Power Rangers Reloaded and Future Dragon Rider

[Dr Kain]

Here is an article from www.Henshinonline.com

According to Hollywood insiders, Village Roadshow Productions is readying Toei's current Sentai Series RAGING DINOSAUR TASK FORCE: ABARANGER for the Power Rangers treatment as POWER RANGERS: RELOADED (tentative title). Why "Reloaded"? Not only is it a painfully obviously play on the recent MATRIX sequel, but the series features a dinosaur motif similar to DINOSAUR TASK FORCE: ZYURANGER which debuted on Fox Kids as the original MIGHTY MORPHIN' POWER RANGERS in the fall of 1993.
Because of the relative success of POWER RANGERS: NINJA STORM and the upcoming POWER RANGERS 10-year anniversary, Village Roadshow Productions is gearing up to bring Toei's MASKED RIDER back to North American airwaves. Originally, Saban Entertainment took 1988's MASKED RIDER BLACK-RX -- with additional footage from the theatrical featurette MASKED RIDER ZO -- and launched the ratty pastiche as "Saban's Masked Rider." Despite a cross-over on the third season of the popular POWER RANGERS in 1995 ("A Friend In Need" Parts I-III), the series failed to achieve a following.


RAGING DINOSAUR TASK FORCE: ABARANGER © TV Asahi/Toei AG/Toei
Fast-forward to 2003, auditions have been taking place for the next attempt to bring the "Masked Rider" franchise to the US in the "Power Rangers"-style format. The series being adapted is last year's hit, MASKED RIDER RYUKI (or "Masked Rider Dragon Knight"). As for time of this writing, insiders have divulged that the tentative title for RYUKI's US adaptation is currently FUTURE DRAGON RIDER.

If all goes well for Village Roadshow Productions, expect POWER RANGERS: RELOADED and FUTURE DRAGON RIDER to premiere Saturday mornings this fall on ABC-TV.

All I can say is they are going to tear Ryuki to pieces. For one thing, they will have to tone down Asakura/Oja from being a sadistic killer, they will probably turn Tezuka/Raia into a female since his costume is pink, Shinji/Ryuki will probably be some prep that says "dude" all the time, Ren/Knight will most likely be a black person, I doubt Suichi/Zolda will be dying of cancer. I also have a feeling that any rider who dies would just lose their powers instead of being killed, and that you will never see anyone actually pulled inside the mirror world from the monsters unless they are people who are saved. I'm just wondering if they will actually have a Shiro and Yui, or if they will totally obliterate that and make it some alien villian dude like Lothor (Ninja Storm).

Oh god I am very afraid of what they will do to Ryuki. More afraid than what they will do to AbaRanger. :(

[SNS]

Fall? But isn't Ninja Storm supposed to have 40 episodes? :confused:

[sag_2002]

...they will probably turn Tezuka/Raia into a female since his costume is pink...

I actually wouldn't mind that.

Fall? But isn't Ninja Storm supposed to have 40 episodes?

They'll probably drop in some reruns during the summer when the college football season starts... and once the final episode airs, it'll be back to square one regardless. Besides, September comes quicker than you expect.

[SNS]

No, I meant I don't know how they are going to show all 40 episodes before September (considering they are only in like episode 13 or a little higher)

[Burgundy Ranger]

1. Ninja Storm will have 38 episodes (confirmed by co-Exec. Producer Doug Sloan). They'll air throughout the summer and conclude in November.

2. There have been several challenges, rebuttals and eventual retractions of everything involving "Reloaded" and the new Masked Rider series. Looks like both are bogus. Yeah, there will be an Americanization of Abaranger for PR. It just won't be called "Reloaded."

[The Drizzle]

Here is an article from www.Henshinonline.com

According to Hollywood insiders, Village Roadshow Productions is readying Toei's current Sentai Series RAGING DINOSAUR TASK FORCE: ABARANGER for the Power Rangers treatment as POWER RANGERS: RELOADED (tentative title). Why "Reloaded"? Not only is it a painfully obviously play on the recent MATRIX sequel, but the series features a dinosaur motif similar to DINOSAUR TASK FORCE: ZYURANGER which debuted on Fox Kids as the original MIGHTY MORPHIN' POWER RANGERS in the fall of 1993.
Because of the relative success of POWER RANGERS: NINJA STORM and the upcoming POWER RANGERS 10-year anniversary, Village Roadshow Productions is gearing up to bring Toei's MASKED RIDER back to North American airwaves. Originally, Saban Entertainment took 1988's MASKED RIDER BLACK-RX -- with additional footage from the theatrical featurette MASKED RIDER ZO -- and launched the ratty pastiche as "Saban's Masked Rider." Despite a cross-over on the third season of the popular POWER RANGERS in 1995 ("A Friend In Need" Parts I-III), the series failed to achieve a following.


