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Vdubdavid
10-04-2001, 09:19 PM
This is just for future reference on my part, but is there any type of ettiquite(sic?) regarding tape trades? I did one a while ago (got the Inki series and "Wise Quackers"!), but I had nothing in return to give the trader. I have some rare cartoons on my hard drive, but I don't know how to copy those, nor do I have the equipment to copy any tapes I do have.

Rob
10-04-2001, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Vdubdavid
This is just for future reference on my part, but is there any type of ettiquite(sic?) regarding tape trades? I did one a while ago (got the Inki series and "Wise Quackers"!), but I had nothing in return to give the trader. I have some rare cartoons on my hard drive, but I don't know how to copy those, nor do I have the equipment to copy any tapes I do have.

Well, who says it has to be a tape? Last year, PlopKat sent me a tape of MR.MAGOO'S CHRISTMAS CAROL, and to return the favor, I sent him an old Looney Tunes coloring book from the'50s. Find something else the other person involved in the trade might like, if you can't trade a tape.

Brandon Pierce
10-04-2001, 09:49 PM
It is possible to have a recorded taped "dubbed'', but it costs money. My friend Kelly (who I think has the largest collection of Angry Beaver episodes) sent me a copy of the banned episode "Legend of Kid Friendly" (the print was kinda crappy though).

happyheathen
10-04-2001, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Brandon Pierce
It is possible to have a recorded taped "dubbed'', but it costs money. My friend Kelly (who I think has the largest collection of Angry Beaver episodes) sent me a copy of the banned episode "Legend of Kid Friendly" (the print was kinda crappy though).

if you want a clear, clean 'dub' of a tape, see 'video duplication' in your yellow pages - going rate is $20.

this is also how to get a PAL or SECAM format tape converted to NTSC so your (north american) VCR can play it ('Song of the South' was released only in PAL format (europen).

it also seems that money is considered 'dirty' as a medium of exchange. This in a capitalist economy?

to re-state:

DISTRIBUTING A COPY OF A COPYRIGHTED *ANYTHING* IS ILLEGAL UNDER US LAW - WHETHER MONEY IS OR IS NOT INVOLVED - (again, thank Rep. Sonny Bono - may he burn...(IMNHO))

also, publicly identifying the source of a copy is a no-no, unless you have specific permission to do so, or the source is 'open and notorious', as the lawyers say...

Cartman
10-04-2001, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by happyheathen

to re-state:

DISTRIBUTING A COPY OF A COPYRIGHTED *ANYTHING* IS ILLEGAL UNDER US LAW - WHETHER MONEY IS OR IS NOT INVOLVED - (again, thank Rep. Sonny Bono - may he burn...(IMNHO))

also, publicly identifying the source of a copy is a no-no, unless you have specific permission to do so, or the source is 'open and notorious', as the lawyers say...


Okay, I have been told by a guy who has been collecting Disney material for 20 years that making copies of copyrighted material was legal as long is it wasn't done for profit.

Brandon Pierce
10-04-2001, 10:37 PM
this is also how to get a PAL or SECAM format tape converted to NTSC so your (north american) VCR can play it ('Song of the South' was released only in PAL format (europen).
Does this mean I can take those UK prints I have of Looney Tunes/ Angry beavers I have that are time-compressed and convert them to USA print?

happyheathen
10-04-2001, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Brandon Pierce

Does this mean I can take those UK prints I have of Looney Tunes/ Angry beavers I have that are time-compressed and convert them to USA print?

uh oh...

here we are with the PAL/time-compressed thing again...

conversion is simply that - from one format to another (also from film/laser/dvd).

as to the theory that the time-compression is a result of a conversion from PAL to NTSC... won't go there - I'll just say that there are many tools to time-compress audio and video recording.

so:

if you can see the image when playing the tape on your VCR, it is already in NTSC, and does NOT need to be converted.

if you wish to un-time-compress the signal - good luck, as I have no idea - talk to the folks at a large, dedicated transfer lab - if the compression was done crudely (by speeding up the transport mechanism), the original signal may be retrievable (but for more than $20, I'd expect)

also, your basic VHS 1/2" tape is kinda minimum for video recording/playback to begin with, so don't expect miracles from it...

NOTE:

this discussion assumes the owner's VCR or other palyback device can play only NTSC tapes. Those with multi-format machines probably haven't read this far, so need not be concerned;)