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    "Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Season 9" Series Talkback (Spoilers)

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    Now that the dust has settled after the climactic events of the previous season... Season 9 is finally upon us, complete with new status quos for some major players!

    Brace yourselves Scoobies, because here we go again...

    BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER: SEASON 9 #1



    WRITER: Joss Whedon & Andrew Chambliss
    COVERS BY: Georges Jeanty & Jo Chen & Steve Morris
    PENCILS: Georges Jeanty

    THE STORY: Buffy Season 9 is here!

    Season 8 ended with a bang when Buffy cut the world off from the hell dimensions and all supernatural influence. Great, right? Except Buffy has left her best friend, Willow, powerless, and ended the long line of vampire slayers, leaving her hated by the hundreds of girls who recently stood behind her. Newly relocated to San Francisco, Buffy can count on a fresh start, and focus on what she's good at--slaying.

    Thoughts? What are your comments?

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    I slogged my way through all of season 8 and kind of...hated it. Intensely, actually. I'm gunshy about season 9 because of that, but it does sound like a lot of the stuff I hated about the last run has been tossed aside. I might grab this next week depending on what other longtime Buffy fans seem to think.

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    Buffy #1 wasn't anything special. It was better than most of S8, but thats not hard to do.

    It seemed like it was just a tease to all the shippers out there. They teased Buffy/Spike, Buffy/Xander, Buffy/Riley, Buffy/Willow....

    There was really no aftermath of season 8. Nobody bothers to mention Giles at all, though he was an important figure in there lives. They just party and get drunk.

    Plus, the twist at the end is a demon collecting student loans? I have lost faith in you, Joss Whedon.

    I liked the first issue of Angel & Faith much better. They actually deal with the events of season 8. They address the Twilight mess, Giles death, the loss of innocent life, and other consequences.


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    I was about to reply to your post, MasterDartz, and address the Giles subject by pointing out the Angel & Faith book. But you already did that by the end of your post

    I won't be able to pick up BtVS S9 #1 until next week probably, but I have read the first issue of Angel & Faith and although I'm glad they deal with a lot of Giles stuff (executed quite well actually) there, it does seem odd that they seemingly glaze over it in the "core" book.

    I'm glad that the "Angel" book is now also in Dark Horse's hands, it'll benefit to the continuity in the universe. Even though both BtVS S8 and Angel: After the Fall ( / Aftermath) had Whedon as producer and sometimes writer, to this day I still have no idea when all the events from Angel's book were supposed to have taken place in Buffy's continuity and how he ended up being Twilight.

    For anyone that wasn't aware, the Angel & Faith book is going to be the "Green Lantern Corps" title to the core book, so it is worth picking up. Seeing as it will probably be a less popular title I think it's okay to discuss the events of that book in this thread as well. Unless this thread ends up being hijacked by its discussion, in which case it'll warrant its own thread

    As a final note on the first issue of A&F: the "twist" with Whistler came out of left field, didn't it?

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    @Xurk

    I'm kind of mad that Scott Allie says the Buffy title isn't focusing on the aftermath of season 8 much and is instead looking full-speed ahead to the future. Ugh.

    I would actually like character moments where they reflect on their feelings of past events. Its those character moments that make Angel & Faith so great.

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    What I do like about the first issue is how down-to-earth it is, throwing off BtVS-early-seasons vibes. Which could be expected as that's exactly what they're going for (addressed at the end of Season 8 in the letters column). What I don't like is how they seemingly glaze over everything that happened last season (sure, it's referenced here and there but no direct repercussions are really addressed), as MasterDartz already mentioned.

    But it's great to have Buffy back. I'm glad in a way that all of the (former) "Potentials" are now powerless as it makes Buffy more special and also changes the focus of the stories in a good way. Also, there was an abundance of typical Scoobie humor in this first issue - almost to the point where it became a bit too much. I said almost

    All in all, this was an obvious set-up issue for the season. I don't really enjoy those kind of issues that much as it feels like treading water somehow and gets me anxious for the story to get on with it already. But I'm pretty certain things will pick up soon enough

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    Whoops, forgot to update this thread last week... I'll be reading this issue in the next day or two, so:

    BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER: SEASON 9 #2



    WRITER: Joss Whedon & Andrew Chambliss
    COVERS BY: Steve Morris & Georges Jeanty
    PENCILS: Georges Jeanty

    THE STORY: Buffy continues her nightly patrols while trying to cobble together a sensible life . . . Willow's adopted a new look, while Dawn and Xander celebrate the comforts of a magicless world. The fun and games come to a halt when mysteriously marked bodies start appearing. As Buffy starts to investigate she captures the attention of San Francisco police detectives who have taken notice of the unnaturally gifted Slayer . . .

    Written by series creator Joss Whedon, with Andrew Chambliss of Dollhouse and the CW's The Vampire Diaries!

    Thoughts? What are your comments?