RAGING DINOSAUR TASK FORCE: ABARANGER © TV Asahi/Toei AG/Toei
Fast-forward to 2003, auditions have been taking place for the next attempt to bring the "Masked Rider" franchise to the US in the "Power Rangers"-style format. The series being adapted is last year's hit, MASKED RIDER RYUKI (or "Masked Rider Dragon Knight"). As for time of this writing, insiders have divulged that the tentative title for RYUKI's US adaptation is currently FUTURE DRAGON RIDER.

If all goes well for Village Roadshow Productions, expect POWER RANGERS: RELOADED and FUTURE DRAGON RIDER to premiere Saturday mornings this fall on ABC-TV.

I'm 98% sure that's fake information.

[Dr Kain]

I'm 98% sure that's fake information.

Why do you think that?

[The Drizzle]

Why do you think that?

Nevermind what I said. I could've sworn that it mentioned MMPR Productions, which no longer exists. It does not actually mention MMPR Prod. in the article though. I have no idea what I was thinking.

[JohnCrichton]

I know the guy and it's 100% real information.

More than likely the show won't be called, Reloaded, but a source close to production came across a scripted that was titled, Power Rangers: Reloaded.

I was gold that on a Wild Force script they had Princess Shayla as Princess Rinoa, so nothing on a prelimnary script holds much weight.

So yeah, new incarnatons will be coming, but who knows what will happen in between then and now.

[PowerZord]

Excuse me for sayin this..

But more readaptations? i thought Ninja storm was the last

[Matthan]

Excuse me for sayin this..

But more readaptations? i thought Ninja storm was the last

This seems odd coming from someone who has "zord" in their name. Why would readaptations (or PR as many of us call it) end? They are still profitable and the original subject material (sentai) wouldn't fly with U.S. censors as a children's show. As for Ryuki being adapted, I bet they are gambling that they can make money off that as well. I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that business wise, getting the rights to a show like this shaves off some overhead costs and helps line up with more profits. Readapting these shows are wonderful. I for one love PR and look forward to next year's incarnation and seeing where Ninja Storm takes us. I am also looking forward to seeing what is done with Ryuki. I think it'll be good and even if not, we'll get some great toys.

~Matthan

[NinjaJack]

This seems odd coming from someone who has "zord" in their name. Why would readaptations (or PR as many of us call it) end? They are still profitable and the original subject material (sentai) wouldn't fly with U.S. censors as a children's show. As for Ryuki being adapted, I bet they are gambling that they can make money off that as well. I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that business wise, getting the rights to a show like this shaves off some overhead costs and helps line up with more profits. Readapting these shows are wonderful. I for one love PR and look forward to next year's incarnation and seeing where Ninja Storm takes us. I am also looking forward to seeing what is done with Ryuki. I think it'll be good and even if not, we'll get some great toys.

~Matthan

Bravo! Bravo! Well said Matt, PR isn't ending with Ninja Storm, just like it didn't end with Wild Force, Time Force, Lightspeed Rescue, Lost Galaxy and PRIS.
And I think the more imports the better, toku is a great thing that shouldn't be limited to the japanesse audiences.

[Matthan]

Always nice to receive praise. Thanks, NinjaJack. Here's the thing I don't understand and maybe someone here can clear up my misconception. Most of the people who are bothered by "readapting" or "Americanizing" these series are fans of the original shows. Frequent comments are made about butchering a show. The American shows are made with consent from the Japanese companies though. The companies are interested in brand extension. From what I understand, PR even airs in Japan. From a business standpoint, it borders on genius. You can lift elements from a show and insert it into another show in a different culture. Thus, you spread out production costs on all levels. Toy sculpts can even be carried over. Think about it for one moment, and you'll see that the business decision to do this helps insure that you'll be happily entertained for years to come.

