Anyone else here who dislikes Batman Beyond?

[BWDK]

Actually I could have posted this topic on the BB but I didn't because it's an anti-beyond topic. I know a lot of you guys like BB but the chances are better that there are more people on this board who have the same opinion.

Ok here's my coming out: I HATE BATMAN BEYOND! I even hate it more than Joel Schuhmacher

It really ruined all my ideas and thoughts of what will happen in the TAS/TNBA universe in the future. I didn't like ROTJ and I disliked the whole show. For me Batman is in the present and Batman is no science fiction stuff like Star Trek. And let's be honest BB was way too futuristic. Do you really think the world will look like this in 38/39 years? Overall I think the whole show was just a Spider-Man copy. The was just a demand of a teenaged super-hero since Buffy and other shows with teenaged heroes were so popular. (just want to clarify this: I'm not dissing Buffy, I love that show
It would have been a lot better if they made more TNBA episodes instead of 50+something BB episodes.

I read somewhere that Dini said that BB is just another Elsworlds and only a possible future. Thank you Paul that made my day!

[Maxie Zeus]

Originally posted by BWDK
Actually I could have posted this topic on the BB but I didn't because it's an anti-beyond topic. I know a lot of you guys like BB but the chances are better that there are more people on this board who have the same opinion.

Well, it belongs here because of the topic. And this board has hosted quite a few anti-BB threads in the past.

Ok here's my coming out: I HATE BATMAN BEYOND! I even hate it more than Joel Schuhmacher
It really ruined all my ideas and thoughts of what will happen in the TAS/TNBA universe in the future. I didn't like ROTJ and I disliked the whole show. For me Batman is in the present and Batman is no science fiction stuff like Star Trek. And let's be honest BB was way too futuristic. Do you really think the world will look like this in 38/39 years?

Ah, but if the show had shown the world as being little different from the present, the complaint would be: If the city looks the same anyway, why not just make more BTAS episodes? You always have to overemphasize technological change to make the future feel like the future.

Overall I think the whole show was just a Spider-Man copy. The was just a demand of a teenaged super-hero since Buffy and other shows with teenaged heroes were so popular. (just want to clarify this: I'm not dissing Buffy, I love that show
It would have been a lot better if they made more TNBA episodes instead of 50+something BB episodes.

I read somewhere that Dini said that BB is just another Elsworlds and only a possible future. Thank you Paul that made my day!

The "Spiderman" complaint has been made before. I'll leave it to others to answer the meat of your complaint.

[The Mad Hatter]

Too futuristic? I didn't think so... sure, things have advanced, but not to a ludicrous extent. Batman Beyond is one of the few "future" shows that doesn't clog the sky with flying cars. The vast majority of people still have the wheeled kind. For a comic book series, it did the future rather well.

Now for a BAD example, look at Zeta's future.... ech.

[Bird Boy]

bah...not to be rude, but ppl come here to talk about how they like batman beyond..and it usually angers me to some point when one of these pop up..but I respect your oppinions, so I'll say no more on this subject...

As for how BB screwed up the future..like Dini said..it's alternate. The idea of another batman besides Waynce certainly is weird, but I think the team pulled it off well.

-BB

[DisneyBoy]

I agree with you on several points. Frankly, I was disgusted with the notion of a "Batman of the Future" from the moment a saw a Kids WB ad featuring the new costume. I too am very upset that Dini and Timm devoted their engeries to create this drivel when there were still so many amazing stories to tell for the present Batman (and, in my opinion, the one and only Batman).

Still, I have come to realize that the animated Batman was going through some harder times, and that the only way to keep the series alive was to being reinventing it. That's why The New Adventures came about, and despite all my complaints, it wasn't all that bad. As for BB, from what I understand, the team was put under some pressure to create a show that teens would watch, and since they had so many good ideas, it was given a green light.

Personally, I hate the idea that Bruce Wayne will live the rest of his life alone and miserable, scarred from the life long battle against crime and unable to find true love. It sickens me to no end. The only thing worse, is the idea that "Batman" is some position to be handed down through the generations. Bruce Wayne is Batman, no one else ever will be. Terry, though being a relatively enjoyable character, is only a kid in a super-costume. Anybody could be a superhero with that suit on, no matter how much the show and it's fans try to deny it.

The villains were forgettable, except Inque (who bares too many similarities to Clayface to be ingored) and Blight (who was underused in the end).

Return of the Joker, like Batman Beyond, was a marketing scheme. "Hey, lets bring back all the old characters to improve ratings!" I wonder why bringing back the originals would be so popular? Hmmm, could it be that they have always been better????? In any case, Return of the Joker focused around the flashback, illustrating just how much Dini and Timm fought to keep the original series alive. The flashback gave them a chance to write an ending to their series, B:TAS, rather than simply let it die off as it appeared it was going to. I find that flashback, the cut-version (the only one I saw), extremely disturbing. I won't let myself say that I enjoyed it, because then it sounds like I promote and enjoy that kind of violence and I don't. But I do plan on buying the unedited DVD when it comes out.

All in all, if I could trade BB for more Batman episodes and films, I wish I could, but doing that might have meant an end to The Animated Series all together, and we might not have gotten the soon to come direct to video Batman's and Justice League as well. They did what they had to to keep the animated Batman alive. I can't begrudge them that. I, instead, chose from there work what I consider to be "my continuity": for example, "Heart of Ice" happened, but not "Rebirth". I still haven't full accepted the flashback in ROTJ, but I never really have to. My advice is choose to like what you like and ignore the rest, especially if there's nothing you can do to change it (like working on Gotham Adventures or B:TAS). Peace to you my friend. Don't Hate.

[James Harvey]

I'm closing this thread becuase it is a fanboard for Batman Beyond. This is a perfect way to start a flame war. The thread is now closed.