DBZ Super Saturdays bump Scooby

[Dante Bunny]

here's the latest news from Vince


BEGINNING SATURDAY, OCTOBER 20
• SATURDAY AFTERNOONS
12:00 PM - Pup Named Scooby Doo (replaces Flintstones)
12:30 PM - New Scooby Doo Mysteries (replaces Jetsons)
1:00 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Scooby Where Are You)
1:30 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Scooby & Scrappy)
2:00 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces New Scooby Mysteries)
2:30 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Pup Named Scooby)



For all of the Scooby fans, there're still some Scooby shows like a Pup Named Scooby Doo and New Scooby Mysteries.

[The Dork Knight]

Originally posted by G.I. D'oh!
For all of the Scooby fans, there're still some Scooby shows like a Pup Named Scooby Doo and New Scooby Mysteries.

I don't even think there are any Scooby fans here anyway.....

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

SAID BY GOTLUCKY64: I don't even think there are any Scooby fans here anyway.....

You got THAT right! :D

Personally, I'd like to see DBZ, but I can't. In any event, even if I can't see it, I'd like to comend CN for showing intelligence and not airing Scooby so much. Let's hope they make a Dexter marathon next! :D

[Joe Tully]

I'm not a big DBZ fan, but anything that decreases the amount of Scooby in the universe is a good thing.

[CookieS]

That's odd that they would put on DBZ in the middle of the day like that. Will it be part of Toonami?

[PeppeRaskell1]

Originally posted by G.I. D'oh!
here's the latest news from Vince


BEGINNING SATURDAY, OCTOBER 20
• SATURDAY AFTERNOONS
12:00 PM - Pup Named Scooby Doo (replaces Flintstones)
12:30 PM - New Scooby Doo Mysteries (replaces Jetsons)
1:00 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Scooby Where Are You)
1:30 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Scooby & Scrappy)
2:00 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces New Scooby Mysteries)
2:30 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Pup Named Scooby)



For all of the Scooby fans, there're still some Scooby shows like a Pup Named Scooby Doo and New Scooby Mysteries.

It's about time! I was wondering how many more times I'd have to look at the TV Guide grid and see "Scooby, Scooby, Scooby" on Saturdays and not break into a sing-song voice while reading it.

BTW, I had an inkling CN would do something with
DBZ when I read it made the Top 20 Cable shows
almost as many times as "SpongeBob?" (Nick wants to cancel this show as many times it's made the
Top 20 Cable? They've been watching too much "Rugrats"!):p

[Dante Bunny]

Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1

Nick wants to cancel this show as many times it's made the
Top 20 Cable? They've been watching too much "Rugrats"!):p


Man, Rugrats and Scooby Doo are so played out.:p

I want to say rock on to Spongebob, Dexter, Powerpuff Girls, Batman Beyond, Histeria (that show deserves to be back on the air!), and DBZ.

[Maxie Zeus]

Well, I'm a Scooby fan, but even I think it's played WAY too much. Thank goodness they're cutting back.

[ChuckRoast]

I think Cartoon Network had finally listened to the fans and decided to cuyt back Scooby Doo. I hope they don't overplay DBZ, though...

[Garrett]

Originally posted by Gotlucky64


I don't even think there are any Scooby fans here anyway.....

*coughs* Excuse me?

Garrett

[RockItShipper]

Of course, there may well be a Scooby marathon when the movie comes out. Tho' Josie and the Pussycats just got a superchunk one afternoon on CN this past spring.

[LD1984]

I can live without Scooby Doo, The new adventures of Scooby doo, Scooby and Scrappy, The New New adventures of Scooby doo, Scooby movies, A pup named Scooby doo and all that poo. They made too much Scooby.

[Garrett]

Originally posted by LD1984
I can live without Scooby Doo, The new adventures of Scooby doo, Scooby and Scrappy, The New New adventures of Scooby doo, Scooby movies, A pup named Scooby doo and all that poo. They made too much Scooby.

