Do "women" really hate sci-fi, animation/cartoons?

[GL2k2]

Why is it, I look for a girlfriend and usually get no respect if I say that I read comic books and watch cartoons. Even though I could tell them, that is going to be my profession in a couple of years. There is just something sad about that. I mean damn, why is it that most women find that childish. It's not like I glue myself to the television for Hamtaro.

I am a grown man, and I know why women go for the other men, because they feel they're mature and can take care of them and all that jazz. But that is not the case with all women. But it seems that most won't even try anymore, like it's the plague. Likes and intrests should come secondly. I can't tell you how many women I've met that were self-proclaimed poets. I find that immature. especially if they aren't trying to find make it a profession.

[Senbei Norimaki]

Because most girls like guys that can kick their AS_! Seriously most girls like the bad boy. I think most girls want a guy that is going to piss off her parents. ;) I spent most of my younger years trying to figure this out.

[DarkMaster]

i've heard of Girls taking a like bubblegum crisis, ghost in the shell etc. Id have to go with no.

[Catalan]

Toon Zone's very existance should refute the old "girls don't like sci-fi, animation, comics, etc." stereotype...

[Rune]

I'm forever being told I'm 'not like other women' :confused: so maybe my reply is a bit biased or even flawed but basically its the other way around for me. I love sci-fi, cartoons n animation and reading comicbooks, always have done and always will and it drives me nuts that I get labelled as offbeat or even immature because of it. My husband isn't into that stuff but he knows I like it so he's happy to contribute to it but none of my friends will even admit to liking sci-fi or evenwatching a cartoon let alone liking them and the same goes for comicbooks although they'll happily sit there are read through some dreary romantic dross novel that has me peeling the enamel off my teeth by line five. Takes all sorts.

As to why you get no respect, well who knows. Like it or not some people have different opinions - often fostered by their parents opinions - of what constitutes a 'proper' hobby and a worthwhile - ie lucrative - career and some things are always going to be seen as being not exactly serious. Its just a bummer that something such as varied as animation which calls not only for for artistic skill but vision of all kinds gets lumped into this group. Fortunately opinion is changing as animation spreads its net to prime time and we can only hope that very soon people stop thinking that anyone who wants to work for comicbooks or the cartoon industry is simply skipping off and realises its as worthy as everything else

People let themselves be blinkered by their peers opinion too and it takes an effort to take the first steps away from the group and realise that their opinion may not really be your own, perhaps the no respect you feel you get is simply an automatic reaction, say you want to be a corporate lawyer and you might get a different reaction but why lie, when you find the girl for you she'll understand where you're coming from and even if she doesn't straight away if she likes you enough she'll embrace your interests too and maybe discover she shares them.

We women can be weird but you're right, we're not all alike and we don't all follow the herd. Hope you find this out soon and get a slice of happiness. Good luck :)

[Outlander00]

I dunno... In my case, a lot of girls I knew in college tend to like anime and comic books (and gorgeous to boot)...

My girlfriend, though, tends not to like any of those things. In fact, she thinks that my intelligence is diminishing because I watch and read that stuff. It also helps me coming up with new ideas or new techniques.

Yet, she did enjoy Gundam Wing and Macross Plus... Plus she liked X-Men, so maybe there is hope for her :p

[Elven Moon]

I'm not what you would call the "typical" girl. I don't read the girlie magazines to see what this summer's hottest lipstick or cutline tanktop is. I don't wear makeup and I don't feel I need tons of shoes to be fashionable, nor do I obsess with "finding myself a man." Instead, I like to read books, surf the internet, watch cartoons, write, draw, and indulge myself in the Japanese culture. I attend Renaissance Festivals and adore fantasy (fairies, elves, etc). It's who I am and I can't really change that. In fact I'd be unhappy being a "typical" female. So not all of us are that way ;)

[Nightflower]

I read comic books and watch cartoons. I find most girls don't have interest in them though. I was absolutely horrified at the girls on the floor of my dorm last year- almost all of them were stereotypical silly girls who cared too much about sleazy reality shows, soap operas, celebrities, and bad music.

Don't be so sure that's going to be your profession, it's a hard industry to break in. :P And don't knock self-proclaimed poets because that isn't what they want to do as a profession. Art for art's sake is a wonderful thing; whether people strum the guitar, draw, or write. Knock them if they're horribly bad. :P

[Drachentöter]

I prefer ToonZoneish females to "typical females." ;) :sweat:

But yeah, since I'm surrounded by more of the latter, it's practically impossible for me to get attention by the fairer sex.

