Does Joe Quesada hate redheads?

[Uzemaki Goku]

Here's something I've noticed... it's rather funny but still infuriating. Joe Quesada seems to harbor a rather weird.. (if unconscious) grudge towards redheads. Let's take a look:

Jean Grey: Pointlessly killed off in Planet X simply because he didn't like her coming back in the mid 80's. (Even though I think Claremont, Byrne and Shooter all said the plan was for her to come back sooner or later) Oh, also because Emma Frost is supposed to be a more interesting couple with Cyclops. Even though Cyclops was having a psychic affair with Emma BEFORE Jean died. Because God knows, all these characters are now more interesting for being reworked into being more cynical... Jean was more idealistic (the kind of person we need in this day and age) so she's gone.

Yeah, I love how they turn Cyclops into a complete ***hole because it makes him more "interesting". Also, that the current generation of Marvel writers and editers tend to paint Jean as what does TV Tropes call it: (it used to be called "Jean Grey Escalation") "http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...everLiveItDown"

Mary Jane Watson Parker: Yeah, I think we all know what Joe Quesada did here.... believing that Peter was aged because he was married even though I personally the whole Peter's "struggling to hold onto a date or even a girlfriend" days had run their course. Granted, she wasn't killed off but nonetheless...

Janet Van Dyne Pym: The most recent unfortunate example. I don't know the details but I heard she was killed for the exact same reasons Quesada used to justify killing off Jean because Hank Pym is now "more interesting" without her. *sighs*

It seems the only reason Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman's marriage survives to this day is because Sue's a mother and a blonde.

Just typing away random thoughts here, heh. So what do you guys think?

[AlgeaX]

Janet Van Dyne Pym: The most recent unfortunate example. I don't know the details but I heard she was killed for the exact same reasons Quesada used to justify killing off Jean because Hank Pym is now "more interesting" without her. *sighs*

Jan's a brunett.

[Uzemaki Goku]

Jan's a brunett.

Huh.. is that TV Tropes page I linked to her hair looks more redish.. perhaps the best topic title would be does Joe Quesada hate wives...which I can't do as only a mod can change a title apparently...

[hobbyfan]

Joe Quesada wasn't the greatest in keeping deadlines as an artist, so who did he bribe to become editor-in-chief of Marble? Jean is killed---again--perhaps to keep it in line with the movie series. "Brand New Day" is a stupid concept that was briefly copied in the newspaper strip. Killing off Jan was another misguided editorial decision.

Today's Marbleheads are part of a society that is bred on scandal, and the belief that "Controversy Creates Cash", to borrow the title of Eric Bischoff's book. These idiots have forgotten one much more simplistic axiom. If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Peter & MJ is one example. Scott & Jean is another. It's time to go to the library, boys. Learn something about history, then fix the mess you created!

I'm glad I gave up collecting comics.

[GregX]

I prefer Scott and Emma to Scott and Jean. And why?

Because for the first time, ever, Scott Summers is an interesting character. Emma made him interesting.

Scott and Jean were always the dullest X-Men. That's why Jean spent most of her time either all powerful, evil, or dead.

[dmxx116]

I prefer Scott and Emma to Scott and Jean. And why?

Because for the first time, ever, Scott Summers is an interesting character. Emma made him interesting.

Scott and Jean were always the dullest X-Men. That's why Jean spent most of her time either all powerful, evil, or dead.

I'll take Scott and Jean over Scott and Emma anytime and if it done by Joe Quesada then I hate it bigtime.

[Temple Fugate]

Joss Whedon wrote Cyclops into a more badass character because he said he really liked Scott Summers and Astonishing X-Men was his chance to help comic book readers like him just as much.

I think he did a fantastic job. He's not just acting like a showboat. He backs up his attitude with power and intelligence again and again during Astonishing. His relationship with Emma is also much more interesting and believable than his previous devotion to alive-again-crazy-again-dead-again Jean Grey.

But whatever your opinion is on Cyclops, it's not Quesada that deserves the credit/blame.

