If you were Bruce Timm...

[_Joker_]

What would you do for Justice League?

I WOULD:

Replace John Stewart with Kyle Rayner

[randomguy]

If I were Bruce Timm, I'd be scared out of my mind. My God, the responsibilty.

And, of course, there's always us, the fans, ready to pounce on Timm if something goes wrong. I'm not sure that's a life I'd want.

[Squall]

I agree with 95% of what Bruce Timm & Co. have done from the beginning of Batman:TAS up to JL today. The few JL exceptions would be:

(1) Have Superman beat up Mongul in the climax of "War World"
(2) Omit "Eclipsed" altogether :)
(3) I would have only had the five villians in the 'Kill Superman Cult' as the guest villians in "Hereafter". I enjoyed the episode, but the appearances of a few of the guest villians -- Volcana and Star Sapphire, most notably -- just seemed not to fit for some reason. Volcana and Star Sapphire don't strike me as the type of villians to randomly destroy property for no reason at all... I could believe that Copperhead, Deadshot, and villians like Solomon Grundy would mindlessly destroy property for fun, however.

That's about it. Like I said, I love 95% of what Timm & Co. have done over the years. :D

P.S. -- I don't want to see the JL add, subtract, or replace any members. The JL has quite an impressive roster of 'bench members' (to use a sports term) as it is!

[Eddie G.]

I honestly felt that Deadshot seemed out of place. Although I loved the line, "Bang your dead."

If I were Bruce Timm, I would make more stand alone episodes. Create sometype of JL reserve team. It would be cool to have the Atom experimenting in the Watchtower or for the JL to call Captain Marvel and Plastic Man for back up. I would downplay minor links to B:TAS and S:TAS but add more major links to the previous series. I would introduce the concept of the GL and Flash legacy. And a guest spot for the JL Unlimited would be awesome.

By the way, isn't there a member called b.t. who kind of pops up every know and then sounding like he is part of the show. Maybe he is the 'One'.

[Squall]

I honestly felt that Deadshot seemed out of place. Although I loved the line, "Bang your dead."

If I were Bruce Timm, I would make more stand alone episodes. Create sometype of JL reserve team. It would be cool to have the Atom experimenting in the Watchtower or for the JL to call Captain Marvel and Plastic Man for back up. I would downplay minor links to B:TAS and S:TAS but add more major links to the previous series. I would introduce the concept of the GL and Flash legacy. And a guest spot for the JL Unlimited would be awesome.

By the way, isn't there a member called b.t. who kind of pops up every know and then sounding like he is part of the show. Maybe he is the 'One'.

Non-comics book reader question: How can there be a legacy for the Flash when his powers were the result of a random laboratory accident? :confused:

Deadshot seemed out of place to me too, at first -- but when I saw him and Copperhead robbing a jewelry store, I remembered that Deadshot was really into asassinations just for the money. He's not a sophisticate like Batman Beyond's Curare. But Star Sapphire and Volcana, randomly blowing up and burning down buildings just for fun? THAT seemed out of place to me... :shrug:

[Eddie G.]

Non-comics book reader question: How can there be a legacy for the Flash when his powers were the result of a random laboratory accident? :confused:
Let's just say that it wasn't exactly random. I believe the speed force which is what the Flash gets his speed from actually choose him the silver age Flash, Barry Allen, and the Flash before him to become the Flash.

Actually in the comic book universe there is a whole blood line of flashes that go through the future centuries.

And if you count Impulse (Kid Flash) there are currently three flash characters in the comics.

I'm not too big on the Flash comics, so correct me where needed anyone.

[Cyber E.]

If Me = Bruce Timm?

Just kill off Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash and Hawkgirl and replace them with Blue Bettle, Booster Gold, Black Canary, Guy Gardner and Dr. Fate and move them to Ohio.

THE WACKINESS WRITES ITSELF.

[DC Bullet]

I like the show just the way it is. I would probably have something happen to the Watchtower and have the team move into a mountain headquarters like they did in the JLA comic.

