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DR. BELCH
05-22-2001, 03:54 PM
It's not often that a truly intelligent and well-written show comes along...because it seems cerebral writing and characters that actually grow and develop is the kiss of death in television. My own brother broke my heart when he said Daria was "stupid and boring" and wondered why they cancelled Beavis and Butt-Head.
Daria is one of those few shows that gives both dynamic characters and good writing--and even when a script is a tad lackluster it's still better than most shows that inexplicably do well in the ratings despite lowered script quality (cf. The Simpsons...and that's a painful thing for a Simpsophile from the Ullman days to say, believe me.) Sadly the series will end after its fifth season...though that could be a blessing in disguise, because at least Jake Morgendorffer won't have a chance to become MTV's answer to Homer.
In "One J" we see that Quinn, normally the first to insult, criticize, or gripe at Daria for her style and behavior, seems almost jealous of her big sister. Daria has a steady boyfriend while Quinn feels unfulfilled flitting from guy to guy. So she tries settling down--first, meticulously charting potential lovers anging from height to hair color to car type, then by dating her three most ardent suitors, Joey and Jeffy and Jamie, one at a time. The thing is, they learn that the pursual is a lot more fun that the capture...Quinn is such a needy, self-serving brat that she alienates all her paramors...and Daria doesn't help matters any by feeding her head with all sorts of pie-in-the-sky expectations about love and committment.
Daria's own quandry is that Helen and Jake want to invite Tom over to dinner and Daria's afraid Jake will act up around him--he's on a kick about a trash can-knocking squirrel. The ending wasn't exactly man-friendly--Jake, Tom, and...eh...what's-his-face up and go off hooting together after catching the squirrel, leaving their ladies in the lurch. The whole thing felt a bit, for lack of a better word, like a "chick script"--hard not to do, though, when the main characters are women. Still, it made me think. I should find a woman http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/funny/gorgeous.gif to explain the subtleties in the script I might have, as a man, overlooked. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/funny/ladys-man.gif
Quinn shows some growth in reaching out to Daria for advice, but she's not the most cerebral girl in the world, taking her jokes about constant togetherness and adjoining burial plots seriously. In her defense, she never said any of it to be mean--but who knew Quinn would show the reasoning power of a three-year-old?
Quinn's biggest problem is that she can't comprehend why her relationships fail-- she's childlike and selfish, and can't find a lover with common interests/background/goals (though how many men actually know the difference between hot pink and a pale pastel pink?) She's the type of girl who (once she stops thinking sex is icky) will grow up to think the physical angle is all there is in a relationship. Trust me--I used to date a Quinn...for about five months. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/shocked/redface.gif Still, there's the desire to better herself...that's more than I can hope for most of the Quinns out there.

Calhoun07
05-22-2001, 09:38 PM
I love this show as well, and watch it whenever I can, but I am sorry to say that I have missed most of the episodes this year. I keep forgetting when it is on, and MTV has changed the times on me more than once. I really get tired of that. Of course, working a second job doesn't help, because if you forget to set the timer, that's it. I should get TIVO!

RockItShipper
05-22-2001, 11:16 PM
Quinn's biggest problem is that she can't comprehend why her relationships fail-- she's childlike and selfish, and can't find a lover with common interests/background/goals (though how many men actually know the difference between hot pink and a pale pastel pink?) She's the type of girl who (once she stops thinking sex is icky) will grow up to think the physical angle is all there is in a relationship. Trust me--I used to date a Quinn...for about five months. Still, there's the desire to better herself...that's more than I can hope for most of the Quinns out there.

You never know... Maybe there's hope for Quinn. But if she sticks to boys in her circle, more not than likely. My sister's social circle revolves around her sorority/similiar-caliber frats and I think that's a horrible limitation. Her desperation for a boyfriend/fling this summer has gotten to the point where one of her friends joked about them having a fling. Not something to report in front of the likes of me.:D Um, anyway... getting off the comp now to watch Orgazmo which I just just picked up and I've been dying to see for the longest time!:cool:

Crazy8s
05-23-2001, 09:45 PM
Daria is back on? What day and time? MTV drives me nuts by moving this show around and taking it off for boring road trips and the like.

I love Daria and I'm sorry to hear that the fifth season will be its last. This show continues to have such potential. I love how the characters have grown (yes, even Helen and Jake) and I love the poisonous wit. Such a well written, intelligent show!

As for Jake (one of my favorite characters), I don't see him at all in a Homer-like way--he's far more of a worrier! And I don't see Daria writers making the mistakes with and misreadings of characters that the folks behind the Simpsons have done. This is a savy crew!

Please tell me when Daria's airing!!!! Are they still running several episodes back to back so that viewers can see recent episodes they've missed?

Calhoun07
05-23-2001, 10:13 PM
Here is a list for the next two weeks of when the show will be on (times are for the central time zone, so please adjust accordingly for your area!) Now all I have to do is remember to watch it or at least set the VCR!

