgirl, and have the Bat-signal be in the shape of a giant... bat.
Not necessarily. If they did a Gotham City Sirens movie (Catwoman, Harley and Ivy teaming up, with the Riddler playing a support role) that would be a hit.
Originally Posted by Martianinvader
WB needs to understand that this nation is in a depression right now. Breaking even with a little profit is a good thing is this economic environment.
What's to think about? Kick Ass isn't exactly doing gangbusters in fact it's fallen pretty quickly. If anything that just solidifies WB's stance when it comes to what they want made or not.
Originally Posted by Naninou
I would like to thank Mr Timm for coming in and correcting the record on the issue of the interview and it's presentation. I'll make sure to repost his correction in other places I've talked about this issue.
They should just call the Batgirl DTV "Batman: The Rise of Batgirl"... marketing problem solved.
This thread seriously needs to be renamed. Its just a simple fact that there are projects that partly go into the development process and wb decides to not go through with them. Mass cancellation is a bit too harsh of terms.
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