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    Ultimate Spider-Man #123 - 128 "War of the Symbiotes" Talkback (Spoilers)

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    Venom returns in Part 1 of “War of the Symbiotes”!

    ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #123



    Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
    Artist: Stuart Immonen

    The Story: When Spidey’s most fearsome foe strikes, it looks bad for the outmatched web-slinger, but Silver Sable and her Wild Pack may turn the tide! Have they come to save Spider-Man or is their motive something more sinister? Plus: this story adapts, expands and incorporates the hit Ultimate Spider-Man video game (which Brian Michael Bendis just happened to co-write) into Ultimate Spider-Man continuity! So be like Venom and return to Ultimate Spider-Man to find out why folks like Wizard are saying it’s “the best Spider-book on the stands right now.”

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    I thought this was pretty poor. For a villain with the potential Venom had, Bendis missed the mark completely. While Bendis can go on his tirades about how much Venom from the mainstream books sucked, he's done an even lousier job than they have with the character.

    His pacing is getting worse too. And I know I mention it in every Ultimate Spider-Man thread, but Jesus Christ, I miss Mark Bagley - nobody draws symbiotes as good as Mark Bagley.
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    Hmm, I'm not sure about this yet. I'll have to wait and see where it all goes.

    The art isn't that bad, I've come to be able to appreciate Stuart Immonen, even though I did catch myself wondering how Bagley would have drawn this issue and that it's a shame he only got to do one Venom arc on this book.

    I don't like the fact that Venom actually eats people [whole??] in this incarnation But I did think it was a "fun" twist to have everyone who sat on his bench and listened to his story [hello Forrest Gump!] not walk away, but probably eaten by him
    The storytelling was a bit confusing though; the part with Rhino is supposed to be recent, or from Ultimate Spider-Man Annual #1 two years ago? And all of the sudden, Venom is fighting Spider-Man, something I think is a shame is told through a flashback. I was expecting them to not fight until the present. Oh well, there'll probably be a lot more fighting before this story is over.

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    So be like Venom and return to Ultimate Spider-Man to find out why folks like Wizard are saying it’s “the best Spider-book on the stands right now.”
    True, but even then it's wasting it's potential, as IMO it has been since that damn Carnage arc. All storylines since just never appealed to me at all except for the Clone Saga. Bagley's departure just makes it worse, he made USM for me from the start anyway, not Bendis.

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    I guess with the whole eating people thing, this Venom won't turn into the anti-hero 616 version anytime soon. Even that one was a monster, he was somewhat redeemable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xurk View Post

    I don't like the fact that Venom actually eats people [whole??] in this incarnation
    It was pretty fun to do in video game but even their he didn't eat them...just absorb their energy. I think Immonen's art is good in this issue. The issue of course was just recap for people who haven't played the game.

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    ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #124



    Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
    Artist: Stuart Immonen

    The Story: “War of the Symbiotes” rages on – as the Ultimate Beetle takes flight! Deep inside the corporate headquarters of Roxxon lies a vial containing the creepy black symbiote substance…or at least it did, until the Beetle stole it! Can Spider-Man capture this bug thug before disaster strikes, and what is Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D.’s interest in the stolen material? The answers await in the book that has Ain’t It Cool News saying “It’s got excitement, emotion, action…I have such love for this book.”

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    I just read this issue, and I'm trying to figure out if it's all a flashback. Is this arc just a rehash of the videogame?

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    The War of the Symbiotes rages on – and the next victim may be Spider-Man himself!

    ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #125



    Writer: Brian Michael Bendis
    Artist: Stuart Immonen

    The Story: The high-flying Beetle has sliced off a tentacle of the slavering symbiote called Venom – but what does he want with it? Howling in pain, Venom gives chase to his tormentor through the streets of Manhattan, catching the attention of a certain wall-crawler. And when all three combatants come together, what occurs is so shocking, so unexpected, it could only happen in the book in which anything can happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guerillacropoli View Post
    I just read this issue, and I'm trying to figure out if it's all a flashback. Is this arc just a rehash of the videogame?

    The Ultimate version of the Beetle kicks ass.
    I got the same feeling reading that issue! All of the sudden, it seemed like an exact translation of the video game

    I don't care for the Ultimate Beetle though. Villains that never utter even a single word and just fly around causing havoc seem pretty dull to me.
    So far, this storyline manages to remain interesting. I love Immonen's depiction of [Eddie Brock] Venom! It's on pretty much the same level as Bagley's was back in the first appearance IMO But I hate the way Bendis is depicting his attitude; all he does is talk like Doomsday and eat people [gah, that even sounds silly typing it], so after he ate that scientist and the cop[?] I was starting to dislike this arc...
    But then we got the final splash page with the Venom symbiote attached to Peter and well, that was kinda cool

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