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The Spectre
09-15-2003, 04:43 PM
One which always used to drive me nuts was at the end of the Tom and Jerry cartoon "Triplet Trouble". The cartoon concerns the trouble our heroes have with three mischeivous brats of kittens - one red, one black, one yellowish. Throughout the cartoon there are only three of them, and the short is called "Triplet Trouble", yet in the final scene, when they go around on that spinning clothes-drying thing, there are *four* of them - two of them are red!
Also, in at least two Tom and Jerry shorts (Trap Happy and Springtime for Thomas), when we get a close-up of Butch(the black cat)'s hands, the color of the hands and forearms are those of Tom rather than of Butch.
Anyone else have any?
Mibbitmaker
09-16-2003, 11:40 AM
There was a Flintstones episode, either 2nd or 3rd season, where - I swear - Wilma's entire head disappears! :eek:
jeff_schiller
09-16-2003, 11:41 AM
Anyone else have any?
At the end of "Notes to You", there are only 7 cat ghosts (out of 9 cat lives) singing on Porky's fence. I think it's ghost 4 and 8 that are missing.
Larry T
09-16-2003, 12:36 PM
At the end of "Notes to You", there are only 7 cat ghosts (out of 9 cat lives) singing on Porky's fence. I think it's ghost 4 and 8 that are missing.
Yes, and there's more than 9 lives flying up past Elmer at the end of "Back Alley Op-roar".
STASHONE
09-16-2003, 01:13 PM
I think it's the Woody Woodpecker cartoon "Smoked Hams" where in one scene, Woody sits up in bed and stretches out his arms and the pillow which is shown behind him, suddenly disappears from the shot for about 10 seconds as though the animators forgot to draw it in the stills, and than blatantly reappears out of nowhere. The pillow just dissapeared as though it had never been there, and than its suddenly back in the shot seconds later in the same place. I've seen more subtle mistakes related to low budget costs, etc like a charcter missing an article of clothing such as a hat or something relative to consistency but it's not even like the scene switched and came back with the error. The focus was shot right at the bed, the only objects in the still were Woody, the bed and the pillow and all of a sudden in the middle of Woody's dialogue, the pillow vanishes from behind him. I really thought I wasn't paying attention and missed something, like somebody snatched it away or Woody threw it on the floor but after rewinding it 3 times, the only movement seemed to be Woody's head, the backround was a still sketch minus about 5 seconds of the pillow. Really strange, this mistake always bothered me...
Tom41
09-16-2003, 01:25 PM
There's one Tom and Jerry cartoon where Tom tries to spend a hot summer's day sleeping in a hammock outside (but of course is menaced by Jerry). I think it's called 'Cat Napping' or something. Anyway, for a large portion of the cartoon, the animators have forgotten to draw in Tom's tail! The tail doesn't reappear until after the 'frog' segment!
And I'm sure you all know about the myriad of continuity errors, abrupt jumps and muted voices in Clampett's "The Big Snooze"...
In The Rabbit Of Seville Bugs has five fingers when he taps them on Elmers head.
In Good Night Elmer a single candle gives out an awful amount of light.
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Corrado
09-16-2003, 01:54 PM
I forgot the name of the Merrie Melodie, but in one of those shorts, a baby's leg DISAPPEARS for a few frames.
Thad Komorowski
09-16-2003, 02:27 PM
I guess the inkers on "Mexican Boarders" wanted us to experience Slowpoke's 'highness'... When he's singing "La Cucaracha" his hat color keeps changing!
There's also the scene in "Henpecked Hoboes" where Junior plucks George of all his fur and vest. But when George 'punishes' Junior, his vest is back!
In Daffy The Commando the sheild doesn't enter, it just remains stactic inbetween the rings. :daffy: :confused:
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jeff_schiller
09-16-2003, 02:40 PM
In The Rabbit Of Seville Bugs has five fingers when he taps them on Elmers head.
This reminded me of the Case of the Missing Hare - he also has five fingers when his hand comes out of the hat and searches for the carrot...
In "Meatless Flyday", the spider only has five fingers (and toes) for the scene where he needs them (after the butcher's knife chops off his shoe). Throughout the rest of the cartoon he has four. :p
In "Bear Feat", Pa Bear is reading a newspaper that has a Bugs Bunny comic in it, however, later in the film we learn the paper is dated 1928, many years before Bugs was created. :eek:
- Javier :chilly:
This one has always bugged me:
In LITTLE RED RIDING RABBIT, Bugs sneaks up behind the Wolf (dressed as Grandma) and is actually right behind him INSIDE the nightgown. Since the nightgown touches the floor, Bugs is concealed. We see his silouette as they pass in front of the fireplace, and Bugs grabs a hot coal using the tongs. But in one shot, the nightgown is slightly above the floor, exposing the Wolf's legs, but NOT Bugs'.
The Spectre
09-16-2003, 04:01 PM
Corrado - are you thinking of that one about all the fairy tales? (the baby being the one who yells "Hey! Careful! My corn!" after being this-little-piggied)
candy17
09-16-2003, 04:23 PM
I forgot the name of the Merrie Melodie, but in one of those shorts, a baby's leg DISAPPEARS for a few frames.
That was from the one about fairy tales and nursery rhymes. It was done by Friz Freleng and damned if I know the title.