:bosko:

Damn.

[Shnay]

Comic books and science fiction still have a stigma about them with most people. I'd say that many people, men and women, will dismiss an interest in either of these as immature, geeky, nerdy, obsessive, pointless, etc.

But, luckily, there are also many out there who don't. Keep looking, and you'll find 'em.

[Stewie]

Why is it, I look for a girlfriend and usually get no respect if I say that I read comic books and watch cartoons.
If you do ever find a woman that is not turned off by the fact that you read comic books and watch cartoons, stay away. I call her.
I've become convinced that such a woman does not exist.

As for the ladies here that like animation and such, I think you are figments of my imagination. Surely it must be so.

[ToonamiFanatic]

I dont know any girls that like scifi fantasy and watch cartoons and read comic books but hopefully some exist besides here on toonzone no offense to any women out there.seems like the only women that like the stuff I do only exists on muds multi user dungeons like online rpg with text based games.my friend has met two girls online and he even lives with one he met online in a mud shes really nice but I dont know if she likes comic books but I figure she likes fantasy

[ZorBrak]

No clue. It never worked to my advantage really, to like such things, but never worked against me. Then again maybe I don't proclaim to being a member of the geek race to obtrusively, but most girls I'm close to know what I'm like....most think it's "cute". (I don't like being called cute :p...cute makes me think of little tiny guys who can do things that make girls say "awwwwww"). Regardless, my lifestyle hasn't hurt my love life, in fact for the last 2 months or so everything's been awesome. It may be something deeper, possibly a trait many geeksposses that I don't. EX: DO NOT LIVE LIKE THE GUYS IN MALLRATS. They are true to the geekdom...but they are complete ***** to their GFs and show no motivation, sense of direction or whatever. Dunno what the dealie is but it's not a prob for me.



I can't tell you how many women I've met that were self-proclaimed poets. I find that immature. especially if they aren't trying to find make it a profession.


Why is that immature. Now granted I am a guy....but I think I am a damn good writer and I proclaim to be a poet. sooo eeeeeeee.

[Majin_Megabyte]

I know an girl who is an good friend of mine watches Invader Zim, and some animes. In my opion nothing wrong that girls watches Sci fi, cartoons, and anime. But this is just my opion.

[Sailor Chibi Otaku]

I'm not so much the the comic book scene (North American, anyway) anymore. I'm a manga fanatic!! :D Sailor Moon, Sailor V, Card Captor Sakura, Flame of Recca, X, Dukalyon (it's a short two parter by CLAMP), Dragonball, it's not a manga but graphic novel Strain (SHINGO KUSAKA!! :D :D ), and so on; anime: Sailor Moon, Card Captor Sakura, Sapceship Agga Ruter, Cowboy Bebop, Dragonball/Z/GT, Beyblade, Berzerk, Pokémon, Medabots, and so on; cartoons: Braceface, Totally Spies, Futurama, The Simpsons. I'm not really into sci-fi, but I DID see two episode of Earth: Final Conflict ("Bliss" and "Unearthed"), for a reason. *blushes* ;)

I'm a video gamer. I am the self-proclaimed Resident Evil 3: Nemesis Queen!! :D

I LOVE the Middle Ages. :D I listen to mostly metal (death/thrash/speed/heavy/symphonic). I collect figurines. I'm not in the "typical woman" category. Two more of my obsessions are reading and writing. :)

Now, if only I can find a guy who has simular tastes.

[Matthew Williams]

Actually... such a woman does exist. I'm not involved with her, don't get me wrong. But I've been hanging out with her and talking to her a bit for a few months now. Recently we both went out for coffee; it was the day of Wizard World so I was CARRYING a freaking stack of comics to begin with. She didn't mind *at all*.

Really, don't actively look for a woman who is interested in them as much as you are. If you find one, great. Look instead for a girl who has her own interests, does her own thing but *tolerates* and *respects* the fact that you're into this stuff. I think I've found one, so be known that yes, such women do exist.

[SilverKnight]

Then don't associate with those women. They're elitist air-heads anyway. Hmph, girls don't like animation by bony white butt...

[Barb Gordon]

hehe, I would think people who post here would know by now that there are girls out there that like anime/comics/video games/etc. Some girls have already pretty much posted what needs to be said. I love comics with a passion, Star Wars too. I was heavily into anime for four or five years, going to cons, cosplaying, the whole bit. I like video games, but don't tend to have time to play them, so I've just never gotten heavily into that. My best friend is a major geek, a massive Magic and Spiderman fan to boot, we loved hanging out. I'm always being told "You are sooo cool" just because I'm a girl that likes comics and Star Wars. And likes as in, beyond guys being cute and stuff (thought they are!), that I actually know what's happening, know about storylines, are interested in the art and characters, etc.