[Uzemaki Goku]

I prefer Scott and Emma to Scott and Jean. And why?

Because for the first time, ever, Scott Summers is an interesting character. Emma made him interesting.

Scott and Jean were always the dullest X-Men. That's why Jean spent most of her time either all powerful, evil, or dead.

Regardless of how you feel, it's too bad he had to look like the absolute worst husband ever in order to do it. (Then again, he did the same thing to Madeolyne)

[Shawn Hopkins]

Joe used to work with Amanda Conner, who often has red hair, so I think he's on speaking terms with the gingers.

[Peter Paltridge]

Joe Q doesn't hate redheads, he just hates commitment.

The sad thing is, unless he writes the equivalent of Moby Dick tomorrow, his claim to fame for the rest of his life is going to be "that guy who made that horrible Spider-Man comic."

[TheVileOne]

Scott Summers before Quesada came along married and started a family with a redhead and then promptly dumped them when he found out Jean was alive. Oh, he also didn't tell Jean that he married a redhead that looked just like her and had a kid with her.

[Ed Liu]

Because for the first time, ever, Scott Summers is an interesting character. Emma made him interesting.

I beg to differ. Cyke was one of my favorite X-Men during my time when I was reading Uncanny regularly (#166-200 or so). He wasn't as flashy or flamboyant as a lot of the other X-Men, but that was one of the things I liked about him. Joss Whedon doesn't do a bad Cyke (and he seems to have been influenced by the same comics I was), but almost nobody else manages to get him right. They mostly do "boring Cyclops" because they can't distinguish between "muted" and "dull and uptight."

In response to the original question, I don't think Joe Quesada hates redheads or even commitment. I think he likes controversy and prefers the free PR that he gets when people are arguing over Marvel Comics, rather than being ignored. He's of the school that there's no such thing as bad press. It's unfortunate that a whole lot of his tenure can come off as pretty misogynistic in some ways, but I'd say that about superhero comics in general rather than Joe specifically.

I think he's wrong, but I do have to say that it was the Joe Q years along with Bill Jemas that got me reading Marvel books occasionally again. In some ways, I view his tenure at Marvel the same way I look at Jeff Katzenberg and Michael Eisner at Disney: the two oversaw a real creative resurrection working together before splitting up and making some truly terrible creative decisions.

[animeshark]

I beg to differ. Cyke was one of my favorite X-Men during my time when I was reading Uncanny regularly (#166-200 or so). He wasn't as flashy or flamboyant as a lot of the other X-Men, but that was one of the things I liked about him. Joss Whedon doesn't do a bad Cyke (and he seems to have been influenced by the same comics I was), but almost nobody else manages to get him right. They mostly do "boring Cyclops" because they can't distinguish between "muted" and "dull and uptight."

In response to the original question, I don't think Joe Quesada hates redheads or even commitment. I think he likes controversy and prefers the free PR that he gets when people are arguing over Marvel Comics, rather than being ignored. He's of the school that there's no such thing as bad press. It's unfortunate that a whole lot of his tenure can come off as pretty misogynistic in some ways, but I'd say that about superhero comics in general rather than Joe specifically.

I think he's wrong, but I do have to say that it was the Joe Q years along with Bill Jemas that got me reading Marvel books occasionally again. In some ways, I view his tenure at Marvel the same way I look at Jeff Katzenberg and Michael Eisner at Disney: the two oversaw a real creative resurrection working together before splitting up and making some truly terrible creative decisions.

^This I agree with. I have not been collecting from the Marvel series for a while, but the recent ones that I managed to pick up on one's spare time has changed from what I have read in the past.

Speaking of redheads, you could also add Angelica Jones (Firestar) to the list of reds that are getting a bad turn at Marvel. For some reason, they decided to give her breast cancer due to her mutant ability. I thought that being made sterile by one's own ability was bad, but I think the writers needed a way to add drama to Marvel Divas so poor Angelica was given some extra grief.