Some continuity/animation errors in classic toons:
-In Fast and Furry-ous (the first Wile E Coyote cartoon): there were many frames in the boomerang sequence where Wile E's tail disappears.
-In Triplet Trouble: Mammy Two Shoes's shoes change at the end of the cartoon (you have to actually watch this cartoon the whole way through to see what I mean).
-In the all-around despised Tokio Jokio, during the Japanese club sandwich joke, the Japanese chef's hand has five fingers when he hits himself with a club (Direct Quote from that scene: "Aftah eating, you will enjoying club."), but when he does that lip thing with his thumb, he had the typical cartoon four fingers.
-Throughout all of Robert McKimson's Foghorn Leghorn cartoons, Foghorn's tail feathers change from three to four (and in the pilot cartoon, Foghorn had three toes on each foot instead of two...and he was the same height as Barnyard Dawg, when in later cartoons, Foggy was taller than the dog he constantly abused).
Larry T
09-16-2003, 04:32 PM
In Daffy The Commando the sheild doesn't enter, it just remains stactic inbetween the rings. :daffy: :confused:
Yes, it does..... But it's in "Great PiggyBank Robbery" and "Kitty Kornered" that it starts already sitting within the rings.
But in "Buckaroo Bugs", after he bashes Red Hot Rider to the ground the second time, Bug's mask disappears right before our eyes.
absolutpaul
09-16-2003, 05:18 PM
I forget which Tweety cartoon it is, but watch the scene where Sylvester hides in the "yarn box" and Granny sits down and starts knitting. For a brief second while she's knitting, her upper body disappears, leaving only her head, her arms and her bottom half knitting away!
Also, I always notice that when Wile E. is holding that boomerang in Fast and Furry-ous and he's tossing it up and down, his tail keeps disappearing and re-appearing.
Also as a sidenote - in Bon Voyage Charlie Brown, when Charlie and Linus are stuck outside in the rain, Charlie says "Let's get out of this rain" but it is Linus' voice!! I remember that happening to Betty and Wilma on the Flintstones a few times too.
Brandon Pierce
09-16-2003, 05:29 PM
There was a Flintstones episode, either 2nd or 3rd season, where - I swear - Wilma's entire head disappears! :eek:
Also during the original closing sequence where Fred is getting ready for bed, notice Wilma who's sleeping in bed, her mouth is gone.
A couple Scooby Doo glitches.
In the "3 Stooges" episode, Velma gets kidnapped and the gang have to find Velma, but there's one moment when they look to find Velma, Velma is standing there with them! OOPS!
In the "Batman" episode, when Velma explains to Shaggy what counterfeit money is, her glasses turn from black to white.
Also, not really a goof, but definatly a nitpick, whenever we see Daphne falling and her body is upright, her skirt always stays down. Definatly not realistic.
And the cartoon with the baby's dissapearing leg, I think the title is "Gander at Mother Goose", or "Foney Fables", one of those two.
EASTER YEGGS- After the loveboat scene, Bugs Bunny dissapears for a quick frame. It's at the part where he tells Elmer "Temper, temper.."
A WILD HARE- Bugs's carrot grows longer (oy... that sounded wrong!)
at the end of the cartoon.
Also during the original closing sequence where Fred is getting ready for bed, notice Wilma who's sleeping in bed, her mouth is gone.
I've heard that in the original closing, complete with Winston Cigarette plugs, that Wilma's mouth was present. It's only in the sponsorless version that the mistake was made.
JDWeil
09-16-2003, 06:24 PM
I forgot the name of the Merrie Melodie, but in one of those shorts, a baby's leg DISAPPEARS for a few frames.
I believe it's titled "A Gander At Mother Goose"
JDWeil
09-16-2003, 06:26 PM
"The Heckling Hare" has a notable goof goof. As Bugs and the dog are falling off the cliff, thay unaccountably switch positions during the fall.
In the Tom & Jerry short, "Bowling Alley Cat" T & J's reflections are missing when the background shows such reflections. It's kinda bothersome.
In "Baby Puss" Jerry plays a record. But when there's a close-up of Jerry, the turntable is motionless. It was painted into the background.
Corrado
09-16-2003, 06:36 PM
"A couple Scooby Doo glitches.
In the "3 Stooges" episode, Velma gets kidnapped and the gang have to find Velma, but there's one moment when they look to find Velma, Velma is standing there with them! OOPS!
In the "Batman" episode, when Velma explains to Shaggy what counterfeit money is, her glasses turn from black to white.
Also, not really a goof, but definatly a nitpick, whenever we see Daphne falling and her body is upright, her skirt always stays down. Definatly not realistic."
I think there's about 500 goofs in The Scooby-doo Movies. I think the one with the genie, there's at least 1 goof a scene.
Davesnothere
09-16-2003, 09:44 PM
In "Bosko's Soda Fountain" the banana for the banana split he's making is not in the fruit bowl until his hand gets there to grab it! :bosko:
Davesnothere
09-16-2003, 09:47 PM
Has anybody ever noticed any errors in Fleischer shorts? I don't notice the flips, flashes, and flickers that are way too common in Disney shorts from 1930-32 in the Talkartoons. Maybe the boss was much more nitpicky.
nakak
09-16-2003, 10:47 PM
"Cock-a-Doodle Deux Deux" - look at Sgt. Deux Deux's hat when Inspector shows him a room full of eggs. Similar error in "Plastered in Paris" when Inspector and Sgt. fall down the cliff.