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    I enjoyed the second issue of BtVS: Season 9 more than the first The preliminary setup has been done and it seems like the story will have a steady pace from here on out.

    The "new" (i.e. old-school) down-to-earth approach feels right. It's interesting to see how everyone is affected by being cut off from magic, including demons. Nice touch having them being forced to get day jobs I always forget that by now, in the Buffyverse, demons are fully acknowledged by society. It played out as a nice comedic moment in this issue.

    Also, I'm eager to witness the inevitable clash which will go down between Buffy and Willow as a consequence of what Buffy has indirectly done Willow by destorying the "Seed".

    The idea of having someone being able to revert vampires back to their human form (as well as killing them in doing so?) is novel, I'm interested to see how that plays out in the next few issues. As well as how Buffy's roommates are going to react to her being wanted by the police (so much for living under the radar).

    Over in "Angel & Faith" the story is getting more intriguing also. It appears that BtVS will be the (sometimes) fun & quirky book while A&F will be the angsty one. But Angel's plan to bring Giles back from the dead? No way is this going to end well (remember Dawn and Joyce in Season 6 of BtVS?)...

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    BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER: SEASON 9 #3



    WRITER: Andrew Chambliss
    COVERS BY: Steve Morris & Georges Jeanty
    PENCILS: Georges Jeanty

    THE STORY: Spike has heard rumblings. Someone, or something, is coming for Buffy--and now, after she recklessly slipped out of police custody, the SFPD is certainly looking. When Buffy's family and friends deny her refuge from the cops, she turns to the streets and slaying, where she discovers there's a new kind of vampire slayer in town . . .

    ī Buffy stakes her way into a new kind of trouble!

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    I have enjoyed the beginning of the new season. I think they have shown the threats that are coming, but the buildup they are doing is nice. After Japan, the last series really went off the wheels. This series look like it is going back to its base.

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    BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER: SEASON 9 #4



    WRITER: Andrew Chambliss
    COVERS BY: Steve Morris & Georges Jeanty
    PENCILS: Georges Jeanty

    THE STORY: As Xander, Dawn, and Willow retreat into their own complicated lives, Buffy finds herself drawn more closely to her new friend Severin, a mysterious crime fighter in his own right, and a snappy dresser to boot. Together they take on a new kind of vampire threat while Buffy's not-in-the-know roomies start snooping through her unslept-in bedroom. Now what could they possibly find?

    * Vampires, demons, corpses, and cops!

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    The above issue actually came out last week, but I forgot to post the update. I also haven't managed to get a hold of it yet, but I have recently read the previous month's installments of both BtVS and A&F.

    I'm liking the direction the story in BtVS has been heading so far. The repercussions for everyone due to the seed being destroyed are interesting and fun to learn more of each issue. I like how both titles are sharing continuity now, as opposed to how it was when Angel was at IDW and Buffy was at DH.
    In BtVS:S9 we learn that any vampires sired after the events of S8 become feral due to not being possessed but more or less mindless. In A&F we learn that the seed's destruction also warps the effect of regenerative demon blood due to the connection to another dimension being lost. All in all, it's crafting a fun and cohesive story, though I have to admit I'm still not used to the shared continuity yet, after the past few years of "After the Fall" / "Aftermath".

    You can say I'm excited to see where the cliffhanger with Buffy and Severin from issue #3 goes

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    Oh and I must add, the fact that (in the Buffyverse) a vampire isn't actually a person, but a demon possessing a person's body harkens all the way back to the explanation Giles gives in the first season of BtVS (episode 7: "Angel"). Not that I think they're trying to reference that particular episode in last month's issue, but still. It's pretty cool and consistent storytelling!

    On an unrelated note, at the moment I'm coincidentally following a weblog entitled "Mark Watches", which is by a guy named Mark () who watches TV shows from start to finish (I think on a one-episode-per-day basis?) and writes up recaps on them. He's currently doing BtVS and is only a handful of episodes in so far. The best part is he knows nothing about the show beyond its premise and has a strict anti-spoiler policy for the website. So it's really kind of a blast reading along and getting all nostalgic for the awesome reveals and twists the show had - knowing what's in store for him and anticipating his reaction! The '90s cheesiness which he notes is amusing as well

    If anyone else is interested, you can check it out here!

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    Xurk,

    For those of us who may not keep up with the comics, thanks for keeping this thread alive and allowing us to continue our connection to the Whedonverse through you! Also, thanks for the link! I'm excited to check it out. I experienced a bit of that delayed awesomeness, when I finally saw Angel seasons 2-4 on TNT earlier in the year after watching only season 5 during its original run.

