View Full Version : DC Animated Battle #3: Battle of the Ages
Eddie G.
12-17-2003, 09:26 PM
Well Bane is now a finly crushed powder thanks to Grundy. But here we got a new battle, another bad guy vs. bad guy fight... Ra's Al Ghul vs. Vandel Savage.
Now before I see the word immortal, please read the rules, here we go: Since both fighters have a tendency not to die, the winner will be declared by whoever can make the other either dead of incapacitated for one month. This battle will not be a hand to hand combat battle, rather is more of an epic feud. Both are allowed to use all their resources for this feud, and they both understand who the other is and that the other will try to kill them. So who will win?
I hope this is more interesting than last week's.
All-Star 1.5
12-17-2003, 10:53 PM
Vandal Savage would win because Ra's depends on the Lazarus Pitts to remain strong, immortal, and young(which may not last much longer) and Vandal doesn't(see Maid Of Honor). Besides all of that Vandal is more experinced I mean he's like 30,000 years old in which he has been countless rulers and dictators and as made lots of attempts to take over the world and Ra's is like 600 years old and has not come close to taking over the world in a while.
David the Joker
12-17-2003, 11:08 PM
Vandal Savage would win because Ra's depends on the Lazarus Pitts to remain strong, immortal, and young(which may not last much longer) and Vandal doesn't(see Maid Of Honor). Besides all of that Vandal is more experinced I mean he's like 30,000 years old in which he has been countless rulers and dictators and as made lots of attempts to take over the world and Ra's is like 600 years old and has not come close to taking over the world in a while.
I agree, Savage could just destroy all the Lazarus Pits (it might take awhile, but he would, he does have all the time in the world). Ra's would try his hardest using all of his men to destroy Savage but nothing would stop him. (If Ra's was smart) he would capture Savage and send him into the sun (corny? yes!, but would it work? sure!) Overall, Savage has the advange in this battle because of his years of wit and treachery and seemly cant be destroyed.
Eddie G.
12-17-2003, 11:15 PM
I agree, Savage could just destroy all the Lazarus Pits (it might take awhile, but he would, he does have all the time in the world). Ra's would try his hardest using all of his men to destroy Savage but nothing would stop him. (If Ra's was smart) he would capture Savage and send him into the sun (corny? yes!, but would it work? sure!) Overall, Savage has the advange in this battle because of his years of wit and treachery and seemly cant be destroyed.
Savage was brought down by Batman easily. He might be immortal but he has shown little signs of being super strong and he can be hurt. So I really doubt all of Ra's's Grunts and assassins couldn't bring him down for at least a day is unlikely. And then it would only be a matter of containing him.
I'd lke to see Ra's or Savage fight Neron. Hell, the Justice League for that matter. It doesn't get any worse than taking on the Devil himself.
David the Joker
12-17-2003, 11:36 PM
Savage was brought down by Batman easily. He might be immortal but he has shown little signs of being super strong and he can be hurt. So I really doubt all of Ra's's Grunts and assassins couldn't bring him down for at least a day is unlikely. And then it would only be a matter of containing him.
That's true, Savage is not super strong, or maybe he is. With his big ego, he must think that the JL are just weak oppentents, that they dont deserve seeing his true power(which could be strengh or whatever). If he fights someone like Ra's he would be forced to so his true power, because Ra's and his allies are really strong and a true threat. This is a stretch, but could be the truth behind Vandel Savage. Also, Savage could also hide pretty well and have his men destory the Lazarus Pits, so he alone could take on an old and weak Ra's and then destroy him.
Jade_GL
12-17-2003, 11:38 PM
I had to vote for Vandal Savage.
Though he has no enhanced strength, he does have genius level intelligence and, if you hadn't been paying attention beforehand, cannot be killed. He is immortal, so no matter how many assassins you send, it doesn't matter, he's immortal and cannot be killed. Though he can be contained, I suppose, I don't think in a fight he wouldn't also have some hired goons to counteract Ra's hired goons. We've seen in the toon that he is very charismatic and can get people to work for him.
Is this a man on man fight? And, if so, how does one rectify that Ra's, to survive if mortally injured, has to get to a Lazarus pit to remain alive. Savage has no similar weakness.
In the toon, so far, we have seen him survive the attack on the castle that literally toppled it. Sure, he came out a little slimy and busted up, but he can't be killed, certainly not according to any evidence we've seen in the toon so far.
Also, we've seen him, in the future, create things like a rocket ship and a time machine. He has had years to garner a significant amount of intelligence, even in the present time of the fight.
Though Ra's is creepy as heck, and a formidable foe, his immortality is completely dependent upon the Lazarus pits, and said pits can be destroyed. Also, you could injure Ra's and keep him away from the Lazarus pit as well.
With that in mind, I think Savage wins.
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