Which do you think was the worst of all 3 Batman shows?

[Blight]

Was it B:TAS, TNBA or BB? I think the worst was probably TNBA. The voice acting wasn't as good as in B:TAS and BB (in my opinion) and alot of the storys really sucked. I think the best show, however, was BB. I know most of us here probably think B:TAS was best, but I can't help but love Terry (and Blight!). Please post your opinions everyone!

See ya!
Blight

[The Flash]

TNBA....I just didn't like the change I guess.....

[Domino]

Batman Beyond. Retread villains, and as I have said before, it was more like a Spider-Man show than a Batman show. At no point would you ever have seen Bruce Wayne in his youth with an egg baby <g>.

[Salvor]

This is one difficult issue...

I'd say Batman Beyond. I know, it sounds crazy because I have a website dedicated to the show but still, it's no Batman.

[Tim Drake]

Either BB or TNBA. BB had a lot of stupid episodes with poor one shot villians. The Repeller, the rat-boy, armory, etc. etc. the list goes on and on. If nothing else TNBA had better villians. Plus TNBA had Over the Edge and Judgement Day! However, considering how short of a run it had some 20 something episodes they introduced a lot of villians that weren't needed. Instead of resurrecting some old ones. Firefly, and Calender Girl just don't compare to Riddler and others. Plus they got rid of all the cool mob bosses

BB had some good stuff. The first season was great and season 3 was pretty decent too. The Call, Rebirth, Out of the Past, etc. Actually know that I think about it I choose TNBA. because BB had ROTJ!!

[optimal321]

Well, i guess i'd have to say TNBA. I don't really have a reason. I like all of the series' and BTAS is my fav. Other than that, it's kinda a toss up between TNBA and BB. Not because they both stunk, but because they were both so great. But i guess i'd have to say TNBA.

[DR. BELCH]

--T:NBA. I never liked the redrawn Penguin, Riddler looked like a perambulating skeleton, Bane was inexplicably brought back after it was shown he was just a skinny 98-lb. wimp without his happy juice, and one-shot stinkers like Farmer Brown and Calendar Girl (who reminded me of a disgruntled Fashion Clubber on Daria; there could be crossover potential there). On the other hand Joker was honored well; his new look meshed nicely with his psychotic, antisocial personality demeanor (even when made to look like a buffoon you can see how dangerous he is when crossed). Batman Beyond had a few clunkers like "Heroes", "Rats", "Speak No Evil","Terry's Friend", and "Eggbaby" (I got raked over the coals for calling that one male-wussifying/bashing feminist pap)...but g.d. if they didn't make up for it with scripts like "Out of the Past", "Meltdown", "Inqueling" (probably my fav of the Inque trilogy), "The Call", and "Ace in the Hole".

[Mr. Obsession]

TNBA.

Sure, it was Batman, it was better than a lot of stuff out there at the time and it did produce some episode gems, but I still rank it as the weakest of the Batman shows.

My first problem would be that trying to cram Batman and Robin and Batgirl and Nightwing (yes I know it didn't happen much, but it still happened) plus one or more villains into a 20ish minute episode was to much.

Second would be that there were very few solo Batman ep's.

Third, while there were still some very good ep's there was CRITTERS. Yes the other series had their bad episodes, but this is CRITTERS I'm talking about. You can probably find someone out there who liked MOON OF THE WOLF or HEROES. But I challenge you, find one person who can honestly say that they liked CRITTERS (and only liking it for Farmer Brown's daughter doesn't count either )

Finally, the redesign. While I do think that some of the characters did look good, or even better in TNBA (Scarecrow's redesign is awesome) and I'm glad that the decided to use Superman's style since the two shows were running together. But I felt that the redesign for Batman just didn't look that good.


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I forgot to add that I also missed having the regular old mob around.

[Bud 'n Lou]

Riddler looked so gay

I'm curious. What exactly does "gay" look like?

[Blight]

I guess it's not surprising though. TNBA was pretty bad overall (which was highly dissapointing, because I really liked Batman's new design, among other things). Also, I probably should have added this in my first post, but it seems to me that TNBA was a little shorter than the other two shows in length (which is weird, because BB and TNBA were on the same network!) so that might have been one of the reasons we got some episodes that felt too short.

See ya!
Blight

[DisneyBoy]

I loved most of B:TAS, except for a few weak episodes. TNBA took a lot of warming up to for me. The redesigns really ticked me off. True, the Scarecrow's design was really creepy, but he was never really animated correctly. He just looked too chunky. Oh, and considering that the look of the whole show was "streamlined", then why wasn't the animation better? You would think that they would have used the time they saved drawing Riddler's hair to make the backgrounds or people more 3D! Instead we got animation like "Sins of the Father"!
For me though, nothing compares to the insult that was Batman Beyond. Return of the Joker or not, seeing some teenager put on a supersuit and fight students with telekenetic powers and call himself Batman was going to far with artistic license. And the worst part is that they attached it to the amazing, television-altering, "best representation of Batman ever" show that was B:TAS. I will never buy into the idea that BB is the future in store for any of those amazing characters. It is a possible future, and "Elsewords" if you will. The worst part is imagining what could have been done with TNBA had the time and money and effort used to create BB was put into the original Batman instead.

[DR. BELCH]

Originally posted by Bud 'n Lou
I'm curious. What exactly does "gay" look like?

