View Full Version : SVES Backtalk: Zoids Fuzors - Fuzors Combine! Liger Zero Phoenix (Spoilers)
Killtacular
10-25-2003, 03:27 PM
Ooooone mooooore thing!
If I see "GF", "CC", or "Zero" in this thread (outside of "Liger Zero"), especially in the context of comparison, I will smack some ass. Not in the good way. The bad smacking.
Mugen
10-25-2003, 05:55 PM
Ooooone mooooore thing!
If I see "GF", "CC", or "Zero" in this thread (outside of "Liger Zero"), especially in the context of comparison, I will smack some ass. Not in the good way. The bad smacking.
You wouldn't dare!
DianaGohan
10-25-2003, 06:13 PM
You wouldn't dare!
Oh, he would. Although if you try that with me, Matt I'm calling the police for sexual Harassment, before I smack you for trying to smack me.
JohnCrichton
10-25-2003, 06:22 PM
Should someone make a "Zoids Comparison Thread?"
Zapages
10-25-2003, 06:27 PM
Should someone make a "Zoids Comparison Thread?
Yes...
I'm going to make a comparison jsut for the fun of it. :sad: :evil: :evil:
DianaGohan
10-25-2003, 07:26 PM
The Heroes Actually Start Fusing In The Zoids Fuzors "Fuzors Combine! Liger Zero Phoenix" Episode Review.
Okay, Sweet needs her own damn Zoid. Otherwise, she's really dead weight to this series. I see no reason for her not to have her own Zoid. I mean, Leena had one in Zoids Zero (oh, another Zoids refrence. What's Matt gonna do about it?) so I don't see why Sweet shouldn't have one. Anyway, blah blah blah Fire Phoenix and Liger Zero fuse. Blah blah blah they're really strong. Blah blah blah I didn't really care about anything that happen to anyone. Blah blah blah, I'm giving this series one last episode to improve. C
Zapages
10-25-2003, 07:38 PM
The Heroes Actually Start Fusing In The Zoids Fuzors "Fuzors Combine! Liger Zero Phoenix" Episode Review.
Okay, Sweet needs her own damn Zoid. Otherwise, she's really dead weight to this series. I see no reason for her not to have her own Zoid. I mean, Leena had one in Zoids Zero (oh, another Zoids refrence. What's Matt gonna do about it?) so I don't see why Sweet shouldn't have one. Anyway, blah blah blah Fire Phoenix and Liger Zero fuse. Blah blah blah they're really strong. Blah blah blah I didn't really care about anything that happen to anyone. Blah blah blah, I'm giving this series one last episode to improve. C
That's exactly how I felt, but I'm giving it a lot more chances. Also why is the other group so obessed with killing Artie's Zoid?
In Zoids /Zero a lot of female characters their own Zoid like the Noime(SP?) the red comet, but why can't Sweet have a Zoid?
Anime Guy
10-25-2003, 07:38 PM
The Heroes Actually Start Fusing In The Zoids Fuzors "Fuzors Combine! Liger Zero Phoenix" Episode Review.
Okay, Sweet needs her own damn Zoid. Otherwise, she's really dead weight to this series. I see no reason for her not to have her own Zoid. I mean, Leena had one in Zoids Zero (oh, another Zoids refrence. What's Matt gonna do about it?) so I don't see why Sweet shouldn't have one. Anyway, blah blah blah Fire Phoenix and Liger Zero fuse. Blah blah blah they're really strong. Blah blah blah I didn't really care about anything that happen to anyone. Blah blah blah, I'm giving this series one last episode to improve. C
Who was piloting the Fire Phoenix? Is it a wild zoid?
I don't think Matt should get upset about making a reference to other zoids series, unless we start talking about which is better or something. But, I'm sure he will.
In Zoids /Zero a lot of female characters their own Zoid like the Noime(SP?) the red comet, but why can't Sweet have a Zoid?
Naomi.
shoujoaifan
10-25-2003, 07:38 PM
When the show started, I knew it wasn't going to be a work of art, and I've even considered how it may be useful for such a slow start. But COME ONE, its the fricken FOURTH episode already. What IS the deal with Blake and R.D.?
And Sweet is pretty much useless, she should get her own zoid.
Waiting for the fourth episode to see the heroes fuse wasn't so bad, since the 1st ep blended into the 2nd, and the last ep. was a good setup for this.