"The Froggy Froggy Duo" - the beginning, where Pancho and Toro are resting, for a few frames, Toro's mouth gets out of his head. I think the camera man accidently goofed up the settings...
in early Hanna-Barbera, I think there were stuff like arms missing for few frames. Limited animation was new then, so it was bound to happen.
Steve Carras
09-17-2003, 12:19 AM
The very much-mentioned FONEY FABLES (1940, WB) had a little baby's toes disappearing and reappering.
Countless redrawns, and limited animated TV show (the close for the 1960-1962 episodes as shown on CN and Boomerang of FLINSTONES-Wilma sleeping with no mouth!!)
A HICK, A SLICK, AND A CHICK (1947, WB) has the mice, especially the Hick and Slick off modeland looking like anything BUT mice..often they have bat-ears (in alt.animation.warner-bros there is MICE OUTNUMBER RATS..)
In the FLINSTONES Barney's eyes were (this is my FIRST editing here!) Little Orphan Annie looking early but they were filled up in later episodes.
BTW Made it a week after my car accident and I was the PEDESTERIAN!..got my left leg pretty bruised but it's healing, am able to walk pretty good.I took a 90 minute walk today..
Chew Chew Baby (with Woody Woodpecker) has some pretty amazing backgrounds in some of the early scenes. I seem to recall walls and doorways that appear and dissappear like magic. I'm sure it was all intentional, but it is a continuity error.
Another intentional continuity error that I really noticed in Rabbit Seasoning when I saw it at a theater was the size of the characters. In several scenes Daffy and Bugs were shown standing next to each other. Bugs is cut off at the hips, but Daffy seems to be cut off at the ankles. So, either Daffy's legs grew to twice thier length or Bugs is kneeling. :p (Daffy had this "magic legs" problem in a lot of early 50's cartoons)
In the Fleischer Popeye "We Aim to Please", there's a scene where Bluto asks for half a dozen sandwiches. The number of sandwiches keeps changing many times throughout the whole scene. Note that when Olive first makes the sandwiches, she puts them in a tower like this: bread, salami, bread, salami, bread, salami, etc... Therefore when you separate them, you don't have six separate sandwiches, but six salamis over one loaf of bread each. They magically become sandwiches in the next shot. Then she throws six sandwiches at Popeye, but when Bluto puts them in his arm, out of nowhere they become eight!
I've only seen the redrawn version of this short, but judging for the pacing, I presume this was a mistake indeed in the original B&W version.
angilbas
09-17-2003, 01:25 AM
"Bully for Bugs": El Toro's nostrils pulsate when he starts to steam :bugs1:'s tail; then the camera switches to a side view in which the bull's visible nostril is motionless.
"A Mutt in a Rut": Wover may have been more violent to the host of 'The Dog Lover's Hour' than the screen showed. In his first scene, the man is shown with a five-digit hand ... but during Wover's attack, we see only four-digit hands.
"People are Bunny": :daffy: grabs a shotgun from above :bugs1:'s fireplace and marches :bugs1: out of his hole. On the way out, :daffy: is aiming the gun at :bugs1: ... and in the background, the gun is still in its original mount!
-Tony
Davesnothere
09-17-2003, 02:09 AM
In "Pigs In A Polka", a three little pigs spoof, the three pigs run upstairs(from the wolf), then you see two of them get into an elevator(!), next you see the three of them in the basement by the elevator door. Seems they forgot to animate one of them getting in the elevator upstairs.
Bugsmer
09-17-2003, 10:26 AM
BTW Made it a week after my car accident and I was the PEDESTERIAN!..got my left leg pretty bruised but it's healing, am able to walk pretty good.I took a 90 minute walk today..
Sounds painful! It's good that you're exercising it, since you don't want it to get stiff. It's a good thing that nothing was broken or sprained!
STASHONE
09-17-2003, 10:40 AM
This isn't a continuity error but speaking of character sizing and proportions, it's always bothered me the way Woody suddenly turns into a tiny midget at the end of the "Drooler's Delight" cartoon. He starts off at about half the body length of Buzz Buzzard and than suddenly shrinks 5 feet to the size of a pencil and gets stuffed in a glass of root beer... what the were the animators thinking? That is the absolute stupidest ending to any classic cartoon short I've ever seen.
Howard Fein
09-17-2003, 01:57 PM
[QUOTE=JDWeil]"The Heckling Hare" has a notable goof goof. As Bugs and the dog are falling off the cliff, thay unaccountably switch positions during the fall.
Knowing Avery, that was deliberate. It seems to fit with the ridiculously protracted plunge, and the fact that Bugs has time for a carrot during it!
I can think of several instances in which a character's mouth is not moving during dialogue. That's probably because it was decided to add a line after the animation was complete:
HAIR CONDITIONED: Though 'Gildersneeze' is voiced throughout the cartoon by someone other than Blanc, Mel does one line: "Now I'll finish you off- heheheh!" when he's pulling a rifle on Bugs behind the store counter. And his lips don't move! Obviously, Jones decided to add the line after the guest voice artist had departed so Blanc was summoned.
