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    Some thing "Super Fake" in Starcrossed

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    In Starcrossed how come only the JL & The Army was fighting

    What happend to Nightwing,Aquaman,Robin,Batgirl,Supergirl,Static,Gear
    Do they want us to believe that the hero's in JLU was just hiding that basically kills anything heroic about them for the casual fan.


    It should not have been the way it was I was really dissapointed. I would have like to see a huge WAR OF THE WORLDS Spanning from Anansi in Africa to Dakota with Static

    instead we get 7 people & the US army VS The Thanagarians

    WTF happend in China or Africa or Europe

    Was anyone else dissapointed .

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    Aquaman cares only for Atlantis. When the hawkmen swm down and attacked them directly, he'd be there.

    Forget Static and his second string characters! What was happening to Lex? Why wasn't Robin in the batcave? Where on earth were these 57 heroes we're pegged to see in JLU? I don't care about Static and what he's doing, he's a low level crime fighter.

    I think this is the point JLU is making. Heroes NEED to band togeather as Starcrossed proved they are useless alone

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    Nope, cause we have JLU for the excess of heroes.

    Quite frankly, the ones you mentioned:

    Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl = all humans, and Batman's basically the most fine-tuned "human" on earth, so to have his partners fight against aliens would be suicide

    Supergirl = Superman probably didn't want her interfering

    Static & Gear = probably percieved as being "too young"

    Aquaman = doesn't care about the rest of the world

    Who's to say that Starcrossed's events didn't spur on the JL's decision to expand? With all communications probably being monitored, the JL couldn't exactly just go and contact anyone they wanted--the Thanagarians had a lock-down in effect. Superheroe's probably stayed in their hometowns to protect against the bird-men.

    This is all theoretical, but it's the best reason I can come up with. Too many heroes would've taken away from the impact of the Hawkgirl/GL relationship.

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    Why wasn't Robin in the batcave?
    If you go with BB continuity, he could've been retired as Robin by the time the JL came around. I'm sure there's an important continuity issue that says otherwise, but I'm blanking on it right now.

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    I know any real hero like Arrow

    Would be suited up & Shooting Thanagrians down & in hand to hand combat They would lose yes but they should have been shown caputured & tortured even in a 5 minute Video piece by Snapper Carr which could have been the stuff shown before that Ugly eyed thanagarian guy saying "we are your friends thing"

    atleast show that they exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird Boy
    Nope, cause we have JLU for the excess of heroes.

    Quite frankly, the ones you mentioned:

    Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl = all humans, and Batman's basically the most fine-tuned "human" on earth, so to have his partners fight against aliens would be suicide

    Supergirl = Superman probably didn't want her interfering

    Static & Gear = probably percieved as being "too young"

    Aquaman = doesn't care about the rest of the world

    Who's to say that Starcrossed's events didn't spur on the JL's decision to expand? With all communications probably being monitored, the JL couldn't exactly just go and contact anyone they wanted--the Thanagarians had a lock-down in effect. Superheroe's probably stayed in their hometowns to protect against the bird-men.

    This is all theoretical, but it's the best reason I can come up with. Too many heroes would've taken away from the impact of the Hawkgirl/GL relationship.

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    Static,Rubber band man,Sheband would have kicked the Thanagarians Ass

    Plus the Villians would have helped out because the Thanagarians are trying to kill them aswell


    it would be Every Super Person on Earth along with The Fire Fighters & cops VS The Thanagarian Armada something like the scene in I'Robot


    Superman couldn't tell Supergirl or any of the young hero's anything they love this planet they would have fought aswell

    What about the Amazonz they where @ risk

    & Atlantis is on Earth the whole planet was @ risk

    I know if that was real The Heros would have fought for there planet & because they didn't in Starcrossed out of Free will & stayed hiding they appear to be week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird Boy


    If you go with BB continuity, he could've been retired as Robin by the time the JL came around. I'm sure there's an important continuity issue that says otherwise, but I'm blanking on it right now.

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    What are you talking about he was just in Dakota helping Static a few months before in continuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king_k4life
    & Atlantis is on Earth the whole planet was @ risk
    Problem is, Aquaman probably was just preparing for an invasion on Atlantis. I mean, not EVERYBODY knew the plannet was set to be destroyed remember. Batman and the JL only knew though a dose of figuring it out and hawkgirl telling them.

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    The thing is we don't see everything that happens. This heroes were all probablly helping in their own way but we don't get to see it, it's left to our imagination.

