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    Does anyone wish TNBA got 52 episodes?

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    I can't help but feel that TNBA ended before it reached its full potential. Nightwing didn't get to appear that much, Tim Drake deserved a lot more screentime, and there were still plenty of Batman stories left to tell.

    A lot of the villains (aside from Joker, mainly), also only got one or two episodes during its entire run.

    Does anyone else feel TNBA was cut down in its prime?

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    I know I wished the TNBA would have gone on for a few seasons longer
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    I would have loved more episodes, if only to hear Nightwing's theme used a few more times...after catching up on the Shirley Walker thread last night, I popped in the Volume 2 Disc 2 dvd and watched Over the Edge to get to the boat chase....whoever said it on the commentary track is right, it always struck me as "Russian" sounding.. I love it. Also, I wish they'd used Tim Drake's second theme a little more (the one used in Return of the Joker in his first scene, as he's on patrol and about to descend into the alley).

    I know he was impossible to write for, but one last riddler episode would have been great...maybe something to explain why in heaven's name he would change his costume to that.

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    I would have wished that there would be a storyline involved if there were 52 episodes.Knightfall would be a good one.I wish black mask was also involved in TNBA.

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    Yea I would've liked to have seen more episodes. Out of all the DCAU dvd's it was one that I enjoyed alot more than I thought I would.

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    Yes. I really would have liked to have seen more Nightwing. I may not have liked the redesigns but I did like the stories.
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    It seems animators never get it right, people always want more of this character or that charcter, but there will probably be more episodes, plus ive contradicted myself here, animators do get it right because the fans always want more, meaning they love it.
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    TNBA is my favorite season from BTAS. Love it love love it. Wish it would had lasted longer? Heck yes!!
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    Yes, it needed more episodes in that style.
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    Looked upon as a seperate show from BTAS, it was definitely ended before it's time. Cavalier, Blask Mask, lots more villains to play with. And we needed more Tim Drake and Nightwing.

    Still, it's impressive that even with a handful of episodes it became the model for the current Timm-verse Batman. I think the comic really helped flesh out the world it created, along with the flashback scene in ROTJ and the Batwoman movie.

    It's definitely a show I enjoy more now than I did in its original run.
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    I hated what they did with "Girls Night Out". . . creating clumsy gimmicks, so they could say the girls had really needed the men (Batman and Superman).

    To me, if Supergirl can beat up "The Female Furies" in Little Girl Lost, then howcome it takes so long for her to beat up Poison Ivy, Livewire, or even Harley Quinn, with Batgirl's help of course, which is very creative, and scientific. I just don't get it.

    Livewire's powerful, I know, but she must have gotten in some good shots, somehow, in their entire combat and/or fight, so they could paint her as a true, natural, realistic (don't mind the denotative essence of the word), superheroine, from Argo (which is somewhat like Superman's krypton), instead of leaving the episode to call them amateurs, or basically "rookies."

    I don't know, just my take. Seemed like an ambush. =\

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick85 View Post
    I hated what they did with "Girls Night Out". . . creating clumsy gimmicks, so they could say the girls had really needed the men (Batman and Superman).

    To me, if Supergirl can beat up "The Female Furies" in Little Girl Lost, then howcome it takes so long for her to beat up Poison Ivy, Livewire, or even Harley Quinn, with Batgirl's help of course, which is very creative, and scientific. I just don't get it.

    Livewire's powerful, I know, but she must have gotten in some good shots, somehow, in their entire combat and/or fight, so they could paint her as a true, natural, realistic (don't mind the denotative essence of the word), superheroine, from Argo (which is somewhat like Superman's krypton), instead of leaving the episode to call them amateurs, or basically "rookies."

    I don't know, just my take. Seemed like an ambush. =\
    That's part of the reason Little Girl Lost part 2 sucked so much. I didn't but that Supergirl could hol her own while Superman was taken out in mere seconds by the FF. That's the prime example of introducing a character at the expense of the main character. So I liked it better that when she'd faced with a similar situation she needs help.

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    As much as I disliked the majority of TNBA episodes, I still wish there were more because there was clearly potential there. When the episodes were bad, they were really bad. But when they were good, they were really good, so it would have been nice to see more than the 24 we did get.