[Supremus]

If I were Bruce Timm, I would say phase 1 of my fiendish plan was complete, and I would move on to wreck the Marvel Universe :)

To be fair, though, I very much doubt that Bruce Timm is the person to blame for the problems with Justice League. On paper, a lot of the things they are trying to do with the show don't look too bad, it's once the writers, animators, storyboarders, etc, get to work that things take a turn for the worse.

Bad writing aside, I think there are technical problems with JL that Timm, as an artist himself, should have a look at. I don't think the transition to digital ink and paint has been a smooth, or even a succesful one. The show has lost a lot of the richness that BTAS, STAS, and even BB had for a while. Now computer gradients, lens flares, and poorly integrated CG models, make the show look quite messy and inconsistent. It sort of reminds me of the early 90s when DC and Marvel switched to the Image-style slick paper and digital coloring. It was terrible, and it took them several years to figure out how to do it right. Most animated shows and movies are produced digitally these days, and many of them look as good, if not better, than those produced with traditional techniques, so it's time for JL to catch up. It was quite shocking to see that Static's artists managed to create a much better looking Watchtower interior than the flat and boring one the regular JL "artists" always deliver.

Basically, I think there are a lot of weak links in the JL chain, but Timm may just be the strong link that's keeping it all from falling apart. Gone are the days where Timm, Dini, Burnett, and a bunch of great writers and artists, became more than the sum of their parts. These days the JL team are struggling not to become less.

Maybe the magic of BTAS, and to a lesser extent STAS, can never be recaptured, so the best Timm can hope to do is keep the quality of JL consistent. Season 2 was off to a promising start, but they really dropped the ball after peaking with A Better World.

[randomguy]

Non-comics book reader question: How can there be a legacy for the Flash when his powers were the result of a random laboratory accident?

As Blue Wolf said, the accident was only seemingly random. In the DCU, all of the Flashes draw their power from a kind of ethereal force called the Speed Force. Although it's never been fully explained, it's been hinted at that this force is sentient, and has been choosing its subjects in a specific manner, for reasons we don't yet know.

I'm not sure introducing heritage into JL really makes sense, especially in the case of the Flashes. I know of 4 incarnations of the Flash (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong her):

-The Golden Age Flash, Jay Garrick, currently a member of the JSA. You couldn't use him, because he'd be too similiar to the Speedster who already appeared as a JGA member in "Legends". Additionally, there hasn't been any word of any superheroes existing prior to the JL time, so we have no reason to assume that the DCAU had superheroes in the 40's era.
-The Silver Age Flash, Barry Allen, who died in Crisis On Infinite Earths. Although I think the Flash we see on JL should be the first and only, I'm not opposed to having Barry Allen as the uncle of Wally West. After all, it's hard to imagine the Flash we see on the show as a scientist, so his backstory would make more sense if the experiment that gave him his powers was being conducted by somebody else. Barry Allen would be the logical choice for that role. You could keep intact his heroism and dignity, he just wouldn't be the Flash. Works for me. Kind of a Steve Trevor thing.
-The current Flash, Wally West, who served as Kid Flash in the Teen Titans alongside that group's most familiar incarnation (Dick Grayson Robin, Starfire, Raven, Beast Boy, Cyborg, etc.), and who took his uncle's place in the JLA after the Crisis. The creative team has specifically told us that their Flash is the Wally West incarnation. As I've said previously, I think his origins would make the most sense if the lab accident that created him was being performed by Barry Allen. That way, you'd have some amount of heritage without cluttering up the DCAU.
-Impulse, recently christened as Kid Flash in the pages of Geoff Johns' new "Teen Titans" series. He'll likely assume the Flash mantle someday, once Wally outgrows the role. He obviously won't show up on JL, though a Teen Titans apperance is not out of the question.

In other words, there's really not a lot you can do with the Flash's heritage. Green Lantern is pretty much the same. Hal Jordan would be cluttering at this point, we already have Kyle Rayner and John Stewart, Guy Gardner is possible though I don't think he's necessary, and there's sadly not really a place for Alan Scott (the Golden Age Green Lantern who served in Gotham and was recreated almost exactly as the Green Guardsman in "Legends").