That's the H-B way: milk something until it starts to bleed, and then keep milking it until it's dead. You forgot to mention all the 70s shows (including Josie and Jabberjaw) that ripped off the Scooby-Doo "formula"-those are truly awful. *sighs* And people call Filmation cheap...... :rolleyes:

Garrett

[Dub]

At least Scooby was fun and doesnt take itself seriously anymore....to a point anyway.....I certainly wont miss it or anything remotely involving Scrappy Doo

But Filmation....Filmation scares me... ^____^


I do have fond memories of he-Man though....but the other stuff? BRRRRRRRRR ^________^

[Nftnat]

For those who don't know, would you believe Ruegger & Dini used to write for Phlegmation? What can I say, one night last year I was bored, so I started looking, & a few minutes later I was looking @ some Masters of the Universe credits with some very familiar names.

[Garrett]

Originally posted by Nftnat
For those who don't know, would you believe Ruegger & Dini used to write for Phlegmation?

FILMATION had a history of talent-real talent. Voice actors such as Frank Welker (Heckle & Jeckle, Droopy), Alan Oppenheimer (Skeletor, Man-At-Arms), Linda Gary (Teela, the Sorceress, Glimmer), Robert Ridgely (Tarzan), George DiCenzo (Hordak), Erika Scheimer (Frosta, Queen Angella), and Lou Scheimer (Dumb Donald, Trap Jaw, Tri-Klops, and Orko) were joined in the credits over the years by Paul Dini, Bob Forward, Larry DiTillio, Micael Reaves, Buzz Dixon, Gwen Wetzler, Hal Sutherland, J. Michael Stracynski, and Tom Tataronwicz. I'd say that one could (and did) make a lot of great hours of animation with people like that working behind the scenes.

Besides, if Filmation is such a poor studio, then why is it that many of the artists from The New Adventures of Superman (the first Filmation cartoon of the 1960s) listed in the credits of the (quite poorly animated, IMO) New Scooby-Doo Mysteries in 1973 (produced by the "superior" Hanna-Barbera studio), and retained through at least the early Scrappy era?

Garrett

[The Mad Hatter]

Besides, if Filmation is such a poor studio, then why is it that many of the artists from The New Adventures of Superman (the first Filmation cartoon of the 1960s) listed in the credits of the (quite poorly animated, IMO) New Scooby-Doo Mysteries in 1973 (produced by the "superior" Hanna-Barbera studio), and retained through at least the early Scrappy era?


(reading the sentence)

(reading the sentence again)

Um, I think you're missing a key verb there. Are you saying that the talent from the Superman show went to Scooby-Doo? If so, that doesn't help your argument... that indicates a mass exocdus from Filmation.

I'll have to agree that most Scooby series were quite crap, but I'd have to say that the real lack of quality award goes to filmation. Not only was the animation bad, but so were the scripts and characters, for the most part. At least Scooby was an interesting character...

[Singin' Stray Cat]

I'm a teensy bit worried about DBZ replacing Scooby though - I'm not a huge fan of either show, but does this mean that now DBZ will be overplayed?

[Dub]

I'm a teensy bit worried about DBZ replacing Scooby though - I'm not a huge fan of either show, but does this mean that now DBZ will be overplayed?

What do you think? :D

I'm a fan of DBZ, but even most fans of it and Toonami do talk about the "overplayedness" of it at times. Its never reached the phenonomenon of Scooby Doo bad though and probably never will. I wont mind so much if they start at the beginning (The Raditz saga) and MAYBE the current Saiyaman saga arc. But if they start at the Frieza or Cell Saga arcs again I can guarantee you people will flip. :P They havent aired the Raditz saga on CN since late 1999 - but back then they overplayed that part two so I guess its a darned if you do, darned if you dont deal. Hopefully though, this will lead to maybe more variety in action oriented shows in that two hour block in the long run...


As for Filmation - it is true that they did have talent. But the big difference between HB and Filmation is that HB's bad was at least somewhat watchable. The animation may not have been enough to send spasms of joy across the planet and some plots were thinner than chicken broth - but the majority of thier charcters were likeable and endearing no matter how milked or cloned they may be. My mother acknowledges that Josie And The Pussycats was a Scooby clone - but she says she used to watch it religiously when she was smaller. Older people remember that stuff and some of the characters.