My biggest failure to understand is how this different product truly effects the original. It's getting to the point (or perhaps it is even already there) where fans of live action shows (or tokusatsu) are trying to eat their young. Does the making of PR effect the Sentai series it was based on? No! Are they similar? Obviously, but they're also obviously different. KR: Ryuki is an amazing series. I was glued to my tv while I was watching it. This new series is not going to change that experience or my memory of it. No matter what this series turns out to be, Ryuki will still be awesome. What will PR and the new Masked Rider series do? Well, for many of us older fans, it will entertain us as we enjoy a new series. But, the greatest thing about these series are that they breed more fans. Have you ever talked to a kid who loves PR? (I'm willing to bet that you were one once upon a time.) They have a favorite Ranger. They know the bad guy. They really dig this stuff. A lot of them grow up and their tastes change. Some of them grow up and still like to watch the stuff they did as a kid. It's those people who will discover Sentai, Kamen Rider, and Toku, in general, in the future. They would never discover it without these "readaptations". I, for one, love to see our fandom grow to include more and more people. If you want to see Toku becoming more mainstream eventually, then you'll at the very least tolerate "readaptations".

~Matthan (who probably rants more than he needs to)

[Dr Kain]

Sorry, but I disagree. Ninja Storm is the lamest pile of **** the Power Rangers series has ever come up with. "Sargain what up dog" what the hell is that?? I can no longer stand NS so much that I can't even watch it for the Japanese seens. Disney will **** up Ryuki badly, and will totally change the whole point of it. The only thing good out of it will be the figures, but I doubt they will have all 15 characters (Knight, Ryuki, Scissors, Zolda, Raia, Gaia, Oja, Odin, Tiger, Impaler, Verde, Femme, Ryuga, Alternative, Alternative Zero). Not to mention, as I said before, they will probably make most of the characters dumb preps (not like I ever met a smart prep to begin with). I can here it now, Ryuki's US counter part "dude, you can't go to fight the other riders, it just isn't right dude."

[Mr. Obsession]

Oh god I am very afraid of what they will do to Ryuki. More afraid than what they will do to AbaRanger. :(
I'd fear the Abba/Aba puns more, but that's just me. :p


"...you can dance, you can dance..."

[JohnCrichton]

I have to disagree with ya, Dr. Kain.

Like Matt said up there, because of adaptations we have both. Fans of Ryuki owe it to PR adaptations good and bad because it's those shows that made us Tokusatsu fans.

And with more adaptations, these kids will grow up wondering what the resource material was and thus grow the popularity of Tokusatsu. Eventually just like what happened to butchered anime back in the day, Tokusatsu will be able to be aired, sold and uncut in America, but it's the hacked stuff first that will pioneer the way.

I'm warming to Ninja Storm. Actors and crew look like they're having a good time. I still can't stand Lothor and the sooner he gets over thrown the better. But to the show's credit, the fight scenes are quite remarkable.

I'd say, tune in this weekend for Cam's "Samurai Journey" and make your decision there. Often times, the beginning of a PR series is trash and it gets better around the Sixth Ranger Saga.

Anything else that can be said, has already been said by Matthan and better.

So here's something for you Toku fans to put up on your desktop. Compliments of Japan Hero's newest member, Bumblebee... with more to come.

http://www.japanhero.com/Graphics/wallpaper/previewrider011.jpg
Enjoy!

[Keiichi]

I don't think the sixth ranger showing up is going to help Ninja Storm. It was a lost cause since day 1. They've messed up the whole story. They Introduced the Thunder Rangers too early and had them turn good too quick. Did they even Show Sargain's mecha during that arc? And now they are introducing The Shuriken Ranger (He's a Ninja Disney not a samurai) far too early and screwing up his origin to boot.

Also I we'll ever see uncut Tokusatsu. Unlike anime which has been est has something that can appeal to all ages. Sentai shows and Kamen rider have been est has childrens show. Can you imagine the uproar from soccer moms when thier kids picks up a DVD and see's the characters bleeding and dieing? thats going to go over well.

[NinjaJack]

Always nice to receive praise. Thanks, NinjaJack. Here's the thing I don't understand and maybe someone here can clear up my misconception. Most of the people who are bothered by "readapting" or "Americanizing" these series are fans of the original shows. Frequent comments are made about butchering a show. The American shows are made with consent from the Japanese companies though. The companies are interested in brand extension. From what I understand, PR even airs in Japan.
It not only has aired in Japan, it's treated better then sentai is treated here.


From a business standpoint, it borders on genius. You can lift elements from a show and insert it into another show in a different culture. Thus, you spread out production costs on all levels. Toy sculpts can even be carried over. Think about it for one moment, and you'll see that the business decision to do this helps insure that you'll be happily entertained for years to come.
Agreed, it also leaves money left over for fight scenes, sets and costume design.



