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    spelling of knife vs. knives

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    I was pondering ( That's right pondering ) about this but why is the pural of kinfe spelled "K-N-I-V-E-S" instead of "K-N-I-F-E-S"?
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    Knife is an Irregular Noun.. so are Loaves, Wives, and ... Fish?

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    I was pondering ( That's right pondering ) about this but why is the pural of kinfe spelled "K-N-I-V-E-S" instead of "K-N-I-F-E-S"?
    Here's where you can find your answer to this Pondering question...

    Knife is what is known as 'an Irregular noun', in the english language, that when Pluralized, the word follows the Rule in List Number one (which you can find on the page), and thus words ending in 'f' or 'fe' are in fact spelled with an 'ves' on the end.

    so words like Leaf, Loaf, Elf, Wife, and others also fall under this same rule.
    So
    Leaf (Singular) Becomes Leaves (Plural)
    Loaf (Singular) becomes Loaves (Plural)
    Wife (Singular) becomes Wives (Plural)
    Calf (Singular) becomes Calves (Plural)
    Elf (Singular) Becomes Elves (Plural)


    Interestingly enough if you also look at these english rule lists you'll notice something rather interesting.

    Look at Rule List Five, (and this was in fact talked about Correctly in an Episode of Kim Possible (Naked Genius to be exact),

    (In that episode, Drakken asks Shego if the Plural form of Fish is 'Fish' or 'Fishes'... and the reply Shego gives back is in fact the correct Answer..)

    Shego: Fish or Fishes... Both are the correct plural form of the singular word (which is an 'Irregular' Noun) ... 'Fish'..

    And who says you can't learn something by watching cartoons...

    Edited Note: also here's another one.. Tomato..(Singular) in the plural form the word can end in -'oes' or 'os' so Tomato has both Tomatoes and Tomatos.as the plural form.(All of the words here are in fact.. Irregular nouns that when pluralized fall into those rules shown).


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    Quote Originally Posted by tucsoncoyote
    Edited Note: also here's another one.. Tomato..(Singular) in the plural form the word can end in -'oes' or 'os' so Tomato has both Tomatoes and Tomatos.as the plural form.
    But it still can't have tomatoe as a singular form. Sorry, Quayle. </outdated vice presidential diss>

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    What gets me is the word "spilt" as opposed to "spilled." If you can do that, why can't you say, "I was truly thrilt when I first tasted sushi?"

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    What I'm really wondering about is in the dictionary the past tense of "smell" is "smelled" or in Brtain "smelt". I live in the USA and I hear "smelt" way more than I hear "smelled"
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    Hey what about nemisis? What's the pural for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MEGA TON
    Hey what about nemisis? What's the pural for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Pepper
    What I'm really wondering about is in the dictionary the past tense of "smell" is "smelled" or in Brtain "smelt". I live in the USA and I hear "smelt" way more than I hear "smelled"
    I beleive this is regional. US English has something like 12 different dialects. I only hear "smelled" here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mynd Hed
    But it still can't have tomatoe as a singular form. Sorry, Quayle. </outdated vice presidential diss>
    Of course, that's how it was written on the actual card that he was trying to point out. Not how he actually thought it was spelled.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mynd Hed
    What gets me is the word "spilt" as opposed to "spilled." If you can do that, why can't you say, "I was truly thrilt when I first tasted sushi?"
    On a similar note, I've always wondered why the correct way is to say "he hanged himself" instead of "he hung himself." The second way just sounds more correct to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael24
    On a similar note, I've always wondered why the correct way is to say "he hanged himself" instead of "he hung himself." The second way just sounds more correct to me.
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    UK English vs US English

    It's rather Interesting to note that there are indeed some differences in both US and British (UK) English

    For Example The Word 'tire'(English and the word 'tyre' (British). Both mean the same thing but they are different.

    Then there are the variations .. Like A Truck (US) is a Lorry (UK) and a bathroom (US) is a Loo (UK)

    but then you have to thank Webster for all this..

    oh and Tomato (US) and Tomatoe (UK) are still the same fruit (Guess Quale wanted the kids to Learn UK English

    Then I look at the Irregular plural noun rules for words ending in -o.... For Example.. Tornado is the Singular, whereas Tornados or Tornadoes are both Correct Plural Forms of the Singular word.. (The Same Holds true for Tomatoes and Tomatos (which are the plural form of the singular word.. "Tomato"

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