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    So how to the comic readers feel about Buffy being
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    I miss the good ol' days. Toon zone used to be really fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormBlue View Post
    Xurk,

    For those of us who may not keep up with the comics, thanks for keeping this thread alive and allowing us to continue our connection to the Whedonverse through you! Also, thanks for the link! I'm excited to check it out. I experienced a bit of that delayed awesomeness, when I finally saw Angel seasons 2-4 on TNT earlier in the year after watching only season 5 during its original run.
    You're welcome! Sadly, I forgot to update the thread for the latest issues of Season 9 (both #5 issues) a few weeks ago

    For anyone still following the Mark Watches website that I linked to, he just did the season two finale the other day - which of course was awesome. So awesome that I'm reconsidering doing a rewatch of the entire show myself. I'd forgotten that season 3 is pretty cool as well until I started thinking of all the things that are in store for Mark over the next few weeks.

    Then to BtVS: Season 9 #5 (just finished reading it, Angel & Faith will be read later today). One thing I've noticed is that the way Willow talks and acts in the comic doesn't seem anything much like the Willow I remember from the show. Of course, this Willow is six years older than the Willow I've been reading about on Mark's blog the past few weeks, but still. The way she's been portrayed in the book both in S8 and S9 make her feel like a holier-than-thou character at times and she seems way too serious whereas I remember her being more of a geeky/quirky, fun character.

    The dreams didn't work that well for me. Nothing really important seemed to go down in them and it just ended up being too vague and obscure, which made the whole concept less interesting. But who knows, maybe they were full of references we won't get until later, like the episode "Restless" was As for the cliffhanger (referenced in the spoiler by creeper) - did NOT see that coming! I for one have no clue who the "culprit" (keeping cryptic here) is, anyone have any ideas? Or have we seen a scene this season yet which could explain this? If we have, I must be suffering from serious short-term memory loss
    I'm not sure if this is a road I want the story to go down, but I'm at least interested to see how this develops in the next issue...

    Touching on issue #4, which I forgot to comment on here: I enjoyed the look at Severin's backstory which was very interesting and simultaneously added to the overall story arc of this season so far. Zompires is a pretty great idea actually and I like the logic behind it! I was also genuinely worried for Spike and Buffy there, for a while (specifically Spike, as we know nothing that bad was going to happen to Buffy so soon - or do we?? ). Can't wait for the reveal on who he was working for. Hopefully it won't take a couple of years to find out, like it did last time with Twilight.

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    Whew, it's been a long time since I visited this thread... and BtVS S9 issue #10 comes out tomorrow if I'm correct!

    Anyone else still on board for one (or both) of the titles? I have to say, things have been interesting (that's an understatement) over the last few months

    In Buffy, we found out that she decided to have an abortion after a great issue she spent talking to Spike (making me realize after all these years, I still think they're a better match than Angel and Buffy are). However, soon after that we learned she in fact isn't pregnant after all as this is just Buffybot 3.0 we've been watching for the past few issues...?! Granted, it was Buff'y's consciousness placed inside the robot by Andrew, but still

    The whole plot sure is pretty interesting, especially with something big about to do down with Buffy's real body (which is living out Martha Stewart's dream somewhere in the middle of nowhere), but I feel kind of mixed at the moment. Springing a pregnant Slayer on us was a big enough shock, having her decide to have an abortion was another one and her supposedly losing an arm was another blow!

    But then all three of these plot points were more or less done away with by having Buffy turn out to "be" a robot. Rendering them all not amounting to much more than shock value... too bad. I don't mind the writers toying with us and handing us some fake-outs, but it feels like a bit too much.

    Still eager for the next issue though.

    I continue to enjoy Angel & Faith a lot as well I'm still somewhat disappointed that (asides from Spike) none of the Angel cast has appeared yet, but I guess that's just not the story they want to tell. And the current team-up is a refreshing take, I must give them that. Angel and Faith have always had good (non-romantic?) chemistry.

    Having Faith's father pop up supposedly a better man only to have him destroy all the progress she's made over the years was painful, as was that leading her to give in and finally be rid of all that torments her (thanks to Drusilla's trauma-sucking demon) only to have all those feelings returned just five minutes later (thanks to Angel)... ouch.

    Finally, I thought it was pretty cool to have a sane Drusilla as that makes for some interesting stories. Too bad they decided to revert her back to INsane at the end of the story arc

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    Of course, I was thinking of issue #9 but was confused as the last Buffyverse comic I read (A&F) was numbered #9 already

    Here we go!

    BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER: SEASON 9 #9

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    WRITER: Andrew Chambliss
    COVERS BY: Phil Noto & Georges Jeanty
    PENCILS: Georges Jeanty

    THE STORY: Andrew doesn't always make the best choices (see Season 6). And now Buffy finds herself and the very course of her life profoundly affected by one of Andrew's over-the-top, idiotic . . . hair-brained . . . schemes. Together with Andrew and Spike, the worried Slayer will have to confront herself and her comrades, as well as a long-standing annoyance, the number-one Buffy hater of all Buffy haters: Simone, the gun-toting Slayer.

    Thoughts? What are your comments?

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