My biggest failure to understand is how this different product truly effects the original. It's getting to the point (or perhaps it is even already there) where fans of live action shows (or tokusatsu) are trying to eat their young. Does the making of PR effect the Sentai series it was based on? No! Are they similar? Obviously, but they're also obviously different.

Thats a gripe alot of Rangerfans have, is it so wrong to want to see Henshin series, without the Japanese language? No, it isn't. Tokusatsu is an excellent visual art, but it was made /for the japanese/ not for americans and non-japansese speaking fans.




Yee speak the truth and it raises another question, if you're a fan of Sentai why must you come into another fandom and say how you hate what other people love? I can tell you, because we're more alike then different and it's a shame we can't respect both franchises.

[quote]I, for one, love to see our fandom grow to include more and more people. If you want to see Toku becoming more mainstream eventually, then you'll at the very least tolerate "readaptations".
The only way PR would be accepted in the Toku community is if it aired in prime time with "mature themes", like Roswell and Black Sash, and those shows both don't air anymore. It's not the level of maturity that keeps PR on the air, it's that fact that it's good TV. Have you seen whats on primetime and the weekends? Some pretty weak shows with little character development or purpose. Tons of sex and violence but rarely handled well enough to produce a good show.
Then you take a look at shows that tried to be like PR and failed, they had toys, they had monsters of the week, but they lacked quality.
If PR was such a terrible show then it would have been cut down a decade ago. It's endearing and faithful to it's fans, theres a a few goofs every now and then like "Never Give Up" but in the end PR still remains entertaining and steady.

[NinjaJack]

Sorry, but I disagree. Ninja Storm is the lamest pile of **** the Power Rangers series has ever come up with. "Sargain what up dog" what the hell is that?? I can no longer stand NS so much that I can't even watch it for the Japanese seens.

Dr. Kain, I mean no disrespect when saying I think that was uncalled for and immature.
PR uses slang, that joke was funny, and that was "Zargane"
I'm not quite sure what to think now, PR is condemened for acting like a watered down hacked up Sentai series, then whenever PR pulls something completely original like "Samurai's Journey", sentai fans sees it fit to put the show down once again for not following Sentai, it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situtation it seems.

I wrote something at IMDB, check it out it explains my view of PRNS so far.



An incredible series was launched early this year, Power Rangers Ninja Storm, a fresh and bold new taste to the 11 year old Power Rangers multi-billion dollar franchise. This show is one of the best Ranger shows yet, I`ve been a fan of the Ranger series as a whole since 93 and this series doesn't change my opinion...it strengthens it. Power Rangers has had two styles of story telling, the fun and action style and the exciting adventure style. While series like MMPR and Power Rangers Turbo were of the fun and action, much of the fandom has said they prefer the exciting adventure style of Power Rangers In Space, Lost Galaxy and Time Force.

Ninja Storm is a mix of all the above, chunking out great action and story telling all at once, with the fun of the original MMPR and the excitement of the newer incarnations.

It`s not without it`s faults though, PRNS early on suffered from puns and quips that a lot of people did not care for. But the one thing PRNS has is that any thing good out weighs the bad in this series, theres acting of the likes other Saturday morning shows could only WISH they could have. These actors are by far some of the most gifted actors to dawn the ranger mantle. Glenn McMillian is a ten year acting vet and he`s not even 20 yet, goodness. The villains in this series are funny and devious. Some of the cast in this Ranger series are alumni of Xena Warrior Princess[ Katrina Browne and Grant McFarland]

All in all I`d give PRNS an eight out of ten so far.

Every episode is entertaining, and in the end that is what really matters.


Disney will **** up Ryuki badly, and will totally change the whole point of it. The only thing good out of it will be the figures, but I doubt they will have all 15 characters (Knight, Ryuki, Scissors, Zolda, Raia, Gaia, Oja, Odin, Tiger, Impaler, Verde, Femme, Ryuga, Alternative, Alternative Zero). Not to mention, as I said before, they will probably make most of the characters dumb preps (not like I ever met a smart prep to begin with). I can here it now, Ryuki's US counter part "dude, you can't go to fight the other riders, it just isn't right dude."
No, for you see if Disney were making Ryuuki they'd **** it up, but thats Toei's department, Village Roadshow is in charge of making Future Dragon Knight. :p Why wouldn't they release the other figures? Everyone who has ever morphed on PR has had a figure, everyone from the original five to the Thunder Rangers. Even the Alien Rangers had a brief stint. I can't see why they wouldn't release all 13 Riders, but I'd like to know why do you think they won't.

