Sadam Hussain hero or crook?

[Ryoutarou]

I was doing some snnoping and i found out that before bush went all power hungrey and bombed iraq it was a good country.
People were not poor alot of people were smart , granted the laeder was a crazy pycopath.

But A long time ago sadam was infact a GOOD man he started school's in doing so helped the economy of Iraq he help people that were poor he was a good man.Until he started getting higher up on the power pool in Iraq's goverment he was a hero to the people of Iraq and that's why I belive that alot of iraqy people still support him.

So did bush ever find thoese WMD?? NO!!!!!! This war was useless.
Saddam rose in the ranks after a Baath coup, and by 1979 he was Iraq's president and de facto dictator. He led Iraq through a decade-long war with Iran, and in August of 1990 his forces invaded the neighboring country of Kuwait. A U.S.-led alliance organized by George Bush ran Hussein's forces out of Kuwait in the Gulf War, which ended in February of 1991 with Saddam still in power.

He went power mad and killed the presedent of Iraq and had it look like a accident.

[night]

Your kidding right?

He is a straight up crook!!!

[Tienshin]

Oh, man. Where to begin? Where I ask?

Saddam was not ever a good man. He grew up a thug and he was an assassin before he was appointed to the post of Vice President. He even commissioned a film be made of his exploits. (His cousin, later one of his cronies in the Baath party starred as “Saddam”)

He managed to usurp the then President out of power, and in a move to cement his status as absolute ruler, he read off names of “traitors” in front of the Iraqi congress, and had each individual dragged out by his secret police. He actually read the names of all 200+ members present. It went something like this: “Is Akmed a traitor….no. Is Mohammamed a traitor…yes.” By the time he was finished, the remaining members stood and applauded like Allah himself had walked into the room. Ah yes…rule by terror. Oh, and for the record those who were escorted out by his secret police were “treated with the edge of the sword.”

Saddam even had the fathers of his own daughters murdered, leaving his own daughters a widower with kids to raise because he defected out of Iraq.

He initiated the war with Iran because he feared that a similar secular coup might happen in Iraq, owing to the large Shiite population. Iran is a Shiite country and he feared that rise in power of the Ayatollah could duplicate itself and unseat him so he had the most prominent Ayatollah in Iraq arrested along with his sister, and tortured both of them. Including making the holy man watch his sister being raped repeatedly before killing the Ayatollah, by setting him afire and crushing his skull with hammers. To send a point. The 8 year war caused endless death and the introduction of chemical weapons onto the middle east battlefield killing scores of Iranian soldiers. (He would later gas the Shiites who began an uprising at the end of the 1991 Gulf War.)

As far as WMD is concerned, the search isn’t over so nothing is definite on that front. Interesting note however, a young Iraqi nuclear scientist was once asked by Saddam if he could make nuclear weapons from their existing nuclear infrastructure but in the 70’s. The scientist replied he did not have the know how to do such a thing. He was tortured for 22 days and jailed for 10 years. Upon his release he exiled himself to London. It is only recently that he was able to return. Note: The Iraqi nuclear reactor was destroyed by the Israeli Air Force in 1981 once their intelligence discovered Saddam’s plan to build a nuclear device.

Now, Saddam did build a more progressive Iraq, certainly the most progressive in the region at the time. Women could vote, get an education, and had many rights that their fellow Middle Eastern women did not. He did build an impressive infrastructure for the country as well, including roads, hospitals, schools etc. But this does not make a good leader. Hitler did all of the same things before beginning a war of aggression that brought the world to the brink of destruction. The difference? Modern society guts to step and stop him before things got out of hand.

Disagree with war if you must, but don’t base your beliefs on incomplete facts. You aren’t doing yourself any good by convincing yourself that half truths tell the whole story. Was the US policy of pre-emption a correct decision? Was Intelligence faulty? Was the best interest of the Iraqi people considered? Was the best interest of the US considered? These are good questions to answer before declaring a viewpoint because at least then, whatever you decide, you can be firm that you have analyzed the facts of the situation and arrived at a coherent and logical point of view.

[EinBebop]

Saint Saddam.

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[TimTwoFace]

Is it opposite day or something?

Sure, some evil guys may do a good thing once in a while. But Saddam is easily more crook than hero, case closed.

-Tim

[Shnay]

The reasons for going to war can be reasonably debated. Saddam's ethics cannot.

[wonderfly]

The reasons for going to war can be reasonably debated. Saddam's ethics cannot.

Well said. :cool:

[Catlover]

I was doing some snnoping and i found out that before bush went all power hungrey and bombed iraq it was a good country.
People were not poor alot of people were smart , granted the laeder was a crazy pycopath.

But A long time ago sadam was infact a GOOD man he started school's in doing so helped the economy of Iraq he help people that were poor he was a good man.Until he started getting higher up on the power pool in Iraq's goverment he was a hero to the people of Iraq and that's why I belive that alot of iraqy people still support him.

So did bush ever find thoese WMD?? NO!!!!!! This war was useless.
Saddam rose in the ranks after a Baath coup, and by 1979 he was Iraq's president and de facto dictator. He led Iraq through a decade-long war with Iran, and in August of 1990 his forces invaded the neighboring country of Kuwait. A U.S.-led alliance organized by George Bush ran Hussein's forces out of Kuwait in the Gulf War, which ended in February of 1991 with Saddam still in power.

He went power mad and killed the presedent of Iraq and had it look like a accident.

XD This is the most confused thing I've ever seen.


I was doing some snnoping and i found out that before bush went all power hungrey and bombed iraq

Where did you snoop at, www.RepublicanGuard.com? Anyway, Bush never went "power hungrey".

As for Saddam, he was a chicken thief as a little boy. He started out rotten.


People were not poor alot of people were smart

People were poor. Yes there were alot of smart people, but under Saddam's reign, they could never reach there full potentail.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

He murdered his own people. Remember Bush's Daddy when he was President. He went after Saddam.

Good thing the swear filter is on here.

[Ryoutarou]

I know i was saying ONCE he was good.

[Anthonynotes]

I know i was saying ONCE he was good.

Well, he was once on the U.S.' good *side* anyway (selling him weapons back in the 80's and whatnot---there's even a photo of Rumsfeld(?) shaking hands with Mr. Hussein).

But yeah, Saddam's about as good as month-old stale bologna...

-B.

[Anyone00]

I know i was saying ONCE he was good.

No he was never really good while in power or after, the US (and most likely Saudi Arabia at the time) just preferred him to an Iranian style theocracy, and elements in the Government thought he would become a kinder and gentler dictator(ya know no more gassing, torturing, etc.) if we were nice and gave him a bunch of agricultural credits. Whoops.