Smallville Season Finale "Exodus" Talkback (Spoilers)

[The Penguin]

The second season finale of Smallville premieres tonight at 9 p.m. ET on The WB. If you miss it you can check out the Easy View at 5 p.m. ET on Sunday. ;) Last week was Calling (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?threadid=75698).

Clark's life will never be the same! Here is the official preview from TheWB.com (http://www.thewb.com)


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Smallville #2-23 "Exodus"
A sense of foreboding surrounds Smallville as Clark (Tom Welling) must choose between staying with Lana (Kristin Kreuk) and his family or fulfilling his destiny to rule the Earth. Meanwhile, Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) and Helen (Emmanuelle Vaugier) plan their upcoming wedding, but outside forces may ultimately keep them apart. Also, a hurt Chloe (Allison Mack) considers Lionel's (John Glover) offer to investigate Clark.

Sam Jones III, Annette O'Toole and John Schneider also star. Greg Beeman directed the episode written by Al Gough & Miles Millar.

[DisneyBoy]

You lucky people you.


After devoting myself to my schoolwork (and still managing to fall somewhat behind), we are now at the end of Season Two, and I'm stuck waaaaay back at "Rosetta". An embittered Chloe? A Lana and Clark romance? Kryptonite clones? It's all alien to me.

Enjoy the finale :) My review will come in saaay...three months?

[RZetlin]

Wow! What a finale! :eek:

Highlights:

Lionel showed Clark his Kryptonite key. (He probably did it on purpose to see how Clark would react to it).

Clark has destroyed the space ship with the Kryptonite key. I didn't see that coming!

The Martha's baby has died. It was predicated, but I'm surprise at the method of death.

As I predicated, Chloe has turned to the dark side!

What was in the letter Lionel has in his hands?

Again Pete is the underdog. He sacrifice himself for his friend Clark.

Clark got the red Kryptonite ring from Chloe's drawer at the Torch. (BTW, wouldn't Chole's ring be designed for ladies, making it too small for Clark to wear?)

That speech Lionel gave about stripping love away to show a person's true side---I wonder if that speech was really directed at Lex. Afterall Lex is in love. Was Helen really in on killing Lex?



Rating: 5.0/5.0

[rabidrednek]

Holy Cheesin' Cripes, the number two hit the fan tonight.

well what can I say? they just completely changed this show. Plot twists galore, Chloe is now evil, no more baby (didn't like that part) and as I predicted last week, Clark has hit the road. Although what will come of his hitting the road as Clark Who Does Not Care remains to be seen.

And Lex's wedding plane getting sabotaged and plummeting into the ocean sans pilots and wife? Seems mighty suspicous to me.

It's gonna be a looong wait for season 4.

[gohan11]

Great episode. It was better than last season's finale, and since this season's premier was so good lets hope next season's is just as good if not better.

Lets hope we get Clark in Metropolis or just traveling from city to city for atleast 25% of next season. Imagine if he travels to Gotham :D

[MILatino]

****½


Clark has destroyed the space ship with the Kryptonite key. I didn't see that coming!Wow, I didn't see that coming either. That was so cool. I did not expect it to create a shock wave that would result in Clark losing his sibling. That was a twist that should have been written into the Superman comics to give Clark that Peter Parker guilt complex.


What was in the letter Lionel has in his hands?Wow... did Lionel bribe Helen to put Lex into that plane and bail out?!


Again Pete is the underdog. He sacrifice himself for his friend Clark.You lost me there. What are you talking about? Are you talking about Pete being the decoy while Clark stole the Kryptonite key? That wasn't a sacrafice in the least.


Clark got the red Kryptonite ring from Chloe's drawer at the Torch. (BTW, wouldn't Chole's ring be designed for ladies, making it too small for Clark to wear?)Hey! Good catch! Yeah, that ring was made for Chloe's finger.

Also noteable was that Clark and Lana actually said "I love you" to each other!

[cartoonboy]

Clark needs to take a page out of Peter Parker's handbook, "...great power, great responsibility".
The destruction of the ship, how reckless was that?
Too many questions and only 4-5 months before any of that will be answered. How far will Chloe go to get the truth? What happened to Lex?

[Solitude1]

Things change....I wonder how the show will turn out next season. Clark traveling to state to state would be cool. Also, I wonder if Red Clark is really listening to that voice or If he's just doing his own thing....

It's about time Chloe go to the dark side! Putting up with Clark is one thing but, to be lied to constantly...You go girl. :cool:


You lost me there. What are you talking about? Are you talking about Pete being the decoy while Clark stole the Kryptonite key? That wasn't a sacrafice in the least.