The problem is that you're not seeking out the right girl. There are loads of bimbos out there, but the intelligent ones will find you sooner or later. I've never been interested in the latest fashions or lipstick or anything. I love to shop and spend money, religiously even, but I don't dye my hair blond (red is my color, hehe) and wear clothes that don't fit me just because it's the newest "thing".

Heck, just a few moments ago I was dancing around in my Batgirl boots and gloves...so believe me, there ARE girls out there interested in stuff you are. It's a little harder to find us, but we're there, just keep looking.

~Barb

[DaphHime]

At my school girls and guys who like animation, video games, ect are pretty equal in number. There are times at anime club when the number of girls in attendance out number that of the guys.

And I've always thought that things like fantasy (you know like princesses, casltes, wizards and stuff like that.) was a very femmin thing to be intrested in. But that's just me.

Even as a pre-teen, I was never into makeup and fashion and what not. Stuff like that bored me. "Oh wow! I can't wait to see the latest color of lipstick!!" :rolleyes: Honestly, why whould you want to put that crap on you? I mean for a formal occasion maybe but everyday? Even if your just going to the store? What's the point? I don't even see the point of wearing makeup to school, just going to get messy anyway.

And yes I am female. :p And I'm not a figmant of your imageantion.

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Hy, GL, you should come visit SCAD sometime. When I was there over the summer, we had a crew of around 20-25 people who gathered every Friday night to watch Zim, Samurai Jack, random things on the Sci-Fi channel, whatever anime we had around, and then gathered to watch MST3K on Saturday morning. Usually About 8-10 of us (including me, all you wiseasses in the peanut gallery) were female. Those of us who are starting back at SCAD this fall are planning on upholding the tradition.

[Warnergirls]

hmmm.. well... my opinion on this would be that every person is different, Yes there are many who want the bad boy or some that arnt interested in guys who like cartoons. As for me.... im a cartoon nut myself, as for the guy id like to be, all i care about is that he loves me for who i am and isnt too possessive. and maybe likes the same things i like.. but i wouldnt mind if he was different than me either...
anyway so yeah, everyones different, dont judge a whole gender too quickly :)

[GL2k2]

Number one, I will say this. I am looking for a "woman" that likes the same stuff as men. That's why the title header reads "WOMEN" in parentheses. Also, it would be nice to find someone that is not in the industry already that likes this stuff. Most actresses and models and such are artists and are already open-minded. But here in the real world of women who are lawyers, nurses, and professionals, usually don't go for that stuff. I have met a few who read Stephen King and read Cathy in the Newspaper and maybe watch the Simpsons and think the Matrix is cool. But look at that? That's typical of most anyone. There are no "women" who know who Chuck Jones is. Who remember watching Voltron as a kid or if they did blocked it out and don't care. Who actually analyze movies like the Sixth Sense, Star Wars, and the Matrix. This woman, I am coming to believe does not exist. I don't even think half of the females on this board "really" know or delve into the stuff like a guy would.

I almost feel some women are just vapid and don't care about anything but what's cool for the moment. They are the creators of gossip and fashion among other bores in this life. But when it comes to the things that are everlasting that may actually mean something in this life and the next, they could give a rip. I am of course not saying "ALL" women are like this, but I do believe most are.

Also, I am in school for a BA in Computer Animation. I will find a job. It's not hard to break into if you have a gift and go for it, and keep going for it. People just give up on being an artist because, well look how this country and most of the world treat the arts, like Sci-Fi and Animation.
I.E., we should not have to have an organization called "SAVE THE MUSIC", that's ashame.

[Rune]

I don't even think half of the females on this board "really" know or delve into the stuff like a guy would.

Referring to TZ, I think you might be surprised to learn it doesn't work quite the way you're seeing it and also - albeit hopefully unintentionally - by making that statement you're insulting a lot of women who post here. Are you basing that statement on an assumption formed from reading how women actually reply to threads in TZ or is it just some nebulous statement pulled out of the air in a moment of frustration?
Either way I'm sure it could be turned around and applied equally to the males who post here too - except it wouldn't be the truth any more than your original statement.