He looked wrong, I'll put it that way. Something about a bald-headed man running about in a skin-hugging green leotard just looks rather effeminate. I liked his old look better; the green jacket, trousers, and mask made him look dapper. Come to think of it, I didn't like Scarecrow's new design either--he reminded me more of The Undertaker on WWF than a scarecrow. And Catwoman's pasty white face and dark cropped hair was just--aaaaacck. Don't get me started.

[mxyzptlk]

i thought they were all pretty good but the worst ithought was bb

[Bud 'n Lou]

Something about a bald-headed man running about in a skin-hugging green leotard just looks rather effeminate

So bald men remind you of women? Hmm...
Anyway, I just wanted you, and everyone else here to know that I take offense to the use of "fruity boy", the affore mentioned statement, and similar statements. I'm surprised no one else spoke up about it. These ARE supposed to be the boards where everyone keeps an open mind and has respect for others, right? I know just about everyone here would be annoyed if someone said something equally derrogatory about blacks or jews.

[DerekPowers]

you tell em bud n lou. I agree, whos anyone here to start labeling people. we are all unique and different, and that includes Mr. Nygma!

anyway I CANT BELIEVE WHAT I'M HEARING!!! I had no idea there was such dissatifaction with tnba. I loved it. true btas was way better, but come on, tnba rocked. sure there was critters and love is a croc and a few bad ones, but overall it was great. and the animation was GREAT in some episodes, like "you scratch my back", "The demon within" "growing pains" "holiday knights", "never fear", "the ultimate thrill", "over the edge" and countless others. Seriously, take a second look at some of the animation, it was really great. I agree that selina's short hair wasnt doing it for me, but i liked her in the catwoman outfit. And i LOVED the new penguin so much. i loved his classic re-design and most of all i loved his new persona, the shady nightclub owner, the "pseudo-criminal". I didn't care for joker's new design, because he just look so skinny and weird, mainly because of the animation. in "world's finest" pt 1, he looked great. but in "joker's millions" he didnt look so hot, but not a huge issue. I didnt care too much for scarcrow's new design, but the scarcrow eps were great (never fear, over the edge). and we got Mad Love! I remember watching it with my roommate for the first time. i expected the psychological stuff and harley getting thrown out the window, but i can honestly say my roommate's mouth dropped when she got tossed. he just didnt expect it in a "kiddie" cartoon. so i guess you can tell i loved tnba. but i would have taken a whole riddler ep over farmer brown or calander girl or even the new croc anyday.

Anyway i really cant believe my ears (actually my eyes). but we all like different things i guess. I think btas was by far the greatest out of them all in every way, but then comes tnba. And i love bb, but if you twisted my arm i'd have to say it was the worst of the three. I might have been singing a different tune if the second season wasnt so bad, and if they brought back DEREK POWERS AKA BLIGHT, but what are you going to do? well thats my opinion. peace.

[Nightwing]

Originally posted by Bud 'n Lou

So bald men remind you of women? Hmm...
Anyway, I just wanted you, and everyone else here to know that I take offense to the use of "fruity boy", the affore mentioned statement, and similar statements. I'm surprised no one else spoke up about it. These ARE supposed to be the boards where everyone keeps an open mind and has respect for others, right? I know just about everyone here would be annoyed if someone said something equally derrogatory about blacks or jews.

Discrimination of any kind is not alloud on these boards, but we also understand if the use of certain words that offend other posters was unintentional, as some people just have involuntary speach that they themselves find inoffensive, but might not be aware they are offending others. Still, of course, it's also a precedent that all posters should respect each other. So replies containing language requests should be noted by everyone.

That said, all we need to do is keep that in mind and just enjoy our boards.

[Clayface]

I'd go with Batman Beyond, for all the reasons listed already.

[Salvor]

Originally posted by DerekPowers
anyway I CANT BELIEVE WHAT I'M HEARING!!! I had no idea there was such dissatifaction with tnba

Neither did I! This wave of dissatisfaction astounds me...

[Fish]

The worst of the 3? Hmm...tough one. Lemme sum up mu thoughts

BTAS: the series that started it all and made me a fan. I think the episodes were great but some of the animation was horrible! The music was really good in BTAS and the eps were dark even if the tone wasn't too gritty and violence was toned down. They made Batman work in a kidsshow without making grownups go "ough"

TNBA: Character redesign; I did not like the new design at first but eventually I got to like it. I think the animation was way smoother than in BTAS and the toys for that line are awesome cuz they look excactly the same as in the cartoon whereas I found the BTAS toys...sloppy.
Stories was lighter but the tempo and violence in the eps were faster and more frequent. They were not afraid to show blood.
The use of CGI in some eps was really cool and was very well an integrated part of the cartoon( unlike Subzero where it doesn't blend in that well but looks cool anyways)

BB: New redesign again and a new Batman. I was not a fan at first but watched the show 'cuz Bruce was in it and I wanted to know about what happened. Animation is ok but I liked the softer animation on both BTAS and TNBA better. If you take a look at BB it seems as if all shapes are carved in stone. Peoples faces are square the buildings and all. Music is raw techno-rock and made to appeal to a young audience. The plots were often not very good and there was too many new charracters who didn't get developed enough. What a shame.

My choice: BB was the worst!! Sorry Terry

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[Inque]

Am I the only one where who loves Batman Beyond?!?!?!?!

I'd say the worst would have to be TNBA