Pete tried to stop Clark from escaping his problems. Clark pretty much ran to that ring like a drug. Clark pushed Pete aside and ran...hope Pete gets more screentime next season.


It's gonna be a looong wait for season 4.

Yes it will be. However next season will be SEASON 3. :p

[RZetlin]

You lost me there. What are you talking about? Are you talking about Pete being the decoy while Clark stole the Kryptonite key? That wasn't a sacrafice in the least.


Yes it was.

Pete was left to deal with Lionel and the guards while Clark got away.

Pete could have been strip searched or something like that.

[Terminatah]

You lost me there. What are you talking about? Are you talking about Pete being the decoy while Clark stole the Kryptonite key? That wasn't a sacrafice in the least.


Yes it was.

Pete was left to deal with Lionel and the guards while Clark got away.

Pete could have been strip searched or something like that.

That's the least of his worries. Lionel knows that Pete was in on the plan to steal his kryptonite key, and he enjoyed doing it. So now, in Lionel's eyes, Pete is a threat against him, and a pawn to be used for leverage with Clark. This will likely complicate the rest of Pete's life.

-Terminatah

[RZetlin]

I was thinking about the relationship between Lex and Helen.

Remember that Lionel described them as a "pair of star-crossed lovers".

That quote came from Romeo & Juliet.

That line was to indicate the love between Romeo & Juliet was destined to fail in death.

So Lionel was giving Lex a warning of how things would turned out for him.

Lionel is evil, but he certainly have great insight and intellect.

[Russkafin]

Wow... did Lionel bribe Helen to put Lex into that plane and bail out?!



It's entirely possible that Helen was working for Lionel all along, and that they were orchestrating this from the very beginning. Remember, he payed her $10,000 to "break up with Lex," and even though she refused he still deposited the money into her bank account.

What if that's not what the money was for at all?? What if he was paying her to get him to marry her and then bump him off?? Would Lionel really want to kill Lex?

Or, what if Lionel was paying her to spy on him or something, and then she married him and tried to kill him on her own, to inherit his money after he dies?

So many possibilities....

And, I'm a little disappointed that Martha lost the baby, even though I guess we all knew it was coming eventually. I guess I would have liked to see something happen with the child that we weren't really expecting (if you'll please pardon the expression).

[dc_gothamite]

Much like last season's finalé, this season's finalé saw everything come FULL circle... "Exodus" wuz a fantastic episode, topping last year's "Tempest."

Everything about "Exodus" blew me away... the romance, the action, the twists, and the mysteries...

Clark: I gotta feel sorry for this guy, man. He made a point near the end: all he does is cause people pain and suffering, especially towards his parents. Well, no offense to Clark, he's right. Look at ALL the examples of Clark messin' w/ the Kents, that we've seen this season:

1.) "Tempest"/"Vortex": Clark's secret nearly cost Jonathan's life at the life hands of Roger Nixon

2.) "Red": Clark's influence under Red Kryptonite; he injured his father (albeit, not seriously) and pretty much freaked the whole family out.

3.) "Redux": Although their relationship is already tainted, Martha & Jonathan are unable to have a solid relationship with Martha's father, in fear of exposing Clark's secret.

4.) "Lineage": Clark's adoption and the circumstances behind it have strained Jonathan, severely. Jonathan blames himself for letting the Luthors into Smallville

Now add to the death of Martha's baby... Clark's got A LOT on his shoulders... and to top that off, he finally gets with Lana and what happens??? he'z gotta leave her... dammit, Jor-El!!! Back in "Vortex," Lana said that "he can't hide up here, forever"... well, Clark has learned, and he is willing to go off and show the world wut he can do...

Lana: beautiful, as usual (sorry, but i can't help but say that)... but i gotta feel sorry for her too... last season, Whitney left to join the Marine Corps; this season, Clark leaves for Metropolis out of guilt... She was right when she said, all the way back in "Visage" that "everyone who she gets close to just leaves."... also remember that Clark said "I'm not goin' anywhere"... well look what happened...

Lex: to be honest, I thought his thing w/ Helen would end up like Victoria (Kelly Brook), from last season... looks like i was wrong... well they're breaking it off, but I didn't think that it would practically cost him his life!! Helen is one evil b****!!!! I wuzn't kidding when I said that everything would come full circle... throughout the season, Lex has done some things to Helen, involving her privacy and her work... now Helen fights back... NOW we really see why Helen needed anger management (referenced in "Dichotic")... how Lex gets through this, I'm interested to see...