I almost feel some women are just vapid and don't care about anything but what's cool for the moment. They are the creators of gossip and fashion among other bores in this life. But when it comes to the things that are everlasting that may actually mean something in this life and the next, they could give a rip. I am of course not saying "ALL" women are like this, but I do believe most are.

I appreciate what you're saying about not "all" women are like this and I'll admit that some of friends are indeed just as those women you described but again remember it works both ways and at the end of the day men and women are always going to be a little different, its just in their nature. Many men I've come across have appeared as vapid as those women you mention, caring only for the pleasure of the moment, hanging out with the lads, drinking, watching the game, making lewd jokes, not showering often enough, collecting girlfriends, into fast cars and dodgy bars ie shallow and self-centred! I could dredge up an endless list of faults to chuck their way but they would all be wrongly based on assumption.

Age does play a big factor in what we do and what we like and how we set our future targets but the real trick in getting what you want in life or even love is learning to accomodate other peoples differences not stomping all over them because they're not to your taste, it takes is a little effort but everything worthwhile always does. You obviously feel strongly about animation's place in the artsworld so use that to your advantage without bludgeoning whoevers in the firing line or dismissing them right away because they don't know about a certain cartoon. Pique somebody's interest and it snowballs and pretty soon you're on your way. Good luck with your career :)

[GL2k2]

Referring to TZ, I think you might be surprised to learn it doesn't work quite the way you're seeing it and also - albeit hopefully unintentionally - by making that statement you're insulting a lot of women who post here. Are you basing that statement on an assumption formed from reading how women actually reply to threads in TZ or is it just some nebulous statement pulled out of the air in a moment of frustration?
Either way I'm sure it could be turned around and applied equally to the males who post here too - except it wouldn't be the truth any more than your original statement.



I appreciate what you're saying about not "all" women are like this and I'll admit that some of friends are indeed just as those women you described but again remember it works both ways and at the end of the day men and women are always going to be a little different, its just in their nature. Many men I've come across have appeared as vapid as those women you mention, caring only for the pleasure of the moment, hanging out with the lads, drinking, watching the game, making lewd jokes, not showering often enough, collecting girlfriends, into fast cars and dodgy bars ie shallow and self-centred! I could dredge up an endless list of faults to chuck their way but they would all be wrongly based on assumption.

Age does play a big factor in what we do and what we like and how we set our future targets but the real trick in getting what you want in life or even love is learning to accomodate other peoples differences not stomping all over them because they're not to your taste, it takes is a little effort but everything worthwhile always does. You obviously feel strongly about animation's place in the artsworld so use that to your advantage without bludgeoning whoevers in the firing line or dismissing them right away because they don't know about a certain cartoon. Pique somebody's interest and it snowballs and pretty soon you're on your way. Good luck with your career :)

I did not mean to sound like a woman basher or that all women on Toonzone (who I wouldn't really know unless I sat and asked everybody and then in reality still wouldn't truly "know") are dumb to animation and sci-fi. But I will say that I was heated about it. This question arose in one of my classes, and the chicks in my class are not even into that stuff really, it's a job to them. They can't even draw! They like to mess around on the computer with photoshop and stuff but In my opinion they ain't artists. Half if not all the women or girls in my school who are students are in interior design or culinary or multimedia which is kinda like webs designing and stuff of the computer nature. Don't get me wrong there are a couple of females in Animation too, but there's no love for it. They don't draw there own characters or even know about there future profession. I can name you ten animators or cartoons not from this decade or the 90's. I admit I am a geek and I immersed myself in knowledge of these things, but when I measure the females and the males, they don't "really" care. I will assume that it must be genetic.

I've recently been reconsidering finding a female in my personal likes. It is hopeless. I am probably going to just find someone with a creative flair for something, even cooking or something, but I won't dare try to find a woman that knows what I like.

It's sad, because I know women who are hardcore about alot of male driven things like Firefighting, weightlifting, cars, and so on and so on. But when it comes to cartoons, comic books, science fiction films and novels. Nope. There is just something very wrong there. I am done with this discussion.

[Harley]

I did not mean to sound like a woman basher or that all women on Toonzone (who I wouldn't really know unless I sat and asked everybody and then in reality still wouldn't truly "know") are dumb to animation and sci-fi. But I will say that I was heated about it. This question arose in one of my classes, and the chicks in my class are not even into that stuff really, it's a job to them. They can't even draw! They like to mess around on the computer with photoshop and stuff but In my opinion they ain't artists. Half if not all the women or girls in my school who are students are in interior design or culinary or multimedia which is kinda like webs designing and stuff of the computer nature. Don't get me wrong there are a couple of females in Animation too, but there's no love for it. They don't draw there own characters or even know about there future profession. I can name you ten animators or cartoons not from this decade or the 90's. I admit I am a geek and I immersed myself in knowledge of these things, but when I measure the females and the males, they don't "really" care. I will assume that it must be genetic.

