Student expelled for fictional dream

[RZetlin]

Student expelled over diary

The Fulton County school system on Friday temporarily rescinded the expulsion of a Roswell High School freshman who wrote a fictional tale in her private journal about a student who dreams she kills a teacher.

This remind me of Iraqi documentary that I saw where Saddam executed a soccer captain and placed his soccer team in jail because the captain had a dream of being the Iraqi President and his team mates where his counsel members.

In both cases with the school journal and the Iraqi documentary, nobody was using their common sense.

[Nightflower]

In the article they said they rescinded the expulsion.

A couple of years ago, a student around here was suspended/expelled for writing a play for Drama in which a student blows up a school.

[Ben]

Please title your threads better. They're misleading 75% of the time.

[RZetlin]

Please title your threads better. They're misleading 75% of the time.

What do you mean? The student did get expelled over a dream that is not real.

[SlyBoy]

What do you mean? The student did get expelled over a dream that is not real.

But it's not a dream. It was an entry in her diary, not an actual dream.

[JLApe]

What do you mean? The student did get expelled over a dream that is not real.

The article is titled "Student expelled over diary". Your title says "Student expelled for fictional dream". Explain to me how both titles meant the same thing. How do you come to the conclusion that diary = fictional dream? Or that the diary is not a factor of consideration. This is a news article, not an anime cartoon.

And what about the title thread you made up about a girl that got arrested for eating a French fry? Explain that! Reading the title alone, it sounds like it's about eating French fries being a criminal offense, but the news article you posted contradicts that.

You're no better than the cases of the school journal and the Iraqi documentary. You are not using common sense.

[czyznyck99]

The diary entry was about a fictional dream put into a diary. And it was the fictional dream that got her expelled, not the diary as a whole. The thread title is fine. If anyone isn't using "common sense" around here, it's you, JLApe, because it doesn't even look like you read the article. You are associating, incorrectly, RZetlin's apparent misquotes with his inabilty to "analyze" a situation. So here, I'll help you out.

The journal entry describes a student, who is unnamed, having a dream while asleep in class. In the dream, the student shoots a teacher and then runs out of the classroom, only to be killed by a security guard.

Later.

[Ben]

Was she actually expelled? Because the article was about the expulsion getting rescinded.

[czyznyck99]

Was she actually expelled? Because the article was about the expulsion getting rescinded.

There are two articles, one about the rescinded expulsion, and one about the original expulsion. She could go to another school for the rest of the year with that school's approval, and afterwards the first school will decide if they will let her return. But she was originally kicked out for at least a year. Now it looks like she can go back, which to me sounds just as bad. Now the entire school will recognize her as someone who fantasizes about killing teachers. She's an outcast, and by the time the year end she may very well wish that she had just left. Unless she becomes a cult hero, that is.

Later.

[Catlover]

I ment to post this story, but was to lazy.

Anyway, why did the art teacher keep the journal overnight? Why didn't he give it back to her after class? Even then, they still didn't use common sense. It doesn't sound like they checked to see if she had a history of being bullyed. It sounds like she came from a good family.

Now you know why I've homeschooled since I moved to Georgia.

There are two articles, one about the rescinded expulsion, and one about the original expulsion. She could go to another school for the rest of the year with that school's approval, and afterwards the first school will decide if they will let her return. But she was originally kicked out for at least a year. Now it looks like she can go back, which to me sounds just as bad. Now the entire school will recognize her as someone who fantasizes about killing teachers. She's an outcast, and by the time the year end she may very well wish that she had just left. Unless she becomes a cult hero, that is.

True. This expulsion will also go on her record, makeing it harder to get into college.

[RogueMartian]

Case #543567 of school's abuse of authority.

[Jedigreedo]

...why did the teacher look through her journal? It's none of the business. It'd be one thing to open it a bit to see if anything falls out that would be prohibitied in school, but to read it? Unwarranted search through personal items is illegal, and that teacher should be fined or sued.

Also what the heck is the point of suspending her? The mind tends to explore things in dreams that a person wouldn't actually do. Man those people are stupid, the teacher's probably a pervert as well.

[Digu Volz]

To you or I this behavior may appear a bit outrageous, but it's understandable tat nobody wants to take chances today. Not agreeable, but understandable.

[purplehairedwonder]

...why did the teacher look through her journal? It's none of the business. It'd be one thing to open it a bit to see if anything falls out that would be prohibitied in school, but to read it? Unwarranted search through personal items is illegal, and that teacher should be fined or sued.

I was thinking the same thing. The journal is private property and the teacher had no right to read it. If it were a paper turned in, or accidently turned in with homework or something like that, maybe, but that seems a little extreme. Besides a dream is a dream. I've dreamt that I was flying but that doesn't mean I can.

I also understand that in this day and age people are a little more edgy about things like that, but this seems over the top.

[Ben]

...why did the teacher look through her journal? It's none of the business. It'd be one thing to open it a bit to see if anything falls out that would be prohibitied in school, but to read it? Unwarranted search through personal items is illegal, and that teacher should be fined or sued.

Well, no. That's a common misconception. Teachers can look through anything for any reason. When minor students are at school the teachers and administrators are in loci parentis, so the students basically have the same rights that they have re: their parents at home.