That wouldn't be very fair to George Newburn at all.
Does anyone else feel that WB should try and get Tim Daly back to voice Superman, not that George Newbern is bad, but I was watching a taoe of older Superman shows and Tim Daly IS Superman, it's amazing to me how he really feels like the character. I know I was disappointed when I tuned in for BB The Call and heard Christopher McDonald (originally the voice of Jor-El, cast very well I might add) do Supermans voice. It just did'nt feel like the same character I had grown to love on Superman and I think it took away from it. Same thing with Justice League, I just keep imaganing how Daly would sound in the show as opposed to Newbern. I know that if I were a WB exec I would dub Daly over the other actors and restore Superman to his original voice, of course JL has been notorious for voice recasts, such as Metallo and some of the other villians. Oh well, heres hoping, just had to get that out. Until the Batman: TAS DVD boxed set, (as well as Superman I'm hoping)...
That wouldn't be very fair to George Newburn at all.
I remember hearing that Tim Daly's schedule was always eratic, and it would slow down production on "Superman The Animated Series".
Perhaps this was why Christopher McDonald was asked to do the voice of Superman on "Batman Beyond", but I think it was closer to the fact that McDonald had played Jor-El before on "Superman-TAS", and now he was playing Superman 40 years into the future. It makes sense that Superman would start to sound like his father, Jor-El, as he grew older.
Bruce Timm needed to recast for the role on "Justice League" when Mr. Daly was unavailabe due to his committment to "The Fugitive" series, and although Daly was gone I suppose he was happy not have the same delays in production.
I like George Newbern, and he has improved. I will admit that in the beginning of "Justice League" he sounded like Superman needed a nap or something, or maybe he was trying for an older sounding voice. But ever since "Twilight" aired he's actually become very good at mimicing Tim Daly. I suppose Bruce Timm sat him down and forced him to watch some old "Superman: TAS" episodes.
And although Newbern has improved a great deal, Tim Daly will always be for me THE Animated Superman. Just like Christopher Reeve is THE live action Superman.
No. I like Newbern now.
Daly was a damn good--no, wait, he made Superman. But now he's gone, and I really think we should just forget about it and move on. If we get any pre-JL DTV's sometime, I'm sure they'll get Daly (like they did for the PS2/GCN game) to voice him. But now...Newbern should get to keep it for however long the show goes.
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When they first did the voice change, it really took some getting used to George Newburn's voice. But now, I really love him as Superman. I would hate to see that change at this point in the series.
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If Tim Daly is available for the next season, I would make that hire immediately. Newburn makes Superman sound like he's got a head cold or something. Very nasaly and congested
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What LightAngel said. I wasn't happy they recasted the voice, but now that he's firmly established himself with good perfomances in "Twilight" and afterward, it wouldn't be a good idea to bring Daly back. It would have been better if Daly was available from the beginning, but that's show biz.
The only case I can think of when they recasted a voice and later changed it back to the original actor was in ReBoot's third season. Michael Benyaer was replaced with Ian Corlett as the main character Bob, then when Benyaer became available again for season IV, they actually worked the voice change into the plot with a "double-Bob" mystery. Very clever move.
'Course, I'm not expecing a similar thing to happen in JL. Keep Newbern. He's almost as good.
No, Newburn shouldn't be recast in the middle of the series. For better or for worse Newburn is the JL Superman. Besides, he has greatly progressed and in episodes like "Twilight" dare I say he was at close to being as good as Daly if not just as good.
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No.
Certainly, everyone seemed to have to get used to Newbern's voice (personally, I didn't notice until someone pointed it out), but now he is the JL Superman. Daily did a great job with the part of STAS, but its dead and cancelled, and Daily is gone. Newbern has been doing a good job taking on the role, with all the critics he's received, and delivered wonderful performances from "Twilight" or "Comfort and Joy". Sure, he has his ups and downs, but don't all voice actors?