Actually, I did enjoy this, its one of the shows you need to turn your brain off. The only thing besides the Blake/R.D. deal that really needs work would be the end:
Sigma: "But I wonder if he was afraid of the zoid and not the z-pilot?"
R.D.: "Sure, whatever."
AS much as that screams out how the show is probably going to turn out :rolleyes: , that was just funny :D
Cyber E.
10-25-2003, 07:42 PM
Backtalk..
..Matt, you are one witty son of a gun.
Oh, he would. Although if you try that with me, Matt I'm calling the police for sexual Harassment, before I smack you for trying to smack me.
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Digu Volz
10-25-2003, 07:48 PM
Helmet’s chin-butt has a nose shadow !
This story is progressing a bit too fast. The story moves from one place to another place to another place with the snap of a finger; it’s a jarring nuisance. None of these guys’ personality seem to stand out and we still don’t know what makes R.D. so special that he ‘has to be destroyed’ ? Man… What is it with this show ? It reminds me of Transformers Armada in some ways…
DianaGohan
10-25-2003, 08:13 PM
This story is progressing a bit too fast. The story moves from one place to another place to another place with the snap of a finger; it’s a jarring nuisance. None of these guys’ personality seem to stand out and we still don’t know what makes R.D. so special that he ‘has to be destroyed’ ? Man… What is it with this show ? It reminds me of Transformers Armada in some ways…
It could be in the editing. Both Zoids Fuzors and Transformers Armada are dubbed by Shopro, so there will be some simiarities I guess.
Sweet DOES have a Zoid, the Gustav transport! :D :anime:
TacoHunter
10-25-2003, 10:29 PM
Damn it all. The series still sucks. I don't feel that this episode is as bad as its been, but still. Its starting to feel like Gundam Wing. Where everyone is god unless its convenient for the story.
shoujoaifan
10-25-2003, 10:40 PM
That's unfortunately not really saying much Duke. At least Moonbay was tough street wise and ended up using her driving talents to pilot zoids in the army. Sweet, who so far, is a very caring, swe-er, nice woman, but all she seems to do is knocks some sense into R.D. which doesn't last long, occasionally handle the transport when everyone else is fighting with their zoids, and so far has acted as a secretary all of once.
(Well now, so far so good. I managed not to call Sweet sweet-ah crap!)
Damn they finally did it, they had to go on and pussify the Berserk Fury. In NC0 Fury kicked ass, untouchable. Now this Berserk Fury gets its ass kicked in every episode. I mean this is the most powerful Zoid on Zi, even more so as a fuzor but no. It loses to a wild Zoid first then gets creamed in this ep. What the hell.
Oh and its seems so strange that Sweet feels like useless dead weight. I mean Fiona and Moonbay never had Zoids but they never seemed like dead weight(well you could make a case for Fiona since she was the plot, but Sweet has the same job Moonbay had).
Ehh..I'll keep watching since its Zoids, but I won't like it.
Artimus Gigan
10-25-2003, 10:52 PM
Wait the Bezerk Fury has Two more upgrades(three if you count the armor) I'm still confused, why, and when is this happening, I mean there is no story sofar.....Also where is that Gunsniper I saw in the promos?
The lack of sensible pilots is scarring me.....
Anime Guy
10-25-2003, 10:58 PM
That's unfortunately not really saying much Duke. At least Moonbay was tough street wise and ended up using her driving talents to pilot zoids in the army. Sweet, who so far, is a very caring, swe-er, nice woman, but all she seems to do is knocks some sense into R.D. which doesn't last long, occasionally handle the transport when everyone else is fighting with their zoids, and so far has acted as a secretary all of once.
(Well now, so far so good. I managed not to call Sweet sweet-ah crap!)
Sweet is sweet, believe me, I know. :D
I told you to shut up about that!
The lack of sensible pilots is scarring me.....
Zoids Fuzors is probably one of those shows that starts off kinda random and gets better in the later episodes. At least, I hope.
creeper
10-25-2003, 11:38 PM
This ep was pretty weak....which just adds to my dislike of this series. The piloting in this version of zoids is really weak. So is the beserk fury a basic zoid now. I mean, in the other series(that i won't mention) it was an uber powerful zoid just by itself. Now it seems to be dumbed down. Could just be the pilot also.