    Wasn't TNBA cut short because WB decided they wanted to concentrate on Batman Beyond? I thought I remembered reading that once before somewhere. (Just another reason for me to dislike BB. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderwall View Post
    That's part of the reason Little Girl Lost part 2 sucked so much. I didn't but that Supergirl could hol her own while Superman was taken out in mere seconds by the FF. That's the prime example of introducing a character at the expense of the main character. So I liked it better that when she'd faced with a similar situation she needs help.
    Actually, I have no doubt in my mind Kara couldn't hold her own against any supervillains, including the female furies, but what my actual problem is, she couldn't hold her own against mere, human, villains, like Poison Ivy, and Harley Quinn. She has heat vision, and can freeze things (or people), anything, with her power of cold air. She should have been a match for Livewire. (Also Superman wasn't a match for Livewire too, so I don't think it was much of a power-load, or power substraction from the creator's part, on Superman as well.)

    I have no troubles believing that Kara could fight a supervillain, on her own, without Superman. It's the Batman animated series episode, girls night out, I've got a problem with.

    Otherwise, little girl lost 2, was actually very believable.
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    Wasn't TNBA cut short because WB decided they wanted to concentrate on Batman Beyond? I thought I remembered reading that once before somewhere. (Just another reason for me to dislike BB.
    Yeah, TNBA was cancelled because Jamie Keller (sp?) wanted a show with a teenage Batman so kids could relate to him more.

    I love how in the commentary Bruce Timm and co. were horrified by the idea at first and wanted to quit altogether (lol!), but then salvaged the concept by coming up with the idea for Batman Beyond.

    Batman Beyond was great, but I still think TNBA should have gotten at LEAST 52 episodes before it ended.

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    TNBA is my fav season! I love almost every epidose. Nightwing was an incredible adition to the show, I Wish you they would have told more histories with him. I thought that Starfire and other teen titans were going to show up, since flash was on superman. We never had the chance to see the new manbat design. An other episode with Clarion would had been great!
    The Show was much darker, the Killing Joke or Arkaham Asylum adaptatations would have been great too. Batman Beyond was a great show but something is missing between TNBA Superman and JL.

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    The one reason I would choose not to have more TNBA's is because Batman had already gotten so much attention throughout BTAS. (I'm not one of those "Don't give Batman the spotlight" guys, though.) I totally prefer TNBA, however, so I'd be more likely in retrospect to trade some BTAS eps for TNBA. And if more TNBA's were produced, I'd take them in a heartbeat. Mainly for Nightwing, yes.

    I'm strange. I love the way Batman is portrayed in JLU, always the brains and the badboy. But Superman is the one I want to see front-and-center. Go figure. I guess I like to see Superman lead the charge, and Batman watching their backs. Or something like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperBat View Post
    The one reason I would choose not to have more TNBA's is because Batman had already gotten so much attention throughout BTAS. (I'm not one of those "Don't give Batman the spotlight" guys, though.) I totally prefer TNBA, however, so I'd be more likely in retrospect to trade some BTAS eps for TNBA. And if more TNBA's were produced, I'd take them in a heartbeat. Mainly for Nightwing, yes.

    I'm strange. I love the way Batman is portrayed in JLU, always the brains and the badboy. But Superman is the one I want to see front-and-center. Go figure. I guess I like to see Superman lead the charge, and Batman watching their backs. Or something like that...
    Batman was lighter in the BTAS, nearly as goody-two-shoes as Superman, but not as much. Nearly not as much, but yeah, the TNBA series was the better in comparison to the both of them. It followed the Justice League Series beautifully in the following years.

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    It's sort of a shame that all the things that were alluded to never got fleshed out in TNBA. Mostly the Batman/Batgirl romance (seen in Mystery of the Batwoman) and Nightwing leaving (mentioned in Batman Beyond). Robin's last adventure was seen in Return of the Joker.

    I guess those things would've seriously changed the status quo of the show,
    but to me it makes TNBA look like it didn't get enough episodes to tell everything it wanted to tell.
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    Oh of course I'd want more episodes. Hell I want these things to go on forever, even the shows I dislike. But what the 24 of TNBA that did air could've done was delete lame filler episodes like "Love is Croc", "Girl's Night Out", "The Ultimate Thrill" and of course "Critters" and replace them with perhaps a DCU guest spot or two like Green Arrow, Black Canary, Huntress, Birds of Prey, Hawkman, The Question, etc. Or at least another Bane and Riddlercentric episode. OR maybe delve into Bruce's martial arts background deeper (which I felt was neglected in the entire series) and have a storyline with Richard Dragon and Lady Shiva.

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