Pete: well... he got more this season than last season, but I still feel like he was painfully underused... ESPECIALLY for a character who knows Clark's secret. Still, at least he helped out Clark in "Exodus" and tried to talk him out of putting on the "RED" ring... better than his job in "Tempest": taking out one of the hottest girls to the Spring Formal...

Chloe: out of all the characters, she is the one who has probably gone the FULL circle... during "Vortex," and throughout the season during episodes like "Heat" and "Precipice," she has been crying and lamenting over her failed relationship with Clark... finally, the crier she is NO MORE... Clark has hurt her during this season; finally Chloe will be able to hurt him back, by taking Lionel up on that offer... heh, if she's pissed off now, wait till Clark marries her well-known relative :P

Lionel: Speaking of Lionel... this guy is one sneaky B------D.... Throughout the season, he has played SO many people:

- Lex (through his "fake" blindness)
- Dr. Hamilton (about Clark's spaceship)
- Lucas ("Prodigal")
- Jonathan ("Lineage"; over Clark's adoption)
- Martha (his attempts to woo her in "Insurgence")
- Ethan (in "Suspect," which led to his unfortunate arrest)
- Joseph (in "Skinwalker")
- Emily & her Dad (in "Accelerate")
...the list goes on...

However, his most recent agreement w/ Chloe is probably the most interesting one... I'm interested to see where this goes... PLUS i'm curious as to what he holds in that envelope from Helen...

Jonathan & Martha: much like Chloe, these two characters have gone FULL CIRCLE... throughout the season, they have stood by Clark: dealing with the controversy over his adoption, the fear of death during the aftermath of the tornado, the discoveries of Red Kryptonite & his heat vision, and with the newfound information from Dr. Swann (Christopher Reeve, "Rosetta")... but now, it may seem that all the love they showed Clark have blown up in their faces... it many ways, I hated Jonathan in "Exodus"... he was hypocritical IMO... instead of the usual "don't blame yourself" speech, he practically brushed Clark off... I mean I know they just lost a baby, but they've got a son too... at least they "used" to (from their perspective)... Clark said his dad looked at him like he was an "alien"... he was right... I'm interested to see where the, now, tainted relationship between Clark & his parents will go...

Overall, a GREAT season finalé... 5/5....

y'know wut... not just a great finalé, but a great season in whole!

kudos to Alfred Gough & Miles Millar :)

and outstanding job to Tom Welling, Kristin Kreuk :), Michael Rosenbaum, Sam Jones III, Allison Mack, John Glover, Annette O'Toole, John Schneider, Emmanuelle Vaugier and Eric Johnson (c'mon! you gotta admit that the episode that he was featured in, this season, was better than all the stuff he appeared in LAST season :p )

these are my rants :cool: ... cant wait till fall!!!

[Barb Gordon]

Oh . My . God *big watery eyes*

I'm too speechless and tinkled pink to think of anything relevant or coherent to say. Luckily it looks like dcgothamite pretty much nailed on the head anything I would have mentioned. That was just....woh. Beyond amazingly cool and fantastic. What a season finale, what a cliffhanger...and dang them all! I don't know how I'm going to last till Fall. The First Season Finale was intense enough, but this....dude! A lot of stuff to swallow in an hour. Clark and Lana together, Clark leaving, Martha losing the baby, Jonathan upset with Clark for once, Lex married, Lex screwed over (?), Chloe getting really pissed, Chloe going evil (?)...*brain explodes*..it's just SO much!

~Barb

[uhhuhioi]

Out of all the season finales I have seen so far, this one was the best. I loved the way it ended and can't wait until the new season. As mentioned before there were some great moments tonight.

The shock wave for one. When I first saw it, and then Lex getting on the plane, I thought the wave would knock them out of the air. But seeing Martha and Jonathan get take out I was surprised.

Clark is back into badass mode and off on the open road. And is this what really pushes Lex over the end? Stay tuned until next season :p .

[HelloKittyKat]

Who was the voice of Jor-El ? I thought it was supposed to be someone major.

[Starflyer 58]

That was entirely depressing. My heart just broke for Clark... heck, for all the Kents. It's going to take a while to heal that rift. :(

And I'm wondering just how much damage he's going to cause with that red k on and nobody to stop him. According to the Powers that Be, time will have elapsed between the finale end and the season premiere, so I guess we'll be seeing the consequences of the events triggered here instead of actually watching them play out.

It's going to be a long four months.