[NinjaJack]

I don't think the sixth ranger showing up is going to help Ninja Storm. It was a lost cause since day 1. They've messed up the whole story. They Introduced the Thunder Rangers too early and had them turn good too quick. Did they even Show Sargain's mecha during that arc? And now they are introducing The Shuriken Ranger (He's a Ninja Disney not a samurai) far too early and screwing up his origin to boot.

They turned good too quick? That was one of the longest evil ranger story arcs in the history of PR. Blake broke free of the spell because of his love for Tori, Hunter had it beaten out of him with tough love.
I know some of my Samurai history in feudal Japan, Samurai's wore their weapons on the waist, Ninjas wore their weapons on their
backs like the Thunder and Wind Ninjas.

When Shurikenger's figure was first posted all over the Sentai fandom last year, many people thought he was a Samurai Ranger way before they thought the he was a Ninja, his armor even looks like a royal samurai Kimono minus the Kirimon. It makes sense to call him a Samurai Ranger because he actually looks more like a Samurai then a Ninja. And on the subject of both, sometimes Ninjas were vengeful Samurai's and noblemen trying to kill eachother, Shinobis were sometimes only messengers from one noblemen to another. But I digress. If this were a badly hacked up dub like Ultraman Tiga I could see your concern, but you have resources to buy and watch these shows without having to come here and insult livelyhood of others.

Why is it that PR fans can't watch their show in peace?

[Keiichi]

They turned good too quick? That was one of the longest evil ranger story arcs in the history of PR. Blake broke free of the spell because of his love for Tori, Hunter had it beaten out of him with tough love.

How long was it? And they were'nt suppossed to be under any spell (well the Red Thunder Ranger was put under one later) they were bad cause they chose to be.


I know some of my Samurai history in feudal Japan, Samurai's wore their weapons on the waist, Ninjas wore their weapons on their
backs like the Thunder and Wind Ninjas.

When Shurikenger's figure was first posted all over the Sentai fandom last year, many people thought he was a Samurai Ranger way before they thought the he was a Ninja, his armor even looks like a royal samurai Kimono minus the Kirimon. It makes sense to call him a Samurai Ranger because he actually looks more like a Samurai then a Ninja. And on the subject of both, sometimes Ninjas were vengeful Samurai's and noblemen trying to kill eachother, Shinobis were sometimes only messengers from one noblemen to another.

Ninja's also wore weapons on their waist. But, this isn't about Historical accuracy. The theme of the show is Ninja's. His his helmate and chest both bear a shuriken mark. Even his mecha resembles a giant ninja star. Also he use's Ninja tricks and attacks.


But I digress. If this were a badly hacked up dub like Ultraman Tiga I could see your concern, but you have resources to buy and watch these shows without having to come here and insult livelyhood of others.

Why is it that PR fans can't watch their show in peace?


Maybe this isn't a hacked up dub in your opinion but, for others this is. It would'nt be so bad if they left out the the cheesy one liners and the heavy sports theme (What is this Rocket Power or PR?). And Insult?! Where did I insult anybody who works on the show or the show it self? I'am only voicing my opinion. If they take what I've said as insults then they are'nt very professional. I've watched PR when it first started and this adapation is among the worst. Starting with lost galaxy-Wild Force the quality of PR came up alot. It went from just monster of the day and changing costumes and villans to shows that actually had a plot. They were much more serious and much more enjoyable. If you want to talk about Insults this series insults all the people who worked hard to bring PR up a notch from a mindless 25 min action show. Also lets not forget the original writers, actors, and Directors who made it in Japan. Their hard work has been insulted by this adaption.

[Matthan]

Look, none of you know what is going to happen with the Ryuki adaptation. How about just not worrying about it until it happens? By the way, I know that PR: Reloaded came under a lot of fire even as a tentative title, but is there any other confirmation of the Ryuki adaptation?

Dr. Kain, I understand that you love Ryuki. I do too. Ryuki is not going to be changed. The dvds on your shelf will still contain the high quality entertainment that you love. This adaptation isn't going to change your show. This adaptation is going to further brand recognition and give us all a chance to get some reasonably priced Ryuki swag. I don't see any reason to get bent out of shape about this. If you don't like it, you don't have to watch it. I look forward to watching the adaptation when it comes. I think that kids are going to love it.

