Infinity Blade
06-18-2003, 03:51 PM
This is a subject that relates to both Toonami and Adult Swim, but since I didn't want to have to create a topic for both forums, I hope this is alright. Sorry if it's not. ^^;
So, we all know that eventually, Bandai will dub every Gundam series. And most likely, every Gundam series will probably come to Cartoon Network in some form or another.
Of course, there also comes the question at times as to which block each particular series should go to, Toonami or Adult Swim. It's hard to argue that G Gundam was right at home on Toonami, while if Adult Swim in it's present form had been around when they came on TV, the UC OVAs probably should have been put on AS and edited to their standards.
Then coming out... sometime in the next year or so, we have Zeta and the new SD Gundam, most likely going to AS and Toonami (or perhaps SVES), respectively. But, out of curiosity for those that may actually know about them, where do you think the others should go, whenever they may come out?
Since it's the only unaired series I can give proper judgement on, I'll begin by speaking for the latest series out in Japan, Gundam SEED. And try to avoid major spoilers while I'm at it...
Opposed to the opinion of others I have seen, I think it could fit quite well on Adult Swim. Despite it's flashy mecha and battles, it's bishounen littered cast, and so on, SEED is more comparable to the original Mobile Suit Gundam than Wing.
It's also very... slow. It's pace is so very, very slow. Mind you, I don't mind this. But rather than making sure to cram a big battle into each and every episode, there are several episodes where there is no fighting, or very little of it. Instead, we get character development and interaction as we move towards the next big battle. Now, personally, this is the kind of thing I love. However...
This is something that could very easily turn off the younger kids that Toonami targets. Look at G Gundam, Wing, DBZ, YYH... even Kenshin. All of them are jam packed with action in nearly every episode, enough to make it so that, even if a younger kid doesn't grasp or care about the plot or characters, he'll be drawn in by the massive amount of ass kicking going on. Although SEED has some battles that are spectacular, I can't help but think the episodes that have absolutely no action could easily bore a kid and cause him to drfit away from the show. Heck, I'd imagine there are grown up fans that it could bore at times, it just depends on how one reacts to that type of thing. Plus, there's one particular plot element a quarter of the way through the series that would likely not survive in any way, shape, or form on Toonami... and taking that element out would, in my opinion, hurt the plot and development of the characters. But that's just my opinion.
There is also the fact that a majority of the cast is quite young, though, most of which ranging from 14 to 17 years old. But at the same time, the same can be said for Inuyasha, and... well, every other Gundam series with the exception of 0083 and 08th MS Team, so that's a moot point.
And of course, here we won't have people simply being erased and destroyed... something that applies to all Gundam series, I guess. :p
(I would also mention a couple of brief but graphic moments of violence in the latest eight or so episodes in Japan, but as that's not the kind of thing I dwell on when it comes to this, I won't.)
This is not to say that airing it on Toonami doesn't have it's merits, though. Despite it's slow pace and non-action episodes, it's overall designs, along with it's intense and well animated battles likely COULD appeal to the Wing crowd. Plus, whenever it comes out here, I expect a BIG marketing blitz from Bandai, and that could possibly be easier on Toonami than on Adult Swim.
The most ideal option for a series like this would be to find a place that is a happy medium between AS and Toonami... but sadly, no such place exists. So, my first choice for SEED would be Adult Swim due to the possiblity of it's pacing losing kids and certain elements that could be handled better there. Toonami, though, is likely, and probably more realistic in the grand scheme of things considering Bandai will probably be looking at it as a very big cash cow.
Either way, though, I can't wait for this series' domestic DVD release. ^^
And although I've seen very, very little of these series, I'll toss out some random guesses for a couple of others...
Gundam X - Toonami
Turn A Gundam - Adult Swim
And I'm quite certain I'm pretty accurate with Turn A, at the very least. :p
So, we all know that eventually, Bandai will dub every Gundam series. And most likely, every Gundam series will probably come to Cartoon Network in some form or another.
Of course, there also comes the question at times as to which block each particular series should go to, Toonami or Adult Swim. It's hard to argue that G Gundam was right at home on Toonami, while if Adult Swim in it's present form had been around when they came on TV, the UC OVAs probably should have been put on AS and edited to their standards.
Then coming out... sometime in the next year or so, we have Zeta and the new SD Gundam, most likely going to AS and Toonami (or perhaps SVES), respectively. But, out of curiosity for those that may actually know about them, where do you think the others should go, whenever they may come out?
Since it's the only unaired series I can give proper judgement on, I'll begin by speaking for the latest series out in Japan, Gundam SEED. And try to avoid major spoilers while I'm at it...
Opposed to the opinion of others I have seen, I think it could fit quite well on Adult Swim. Despite it's flashy mecha and battles, it's bishounen littered cast, and so on, SEED is more comparable to the original Mobile Suit Gundam than Wing.
It's also very... slow. It's pace is so very, very slow. Mind you, I don't mind this. But rather than making sure to cram a big battle into each and every episode, there are several episodes where there is no fighting, or very little of it. Instead, we get character development and interaction as we move towards the next big battle. Now, personally, this is the kind of thing I love. However...
This is something that could very easily turn off the younger kids that Toonami targets. Look at G Gundam, Wing, DBZ, YYH... even Kenshin. All of them are jam packed with action in nearly every episode, enough to make it so that, even if a younger kid doesn't grasp or care about the plot or characters, he'll be drawn in by the massive amount of ass kicking going on. Although SEED has some battles that are spectacular, I can't help but think the episodes that have absolutely no action could easily bore a kid and cause him to drfit away from the show. Heck, I'd imagine there are grown up fans that it could bore at times, it just depends on how one reacts to that type of thing. Plus, there's one particular plot element a quarter of the way through the series that would likely not survive in any way, shape, or form on Toonami... and taking that element out would, in my opinion, hurt the plot and development of the characters. But that's just my opinion.
There is also the fact that a majority of the cast is quite young, though, most of which ranging from 14 to 17 years old. But at the same time, the same can be said for Inuyasha, and... well, every other Gundam series with the exception of 0083 and 08th MS Team, so that's a moot point.
And of course, here we won't have people simply being erased and destroyed... something that applies to all Gundam series, I guess. :p
(I would also mention a couple of brief but graphic moments of violence in the latest eight or so episodes in Japan, but as that's not the kind of thing I dwell on when it comes to this, I won't.)
This is not to say that airing it on Toonami doesn't have it's merits, though. Despite it's slow pace and non-action episodes, it's overall designs, along with it's intense and well animated battles likely COULD appeal to the Wing crowd. Plus, whenever it comes out here, I expect a BIG marketing blitz from Bandai, and that could possibly be easier on Toonami than on Adult Swim.
The most ideal option for a series like this would be to find a place that is a happy medium between AS and Toonami... but sadly, no such place exists. So, my first choice for SEED would be Adult Swim due to the possiblity of it's pacing losing kids and certain elements that could be handled better there. Toonami, though, is likely, and probably more realistic in the grand scheme of things considering Bandai will probably be looking at it as a very big cash cow.
Either way, though, I can't wait for this series' domestic DVD release. ^^
And although I've seen very, very little of these series, I'll toss out some random guesses for a couple of others...
Gundam X - Toonami
Turn A Gundam - Adult Swim
And I'm quite certain I'm pretty accurate with Turn A, at the very least. :p