Great analysis dc_gothamite, this really has been a solid season. Glad I discovered the show during it! :D

[Russkafin]

Who was the voice of Jor-El ? I thought it was supposed to be someone major.

It was Terrence Stamp, who played General Zod in Superman and Superman II.

[Terminatah]

it many ways, I hated Jonathan in "Exodus"... he was hypocritical IMO... instead of the usual "don't blame yourself" speech, he practically brushed Clark off... I mean I know they just lost a baby, but they've got a son too... at least they "used" to (from their perspective)... Clark said his dad looked at him like he was an "alien"... he was right... I'm interested to see where the, now, tainted relationship between Clark & his parents will go...Jonathan's reaction was perfectly reasonable. Clark should be able to trust his parents with anything, and instead he lied to them and did the most irresponsible thing he could. And as if that weren't bad enough, it ended up killing his unborn little brother.

And you thought you screwed up when you were a kid. Didn't your dad ever give you one of those alien looks when you were 8 and accidentally broke one of his tools? If I were Jonathan, I would've slapped Clark silly.

-Terminatah

[James Harvey]

If I were Jonathan, I would've slapped Clark silly.

I thought that that Jonathan was going to have a small tantrum towards Clark, losing his cool and maybe even throwing a punch. But we all know Jonathan is better than that! :)

Well, it was one heckuva season finale. As good as it was I place Buffy series finale just above it, and 24 just above Buffy. I'm not saying this finale was terrible, it was great, I just enjoyed the other two a bit more. Two season finales and one series finale in one night for three great series. It doesn't get much better than this!

The good thing about season finales is that they can totally turn a show on it's ear, and this one did just that. It changed just about everything about the series. Everything has been thrown asunder, and it's a great way to end a season. God, I wish more of this season's episodes were this good.

I can't help but wonder what thing will be like when the third season arrives. To me, when all I can think about is the upcoming season, then I know the season finale did everything right, and this one did. Everything was going great, then BAM! Everything out the door.

-Lex has crashed in the sea. I'm hoping they handle this with dignity, an dot resort it to a cheap 'Cast Away' knock off, or give him amnesia. There's gotta be a better way out of this situation. More importantly, it looks like Lionel has had a hand in this.

-I predicted Chloe going back to Luthor and I was right, but it provides a nice dynamic to the series. Clark thinks that Chloe is someone she can trust, but will this deal change that?

-The always dependable Pete. He's...well...he's still there.

-At least the Kent Farm is out of debt. But then again, it's now in ruins. I'd like to know how they're going to get by this one. Last week there was that explosion on the Kent Farm that killed the scientist, then days later a huge explosion that pretty much demolishes the farm? People are gonna start wondering, especially Lionel.

-Finally, there's Clark running off. Also predictable, but an interesting twist for the character. Instead of facing his problems, he's just going. Out of all the plitlines, this one has me the most intruiged. How is he going to handle this? Where is he going to go? Gotham? Clark is one of the better developed characters on the series, and tonight, we saw a whole new side to it.

A nice capper that will have me coming back third season. And now with 24 on Tuesday (with virtually no competition) and Smallville (and Angel! Whoo!) on Wednesday, I can now regularly start watching both series. Looking forward to the next season.

[cysurf]

I don't see how the Kents could be out of debt, those people spend more time in the hospital than everyone in Smallville combined.

[Damien]

Yeah! Yeah! Oh yeah!

Great, awesome, all-around cool episode.
Superman music, believable Superman/Smallville plot, left the viewer hanging with each character's subplot....I can't, absolutely can not wait until next season.

[RZetlin]

Other thoughts:

Lionel still has the hand, so he can make another key.

Now that Clark has left Smallville, how is Chloe suppose to investigate him?

[PowerZord]

it was good great! one of the best! too bad we have to wait till september to see a conclusion. too bad next week episode is Ryan

[DR.MID-NITE]

I wonder if Chloe is working with Lionel to get the dirt on him and what he knows of Clark. She did ask why he was so interested. Then again, she could be really pissed and wants to get back at Clark.

I really hate having to wait 4 months for the new season. :mad:

[MaDJoE]

It's pretty obvious that Lex is dreaming the whole thing no one can survive that crash.

[Jedigreedo]

This was a great episode, definitely 5 stars!! Anyone else catch some more of the Superman theme in a blurb when Clark was putting the Kyrptokey in the ship? It'd be awesome if that would mean Reeve would have some more parts in next season...

A few points:
-The plane looked like there had been a fight on board, I know it had been rocking about with no pilots but we don't know how long that was. It could've gone out of control immediately or taken awhile.. The whole bottle of wine could have been drugged and she just woke up faster. They claimed Lex had gotten killed by bumping his head (there was some blood on it) and so they fooled Helen into going with them.