• Daria - "The Story of D"
MTV, Sat May 26 6:30 AM
• Daria - "Lucky Strike"
MTV, Sat May 26 7:00 AM
• Daria - "Art Burn"
MTV, Sat May 26 7:30 AM
• Daria - "One J at a Time"
MTV, Sat May 26 8:00 AM
• Daria - "Fizz Ed"
MTV, Mon May 28 5:00 AM
• Daria - "Sappy Anniversary"
MTV, Mon May 28 5:30 AM
• Daria - "The Story of D"
MTV, Mon May 28 6:00 AM
• Daria - "One J at a Time"
MTV, Mon May 28 6:30 AM
• Daria - "Life in the Past Lane"
MTV, Mon May 28 9:00 PM
• Daria - "Life in the Past Lane"
MTV, Wed May 30 4:30 PM
• Daria - "Life in the Past Lane"
MTV, Thu May 31 1:30 PM
• Daria - "Life in the Past Lane"
MTV, Sat Jun 02 7:00 AM

Calhoun07
05-23-2001, 10:15 PM
The bad news is, of course, this is Daria's last season. The good news is that I have heard that MTV is readying DVD sets for each season. Now, I hope that turns out to be true and they don't just give us some lame best of DVD with three episodes on it. I want the entire series!

Crazy8s
05-24-2001, 07:43 AM
MTV must have more boring 'reality' shows, party shows, celeb shows, game shows, etc. than Hell, but a great show like Daria they shuffle all over the place! Heck, if they aren't gonna play videos any more, the least they can do is air their more interesting shows where folks can see them!

Lonestarr
05-24-2001, 11:56 AM
I truly hope that they put "Daria" on DVD, not to mention two not-as-well-known but equally good shows: "Downtown" and "Undergrads".

Calhoun07
05-24-2001, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Crazy8s
MTV must have more boring 'reality' shows, party shows, celeb shows, game shows, etc. than Hell, but a great show like Daria they shuffle all over the place! Heck, if they aren't gonna play videos any more, the least they can do is air their more interesting shows where folks can see them!

Well, this is one reason I wish MTV would just start an animation network. It would kick Cartoon Networks booty!

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Inque
05-24-2001, 03:53 PM
my sister looks exactly like daria.......i'd post a picture if i had one.

DR. BELCH
05-24-2001, 04:22 PM
RockItShipper, on her sister:
Her desperation for a boyfriend/fling this summer has gotten to the point where one of her friends joked about them having a fling.
You sure it was a joke? That suggestion could have been a little Sapphic trial-balloon, just to see if little sister's door swings both ways. I can't tell you how many skin flicks I've seen featuring that basic premise. Something tells me that in the back of her mind the other girl was thinking, Oh, who am I kidding? The boathouse was the time!
BTW, I've seen Orgazmo twice. My favorite scene had to be the one with Joe and T-Rex (Trey Parker also did her vocal effects, which makes the scene doubly funny)...also, the bit with the A**f*** Twins was riotous.

Calhoun07
05-24-2001, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Inque
my sister looks exactly like daria.......i'd post a picture if i had one.

Inque, sometimes your nonsense posts just make me laugh!

RockItShipper
05-24-2001, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH

You sure it was a joke? That suggestion could have been a little Sapphic trial-balloon, just to see if little sister's door swings both ways.
You'd think her friends would know better- the way she spends more time with them. Although I've lived with myself for 20 years and I don't know at all.



BTW, I've seen Orgazmo twice. My favorite scene had to be the one with Joe and T-Rex (Trey Parker also did her vocal effects, which makes the scene doubly funny)...also, the bit with the A**f*** Twins was riotous.

Did you see it in theaters? I wanted to, but it wasn't playing anywhere close or for very long. But I finally got to see it and I really liked it! :D

DR. BELCH
05-25-2001, 12:01 PM
It's been on TV a couple of times--one of the HBO channels, I think. I seldom go to theaters, exept for a couple of times my brothers coaxed me out to see Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me (which has also been on cable about ten million times since) and Dr. Doolittle with Eddie Murphy (a fair effort but no Nutty Professor. My brother and I used to spend a lot of time running through speeches from both Professor and Powers ad nauseum. He'd do Granny Klump and Dr. Evil; I'd do Austin, Fat B*st*rd, Mama Klump, and Cleatus. It was a riot....


RockItShipper:
You'd think her friends would know better- the way she spends more time with them. Although I've lived with myself for 20 years and I don't know at all.
Again, that sounds like a line from every other skin flick I've seen...http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/tongue/lickthe.gif http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/funny/gorgeous.gifhttp://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/funny/ladys-man.gif

RockItShipper
05-25-2001, 12:28 PM
I saw this URL promoting the unrated DVD in Entertainment Weekly...

http://www.hotgrannyaction.com/ :eek:

Inque
05-25-2001, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by calhoun07


Inque, sometimes your nonsense posts just make me laugh!

But it's TRUE!! anybody want to lend me a scanner so i can post a pic?