I've recently been reconsidering finding a female in my personal likes. It is hopeless. I am probably going to just find someone with a creative flair for something, even cooking or something, but I won't dare try to find a woman that knows what I like.

It's sad, because I know women who are hardcore about alot of male driven things like Firefighting, weightlifting, cars, and so on and so on. But when it comes to cartoons, comic books, science fiction films and novels. Nope. There is just something very wrong there. I am done with this discussion.

Then consider me the genetic abberation.

I remember Voltron. I remember Bionic Six. Mighty Max. Exo-Squad. Gargoyles. BTAS. Animaniacs. Freakazoid. TNBA. Superman. I remember the awe I felt the first time I saw the animation in the Thundercats opening. I remember watching, Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and deciding that when I grew up I needed to have something to do with comics and animation.

I've been reading comics since I could read. My mother read and will still read comics as well. I've gotten male friends into comics... who never picked them up before.

And as an artist, I have a ways to go to get to where I want to be, but I can draw.
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In college, I snuck in through the back stage of an auditorium at SVA, just so I could get a glimpse of Chuck Jones. Luckily, we didn't get kicked out. And oddly, I was probably one of the few people there with the best seat in the house. I got to see Chuck Jones sketch, and not through the screen most of the other people had to watch on. I still look back at that picture I got to have taken with him every now and then and have a moment where I'm in complete awe of ever actually having the opportunity to have met the man.

That's right, I'm a chick and I love comics and animation. I'm not in it because it's a fad, or the cool thing to do right now. I'm not in it just to keep the bills paid. (If I wanted to keep the bills paid easily, I'd still be in sales.) I'm in it because I've *always* been into it and I'm a bit insulted that you're insisting I do not exist. I assure you, I do, and so do other women who share that love. I admit, we're rare. But we're out there. And you won't find them by insisting they do not exist, because they'll be just as insulted.

To boot, why look for someone who has the same exact interests as you? Why isn't being open to the idea enough? Part of the fun of being in a relationship is exposing each other to ideas that might be new to the other. It helps keep things fresh and interesting, and I'm saying that after 8 years with the same guy.

Anyway, I've gotta run. Finding Nemo *can't* be sold out three weeks in a row. Later.

[James]

GL2K2 - please, if you hands are getting sore from digging that big hole, I'll hold the shovel and you can just jump in now... :p

I've met girls here and, erm, not here who are fine artists, who like comics, who like scifi. Some a lot, some just a bit. Some like a certain genre only, some like the whole lot (that's sooo cool)...

Yes, they are not to be found round every corner, but then neither is the non nerdy scifi/comic guy. Like me. :D

I would be hard pushed to think of a friend who is a girl who doesn't like at least one aspect of what you describe.

(Here at TZ we have loads of cool scifi/anime/cartoons obsessed girls (and they are all bloody super!). My sister, who is a (reasonably cool) 20 year old loves scifi and comics. She's not overkeen on cartoons (aside from Futurama) but she's a great artist too!

Look harder GL2K2!

[wonderfly]

Yeah, most women I've come across in real life (since leaving my teen years behind) don't like comics and cartoons. I don't take it personally, I just realize that comics and cartoons have a stygma to them, and I'm just considered an oddball by society, (as are most of you guys and gals here. C'mon, EMBRACE YOUR ODDBALLNESS! :p )

My girlfriend isn't into any of this stuff, but I did get her to like Ranma 1/2 for a while, (she was a little disgruntled with the amount of nudity at times, but laughed her butt off)...I never could get her to like Dragon Ball Z, she likes Pokemon, (as did I in it's early years)...