-How the heck are they gonna cover up that?! A HUGE Shockwave effecting Smallville, and a crater at the Kent farm that looked like a meteor hit it? :eek:

-Was it just me or did it seem like Lionel was actually taunting Clark with that Kryptonite, seeing how he would react to it? The way he kept shoving it at Clark..

-Could Pete end up telling Lana? Obviously she's gonna be very heart broken (even more so than usual) and Pete's pretty soft hearted when it comes to that...

-Was Clark heading towards Metropolis? Hmm... doesn't seem right for him to head there, unless he's looking for help to repair what he's done. Obviously he wouldn't want help from the Luthors, and he knows how he destroyed that area of the farm. Reeve's character though isn't Luthored controlled, and very rich. Sounds interesting... ;)

-Even though he's wearing a Red Kryptonite ring, he still seems to care (better control over it due to emotional stress?) about things from his trying to get Lana to go with him. As for the actual ring and it being Chloe's, well he's the man of steel, so when he slipped it on it could've have bent to fit his finger. Since it was likely made out of a only fair grade alloy, he wouldn't have any resistance from it.

I want the next season NOW! :(

[freakboy86]

way, WAY sweet episode!
...but now it leaves a VERY wide door open for the potential introduction of Bruce Wayne (as promised by the producers)...
We now have a Superman(boy) who is in control of his powers but NOT in control of himself (ie the red kryptonite plus his own mental confusion).
So what would YOU do if you were a strong/fast/invulnerable teenager with no moral compass? GO TO THE CITY KNOWN FOR IT'S CRIME LEVELS: GOTHAM CITY .
Which leaves a nice open scenerio for a young cocky Clark Kent to arrive in the city at around the same time that a young vengeful Bruce Wayne returns to the states to begin his career as the Bat...

...just a (wishful) thought....

[cartoonboy]

The better half posed a good question,
"Why is Jor-El so controlling?" She doesn't think that is his real father.

Maybe Clark will run into Barry Allen/Wally West, or other dc heroes.

[Jedigreedo]

Hmm... could Aquaman possibly end up saving Lex? :D

[MILatino]

As for the actual ring and it being Chloe's, well he's the man of steel, so when he slipped it on it could've have bent to fit his finger. Since it was likely made out of a only fair grade alloy, he wouldn't have any resistance from it.That's a clever explanation. But what about how he found it? Why is a man with x-ray vision ransacking a room to find something? A simple x-ray scan of the room would have revealed the ring's whereabouts.

[The Old Maid]

Originally posted by MILatino
Why is a man with x-ray vision ransacking a room to find something?

No kidding. I would have given them the benefit of the doubt that the school is drenched with old lead paint, but even if it is it never stopped Clark's X-ray vision before. They would have to actually paint the jewelry box.

Then again, Clark hasn't exactly been at the top of his game in this episode :


Left Lex without a best man / didn't attend the wedding
Left Lana dateless
Blew up the farm
Polluted what's left of it (who's going to buy their "organic" vegetables now? I wouldn't)
Interrupted utility services all over the county
Totalled the Kents' only vehicle (the pickup truck)
Committed negligence leading to the death of his unborn brother
Asked Pete to play decoy instead of waiting until Lionel's back was turned anyway (now Lionel will be on Pete's case too)
Didn't tell his parents that "Jor-el" was still threatening him
Didn't tell Chloe the truth even after he and Lana agreed it was his turn to face her
Trashed Chloe's office (again)
Put on the red ring
EDIT : And stole Jonathan's classic motorcycle. We saw in "Skinwalker" that Clark owns/can borrow a dirt bike, but they aren't street legal so he couldn't run away on a dirt bike. (I erroneously assumed Clark put the motorcycle on Mom and Dad's credit card as he did in the episode "Red," when Bad Clark put the electronic equipment on credit. I'd missed the opening scene of "Red," which stated that Jonathan owned and restored the motorcycle.)


Observations :

I doubt we will see Lex stranded on an island in the South Pacific talking to a volleyball. The Chuck Noland character (Tom Hanks) had a good raft. In Lex's case Wifey probably sliced a hole in the life raft.

Was I the only one thinking, "Don't drink it Lex! Aw, he's toast."