HAIR-RAISING HARE: :bugs1: "Look out dere- in de audience-"
DAFFY DUCK SLEPT HERE: :daffy: "Pleased to meetcha, Chubby!"
CORN ON THE COP: "If there's one thing I can't stand, it's sloppy handiwork."
Mixed-up voices are very common in any cartoon with a lot of regular characters, especially those from H-B. In one early FLINSTONE episode, Wilma speaks an entire line in Betty's voice. Throughout the run of SCOOBY-DOO, Velma and Daphne might imitate each other. In one instance, Scooby and Shaggy imitated each other! :confused: That must've been some scary monster! :shrug: Other instances of mixed-up voices occur in JOSIE & THE PUSSYCATS, HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS, SUPER FRIENDS and PAC-MAN, among others. It also happens in TV cartoons from other studios: THE BEATLES, NINJA TURTLES, the KFS Popeyes, innumerable Filmation series.
Since the KFS Popeyes are made by five different studios, finding the bloopers and corner-cutting is often more entertaining than the cartoons themselves. The Kinney episodes often show Popeye with two eyes! The Kneitel and Kinney shorts seem to use stock footage liberally whether it makes sense or not.
Howard Fein
09-17-2003, 02:06 PM
In the FLINSTONES Barney's eyes were (this is my FIRST editing here!) Little Orphan Annie looking early but they were filled up in later episodes.
In the last prime-time FLINTSTONES season, Barney's eyes were filled up the way Wilma's are. Wilma and Pebbles were also somewhat re-designed that season as well. Barney's eyes remained filled in through all future incarnations of the show- and cereal commercials- to this day.
One exception, and I don't know if this was intentional or not, was in the fifth season episode "A Haunted House Is Not a Home". After Fred bops Barney on the head (for scaring him with loud gargling), Barney is shown with 'normal' eyes-the kind Fred and Betty have- for a few seconds.
Of course, THE FLINSTONES practically invented the concept of a character running endlessly past the same back background objects over and over again- a convention that was parodied to great effect by Garfield: "Ever notice how long these cartoon hallways are?" :D
The Spectre
09-17-2003, 02:14 PM
"A Wild Hare" also gives Bugs a 5-finger hand for a brief shot - where it imitates a sniffer-dog looking for the carrot.
JDWeil
09-17-2003, 02:22 PM
[QUOTE=JDWeil]"The Heckling Hare" has a notable goof goof. As Bugs and the dog are falling off the cliff, thay unaccountably switch positions during the fall.
Knowing Avery, that was deliberate. It seems to fit with the ridiculously protracted plunge, and the fact that Bugs has time for a carrot during it!
I can think of several instances in which a character's mouth is not moving during dialogue. That's probably because it was decided to add a line after the animation was complete:
HAIR CONDITIONED: Though 'Gildersneeze' is voiced throughout the cartoon by someone other than Blanc, Mel does one line: "Now I'll finish you off- heheheh!" when he's pulling a rifle on Bugs behind the store counter. And his lips don't move! Obviously, Jones decided to add the line after the guest voice artist had departed so Blanc was summoned.
HAIR-RAISING HARE: :bugs1: "Look out dere- in de audience-"
DAFFY DUCK SLEPT HERE: :daffy: "Pleased to meetcha, Chubby!"
CORN ON THE COP: "If there's one thing I can't stand, it's sloppy handiwork."
Mixed-up voices are very common in any cartoon with a lot of regular characters, especially those from H-B. In one early FLINSTONE episode, Wilma speaks an entire line in Betty's voice. Throughout the run of SCOOBY-DOO, Velma and Daphne might imitate each other. In one instance, Scooby and Shaggy imitated each other! :confused: That must've been some scary monster! :shrug: Other instances of mixed-up voices occur in JOSIE & THE PUSSYCATS, HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS, SUPER FRIENDS and PAC-MAN, among others. It also happens in TV cartoons from other studios: THE BEATLES, NINJA TURTLES, the KFS Popeyes, innumerable Filmation series.
Since the KFS Popeyes are made by five different studios, finding the bloopers and corner-cutting is often more entertaining than the cartoons themselves. The Kinney episodes often show Popeye with two eyes! The Kneitel and Kinney shorts seem to use stock footage liberally whether it makes sense or not.
How about when the character's mouth moves and no dialogue comes out?
In "The Big Snooze" when Elmer starts to repair the torn contrct again, Bug's mouth moves with an apparent "What's cookin' Doc? but no dialogue is heard. It seems that the line had been recorded and then dropped at the last second or that the film editor forgot to add it to the soundtrack duruing the mixing process.
Atoon
09-17-2003, 02:42 PM
The four-five fingers goofs are very common, until today. We can see it in Animaniacs, Dexter's Lab and The Powerpuff Girls.
In The Scooby Doo Show (one with Scooby-Dum) opening, in some shot, Shaggy appears withour arms!
Tom41
09-17-2003, 03:32 PM
At the end of "Polka Dot Puss" :tomcat: :jerry: when Tom is running at Jerry with the sword, his entire figure disappears for one frame! If you run it in freeze-frame you can see a tiny bit of Tom on the right hand side of the screen. It's almost as if the cel was put in sideways or something.
The Boston Quackie
After the girl whacks the green-hat villain over the head with her handbag, the handbag disappears for one frame.
Ready, Woolen and Able
As Ralph is floating away on his only remaining balloon, waving and sticking his tongue out at Sam, Ralph’s ears disappear twice.
