Villains from the 60s TV series that would have worked in the DCAU.

[Cortez2301]

In the DCAU, we have seen a few villains from the 60s series turn into very dark and serious characters.False Face (BB),the clock king (B:TAS,JLU) and MR freeze (even though he is one of the main in villains in the batman universe,we all know he was a loser before b:TAS).I also believe that the old woman in "Eggbaby" I heard about is like the old woman with her 3 sons in the adam west series.I forgot her name but I just heard they were supposed to be the same characters (correct me if I'm wrong).Which villains from that series do yo think would have worked here? I think king Tut and Egg head would have worked here.They could have given tut a dark origin.Egghead would not be an idiot by collecting eggs but he could be an evil scientist with a dark origin as well.I wish he could have had white eyes too.I don't think the black widow would have worked here but they could have used her in "The batman".

[BlackoutCreature]

Its been a very long while since ive seen the old Adam West series, so I dont completely remember all these characters. From what i remember on King Tut, he was a relatively good guy who went a little crazy and started believing he was an ancient being of great power who deserved to rule the world. Thats pretty much the same story they did with Maxie Zeus. Why bring in Tut to do the same thing?

As for Egghead, I remember nothing about the guy other then i think he was played by Vincent Price. So lets look at what made Egghead "Egghead". A fascination with eggs, which you said should be eliminated. A weird bald look, which would probably have to be toned down. Played distinctively by Vincent Price, who obviously couldnt reprise the role. After that all we get is a generic mad scientist. Batman:TAS already had several. Why bother attaching the silly Egghead name to them when in the end they'd really have nothing to do with the Egghead character?

[pharmmajor]

I think Siren would have been a good character to use. She could have placed all the men in the JL under her control with her voice.

[Maxie Zeus]

Its been a very long while since ive seen the old Adam West series, so I dont completely remember all these characters. From what i remember on King Tut, he was a relatively good guy who went a little crazy and started believing he was an ancient being of great power who deserved to rule the world. Thats pretty much the same story they did with Maxie Zeus. Why bring in Tut to do the same thing?

Exactly. Alan Burnett, IIRC, even said in a contemporary interview that Maxie Zeus was their "King Tut" character.

[BlackoutCreature]

Actually, thinking about this topic, i remember an episode of the Adam West show that featured a female stage magician who would use her abilities for evil instead of good (Zelda?). I think a darker version of this character might have worked. A petty thief who uses slight of hand tricks and smoke and mirrors to rob people. Batman could have drafted Zatanna to help him (before she discovered she had actual magic, because i can't believe she's a practicing sorceress in "Zatanna") to help him figure out all the stage magician's secrets. It wouldve made a great second Batman:TAS second appearance for her.

Another character I had an idea for wasn't from the Adam West series but from the old cartoon - Simon the Pieman. I just always had the idea for Simon "The Pieman" Volkoff, a Russian mobster who got his nickname by running his operation out of the back of a bakery. He wouldnt be much of an actual threat to Batman, but i figured a mobster rival for Rupert Thorne.

[Anthonynotes]

In the DCAU, we have seen a few villains from the 60s series turn into very dark and serious characters.False Face (BB),the clock king (B:TAS,JLU) and MR freeze (even though he is one of the main in villains in the batman universe,we all know he was a loser before b:TAS).I also believe that the old woman in "Eggbaby" I heard about is like the old woman with her 3 sons in the adam west series.I forgot her name but I just heard they were supposed to be the same characters (correct me if I'm wrong).Which villains from that series do yo think would have worked here? I think king Tut and Egg head would have worked here.They could have given tut a dark origin.Egghead would not be an idiot by collecting eggs but he could be an evil scientist with a dark origin as well.I wish he could have had white eyes too.I don't think the black widow would have worked here but they could have used her in "The batman".

Mr. Freeze and the Clock King both come from the comics originally, and predate the Adam West TV show (Freeze first appeared in 1959, under the name "Mr. Zero", while CK first appeared a year later)---IIRC, Clock King was originally a Green Arrow foe.

[Cortez2301]

Mr. Freeze and the Clock King both come from the comics originally, and predate the Adam West TV show (Freeze first appeared in 1959, under the name "Mr. Zero", while CK first appeared a year later)---IIRC, Clock King was originally a Green Arrow foe.

I know they are from the comics.I was referring to them when they appeared in the 60s show.

[The Penguin]

I know they are from the comics.I was referring to them when they appeared in the 60s show.

Well referencing them as 60s villains that animation cleaned up doesn't really hold when you are talking about ones that came from the comic book. False Face pretty much just had the same name, he was nothing like the 60s character. You can find a villain named "False Face" in all different kinds of media so it's hardly a modification on that theme.

Ma Mayhem was the Batman Beyond villain and Ma Parker was the West villain. I suppose this is variations on a theme, but like False Face this is very common. I watched an episode of The Dukes of Hazzard earlier today that had an evil mama and her dim-witted boys being all evil like.

I realize and respect that you're trying to give examples to spark the discussion, but there are really no examples to use. Freeze was lame all over the Batman universe before Dini and Timm got a hold of him and Clock King was a very forgettable and imo a lame Adam West villain (his two episode titles didn't even rhyme).

Anyway...

King Tut and Egghead are the strongest original villains from the 60s series and with Tut basically being an Egyptian version of Maxie Zeus that just leaves us with Egghead. Plenty of people can do a good Vincent Price impression so I think it could work. I don't think a modern version of Eggie would have very strong legs to appear in multiple episodes however.