I doubt Helen of Smallville (a.k.a. She Who Launched a Thousand Proxy Wars) is on Lionel's team. True, she had a slick Allison Veil act (Nowhere Man reference) and she may try it again if Lex crawls back to Smallville alive. But killing Lex does not serve Lionel's purposes. Even Lex's mortal enemy testified in "Suspect" that Lionel intends Lex to succeed him, no matter how much Lex "disappoints" him, because Lex is blood. Lionel has twice left Lex to die ("Jitters," "Lineage") -- but that's not the same as intentionally orchestrating his death.

Lionel skipped the wedding.

Lex gave the blood sample back to a bad guy i.e. Helen. He should have kept it. With him gone it's possible no one would have ever found it.

If Lana or Pete had agreed to leave with Clark they could have made furtive calls home to reassure the Kents he was alive and safe. Admittedly it wouldn't occur to most sophomores to do something that drastic. The way it appears now, it really will take someone like Batman to pound some sense into Clark. (That wouldn't be out of continuity -- the Superman character was created first, but Batman was created older.)

On the other hand, Pete or the Kents might tell Lana. Then, if Clark ever returns for her she would be part of the plan to plant kryptonite on him. Clark certainly wouldn't let Pete get close enough to do so.

On a third hand, the Kents could tell Batman. Yes, that's three hands, but kryptonite has caused stranger mutations than that. :rolleyes: And for all we know, Batman already knows Clark's name.

And you're right, whoever said it -- Lionel showed Clark his Kryptonite key, then it disappears less than twenty-four hours later? Lionel never, never let "civilians" see the original key when he had it, only those few who worked for him. This was almost certainly a test.

When Chloe does something she certainly doesn't stop at half measures, does she? Lionel may be playing on her frustration, humiliation, and sheer greed, but she didn't get that way solely because she's angry at Clark. She'd already begun the Wall of Weird before she ever showed it to Clark ; she's violated everyone's privacy whether friend or foe, repeatedly ; and she knows Lionel's ugly reputation. She also knows that Lionel ran Pete's parents out of business, so she obviously doesn't care if the new job will be dangerous to Pete either. Given that Pete broke into the caves, Lionel will probably assign Chloe to investigate him too. And she'll do it because "Pete always covers for Clark, so Pete's a jerk too." Looks like Pete should have hopped on the back of that bike when he had the chance.

EDIT : Was that metallic object in the ocean an oil rig? If so, that doesn't guarantee anyone will fetch Lex, as many rigs are unmanned. However if he can keep hold of a seat cushion and dogpaddle over there, he should have enough food (exhausted birds) to stay alive. Did anyone else see it?

Lionel's relationship with Lex, and Chloe's relationship with Clark are two sides of one coin. Truth is, Lionel and Chloe get along because they both exemplify an Ashleigh Brilliant drawing :

"If you don't let me make you happy, I'll make you suffer."

Brrr.

Remember when the fans were worried this show (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?threadid=10486) would stink (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?threadid=1445)? Nice to see everything proven wrong. So spectacularly, gloriously wrong. :)

[langden alger]

anyone else think that "the voice" in clark's head might possibly turn out to be braniac manipulating clark's ship and controlling superman by pretending to be clark's father? kind of a long shot but who knows...

btw. when i look at the sinister chloe, i can't help but think of what a cool live action harley quinn she could make.(just in a pure fantasy role of coarse.) she's def. got the acting chops for the part. and the hair and that big, cute grin really drive home the idea for me. anyone else ever consider this or is it just me?

[Kosh]

Re: Lex's crash/castaway-- surely there was a reason, beyond a one-liner, Jonathan gave Lex a compass. ;)

Personally, I think Helen drugged his drink, he passed out, they got off the plane, then a lone-pilot or whoever flew Lex alone over water and bailed out. Motive? Can't even come up with a plausible explanation. Just too many fishy parts for her to not be involved. Consider, though, that we still don't know what's in Lionel's envelope he tried to give to Helen... furthermore, he did have a "meeting" he dismissed Chloe for. Maybe with Helen?

Anyway, season three is looking good. Although I'd expect status quo, such as it is (obviously the relationships with Chloe and Lana would be different), to be restored two or three episodes into it. A "trek across America" seems too divergent to the show's core (which is showing Clark's past in Smallville). I don't see Clark getting past Metropolis. This would, however, be a nice time for him to run into Perry White (who Gough/Miller have said is a twenty-something reporter at this point). Maybe even a Lois encounter, although that could be stretching it.

Guess we'll see what happens.