As for comics, she knows better than to get between me and my love of comics. I never got her into reading them actually, but I've explained constantly over the last few years the ups and downs to Spiderman and Mary Jane's relationship, (she was disheartened like I was to learn that they split up in the comics for a bit) and she was saddened when I told her that Bruce Banner's wife died...I guess she likes the soap opera aspects of comics, :p

She once commented that Mrs. Marvel, (aka Warbird)'s costume was too ludicrous, that women would never wear that sexy of an outfit to fight crime...I said it's basically the same costume she's worn since the 1960's, and I can help it if today's artist draw her much...sexier. :)

Oh, and as far as movies, she loves Disney Movies, (our first movie date was to see Hercules, the Disney flick) and she liked Mulan...I got her to see Final Fantasy: The Spirit's Within with me, and actually, we both walked away a bit disappointed, (though we both thought it was okay). I got her to see Spiderman with me, and we both liked it, same with Xmen, (though both films weren't really her cup of tea), but we both went to see Lord of the Rings: FOTR together, and we both LOVED it, (even if she was offput by it's length)...and she was like at the end: "You mean they didn't destroy the Ring? Good Gawd!" to which I had to reply, "The whole point of the trilogy is to destroy the ring, so guess what: That doesn't happen till the end of the Third movie! If it happened at the end of the 1st, what would the next two flicks be about?!?!"

[Calico]

To boot, why look for someone who has the same exact interests as you? Why isn't being open to the idea enough? Part of the fun of being in a relationship is exposing each other to ideas that might be new to the other. It helps keep things fresh and interesting, and I'm saying that after 8 years with the same guy.



Bingo! First of all, nobody is going to find a carbon copy of themselves, and why would you want to? Half the fun is discovering things about each other as well as developing interests in common. However you're not always going to mesh pefectly. My husband loves professional wrestling, which I find abhorrent, yet I still go with him to any live events that come our way. He went to Matrix: Reloaded with me, and after I spent fifteen minutes babbling on about it he says, "I didn't really like it." :eek: Yet there are plenty of other movies we both enjoy, video games we play together and just today we were checking out a comic book store and showing each other things.

Just find a woman you like in general, and don't sweat the specifics so much.

[EinBebop]

Toon Zone's very existance should refute the old "girls don't like sci-fi, animation, comics, etc." stereotype...My very single existence supports this stereotype. :)

[Catalan]

My very single existence supports this stereotype. :)That could be taken more than one way.

[Jade_GL]

I know I'm not typical as a woman, but I have loved all kinds of "un-girly" stuff all my life. Star Trek, comic books, video games, action movies, action figures, etc, etc, etc.

The women are out there, I know because a) I am one, b) I know at least 3 people who are similar from high school and college, and c) This website has many female participants who shatter that stereotype.

I think that I've never been into the same things as some of my female friends. But I also have the chick tendencies too, like watching An Affair ro Remember and crying my eyes out by the end or in the way I oogle shoes and kitchy jewelry. I think you can be both, of course, love the action movies or comics, and the "chick flicks" and whatever as well.

You don't have to find someone who likes what you like, but I think you should find someone who respects your choices in what you like. Like, for instance, if you like comics and she says "Why are you wasting your money on kid's stuff?" that wouldn't be a very good match for you. However, if she said something more along the lines of "I may not be into it, but I'll read them with you for an hour a day" or some sort of compromise, that may be better. Or, even if there isn't a sharing of likes, there should at least not be any type of downing on someone else's loves and hobbies, especially if, as you said, you intend for it to become a career or it is already your career. I think you can hate what someone else likes, but you can let them have their own hobbies and not make fun of it or force them to be more like you.

I don't know, that was kind of a rant. But I know that people shouldn't be alike, but they shouldn't think that just because they have different likes that it makes their's better or the more mature choice in the end.

Then again, I just spent money on the new Armor Attack versions of the JL figures and my BF and I watch his DS9 season sets all the time, so maybe I should just quit while I'm ahead. :D:D:D

[StarScream64]

To add to the list:
I guess I'm not your typical gal, either. I play video games, I watch cartoons (despite the strange looks I get), AND I do Sci-fi. I've managed to sit through six-plus years of SG-1. :D Although, I've never heard of any kind of female stygma against sci-fi. And I probably would have gotten into comics if I ever went out to have a life. :sweat:

As am matter of fact, most people here probably think I'm a guy because I picked the name "StarScream64." *evil chuckle*

[czyznyck99]

There are are bigger and smaller things to do in life than watch cartoons. It just happens that more women participate in those activities.

Later.

[Patrick Bateman]

Why is it, I look for a girlfriend and usually get no respect if I say that I read comic books and watch cartoons. Even though I could tell them, that is going to be my profession in a couple of years. There is just something sad about that. I mean damn, why is it that most women find that childish. It's not like I glue myself to the television for Hamtaro.

I am a grown man, and I know why women go for the other men, because they feel they're mature and can take care of them and all that jazz. But that is not the case with all women. But it seems that most won't even try anymore, like it's the plague. Likes and intrests should come secondly. I can't tell you how many women I've met that were self-proclaimed poets. I find that immature. especially if they aren't trying to find make it a profession.
Do like I did - find your girlfriend in a place where comic and animation fans commute. ;)

[sKorpia]

I think the answer is no. But only because "hate" is a too strong a word. It's more likely that most women have no interest and therefore no appreciation for either of these genres.