[Enchantress]

I would finally materialise at least *ONE* of the Poison Ivy stories which have been written, but which Bruce Timm hasn't given the greenlight to be made into an actual episode. He's kept those stories shelved for like 2 years now, and if the Joker, Harley Quinn, Firefly et. al and the better half of Superman's villains can make it into the show, why not Poison Ivy, one of the Dark Knight's most formidable foes?

Also, I'd have Aresia make a second appearance, maybe assisted by Hera or Ares, this time!!! Now *THAT* would be cool and really great to watch...

I would also have an episode in which Catwoman, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Star Sapphire, Aresia, Tsukuri, Volcana, Morgan Le Fey et. al all clash with each other, and members of the Justice League find themselves having to intervene before all the aforementioned villainesses wreak havoc not only amongst themselves, but also on the world as a whole.
I honestly can't think of *ANYTHING* that would satisfy me more than to see how Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Roxy Rocket et. al interact with the likes of Aresia, Star Sapphire, Morgan Le Fey, Tsukuri and co.
Now wouldn't *THAT* be a sight?
I can only imagine what Catwoman would think of Aresia's plans to wipe the male population off the face of the earth, or what a great team Star Sapphire and Roxy Rocket would make, for example.... :)

[Bird Boy]

If I were Bruce Timm, I'd be scared out of my mind. My God, the responsibilty.

And, of course, there's always us, the fans, ready to pounce on Timm if something goes wrong. I'm not sure that's a life I'd want.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Must be hell to put up with our whiney asses. :p

Years from now, we'll look back on Justice League, while watching what ever DCAU cartoon is now airing, and we'll realize how good, even some of the poorer episodes, were, compared to the piece of crap we're watching. It's the same thing that happened with Batman Beyond--back when it aired, "Heroes" and "Rats!" were dogged to hell, and now you hear nothing about them cause we have something new to complain about.

Such a vicious cycle...

-BB

[Jimbo]

I would laugh maniacally as I rolled around in all the money I made from those fools who hynotically watch and purchase whatever I put my precious name on.

After that I would consider doing the following:

(01) I would have Lois Lane find out Superman is Clark Kent;
(02) I would have a touching story where Hawkgirl and John Stewart are both sucked into a black hole never to be seen again...so Kyle Raynor and Aquaman can join the League and form the Big Seven;
(03) I would make Batman more of a main character, he's only the most popular hero in the DCAU, with heart felt spotlight episodes such as "The Dark Knight get's his Princess";
(04) I would make Ra's Al Ghul, and Doomsday two of the villains shown in Season 3;
(05) I would make President Luthor the man in the shadows pulling the strings;
(06) I would show more Secret Identities;
(07) I would show more episodes with just two or three characters like the crossovers from the good old days on Batman: TAS and Superman: TAS;

[TheWonderTwits]

If I were B.T., I mean, bruce timm ;)

1. I'd pat myself on the back for delivering a kick arse season 2
2. I'd collect hella-merchandising checks as the JL figures are selling out.
3. For those that have nothing better to do than flame my shows in various forums, I'd do what Jay & Silent Bob did at the end of Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back :D ...then, I'd secretly subscribe those folks to heaps of unmentionable newsgroups (heh heh).
4. I'd gather all the other WB/DC gods and goddesses to do an entire DC animated movie, including Kingdom Come. I'd have Shirley Walker return to scoring it as well.

Um.. that would be about it :)

[Nin-Nin69]

If Me = Bruce Timm?

Just kill off Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash and Hawkgirl and replace them with Blue Bettle, Booster Gold, Black Canary, Guy Gardner and Dr. Fate and move them to Ohio.

THE WACKINESS WRITES ITSELF.

Isn't that an episode for Season 3?

[jadrax]

I would redo that gad-awful justice league intro ;o)

And make about 25 more series....

[_Joker_]

I think a few of you got the wrong impression of what I'm saying:

I don't blame Bruce Timm for anything. In fact I probably wouldn't change anything. But what I'm saying is, since he's the 'head honcho' of the DCUA universe, (Not Including Teen Titans) I thought it would be cool to here your opinions on how they should/might/may have changed the show for the better/worse.