[Terminatah]

anyone else think that "the voice" in clark's head might possibly turn out to be braniac manipulating clark's ship and controlling superman by pretending to be clark's father? kind of a long shot but who knows...Obviously it's General Zod exacting the ultimate revenge.


btw. when i look at the sinister chloe, i can't help but think of what a cool live action harley quinn she could make.(just in a pure fantasy role of coarse.) she's def. got the acting chops for the part. and the hair and that big, cute grin really drive home the idea for me. anyone else ever consider this or is it just me?Maybe if she was way more attractive.

-Terminatah

[czyznyck99]

Remember when the fans were worried this show would stink? Nice to see everything proven wrong. So spectacularly, gloriously wrong. :)

Fine, why did you have to explain all of that and not the show? 14 year olds who don't really care about high school and just want to see "Kid Superman" aren't going to get it. It was a good season finale, but it wasn't that good.

Later.

[RZetlin]

Re: Lex's crash/castaway-- surely there was a reason, beyond a one-liner, Jonathan gave Lex a compass. ;)

Personally, I think Helen drugged his drink, he passed out, they got off the plane, then a lone-pilot or whoever flew Lex alone over water and bailed out. Motive? Can't even come up with a plausible explanation. Just too many fishy parts for her to not be involved. Consider, though, that we still don't know what's in Lionel's envelope he tried to give to Helen... furthermore, he did have a "meeting" he dismissed Chloe for. Maybe with Helen?


If Helen wanted Lex dead, couldn't she have drugged his drink and then shot him with a gun? That would guarantee that Lex would be dead.

I doubt Lionel would kill Lex because he needs a heir to the throne.

Then again we haven't heard anything from Lex's brother lately. Hmm...

[Calhoun07]

I think the ship will reconstruct itself, a'la Iron Giant.

I think Lionel knew full well he was tempting Clark with that key, and I find it very likely he has another one stored away some where, and was only mad because he forgot to bring the spare with him after it wound up missing. And do you think Lionel's security would have been so slack as to NOT let Pete thru? Pete got in the caves because Lionel allowed it. And that leads me to wonder if Lionel knew about the ship, and knew the Kryptonite would destroy it, thus his tempting Clark with the key. Lionel knows far more about the Kents than Lex could ever hope for.

Sure Lex will survive the plane crash. The Joker has survived far worse, and Lex is as much as a survivor as the Joker.

[MILatino]

On a third hand, the Kents could tell Batman. Yes, that's three hands, but kryptonite has caused stranger mutations than that. :rolleyes: And for all we know, Batman already knows Clark's name.Batman? There is no Batman at this point. He's still Bruce Wayne and he's not much older than Clark. Also, Bruce knows nothing of Clark, Smallville, the meteors, etc. The only thing that would get a young Bruce to investigate all of the above if he had a business deal with Lex or Lionel and wanted to see who these men were. Then he would stumble upon the town and its residents. Business would be the only reason he would go to Smallville. Again, he's not Batman yet. Odd occurances in a small town would not interest him in the slightest because he's not a great detective yet.

At this point, we must stop treating Bruce like Batman. Batman doesn't exist.


anyone else think that "the voice" in clark's head might possibly turn out to be braniac manipulating clark's ship and controlling superman by pretending to be clark's father? kind of a long shot but who knows...Again, speculations going way too far into the future. Brainiac is not on earth yet and knows nothing of the young Kryptonian. Sticking to the current cast is far more realistic. Brainiac is a future villain.

[Terminatah]

Nah. I think it was pretty obvious that, as far as the following points, what we saw was the real deal:


I think the ship will reconstruct itself, a'la Iron Giant.I don't find this likely. The thing practically disintegrated before exploding.

Although it would be nice to know where Jor-El's voice was coming from at the very end when Clark was on the motorcycle (if not from Clark's head).


I think Lionel knew full well he was tempting Clark with that key, and I find it very likely he has another one stored away some where, and was only mad because he forgot to bring the spare with him after it wound up missing.Mad because he forgot to bring the spare? You can't just go out and make a whole set of these things at Home Depot.


And do you think Lionel's security would have been so slack as to NOT let Pete thru? Pete got in the caves because Lionel allowed it.Pete didn't get through to anything. Pete was as far out as permissable for the filming of the scene. One step back and they would've run out of cave set.


And that leads me to wonder if Lionel knew about the ship, and knew the Kryptonite would destroy it, thus his tempting Clark with the key. Lionel knows far more about the Kents than Lex could ever hope for.Lionel would never guess kryptonite would destroy the spaceship (he doesn't even seem to know its effects on Clark). And even if he did, why would he tempt anyone to destroy it? Lionel loves to steal and tinker with crap like that.