And then there are the other women, like my roommate, who like the genre but don't have the guts to say so in public because they're worried about image. When people ask my roommate why she watches cartoons or reads comic books, her response is, "Oh, because I have a younger brother and I like to know what he's interested in so that I have something to talk to him about." Let me tell you, that's a load of crap. Her bro doesn't really read comics. He's more into snowboarding and stuff like that. So why does she give that response? Because she's not at all comfortable with being labeled a "dork." (Btw, I'm appropriating the word and making it cool. Because honestly, the coolest and most interesting people on this planet are dorks. We rock! :D )

I know girls who don't mind cartoons but most of them like certain male characters because they are hot and aren't much into literary analysis or psychological development. But then again, they aren't the only ones who maintain a surface-level contact with these genres. It's difficult to find people of either gender who enjoy bringing the discussion about comics and sci-fi to a more academic level.

If this is really important to you, don't settle. At the very least, find someone who is open-minded enough and who is willing to let you expose them to a whole new experience. Anyone who immediately tries to shut you down or brush off the genres isn't worth your time anyway.

[Starflyer 58]

Personally, I have trouble finding GUYS who like sci-fi, animation, comics, etc. I dunno if it's just where I live, or what. They find out I'm a Star Wars fan, or that my favorite store is the Comic Cellar, or something similar and I get a strange look.

[panther3751]

Oh, good grief.

I'm a female. And I'm probably just as much of a geek as you are, if not more.

I tend to memorize Star Trek episodes. I've read hundreds of science fiction books from Issac Assimov to Robert Heinlien. (excuse any misspelling, due to the late hour.) ZARK, I'm a huge Dr. Who fan. I bet most of you don't even know who Dr. Who is.

I've played Adventure, Zork I, II, and III, Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and quite a few other MUDs (that's text-adventure games to you). I play NetHack and I play Warcraft. I am even considering joining a scifi MUCK.

I like watching OLD kung-fu movies, too. Causes a great feeling of joy.

Don't get me started on scifi animes.

I've been following X-Men and Batman comics for years now.

I play Dungeons and Dragons, Shadowrun, Jadeclaw, and BESM.

I play Magic the Gathering, too.

I'm a Computer Science major, and that means I'm a programmer. Not a blond poser who'll eventually become a business major, but a real programmer who likes coding in her spare time.

The fact that you say it must be all genetic offends me. I'm thinking about putting my old roomate, a female even geekier than I am, onto this thread.

I am female, and I am a geek. I LOVE SCI FI! I LOVE ACTION!

And I'll be deeply offended if you say the only reason I like it is because of the "hot guys or something."

[BLACKHEART]

To say women hate “Science Fiction and Cartoons” would be like saying, “BLACKHEART hates red text.” It is uneducated to make blanket statements of this kind.

What if I said, “All men like cars.” What would you say?

[Drachentöter]

To say women hate “Science Fiction and Cartoons” would be like saying, “BLACKHEART hates red text.” It is uneducated to make blanket statements of this kind.

What if I said, “All men like cars.” What would you say?


You're......right? :confused: :anime:

[BLACKHEART]

Maybe but I've seen a lot of men recently who don't even know how to change the oild in their cars. So I think the old sterotype of all guys love cars is slowly fading away.

What if I said, "Video games are to blame."

:)

[wonderfly]

Maybe but I've seen a lot of men recently who don't even know how to change the oild in their cars. So I think the old sterotype of all guys love cars is slowly fading away.

What if I said, "Video games are to blame."

:)


Yes! I agree wholeheartidly!

I don't know how to change the oil in my car, (well, I did it once years ago, so I'm pretty sure I can do it again) but my point is: I don't like Cars! I don't like sports! Why is it, when men are striking up a conversation in a room, and the topic of your car comes up, they all start getting technical.

One will ask me, "So what type of engine do you got in your car?"

And I'm like, "uh, the type that gets me from point A to point B?" But nooo, I'm supposed to say, "It's a 6 cylinder, 300 horsepower, superduper technolingo that I have no idea what I'm talking about."

Same with sports. Men will talk and all of a sudden the conversation will turn to sports: "So, did you watch the game last night?"

And I'm thinking to myself, "Uh, what game? What sport? What are you concluding that just because I'm a man, that I'm watching the same sportsgame as you?"