Cracked Quack
Daffy’s nostril disappears for one frame as he says “Stuffed duck, eh?” (HOW can I notice such tiny details?!)
In one of the Crazylegs Crane cartoons (forgot the title) there's a scene where he's trying to steal hotdogs from the beach attendant or something. Every time his arm comes up to steal the hotdog, it's colored pink and looks like a human hand! However, the last time he steals the hosepipe instead of the hotdog, it's a yellow wing-arm like it should be.
Speaking of DFE cartoons, ever seen the reanimated intro of Pink-A-Rella? Originally the witch had a wine glass which she would refill with her wand. The TV version has her carrying a chicken drumstick instead, which she replenishes with the wand. However, she still giggles, hiccups and belches (not to mention being careless from the drink), which doesn't look right at all.
I notice plenty of occasions where part of a character's arm becomes the same color as his clothing, or vice versa, for one frame. It's even more annoying when that incorrect frame is part of a repeated sequence, and keeps showing!
Example: Trap Happy :tomcat: :jerry: - when Tom and the black cat are pumping gas into Jerry's hole, the black cat's whiskers keep disappearing and reappearing as Tom pumps the handle!
In "Jerry and Jumbo", during the final scene where Tom freaks out and starts running and screaming, you can see he disappears (and reappears in one corner of the screen) for one frame, right before he hits the fence.
The Spectre
09-17-2003, 04:37 PM
Example: Trap Happy :tomcat: :jerry: - when Tom and the black cat are pumping gas into Jerry's hole, the black cat's whiskers keep disappearing and reappearing as Tom pumps the handle!
That's not the only mistake in that scene - in the first shot, the pale section down Tom's front is missing - it's colored just like the rest of him.
Similar errors crop up all over Quiet Please and Springtime for Thomas (as well as in Part-Time Pal when Jerry warns Tom not to ring the bell) where the mark between Tom's eyes isn't present, but that portion of him is colored like the rest of him - the mark was eventually eliminated some years later.
Also, in A Mouse in the House Butch (the black cat) keeps on changing from having six whiskers to four and back again.
DarthGonzo
09-17-2003, 06:41 PM
At the end of "Polka Dot Puss" :tomcat: :jerry: when Tom is running at Jerry with the sword, his entire figure disappears for one frame! If you run it in freeze-frame you can see a tiny bit of Tom on the right hand side of the screen. It's almost as if the cel was put in sideways or something.
I notice plenty of occasions where part of a character's arm becomes the same color as his clothing, or vice versa, for one frame. It's even more annoying when that incorrect frame is part of a repeated sequence, and keeps showing!
Example: Trap Happy :tomcat: :jerry: - when Tom and the black cat are pumping gas into Jerry's hole, the black cat's whiskers keep disappearing and reappearing as Tom pumps the handle!
You were looking at his whiskers? I was distracted by the fact that the grey part of Tom's belly isnt even painted in that shot, It's something you cant miss.
Take a look at some older prints of "Mouse Trouble". When :jerry: is pushing hatpins into the box where :tomcat: is hiding, there's a moment where a big black X appears over Jerry for one frame of footage.
Frank
09-17-2003, 09:16 PM
On Royal Cat Nap (1958) I noticed that Jerry is in the place of Tuffy when he points to Tom that Tuffy is going to drop something on the ground to wake up the king.
Bobby B
09-18-2003, 05:03 AM
Since the KFS Popeyes are made by five different studios, finding the bloopers and corner-cutting is often more entertaining than the cartoons themselves...The Kneitel and Kinney shorts seem to use stock footage liberally whether it makes sense or not.
Probably the most well-known one is the shot of a laughing Brutus seen through a window, from Kinney's "Ballet de Spinach".
Daffyfan2003
09-18-2003, 07:25 AM
There was a Flintstones episode, either 2nd or 3rd season, where - I swear - Wilma's entire head disappears! :eek:
Well, as I mentioned before, "The Flintstones" had more continuity errors than any other cartoon. Wilma's maiden name changed. Fred's boss' first name kept changing. First Dino talks, then he just barks. I could go on and on.
Tom41
09-18-2003, 12:40 PM
I just watched the Trap Happy segment where they're pumping gas. The light grey section of Tom's belly isn't colored only on the first shot. When Jerry comes out wearing the gas mask, Tom's light grey belly is colored again. After the cats wave to Jerry they turn back to the hole for a few more pumps - and it's at this point that the whiskers start flashing on and off. Perhaps the continuity checkers thought people wouldn't notice the grey belly and flashing whiskers for that brief couple of seconds?
One thing that's always bugged me about "Tom & Jerry in the Hollywood Bowl" is the final scene, where Jerry cuts holes in the floor and all the musicians fall through. Shouldn't the music have got simpler, instruments constantly dropping out as more and more of the cat musicians fall down? At least, that's how I would do it if directing the cartoon.
Corrado
09-18-2003, 01:35 PM
"Fred's boss' first name kept changing."
Also, in one episode, Mr. Slate was Mr. Rockhead. The design of Mr. Slate changed in some episodes, too.
Also, the place where Fred works changes names a lot during the course of the show. I still don't know the actual name. They changed it so many times.