Looking at the list from the awesome resource that is The 1966 Batman TV Tribute Site, most of the series-created villains weren't really that special. Outside of the two big ones already discussed, Louie The Lilac (played by Milton Berle) was the only one I liked and he was basically a mobster with flowers as his gimmick. I think The Siren could probably work on some level too.

The list...
The Archer
Black Widow
The Bookworm
Chandell
Colonel Gumm
Dr Cassandra
Egghead
Falseface
King Tut
Louie The Lilac
Lord Fogg
Ma Parker
Marsha, Queen Of Diamonds
The Minstrel
Minerva
Nora Clavicle
Olga, Queen Of The Cossacks
The Sandman
Shame
The Siren
Zelda The Great

[Cortez2301]

Well referencing them as 60s villains that animation cleaned up doesn't really hold when you are talking about ones that came from the comic book. False Face pretty much just had the same name, he was nothing like the 60s character. You can find a villain named "False Face" in all different kinds of media so it's hardly a modification on that theme.

Ma Mayhem was the Batman Beyond villain and Ma Parker was the West villain. I suppose this is variations on a theme, but like False Face this is very common. I watched an episode of The Dukes of Hazzard earlier today that had an evil mama and her dim-witted boys being all evil like.

I realize and respect that you're trying to give examples to spark the discussion, but there are really no examples to use. Freeze was lame all over the Batman universe before Dini and Timm got a hold of him and Clock King was a very forgettable and imo a lame Adam West villain (his two episode titles didn't even rhyme).

Anyway...

King Tut and Egghead are the strongest original villains from the 60s series and with Tut basically being an Egyptian version of Maxie Zeus that just leaves us with Egghead. Plenty of people can do a good Vincent Price impression so I think it could work. I don't think Eggie would have very strong legs to appear in multiple episodes however.

Looking at the list from the list from the awesome resource that is The 1966 Batman TV Tribute Site, most of the series-created villains weren't really that special. Outside of the two big ones already discussed, Louie The Lilac (played by Milton Berle) was the only one I liked and he was basically a mobster with flowers as his gimmick. I think The Siren could probably work on some level too.

The list...
The Archer
Black Widow
The Bookworm
Chandell
Colonel Gumm
Dr Cassandra
Egghead
Falseface
King Tut
Louie The Lilac
Lord Fogg
Ma Parker
Marsha, Queen Of Diamonds
The Minstrel
Minerva
Nora Clavicle
Olga, Queen Of The Cossacks
The Sandman
Shame
The Siren
Zelda The Great

Was Lord Fogg the guy with the pipe?

[The Penguin]

Was Lord Fogg the guy with the pipe?

Yes he was. That was the three-episode arc they were in the fake London, Londinium.

[Anarky]

unlucky for us, there continues to be legal issues w/ the dvd release of this series

i wish tvland would re-air the series

btw, there are other characters from the comics i'd like to see adapted to the batman before dipping into the adam west well:

Lady Shiva
The Black Spider (possibly a tie-in w/ The Black Mask)

and they've yet to introduce Two-Face, The Scarecrow, Mad Hatter, and Ra's al Ghul. Hopefully they'll appear in S5.

[Cortez2301]

Yes he was. That was the three-episode arc they were in the fake London, Londinium.

Thanks.BTW I like Louie the lilac too.

[Vgmastr]

The Bookworm was a great villain. I think a villain who based his crimes on famous works of literature would have fit in perfect in the DCAU. The late Roddy McDowall played him perfectly on the show, and he went on to voice the Mad Hatter on B:TAS, so he could have reprised the role if they wanted him to. The Bookworm was always my favorite of the villains created for the '66 series. It helps that he was a season 1 villain, when the show was a little more serious and not as campy as it would later become.

[AdamYJ]

Yeah, I think The Bookworm would be an interesting choice. Imagine a guy so obsessed with literature that he's willing to steal it. They could come up with some sort of tragic background for him and everything. Maybe a kid from a broken home whose only means of escape was by reading books. Something like that.

[Cortez2301]

The Bookworm was a great villain. I think a villain who based his crimes on famous works of literature would have fit in perfect in the DCAU. The late Roddy McDowall played him perfectly on the show, and he went on to voice the Mad Hatter on B:TAS, so he could have reprised the role if they wanted him to. The Bookworm was always my favorite of the villains created for the '66 series. It helps that he was a season 1 villain, when the show was a little more serious and not as campy as it would later become.

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[Anthonynotes]

>>
i wish tvland would re-air the series<<

The old live-action TV show is airing in syndication in some areas; around here, it airs every Sunday at 4 PM for an hour (two cliffhanger episodes)...

Agree it not being on DVD is annoying (especially given the rights issues behind it---20th Century Fox made the show, while Time-Warner owns the characters...). Talk about "Bat-embargo"...

[creativerealms]

The Archer was an old Superman villain.

Louie The Lilac could have worked with Batman TAS's mob feel. Plus a mobster episode with Poison Ivy (Who I could see teaming up with Louie) would have been interesting

[M.O.D.O.K.]

I would have liked to see a dark, vigilante version of Archer taking on Green Arrow. They could make great enemies.

Also, I have a new idea for King Tut, but I'll post it later. It is very different from Maxie Zeus, but its also a combination of the 60's show, and the B:TAS ep. Mad As A Hatter, with a dark twist.

[jv2k]

I think the joker from the series could have worked with batman TAS

[Cortez2301]

I think the joker from the series could have worked with batman TAS

Would he have worked in MOTP? Noooooooooooooooooooo.........