Did anyone even notice that the beserk fury came fused against a command wolf and a.....what was the name of that zoid again? ..oh well... my point is the beserk fury unfused should have been able to take them down w/ no problem. Is it just that the CPG doesn't exist in this version of zoids? Now liger can fuse w/ phoneix. Yay......not. Not that i think liger zero is lame or anything, but if the pilot were better than maybe i'd be more impressed.
Here's hoping the rest of the series is better. So far the series as a whole gets a big thumbs down from me.
Sampo
10-26-2003, 12:16 AM
Not much to add since I missed this episode due to falling asleep while watching Yugioh and minor glitch popped up that prevented my computer from capturing it during its sceduled time... But at the look of things I didn't miss much.
It is lame and disappointing to hear that Sweet doesn't have her own Zoid yet :( Also having no real character or not much plot development for this series is badd...
Colodie
10-26-2003, 01:32 AM
Hmm...., well, it was kinda nice to see the Fire Phoenix get beat up, seeing as everyone in the show was making it out to be so powerfull..., and silly Storm Sworder pilot.., you have machine guns, and can fly, just stay away from the Liger's claws, and you can't really lose..., ah well. I'll keep on watching to see if any cool Zoids show up...,
JohnCrichton
10-26-2003, 10:02 AM
This show's taking the worse from both previous series. The poor fight choreography of CC/GF which at least had a TON of drama and story to back it up and the lack of drama and story from Zero which at least had incredible fight choreography to back it up.
The series goes no where and really fast. Quatre's voice gets on my nerves and as everyone's said, it seems like the Zero and the Fury up and lost their Organoids, cuz they're not better than any other Zoid you can pick up at the corner market.
What happened to this franchise? Who was the story director in the first series and where did he go? And who was the fight choreographer in the second and where did he go? And why do they feel the franchise is better off without either of those elements?
I think I'm the only one who misses the cel-shading for the series. IMO, the Zoids just don't look as good as they used to.
TacoHunter
10-26-2003, 10:48 AM
You know, I was thinking the same thing. The cel shading made the Zoids look slick and cool, but now they look all big and bulky. But the animation is better...but the cel shading made them look cooler. That and the choreography was better, probably just because of the limitations.
PearlRose86
10-26-2003, 12:55 PM
I really want to like this series, but it's making it difficult for me to.
However, missing 2 of the 4 episodes that have aired so far probably doesn't help my enjoyment of this series any. ^^;
Yesterday's was okay, though. Fire Phoenix was decent, although I was questioning if it had a pliot or not for a minute there. I didn't think Liger Zero's fuzor partner would be a wild zoid.
As for the lack of cel-shading in this series... I miss it too. It made the zoids look about a thousand times cooler. ^^
-Maggie
Bakasama
10-26-2003, 01:11 PM
The Fire Phoenix appears to be a wild zoid. I do believe it'll get a pilot at some point.
You know what is also screwing this series, the fact that its on once a week, IMO. Maybe if it was on everyday it wouldn't seem so crappy. Imagine if CC/GF would been on once a week? Fuzors is a slow series, and waiting an ep. per week to see the plot unfold is a big turn off. Remember how everybody complained about .Hack/sign being slow when it did that once per week crap (and that was a good series).
Bakasama
10-26-2003, 02:01 PM
You got a good point. Both CC/GF and Zero were shown daily. Fuzors only gets weekly showings for now. Personally, I think it IS too soon judge this show right now.
lostrune
10-26-2003, 05:21 PM
You know what is also screwing this series, the fact that its on once a week, IMO. Maybe if it was on everyday it wouldn't seem so crappy. Imagine if CC/GF would been on once a week? Fuzors is a slow series, and waiting an ep. per week to see the plot unfold is a big turn off. Remember how everybody complained about .Hack/sign being slow when it did that once per week crap (and that was a good series).
Yeah, people got spoiled by the pseudo-"fast enfolding" plots of the previous two series. :sweat:
Once a week is adequate when there's a lot to discuss in each episode, like .Hack//Sign. :D
raykremer
10-27-2003, 12:32 AM
If I see "GF", "CC", or "Zero" in this thread (outside of "Liger Zero"), especially in the context of comparison, I will smack some ass. Not in the good way. The bad smacking.