Even the widely abhorred Scrappy Doo does have a very very small fanbase...

You dont hear ANY of that with the Groovy Goolies. :P He-Man, She-Ra, Bravestarr, Fat Albert and a few others have really stood the test of time character wise - but when Filmation did bad: they were RENOWNED for doing REALLLY REAAALLLY BAD :rolleyes:

They weren't the Great Animation Evil, but a large majority of thier stuff really stank from what little I remember. Brady Kids, Archie, etc etc **shrungs**


Question - didnt Filmation used to do updated versions of Mighty Mouse/Heckle and Jeckle as well?

[LightAngel]

Not more DBZ!!! I'm sick of Scooby Doo, but putting on more DBZ isn't the answer. That's all Toonami ever seems to play anymore. Maybe they should just pick a different show that no one has seen in awhile.

[James Harvey]

Maybe CN could do a rotating Saturday thing. Use that couple hours of time to spotlight any given show, currently on the CN schedule or not. CN has this vcast, vast library of shows, yet is barely using 50% of them.

[Joe Tully]

Yeah, they need to re-institute SuperChunk. That way they can have something different every week and please everyone. Show Cow and Chicken one week, Bugs Bunny the next, then Huckleberry Hound, Dexter, 2 Stupid Dogs, Freakazoid, etc. The crappy SuperChunks were always made up for by great ones featuring better, and sometimes rarer cartoons. I dunno if they'd want to put old HB stuff on there now with their strict division between Boomerang and CN, but they should do it at least once in a while.

[Dub]

The proof is in the pudding - if this schedules true its officially a Toonami owned block called "Super Saturdays" with DBZ as its test subject. Check this CN Toonami schedule out:

http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/toonami/schedule/

Any word on what the movie lineup will be this time? they usually always start with Dead Zone, but I head we should HOPEFULLY get the Sailor Moon movies by late October/very early November...


What was the Saturday action block called back before Toonami showed up on CN - when they aired Centurions and Plastic Man? I forget... :P

[Jeff Harris]

Originally posted by Jon "WB" Gray
What was the Saturday action block called back before Toonami showed up on CN - when they aired Centurions and Plastic Man? I forget... :P

Super Adventures.

It was the first action-oriented block on Cartoon Network, premiering on day one, October 1, 1992 (wonder if we'll get a good anniversary present on that day). The weekend installments retained that moniker until late 1998. The weekday installments have evolved over time with various names including . . .

Super Adventures (1992-1994)
Adventure Afternoons (1994-1995)
Power Zone (1996)

After a brief hiatus from action programming in the fall of 1996, the action block was reignited and revamped on March 17, 1997.

We call it Toonami.

[James Harvey]

I'd like to see Toonami expanded more. Having it 7 days a week would be something so...beautiful. nd the weekend shows would be different from the weekday. We could perhaps gets Voltron and Robotech back. Maybe even He-Man, Batman, or Superman? The possibilities are endless if they only get their head sout of their arses.

[Sailor Saturn]

Originally posted by Jon "WB" Gray
The proof is in the pudding - if this schedules true its officially a Toonami owned block called "Super Saturdays" with DBZ as its test subject. Check this CN Toonami schedule out:

http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/toonami/schedule/

Any word on what the movie lineup will be this time? they usually always start with Dead Zone, but I head we should HOPEFULLY get the Sailor Moon movies by late October/very early November...


What was the Saturday action block called back before Toonami showed up on CN - when they aired Centurions and Plastic Man? I forget... :P

Sailor Moon? heh. I really doubt CN will air her again...:(

[Nftnat]

The others I see as possibilities, but not He-Man. That is a Filmation show, & I believe I remember hearing that the Filmation library is under contract to the Hallmark Channel, formerly Odyssey. Altho a few Filmation shows did show up on TV Land awhile back. It's where I got my copies of some of the Star Trek animated series from. If Masters of the Universe airs, it will probably be on one of those two channels. And I don't get one of them yet. *sigh*

[James Harvey]

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn


Sailor Moon? heh. I really doubt CN will air her again...:(

Why did CN pull the plug on her?