As Ninja Storm being the worst thing to happen to civilization since the readvent of toe socks, it simply isn't so. Ninja storm doesn't have the sweeping adventure themes that some other PR incarnations have had. It does have a high production value and high entertainment value. You'll notice that we have not had many one shot episodes. Instead we've been treated to several multi-part episodes. NS isn't throwing away themes, it's trying to work them in a different way. They are creating capsules of story. 2-4 episode capsules that provide a cohesive story. We still have our one shot episodes, but now we are getting short sagas. Will this trend continue? I'm not sure, it does seem to be a good move from a home video standpoint. NS needs to be taken as an intentionally less serious PR. It's a breathing season if you will. Instead of trying to raise the stakes and push high drama, NS is asking us to sit back and enjoy. I appreciate that. I don't think high drama is gone forever. PR thrives on variety. This is another flavor, and I happen to think it's great.

As a short rant to the fandom in general (toku and PR), I don't think anything is aided by the militant people who attack others. I have yet to see a board dedicated to either of these fandoms that I would be comfortable letting even a teen go to. That's a shame. I think I once read on the funaroverse someone who said that he used to like a show until he got on the internet and found out to be a fan you had to hate it. If PR or adaptations actually cause you this much emotional heartache, just ignore them and move on.

JC, I know the wallpaper came from JapanHero, but who is that rider? I wasn't aware there was an animated version.

About Cam and the Samurai Ranger, if it really bothers you that much to see him referred to as a Samurai, please don't watch. Historical accuracy aside. If you can't see it as a neat name to capture a child's imagination, then please move on and complain about those weird scales that grow out of the Abaranger costumes. Kids don't care about his zord looking like a ninja star. Kids care that he's cool, and he will be. As soon as he's introduced I'm going to see a lot of kids running around morphing into the Samurai.

The original actors, directors, writers, etc... are not insulted by PR. I'm sure they either don't care or are happy to see something they were attached to living on. Monkey, you mentioned that they weren't supposed to be under a spell. That actually tells me a lot about you. In Hurricanger, they weren't under a spell. This is PR. Remember that they are different and you'll be able to sleep better at night. Just stop stressing about the differences and enjoy Sentai. The rest of us will enjoy both.

~Matthan

[NinjaJack]

The original actors, directors, writers, etc... are not insulted by PR. I'm sure they either don't care or are happy to see something they were attached to living on. Monkey, you mentioned that they weren't supposed to be under a spell. That actually tells me a lot about you. In Hurricanger, they weren't under a spell. This is PR. Remember that they are different and you'll be able to sleep better at night. Just stop stressing about the differences and enjoy Sentai. The rest of us will enjoy both.

~Matthan
Not everyone knows this, but Dairanger's director directed a dozen or so episodes of Power Rangers. And Monkey, I'm sorry if this got to personal, really This isn't anything personal, but if you loath PRNS to this level, why post in a thead about it?

Matt, Ryuuki is coming, the person at Henshin Online also posts at Japan Hero and he's right most of the time, so I expect to see it in the fall of this year if production is willing.
Lets keep this cival people, we can have a debate without becoming too heated.

[Keiichi]

About Cam and the Samurai Ranger, if it really bothers you that much to see him referred to as a Samurai, please don't watch. Historical accuracy aside. If you can't see it as a neat name to capture a child's imagination, then please move on and complain about those weird scales that grow out of the Abaranger costumes. Kids don't care about his zord looking like a ninja star. Kids care that he's cool, and he will be. As soon as he's introduced I'm going to see a lot of kids running around morphing into the Samurai.

I would'nt care what they called him if the show did'nt have a theme to it. The theme is Ninja's and the title is Ninja storm. I'am all for stimulating a childs imgination I have nothing against it. But when they change a name of a character that does'nt really fit the theme of the show then I don't really understand. Its like changeing Green Laterns costume color to red and taking away the Latern. Would calling him the green latern still fit the theme of the title? no. As for Scales being on the Aba's costumes well the theme is dinosaurs is it not? So why not put scales on them did'nt dionosaurs have them?



The original actors, directors, writers, etc... are not insulted by PR. I'm sure they either don't care or are happy to see something they were attached to living on. Monkey, you mentioned that they weren't supposed to be under a spell. That actually tells me a lot about you. In Hurricanger, they weren't under a spell. This is PR. Remember that they are different and you'll be able to sleep better at night. Just stop stressing about the differences and enjoy Sentai. The rest of us will enjoy both.