    Like for example, Batgirl and Robin could have been in Nightwing's loft gathering info on Thanagar and their weapons. Steel could have been fighting off Thanagarians in his neighborhood. We don't get to see what everyone does.


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    Ok Great point that rules them out for it & The Amazons


    but I am sure once they started all the lockdown stuff they should haves suited up & fought back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The JLU Kid
    The thing is we don't see everything that happens. This heroes were all probablly helping in their own way but we don't get to see it, it's left to our imagination.

    Like for example, Batgirl and Robin could have been in Nightwing's loft gathering info on Thanagar and their weapons. Steel could have been fighting off Thanagarians in his neighborhood. We don't get to see what everyone does.
    They should have acknoledge them they had the models for JLU ready right just use that & for the Nightwing & the older villians use the The Batman/Supes Adventures redoes just digitally erase the villians that they where fighting & put in some CGI thanagarians

    come on JLU Kid Timm & Company just forgot about everyone else.

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    it would have been a nice preview for JLU to show quick clips of other heroes here & there fighting off the birdmen to bad they didn't think to add it but I guess it makes sense because all throughout JL there was Earth in trouble events and only the main cast seemed to do anything about it

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    Exactly for Ep's like

    The Firstone & Major Worldly battles it should have included about 15 people fighting to imply that it is a major war

    The JL only would been good for eps like the one with the Royal Flush(my fav ever)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird Boy
    If you go with BB continuity, he could've been retired as Robin by the time the JL came around. I'm sure there's an important continuity issue that says otherwise, but I'm blanking on it right now.

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    Return of the Joker is that issue. According to it, Tim Drake will retire as Robin the same time the Joker dies. Since the Joker is alive and feeling fine, Robin must still be active as Batman's sidekick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king_k4life
    They should have acknoledge them they had the models for JLU ready right just use that & for the Nightwing & the older villians use the The Batman/Supes Adventures redoes just digitally erase the villians that they where fighting & put in some CGI thanagarians

    come on JLU Kid Timm & Company just forgot about everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king_k4life
    come on JLU Kid Timm & Company just forgot about everyone else.
    The Thanagarians were presumably all over the world. However, the movie only focused on a few separate areas. Other heroes were presumably off fighting the Thanagarians other places on Earth, but we didn't see them because the movie focused on what the Justice League was doing (because the show is called "Justice League"). Just because we didn't see them doesn't mean they weren't fighting it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king_k4life

    WTF happend in China or Africa or Europe
    There is a specific dialogue between General Wells and one of his subordinates that explains that China, France and Russia were all unable to launch their tactical nukes, implying that the Thanagarians were able to neutralize those military powers the same way they neutralized the U.S.

    Furthermore, there is a scene with Wells addressing other personnel within NATO, when the Thanagarians put the kibash on all of their communications.

    That's WTF happened to them .

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    I don't see why you're so shocked that we didn't see anybody else. I mean, we didn't really see anybody else when the white martians invaded either. But that makes sense, it's a show about the main seven, not JLU.

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    Even though the others are individually strong, they were not part of any organized force that could threaten the Thanagarians.
    That's why they need to be in a "League."

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    Yeah we didn't see what a lot of the other heroes were doing and that kind of to be expected . This show is the JL and they pretty much stay focused on those members (although a few cameos would have been nice). I imagine the other heroes weren't in the thick of things like the Justice League was and weren't privileged to a lot of the information that they had. The Justice League was seen as the main threat to the Thanagarians because they were the most powerful organized opposition they would face. a hero here and a hero there probably were a lot easier to take out.

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    Like everyone else I think that it's probably most likely that all of the new JLU members were fighting elsewhere in their own towns and neighborhoods like Static and his Partners all defending Dakota and Aquaman rallying Atlantis’s Navy incase the invader’s decided to attack. We spent most of Starcrossed in Metropolis and Gotham and we all know how territorial Batman is so there may not be any other heroes in his hometown and it's also likely that Supergirl was ether in Smallville or teamed up with Steel out fighting the good fight somewhere else.

    But all the same it would be kind of cool if their absence were addressed down the line. It would show some great continuity between the original Justice League and the new JLU to explain that the the reason why some of the more prominent DC heroes are missing from the show like Blue Beetle and Hal Jordan (Combat Pilot) was because they died defending the Earth from the Thanagarians in some place like Star City (as far as I know this is the only major fictional DC city in North America never shown on screen) and then show another big meeting of superheroes like the beginning of Initiation or the funeral in Hereafter when they erect a monument for them in their honor.

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