[Jimmy Kustes]

It's good to see CN lay off the Scooby, but what is the CN Originals block on Sundays about? It was posted in the toonzone news form I think. Personally I would like to see Pink Panther, O Canada, ect. in place of DBZ, but at least it's a start. Did they rename SuperChunck as CartoonOlio because it was politically incorrect to have a fat cartoon character promote it?

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by duncanzits
It's good to see CN lay off the Scooby, but what is the CN Originals block on Sundays about? It was posted in the toonzone news form I think. Personally I would like to see Pink Panther, O Canada, ect. in place of DBZ, but at least it's a start. Did they rename SuperChunck as CartoonOlio because it was politically incorrect to have a fat cartoon character promote it?

SuperChunk was gone for several months...They probably didn't name the new block SuperChunk because they didn't want people to ask why SuperChunk didn't have any of the cool classic toons on it anymore. They were probably hoping people would forget good ole SuperChunk.

[Jimmy Kustes]

Agreed. I don't know why they show Cow and Chicken and Scooby Cartoon Olios for months straight. If they are going to show a month of marathons of the same toon then they should pick something that doesn't get much air time like Space Ghost Coast to Coast.

[James Harvey]

That would be a great way for certain shows to get some airtime. Then again, will they get the ratings?

[bad0216]

just to bad it is just a repete of the week

[killercroc]

Originally posted by G.I. D'oh!



Man, Rugrats and Scooby Doo are so played out.:p

I want to say rock on to Spongebob, Dexter, Powerpuff Girls, Batman Beyond, Histeria (that show deserves to be back on the air!), and DBZ.

You left out Invader Zim, IMO the best cartoon that's currently in production.

[James Harvey]

The upside to this is less Scooby. But, then again, we all all Wednesday dedicated to the dog...guh...

[Elven Moon]

More DBZ? Mph.. aren't they "overplaying" it a bit? I mean, Toonami is practically nothing *but* DBZ... and now we get more? Why no Sailor Moon (much as I loath the dub) or Tenchi Muyo? How about those? I'd like to see Tenchi back on, very much so. Just how much of watching people flex their muscles, fly around, and yell stuff can a girl watch? ;)

Oh well... at least we won't get so much Scooby Doo. I used to be a fan, but now, I really don't care for it as much. I'll be catching the movie next summer though, and see how it is.

[Jimmy Kustes]

Let me be the first to welcome you to Toonzone Elven Moon!
There aren't enough female cartoon fans! ;)

[Sharklady]

> Just how much of watching people flex their muscles, fly around, and yell stuff can a girl watch? <

Don't forget all that scowling.

[The Mad Hatter]

...and powering up for upwards of five minutes at a stretch.

[James Harvey]

And grunting! All they do is grunt!

[LightAngel]

Hey, who else laughs every time the Toonami commercial comes on saying, "Not enough DBZ..." Every time I feel like throwing something at my tv.

[Firefly]

Originally posted by Jon "WB" Gray
we should HOPEFULLY get the Sailor Moon movies by late October/very

arn't they airing Salior Moon on Nov.2 as an In-Flight movie?

[Singin' Stray Cat]

Originally posted by Firefly


arn't they airing Salior Moon on Nov.2 as an In-Flight movie?

I saw a commercial for Sailor Moon R today, so it certainly looks like they're going to air it...don't know what that means for the series itself, though.

[Jowy Blight]

Hey, who else laughs every time the Toonami commercial comes on saying, "Not enough DBZ..." Every time I feel like throwing something at my tv.

I love the Dragonball series, but I do feel they are overplaying it a bit. I don't want it to go down the path of Pokemon, but at least that stupid dog won't be on as much.

What I wouldn't give to see Yu Yu Hakusho playing on CN.

[Dee]

it seems to me that every time I turn the TV on, DBZ is on. Is there anything ELSE that ever plays?