PHEW! :sweat:

Anyway, here is a few more things i would do:

1) Animated Movie (Either the 'End Of the Justice League' type thing or 'Justice:REVENGE!' type thing. Maybe APOCOLYPSE NOW! type thing or Kingdom Come.

2) Have the TASK FORCE be introduced. (Black Canary, The Atom, Dr. Fate, Kyle Rayner*, Aquaman, Green Arrow)

*= I don't know how having Kyle have such a big role would effect the GL continuity. Since Star Sapphire is supposed to be a Hal Jordan villain, and Hal's not even in JL Animated!!! Just an example of messed up storyline. :rolleyes:

[Sue]

I agree, Joker, an animated movie would rock! I'd probably make it a DTV instead of a theatrical release.

[Mysteryinfoman]

If I was Bruce, well as BB said, it would be a really tough job and all to make a show with seven chracters, villians etc.

But for the fun of it, I would have
taken away the snake story in Eclipsed and make a different origin story for the crystal.
I would have a on going plot beginning from season 1.
I would not put so much guest stars in an episode or maybe even a season.
Make up original villians more often but at the same time use villians that are already established.

[DianaGohan]

If I were Bruce Timm, I'd be rich...

And probably let a temporay member on the Justice League so the fans would stop whining about that.

[Mynd Hed]

And probably let a temporay member on the Justice League so the fans would stop whining about that.

Yeah, right, like that would stop anything. That would just lead to a whole new brand of whining.

Poster 1: Why does X Superhero get to be a temp member, when Y and Z Superheroes are so much cooler? Better yet, they should've used A, B, or C Superheroine to even out the guy / girl ratio!

Poster 2: Yeah, that would be so cool, then B Superheroine and MM could hook up!

....

(-:

[HelloKittyKat]

I would:

Add new members, but only one or two. The Atom fills the scientific role so much better than Batman

Mix up single part stories with two parters. This will give us more stories as well as cut back on filler.

Bring in Grant Morrison as a story editor

Treat The Flash with respect.

Beyond that, it's all good.

[Alba Aulbath]

Choice A: Retire and laze about in fame and heckle old women on the sidewalk.

Choice B: In all seriousness (what? serious? where?) I might not change much with anything, because I, in all, really love what's been done and being done with JL. Probably only really press for a movie (animated, of course) and maybe make myself happy and finally write something that takes Flash a bit more seriously. XP But for the fans, definitely a movie.

Choice C: Heckle more old women.

[Fernus]

If I were Bruce Timm, I would:

A: Stop making Batman seem like a god. He isn't, as some people would love to believe.

B: Dump the guest stars. Not all, of course, but seven guest stars a season? No way. I'd narrow it down to two or three.

C: Stop with all the Batman and Superman villains. Bring in some more of the Lesser Four's (and some true WW villains). Also, bring more original. We had the Invaders/Imperium, Aresia, Justice Lords. Along those lines.

D: Plan a JL animated movie (still long for a "Return of the Invaders" story)

E: Never bring JLA:Year One (betrayal story line), or Tower of Babel into JL:TAS.

[Knight]

Ok now that im Bruce Tim I...

1. Make Wonder Woman a little tougher shes getting beat down too easily.

2. Have J'onn actually dish out some punishment. He's not on the level he should be either.

3. Take some of the fights out of Metropolis.

[Sue]

E: Never bring JLA:Year One (betrayal story line), or Tower of Babel into JL:TAS.

Isn't the season finale along those lines?

[Green-Ghost]

I would finally materialise at least *ONE* of the Poison Ivy stories which have been written, but which Bruce Timm hasn't given the greenlight to be made into an actual episode. He's kept those stories shelved for like 2 years now, and if the Joker, Harley Quinn, Firefly et. al and the better half of Superman's villains can make it into the show, why not Poison Ivy, one of the Dark Knight's most formidable foes?



...ME TOO...
You speak out of my soul :D

[Knight]

Another thing id do is introduce another way to get to the watchtower other than the one ship they appear to have becuase it makes no sense whatsoever. If the whole team except say Flash is on a mission and hes on Earth how is he supposed to get to the Watchtower? At The least they need to all have Boom Tubes or some other kind of teleporters. We have yet to see anyone besides GL fly there.