~Matthan

Meh your probley right but it sounded good at the time so I used it. And what does it you about me? That I'am a purist snob that only acknowleges the Japanese ver? If so then no. If I was then I would say that the whole PR universe sucked. I've enjoyed PR since I was in middle school all those years ago. I would'nt have cared if they were'nt under a spell or not. What I'am upset about is the direction they've taken NS in. They are mixing things togeather that IMHO don't mix. If they wanted to go with a more lighthearted theme then I'am all for it. Except when they cram chessy dialoge down are throats and making sports a major theme in order for the show to seem more "hip" and "cool". If you like it fine I have no trouble with it. Not once in this thread have I had trouble with somebody likeing it. I know PR and Sentai are different. If they want to make changes fine but speaking as a long time PR fan I have to say that Ninja storm is a step down to what has been offered to us in past years. So say what you want about me I'am done. Peace.

Monkey D. Luffy

[Matthan]

I would'nt care it what they called him if the show did'nt have a theme to it. The theme is Ninja's the title is Ninja storm. I'am all for stimulating a childs imgination I have nothing against it. But when they change a name of a character that does'nt really fit the theme of the show then I don't really understand. Its changeing Green Laterns costume color to red and taking away the Latern. Would calling him the green latern still fit the them of the title? no. As for Scales being on the Aba's costumes well the theme is dinosaurs is it not? So why not put scales on them did'nt dionosaurs have them?

Ok, I'm going to be a little technical because I see something that you don't. I learned about a theory of language last semester that involves schemata. Basically, it says that when a word is used it draws up a web of related words in your mind. So basically you build definitions of words by how they relate to one another. That's a poor summary, but the point is that Ninja and Samurai are not to far removed. Why did they decide to go with Samurai? I'm not sure, I'm pretty sure it'll be explained in the next two weeks. I have an inkling that it's more because he doesn't have a specific school. Beyond all that, I don't think kids really recognize the difference beyond the fact that the Samurai ranger is different somehow than the rest. I think that's the point of the decision. Samurai still fits in with the theme of the show. Ask someone off the street about ninjas and samurais and you'll see that they probably relate them to one another. The Green Lantern idea is true, but you would be altering a character that was already established in the culture. The same thing isn't happening in this case. A Samurai ranger isn't altering the show's dynamic. As for the Abaranger scale thing, I apologize. That was a flippant remark because I've ran into a few people complaining about them.




Meh your probley right but it sounded good at the time so I used it. And what does it you about me? That I'am a purist snob that only acknowleges the Japanese ver? If so then no. If I was then I would say that the whole PR universe sucked. I've enjoyed PR since I was in middle school all those years ago. I would'nt have cared if they were'nt under a spell or not. What I'am upset about is the direction they've taken NS in. They are mixing things togeather that IMHO don't mix. If they wanted to go with a more lighthearted theme then I'am all for it. Except when they cram chessy dialoge down are throats and making sports a major theme in order for the show to seem more "hip" and "cool". If you like it fine I have no trouble with it. Not once in this thread have I had trouble with somebody likeing it. I know PR and Sentai are different. If they want to make changes fine but speaking as a long time PR fan I have to say that Ninja storm is a step down to what has been offered to us in past years. So say what you want about me I'am done. Peace.

Monkey D. Luffy

Once again I need to apologize. Once I read what I wrote in NinjaJack's quotation of me, I saw that it sounded terrible. To take a step back, I meant that it said a lot about what you expected of the series. In my mind, it showed that you wanted PR to a very faithful reproduction of the Sentai original. The tone of that sentence was very rude, and I apologize for it.

To the meat of your commentary, your main dislike seems to be 1. poorly written dialogue, 2. the sports theme, and 3. the mixing of unrelated themes. If I'm missing one, correct me and we can discuss it. As for the dialogue, I'm different than a lot of people because I don't approach PR to study dialogue or lip synching. Some people are just naturally more observant than me in that department and are jarred by it. If the dialogue issue for you is one of the use or overuse of slang, I'll actually agree with you, but for different reasons. I don't like much modern slang to be used in television shows because it inherently dates them. Some slang that has stood the test of time (cool will probably still be used by our children) is fine, but something that grounds the series in today limits the series for me. I want PR on dvd because I want to share it with my kids someday (along with whatever PR series is hopefully airing then as well). When they get older, I'll crack out my Robotech, Ryuki, Kuuga, and whatever other older geared shows I've gathered. I digress however, the slang has not been an issue for me, but if that has been a stumbling block to you, I would try to make it through the Samurai saga and see if it shifts some. I think what we were encountering with the slang was a new production team trying to settle into their roles.