In "Mississippi Hare", Bugs gives Col. Shuffle an explosive cigar, getting him blackened (not blackface) by the explosion, this is followed by Bugs dancing while singing "Camptown Races" with Shuffle (still blackened) playing the banjo. Bugs then tricks Shuffle to fall off the riverboat while dancing, and notice that right before Shuffle falls, his face turns from black to normal, in a split frame.
Cartman
09-20-2003, 02:25 AM
In the Farmer Alfalfa cartoon TRAILER LIFE, there is a scene where the Indian is running around a rock and his body disappears for a split second before he hides behind the rock.
Frank
09-20-2003, 03:05 AM
In the Deitch Tom and Jerrys, sometimes Tom has two toes instead of his usual three! In addition once Jerry was drawn with three toes in the cartoon Mouse into Space!
jeff_schiller
09-20-2003, 07:56 PM
In "Rabbit of Seville", Bugs cuts the toes off of Elmer's boot to do his toenails, but later in the short, his boot is fully intact.
B Mode
09-21-2003, 12:24 AM
I'm not sure if it's really an error or continuity, but Tom seems to have perfect human teeth right before they get smashed by something thrown by Jerry or another character. However, when he gets sneaky or devilish, the canine teeth are prevalent. This happens in many episodes, too many to list, but that always caught my eye. :evil:
"that boy is about as sharp as a bowling ball" - Foggy
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Mibbitmaker
09-21-2003, 11:34 AM
-In Triplet Trouble: Mammy Two Shoes's shoes change at the end of the cartoon (you have to actually watch this cartoon the whole way through to see what I mean).
In that cartoon's case, she should maybe be called "Mammy Four Shoes" :D
Also on the Flintstones, every episode with Fred & Wilma's address mentioned puts them at a different address! I don't think the street name/house number was ever the same once.
Another moment in The Big Snooze: when Bugs drinks from the bottle as he and Elmer fall near the end, at one moment, the oval part between Bugs' mouth and the top of the bottle is the color of the bottle, and another moment, it's the color of Bugs' lips. I'm still not sure if it's his lips or the top of the bottle ultimately.
Another example of no mouth moving during dialogue is in Easter Yeggs, when Bugs says, "Someone'll get hoit; namely, me!" Scenes like that remind me of the '35-'39 Popeyes.
Steve Carras
09-22-2003, 12:50 AM
[QUOTE=JDWeil]"The Heckling Hare" has a notable goof goof. As Bugs and the dog are falling off the cliff, thay unaccountably switch positions during the fall.
Knowing Avery, that was deliberate. It seems to fit with the ridiculously protracted plunge, and the fact that Bugs has time for a carrot during it!
I can think of several instances in which a character's mouth is not moving during dialogue. That's probably because it was decided to add a line after the animation was complete:
HAIR CONDITIONED: Though 'Gildersneeze' is voiced throughout the cartoon by someone other than Blanc, Mel does one line: "Now I'll finish you off- heheheh!" when he's pulling a rifle on Bugs behind the store counter. And his lips don't move! Obviously, Jones decided to add the line after the guest voice artist had departed so Blanc was summoned.
HAIR-RAISING HARE: :bugs1: "Look out dere- in de audience-"
DAFFY DUCK SLEPT HERE: :daffy: "Pleased to meetcha, Chubby!"
CORN ON THE COP: "If there's one thing I can't stand, it's sloppy handiwork."
Mixed-up voices are very common in any cartoon with a lot of regular characters, especially those from H-B. In one early FLINSTONE episode, Wilma speaks an entire line in Betty's voice. Throughout the run of SCOOBY-DOO, Velma and Daphne might imitate each other. In one instance, Scooby and Shaggy imitated each other! :confused: That must've been some scary monster! :shrug: Other instances of mixed-up voices occur in JOSIE & THE PUSSYCATS, HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS, SUPER FRIENDS and PAC-MAN, among others. It also happens in TV cartoons from other studios: THE BEATLES, NINJA TURTLES, the KFS Popeyes, innumerable Filmation series.
Since the KFS Popeyes are made by five different studios, finding the bloopers and corner-cutting is often more entertaining than the cartoons themselves. The Kinney episodes often show Popeye with two eyes! The Kneitel and Kinney shorts seem to use stock footage liberally whether it makes sense or not.Other voice inconsistencies-
As you've pointed out..Miss Prissy switching between Blanc and Benadaret (AN EGG SCRAMBLE)
A HICK A SLICK AND A CHICK Blanc(?-going by Jerry Beck's info from Grahanm Webb's expensive ANIMATED FILM ECNLYCPOEDIA but it's full of goofs reportedly) going from his unqiue dopey to a drunk voice,as the Hick and the cat sudddenly taking on a Jimmy Durante voice. The mice, esp.the hick and slick, continue to be off model most of the time.
H.R.PUFNSTUFF THE MECHANICAL BOY Lennie Weinribn, in an effort to make the Puffster sound "sad", makes him sound VERY baritone sounding..
FAGIN'S FRESHMEN, Three people over the years are listed for the title Dickenioan feline--Lionel Stander, Phil Kramer and Frank Graham!
Oddly, in HARE SPLITTER Daisy Lou (a name used in the abovmentioned HICK, A SLICK.. goes from Bea Benaderet ("EEEEE!" You BEAST You" to the Blanc-voiced dopey rabbit Cashbah) as in the above mentioned to someone else apparently when Daisy Lou Rabbit goes "Carrots" a la Julie Bennett as Cindy Bear or Janet Waldo as Penelope Pitstop (neither of whom would be doing voices until later).