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Im a George fan now. He has improved since the begining and it really showed in season 2 so there is no way I would think about giving it back to Tim Daly unless Newbern didnt want the job anymore. Thats only fair. Going back and dubbing Tims voice over Georges no matter how much he might not be liked by some would be wrong.Originally Posted by GF2814
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I don't think Daly could pull off the "I'm great." that Newburn delivered in A Better World.
I agree (something wierd's going on. That's twice now)Originally Posted by Matt Wilson
Y'know, I heard Swedish chicks dig fish guys. It's a well-known fact.
Your'e right in so many respects, the JL Superman is Newbern, for better or worse, the design was changed and it goes along with that. Coming from the standpoint of dubbing overhim, yeah that really is'nt fair to Newbern, not that I'm saying he's bad, I just preferred Daly. I did enjoy hearing him again in the PS2 game. I do hope he comes back if they do a DTV movie, although I don't see that happening, WB's focus and response from viewers has always been Batman. Anyway, always good to hear the opinions of others on the shows I've come to love.
I was thinking it would be cool if Daly reprised Bizarro if and when he made an appearance on Justice League. But if he has an ego, he may not want to step down to that. But Daly is contracted as the voice for Superman in all STAS related stuff i.e. video games and DTV's.
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Placing him as Bizarro would be a good idea. I've wanted him to return for sometime, and it would help satisfy die-hard Daly fans to hear him voice a character again.Originally Posted by GL2k2
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I'm with GL2k2 and Fernus. Having Daly voice Bizarro would be the ultimate show of respect to him, without stepping on Newburn's toes.
I don't think Newbern is great, but he has improved to the point where I don't really notice him being bad anymore. It also helped that the writers reduced the amount of "enough" and "all bets are off" lines.
If JL were a better show, and I felt like Newbern specifically was dragging it down, I would want Daly back, but as it is, I am quite happy to stick with Newbern, unless there were a major overhaul of the entire show.
Yeah, it would almost make him more Bizarro-like; to not have the new voice actor, but the old one. Also, if the creative team was ever to do the actual Crime Syndicate, I could see Tim Daly as Ultraman. Then we can see a Daly-Newburn brawl. Winner takes the cape, baby!Originally Posted by GL2k2
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Not much for me to add, except I agree with the general consensus. Newbern improved greatly in Season 2, should stay with JL as long as he wants, but Daly should do any STAS DTVs if there are any. (Although I'm losing faith that WB is going to do anything substantial with Superman in the near future. Not counting "Smallville", of course.)
I did think Newbern was the worst cast member in the first season, but now that he's more Daly-esque (without being an imitation), I think the worst cast member might be...
*looks around nervously*
... Kevin Conroy. He's still my favorite Batman actor in any media, and I'd hate it if he was ever replaced, but I've seen times when his JL performance seems to be missing something. He doesn't seem as good as he was on BTAS, but I suppose it's a bit unfair to say that, seeing as nobody else in the cast has the baggage of performing their characters for 10 years. Still, I find his performance quality somewhat erratic, while the rest of the cast is fairly consistent to my ears.
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Actually I think I know what you mean. But I don't blame it on Conroy, I blame the writers over using and misproperly using Batman. His character seems out of place, and since he's not as mean as Wolverine, where'd he'd show up in the Batmobile and say "Flip you guys I'm outta here." (Which he has done in a couple like Secret Society, but then everyone did in that one), then it is odd to see him in some situations. Makes me want to see Batman less in the series, which I imagined from the get go. I don't feel we needed him in "Twilight" or "Hereafter" and a few others out of the series. He just seems out of place sometimes, tossing witty cynical remarks around, and using gadgetry and wits to save the day. And that's not how he should be used. He should almost be treated like a guest star in my opinion, where if they see Batman is on the case, then they know something big is going down. But on his level that is. Something like "Twilight" I don't feel Bats should be around.
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