Bah. Considering that plot movement in Fuzors has so far been almost nothing, what else are we supposed to talk about?
it seems like the Zero and the Fury up and lost their Organoids
I wonder about that. It's already obvious that they don't make an effort to establish continuity between the different Zoids shows. The main unifying factor is that the good guy has whatever is the most recent Liger model kit and his rival has whatever is the most recent Tyrannosaur-ish model kit. There haven't been any new Ligers or T-Rexes lately, so they just reused the ones from the NC Zero show, fusing them with bird-zoids to make them look at least a little different. Now, in NC Zero they were unique Zoids, Ultimate Xs with organoid systems. But then in CC/GF, the Blade Liger was also unique, a Shield Liger evolved by an organoid, while in NC Zero and Fuzors we have seen other Blade Ligers. Clearly at some point they copied the original Blade Liger and it became just another mas produced Zoid. We may as well just conclude then that RD's Liger Zero and Blake's Bererk Fury are not the originals that Bit and Vega piloted, and are in fact rather old designs. Though old doesn't mean bad. After all, the Command Wolf model still seems to be popular after all these years.
After all, the Command Wolf model still seems to be popular after all these years.
Yet neither Brad nor Helmet were as good as Irvine...
True Noir
10-27-2003, 09:38 PM
Ah...! I'm so frigging mad. I missed the episode. I wanted to see if the series got a little better.
JohnCrichton
10-28-2003, 08:48 AM
I'd like to chime in an agreeance on the whole fact that Fuzors is only once a week as well.
I didn't like the first three episodes of CC/GF and I didn't like the first episodes of Zero either. Wasn't 'til episode, like, seven that I started to become a fan, so ZF has room to grow. Too bad it's stuck doing it only once a week tho. Pacing like that for a show like this is pretty annoying.
Finally got to watching this episode..
I thought that was a cool fusion. I like the look of Liger Zero Phoenix.
Nice aerial moves.
Overall a C. i missed most of the episode, only catching it once those guys were attack fire phoenix, but from the looks of the episode it didn't really seem to have much of a storyline.. It was basically distract RD and the gang while they try to take out the fire phoenix, but RD not only saves it but saves the gang too. I'm hoping it gets better, I've seen all the eps but the first one and I have to say this has was the episode I've liked the least so far.
Okay, Sweet needs her own damn Zoid. Otherwise, she's really dead weight to this series. I see no reason for her not to have her own Zoid. I mean, Leena had one in Zoids Zero (oh, another Zoids refrence. What's Matt gonna do about it?) so I don't see why Sweet shouldn't have one.
I agree. Watching these episodes so far, she just seems to be there.. no real reason.. in fact that episode where RD just left her there stranded for the whole episode was telling. I hope they do something with her or else she's just a useless character than.
Remember that in Zero, Jamie was useless 90% of the time until he became the Wild Eagle, then he became useless 95% of the time.
Razor
11-01-2003, 12:30 AM
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Ya know, this early on in the series, and considering Mach Storm is a mostly obscure group, I'd think that portraying the Beserk Fury and Liger 0 as normal zoids is a GOOD thing.
"Oh look, the series just started! The character is a guy who's supposed to be inexperienced! But to keep up with fans' own preconceptions of what and whatnot's untouchable... both the Beserk Fury and Liger 0 are inexplicably undefeatable and RD is a great pilot!"
I dunnow, the fact that Beserk Fury and Liger 0 have become generic models is a good idea. In fact, it shows how much Zi has changed. But the idea could stand to be reinforced; show a few people with Ligers and Furys of their own.
RD isn't a great pilot now because, as it stands, he's a nobody. But over the course of the series, he'll develop. That's kind of a given. The Fuzors help him along the way, much like what an Organoid did for a certain kid.
But I think thinking that RD should be "uber l337" from the get go is a mistake.
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I wish I hadn't missed this episode.
And I think the whole point of not explaining the Savage Hammer/Mach Storm rivalry is that they're saving it for a flashback.
raykremer
11-01-2003, 02:20 AM
both the Beserk Fury and Liger 0 are inexplicably undefeatable and RD is a great pilot!
But I think thinking that RD should be "uber l337" from the get go is a mistake.
You mean like Bit Cloud was? IIRC Blitz Team only lost one battle. Yeah, pretty unrealistic.
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