Of course John K. loved to show Ranger Smith changing shape constnatly, and size in the 1998 RANGER SMITH film.
Also, Professor and Rockbottom in the 1960 TransLux/Felix the Cat/Oriolo FELIX THE CAT inconsistenly change shape (and 'Bottom is so not consistent as to the form of address for the Einstein Prof-boss, Prof.,.all in his "New York" Brooklen accent-Jack Mercer did all these voices).
NOTE: Howard Fein's post revolved partly around voices with insufficent animation of lips..I decided to comment and add on "fill in voices". Just edited this into my post at the last minute.
Corrado
09-23-2003, 01:54 PM
I mentioned before that there were lots of mistakes in "Scooby Movies." Here are my favorite.
1. When Scooby's gang meets Batman and Robin, in the scene in the cavern, Penguin says "Those tiresome teenagers". Only problem is Penguin's mouth doesn't move while Joker's does.
2. When Scooby's gang meets Davy Jones, in the castle, when Shaggy says "Cowardice.", his mouth doesn't move while Davy's does.
absolutpaul
09-24-2003, 01:12 AM
I thought of two more, and they're related! In Heir-Conditioned, when Elmer and Sylvester are watching the film, there's a scene where the rotating reels are missing from the projector. In Pre-Hysterical Hare, at the end, when Bugs is in the dark the projector reels are turning in opposite directions (impossible), and when the lights turn on (when Elmer enters) the reels stop spinning even though they are still on the soundtrack. Wouldn't a motion picture studio know how a film projector runs?????
JDWeil
09-24-2003, 05:22 AM
How the reels run depends on what kind of projector is used and how its threaded.
Daffyfan2003
09-24-2003, 07:29 AM
In the FLINSTONES Barney's eyes were (this is my FIRST editing here!) Little Orphan Annie looking early but they were filled up in later episodes.
In the last prime-time FLINTSTONES season, Barney's eyes were filled up the way Wilma's are. Wilma and Pebbles were also somewhat re-designed that season as well. Barney's eyes remained filled in through all future incarnations of the show- and cereal commercials- to this day.
I've noticed that too, but I wouldn't call it a continuity error. I think it was more of a redesign or something like that.
candy17
09-24-2003, 01:21 PM
Also, not really a goof, but definatly a nitpick, whenever we see Daphne falling and her body is upright, her skirt always stays down. Definatly not realistic.
Yeah, but it was probably done for censorship reasons (or something like that).
I have one other mistake:
-In Robot Rabbit, Bugs's line "I can see this cigarette machine is going to give me no end of trouble" was said, but not spoken by Bugs. Maybe it was a post-production add-in. (The same mistake happens in Corn Plastered)
Tom41
09-25-2003, 06:49 AM
A big goof in The Little Orphan :tomcat: :jerry: - when Nibbles first gets the hat from the pilgrim doll, it's too big for him and falls down over his eyes. You then see him constantly lifting up the hat so he can see. Then, when Nibbles is reaching for the orange (that he eats whole), the hat's a perfect fit!
It then goes back to being too large for him for the next scene, and then for the rest of the cartoon the hat fits perfectly again.
Corrado
09-25-2003, 06:30 PM
In the Flintstones when Fred and Wilma moved to an apartment complex, they're in an elevator, and Fred says "subbasement." Of course, during that, the camera cuts to an angry Wilma with her mouth open, and Fred's mouth doesn't move.
Brandon Pierce
09-25-2003, 06:48 PM
Yeah, but it was probably done for censorship reasons (or something like that).
Yeah, I kinda figured that. I'm just saying that it never looked realistic.
Althought Josie & the Pussycats got away with stuff like that lots of times.
In "Puss Gets The Boot" at the end of the cartoon when Mammy-Two-Shoes is walking across the floor, doesn't it ALMOST look like she's "skating" across the floor, because the layouts and backrounds are moving REAL fast!
In "Cinderella Meets Fella", Egghead's hands turn white when he picks up Cinderella's slipper. And in the classic "Now you KNOW she wouldn't be in here!" moment, one of the cuckoo birds disappear for a frame.
Heres another one: In Doggone Cats when Sylvester catches the package after Wellington has been pinned, in the next shot, you see the orange cat holding it.
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B Mode
09-26-2003, 03:43 PM
There are many, but the first one that pops into my mind is in "Back Alley Oproar". When Sylvester is running up and down the stairs with old work boots on, Elmer then ties him up, and he ends up with some Chuck Taylor looking tennis shoes on. We'll never know if its intentional or not. It's about 1:36 into the short.
Also, in "Hippety Hopper" the little mouse keeps pulling out Sylvesters whiskers but he always has a face full of them. At least in T&J's "Pecos Pest", Tom kept losing his whiskers. ;)
RIP Robert Palmer.
Vdubdavid
09-26-2003, 08:11 PM
That one in "Back Alley Oproar" isn't an error. Elmer, while tying Sylvester up, took his loud, clunky boots and replaced them with the soft tennis shoes so he couldn't make anymore noise.
B Mode
09-26-2003, 11:05 PM
That makes sense.