So I'll cop out and say, "Yeaaaah...."

And he'll say, "Did you see that one play? Man, what did you think about that?"

And I'll be like, "Yeaaahhhh...it was great."

God, how I love cartoons and comics, but man, most men that are into cars and sports expect all fellow men to know exactly what they're talking about...

[Nightflower]

Yes! I agree wholeheartidly!

I don't know how to change the oil in my car, (well, I did it once years ago, so I'm pretty sure I can do it again) but my point is: I don't like Cars! I don't like sports! Why is it, when men are striking up a conversation in a room, and the topic of your car comes up, they all start getting technical.

One will ask me, "So what type of engine do you got in your car?"

And I'm like, "uh, the type that gets me from point A to point B?" But nooo, I'm supposed to say, "It's a 6 cylinder, 300 horsepower, superduper technolingo that I have no idea what I'm talking about."

Same with sports. Men will talk and all of a sudden the conversation will turn to sports: "So, did you watch the game last night?"

And I'm thinking to myself, "Uh, what game? What sport? What are you concluding that just because I'm a man, that I'm watching the same sportsgame as you?"

So I'll cop out and say, "Yeaaaah...."

And he'll say, "Did you see that one play? Man, what did you think about that?"

And I'll be like, "Yeaaahhhh...it was great."

God, how I love cartoons and comics, but man, most men that are into cars and sports expect all fellow men to know exactly what they're talking about...
Oh yeah. Last year in my dorm, every single girl on the floor was into stupid celebrities, soaps, reality shows, and silly magazines, and every guy was into sports and cars. And they all listened to mainstream rap, R&B, and hiphop. People always say that college is when people start being different and being themselves and it's far better than high school, but not for me. It was frightening how mundane everyone was. O_o

[Sue_Jackson]

Hey.....I'm a woman......and love edgy/angsty anime, action/adventure, sci-fi cartoons/animation. And.....loved ever since I was a little girl. When I was a child, I grew up watching G.I. Joe, He-Man, Transformers, Voltron, G-Force, ThunderCats, Jonny Quest, SuperFriends, etc. And.....I still enjoy those type of animation....and especially now that I'm an adult.....I can appreciate the more edgy and angsty animation.......e.g. Cowboy Bebop, Inuyasha, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rouini Kenshin, Justice League, Samurai Jack, He-Man, other Adult Swim stuff, etc. :anime:

Sure I like the cute and funny shows, too.....e.g. Hamtaro, Smurfs, Snorks, Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Scooby-Doo, etc. But, I guess you can call me diverse when it comes to animation. My reason for watching certain animation is simple, I just watch what whatever appeals to me, and because I just happen to like it. :p

[ZorBrak]

A new thing to ponder-
I was at the Heroes Con the other day and saw quite a few hot girls. The problem I noticed was that NONE of them were alone. Not one. Hot girl, oh there's the ring on the finger or the bf right there with her, never failed. Why is that ya think?

[Angel_Baby]

I've always liked that knid of stuff, but I grew up around it, my brother collects comics and stuff and I hasve seen like all those superhero movies and stuff. Plus I just started watching anime this summer and I love it ! It is so awsome! so not all " women" hate it!

~jenn :p

[Donna lady]

A new thing to ponder-
I was at the Heroes Con the other day and saw quite a few hot girls. The problem I noticed was that NONE of them were alone. Not one. Hot girl, oh there's the ring on the finger or the bf right there with her, never failed. Why is that ya think?
That it's true what they say--all the good ones are already taken. ;)

[Theking]

Well my wife does fit into that mold.

She doesn't like the new anime stuff but she was way into the stuff like ThunderCats and GIJoe but she isn't into the new stuff like me.

TheKing

[Andy Mancini]

Comic books and science fiction still have a stigma about them with most people. I'd say that many people, men and women, will dismiss an interest in either of these as immature, geeky, nerdy, obsessive, pointless, etc.
There is a commercial for Comcast Digital Cable that says that exact thing. The spot features a really good looking woman wearing a tight dress being hit on by two stereotypical nerds (thick glasses, pocket protector, suspenders, etc) at a party. She tries to leave, but the nerds keep on following her. The shallow, shallow woman then puts on Star Trek, making the nerds ignore her and focus all of their attention to Kirk and Spock. The more things like this there are, the more "the mainstream" will believe that "geeky women" don't exist.

Oh, and far as the commercial goes, I've only seen it once, and it was during Lupin III. Brilliant move there guys...