The sports theme isn't bothersome to me either. Basically I see it as trying to give the characters more to themselves than just being a ranger. I will admit that I don't think we've had this much focus on hobbies since the early MMPR days. Is it a stepback? Not entirely. So far, Tori's surfing and Shane's skateboarding haven't added much to the series. The bike riding though has been used effectively. Dustin's friendship with the thunders. The Thunders superiority on the track and as rangers. It allowed them to gain Dustin's trust and steal the disc. There are a few other points where that background point has been used well. The point is that I don't that it's the focus on the sports that is the problem. That is merely trying to broaden the fan base. The problem is when it feels tacked on and artificial. Right now, Tori's surfing feels false to me. Shane's skateboarding a little less so since it's been used a few times. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for the moment and see if they use those angles to motivate and grow the characters.

Third is the mixing of oil and water in your opinion. If this is merely the Samurai/Ninja thing, then I've discussed it. However, if you have more in mind here, could you illuminate me and maybe we can discuss that.

Again, I'm sorry for the earlier harsh comments. That wasn't my intention and I hope that we can have a civil discussion here.

~Matthan

[JohnCrichton]

JC, I know the wallpaper came from JapanHero, but who is that rider? I wasn't aware there was an animated version.


The Rider? Dunno, haven't come up with a name for him. Kamen Rider Hero, I guess. :) There was no Kamen Rider anime that I know of. What you're seeing there is the first of more to come from a talented kid Sprocket told me about.

He's an aspiring comic book artist and working at Japan Hero for us. So more to come!

[Supernovametalstar]

If you want to talk about Insults this series insults all the people who worked hard to bring PR up a notch from a mindless 25 min action show. Also lets not forget the original writers, actors, and Directors who made it in Japan. Their hard work has been insulted by this adaption.


I don't know about that. It always seemed to me that it was just a job to them, and they did their best to put out a good product so that they could keep at their job and make money. I doubt they would be too insulted if they turned old episodes of PR into "The Super Mutant Monkey Hour" as long as they get royalties for it :p .

As for the japanese production team of the original source material, I hardly doubt they care as much as the fans do as long as they get their money from selling the rights to Saban, now Disney.

[ClockStomper]

Dosen't Village Roadshow also do the martial arts in the "Matrix" movies? that's probably why the fight scenes look so good. I have to say i like they aren't relying so much on the Sentai stock footage any more...

But the villians continue to suck. Lothor is incredibly stupid.

[NinjaJack]

I don't know about that. It always seemed to me that it was just a job to them, and they did their best to put out a good product so that they could keep at their job and make money. I doubt they would be too insulted if they turned old episodes of PR into "The Super Mutant Monkey Hour" as long as they get royalties for it :p .

As for the japanese production team of the original source material, I hardly doubt they care as much as the fans do as long as they get their money from selling the rights to Saban, now Disney.
MMPR Productions, nah it was more then a job, it was their life. Some members of the team still works here and there, which relates to Clock's post--


Dosen't Village Roadshow also do the martial arts in the "Matrix" movies? that's probably why the fight scenes look so good. I have to say i like they aren't relying so much on the Sentai stock footage any more...

But the villians continue to suck. Lothor is incredibly stupid.

The fight scenes look so good because their combination of Kochie Sakamoto's stunt genius and his company Alpha Stunts[Daredevil,Guyver,Birds Of Prey and many others] and Village Roadshow's stuntmen. And you're right Village Roadshow is the Matrix's production team,they had a hand in LOTR's aswell.


[ just a heads up, Micheal Hurst'Iiolous' from Hercules] plays two upcoming monsters in PRNS]

[Dr Kain]

Yes, JC, I do agree with you, if it weren't for PR, we would've never heard of Sentai. I'm just saying that I can't stand NS. I am able to watch the previous PR series (except Turbo) without a problem (some more now than when they first aired), The main problems I have with NS is the dialog, Lothor and the 2 girls. If it weren't for those, I probably wouldn't hate NS as much. As for the Green Samurai Ranger stuff, work every Sat now, so I won't be catching NS anymore, and this weekend I'm recording the Mothra marathon on Sci-Fi, n my dad usually records things at 1130, so I'll just have to wait for reruns to air during the week on either MWF since that is when I would be home to watch them.

As for Ryuki, the reason I said they probably wouldn't bring out every character is because the last 3 riders (Verde, Femme, and Ryuga) only appear in the movie and tv special, so I don't see them being released unless they release those hear too.

Oh yeah, and if I don't like the adaptations, people tell me not to watch it, but if I don't, people will tell me I can't complain about it since I don't watch it.