The Spectre
09-27-2003, 05:09 AM
You were looking at his whiskers? I was distracted by the fact that the grey part of Tom's belly isnt even painted in that shot, It's something you cant miss.
Which is exactly what I mentioned in the previous post. ;)
My sister spotted another mistake in that scene - when Butch realises Jerry's just walks past, Tom is oblivious to this until Butch thumps him. However, Tom's stopped pumping the gas! He seems to have frozen in mid-action.
And another one a couple of scenes later, when they pull up the wall Jerry's under, the close-up of :jerry: hitting :tomcat:'s feet with a hammer shows Butch's feet, nowhere near where they are in the wide shots.
Also, one of mine this time - the girl from The Zoot Cat's hands keep on changing from white to the color of the rest of her.
Tom41
09-27-2003, 06:04 AM
My sister spotted another mistake in that scene - when Butch realises Jerry's just walks past, Tom is oblivious to this until Butch thumps him. However, Tom's stopped pumping the gas! He seems to have frozen in mid-action.
I always thought of that as intentional. As Tom continues to pump the gas, comprehension suddenly dawns on him, then Butch (the black cat) slaps Tom for not noticing sooner.
"Puss gets the Boot" - when Tom (Jasper) first paints the mousehole on the wall and Jerry tries to run into it, it appears that the hole would be too small for Jerry to get into anyway. But when Jerry is shown dazed next to the hole, it definitely WOULD be large enough to let him in!
JDWeil
09-27-2003, 03:21 PM
This goof isn't can't be blamed on any one studio, thet've all done it.
Whenever a record player is shown, Why do the animators place the tone arm on the wrong side of player? An old-style record turns clockwise and the tone arm has to be placed on the right-hand side of the player but in every short I've seen, the tone arm is placed on the left which means the record has to run backwards. Haven't these guys ever played a record before?
Matthew Hunter
09-27-2003, 04:23 PM
In "Rabbit Of Seville", Bugs Bunny only has four fingers, except in one close-up scene of him massaging Fudd's scalp to the beat of the music. In that scene, he inexplicably grows a fifth digit, and it's gone in the next scene. :bugs1:
In "Duck Amuck", it sounds like there's a voice recording error, as if somebody goofed on the synch and rerecorded on it, only the original stayed intact. It's toward the end, when Daffy screams "Who's responsible for this!!!!" but if you listen closely, after his mouth has stopped moving there is another "this!", so it sounds almost like he's stuttering with his mouth closed. :daffy:
in "Assault and Peppered", the colors on the hats of both Daffy and Speedy Gonzales change from time to time.
-Matthew
Tom41
09-28-2003, 07:58 AM
:tomcat: :jerry: Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse - plenty of errors here with the shadows. Firstly, when Tom is carrying the bowl of fake milk away, it erupts briefly - but there's no shadow from the erupting contents on the wall! Secondly, when Jerry is mixing some more of that fake milk, when there are eruptions of smoke and stuff from the bowl, there's no shadows from them. Finally, when Tom encounters Jerry with the replacement bowl of fake milk and takes it off him, the dramatic shadows on the back wall disappear!
:bugs1: In Wideo Wabbit, the ending scene has Elmer in a pink bunny suit. Bugs sticks a cigar in Elmer's mouth and puts glasses and a fake mustache on Elmer while saying "Gee, what a Groucho". But in this final scene, the rabbit ears sticking up from Elmer's bunny suit are grey - when they were pink in the previous scenes!
The Spectre
09-28-2003, 08:10 AM
This isn't really a mistake, but Elmer sometimes loses his speech impediment for clarity's sake. For example, in Wise Quackers Elmer says "clear" as Daffy plummets to the ground at the beginning. In Robot Rabbit he says "slot" and in This Is A Life, strangest of all, he is able to say "life". (What would be wrong with an exchange like "Tell us about your wife, Bugs." "Who me? I'm not married?")
Vdubdavid
09-28-2003, 08:03 PM
In "She-Sick Sailors", the S on Bluto's Superman costume disappears after the scene in Olive's apartment.
Bobby B
09-29-2003, 03:18 AM
In "She-Sick Sailors", the S on Bluto's Superman costume disappears after the scene in Olive's apartment.
The "P" on Popeye's costume also does a disappearing act.
The Silver Fox
10-05-2003, 03:33 PM
Yes, it does..... But it's in "Great PiggyBank Robbery" and "Kitty Kornered" that it starts already sitting within the rings.
But in "Buckaroo Bugs", after he bashes Red Hot Rider to the ground the second time, Bug's mask disappears right before our eyes.
there another error to in the cartoon, that very noticable, when red hot ryder goes up to bugs before they start to follow the masked marouder, Bugs has the black bandana on around his neck, then when he stands up, the bandana disapears.
Also this does not only effect classis but modern ones to,
Gummi bears epsode Little bears lost, were the bears are arguing about who took what, sunni stands behind cubbi, and is wearing boots, but after grammi tell them to settle down, when they do a behind pan shot her boots are missing, and from front the appear again.
Scooby Doo Where are you?
many epsodes the design on the Van will change slightly, most noticable, the wheel colors will sometimes reverse.
WB's Animatiacs, Slappy squiral at Woodstock, skippy's sunglasses reapear even after slappy removes them to let him see the band on stage, WHO.
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