-Terminatah

[pseudowudo]

Whoaaa!!! 'Smallville''s 2nd season ender, 'Exodus' was Totally Awesome!!, The scene that really hit home for me is when Jonathan Kent asked the doctor about the baby and then he turned his back on Clark.
On another point in this episode, we saw what happened when Clark placed the Kryptonite key into the ship, it left me wondering, would the same thing happen if Lionel used the duplicate key in the cave? It would also appear that Clark inadvertedly saved the lives of Lionel and the others in the cave. I especially enjoyed that scene when Pete distracted Lionel and in a fraction of a second you just see a blur entering and exiting the cave, and Luthor Sr. screaming out after he realised that the key is missing, he was so close (if at all) to solving the mysterious writings and that chance was snatched away from him.
I too was pleased that Pete was the voice of reason to a grieving Clark. I have to agree with 'Calhoun07' about the ship reconstructing itself (and I hope so too) because it was a major part of his Kryptonian heritage.
I eagerly look forward to Smallville's 3rd season.

[randomguy]

To whoever suggested Clark go to Gotham: that is a ridiculously good idea I hadn't thought of for some reason. That would be awesome.

And yes, some early version of the Flash or Green Lantern would be nice. It looks like Bruce is happening...

[Jedigreedo]

I don't find this likely. The thing practically disintegrated before exploding.

We didn't see it explode though. It disappeared, then the shockwave came. There wasn't any debris or trace of the ship after that. I think it sunk into some sort of quantum flux and will regenerate itself to appear later. I think it's what will form the Fortress of Solitude ala the green crystal in the Superman movie, it just has to do to the key what it did to Lana's necklace. Afterall, we've seen it do shockwaves before and survive, and the one before last was even a 'positive' sort of thing. This was just bigger and more 'negative' due to the kryptonite so I think it'll be back.



Mad because he forgot to bring the spare? You can't just go out and make a whole set of these things at Home Depot.

He's got the hand and a load of Kryptonite, I think he could easily have made multiples at the same time.

[Russkafin]

Hmmm... anyone want to hazard a guess as to what would have happened if Lionel put the kryptonite key in the cave wall? Would the caves have disintegrated? Would Lionel have ended up like Dr. Walden? Nothing would have happened? Who knows??

[Calhoun07]

Hmmm... anyone want to hazard a guess as to what would have happened if Lionel put the kryptonite key in the cave wall? Would the caves have disintegrated? Would Lionel have ended up like Dr. Walden? Nothing would have happened? Who knows??

I doubt anything good. Lionel knows there's more to Clark and the Kryptonite than meets the eye (obviously!), but I don't think he knows what he is playing with here. And if he doesn't have a spare key, he can still have another made. I doubt he had just one made and threw away the mold for it.

[Viper]

What can I say but that it was a fantastic episode!!!!!

I was shocked when Clark blew up the spaceship and Martha's unborn baby was killed in the process.

Only, now with the red ring on him, what's Clark gonna do now? Plus, who knows where he's going to? My guess is Metropolis, but that's just a guess.

Can't wait for next season!

[Webryder]

I was shocked when Clark blew up the spaceship and Martha's unborn baby was killed in the process.

That brings up a question I had after I saw that whole scene: Did Martha lose the baby because of the trauma caused by the shockwave overturning the truck or was it directly due to the ship being destroyed? After all it was the ship that got her pregnant in the first place, who knows what kind of connection the unborn fetus had to it.




And that leads me to wonder if Lionel knew about the ship, and knew the Kryptonite would destroy it, thus his tempting Clark with the key. Lionel knows far more about the Kents than Lex could ever hope for.


If Lionel knew all that, why'd he be asking Chloe to work up a secret profile on Clark, why even bother getting her involved in the first place? He's to clever to show his hand and let anyone else in on his interest in Clark then was absolutely neccessary. I think all he actually knows is that Clark is the key to unlocking the mystery of the caves, beyond that....zilch. I'm betting he doesn't even know Clark's an alien yet.




Again, speculations going way too far into the future. Brainiac is not on earth yet and knows nothing of the young Kryptonian. Sticking to the current cast is far more realistic. Brainiac is a future villain.

Here's a wild idea, what if the ship is actually telling the truth about being the downloaded consciousness of Jor-el but the transfer from man to machine twisted it into a logical, analytical perversion of what he was (kinda like in that Batman Beyond ep. with the dead CEO whose consciousness takes over Terry's suit) and that over time turns it into Brainiac on the show....that'd be a great re-interpretation on an old character.




Re: Lex's crash/castaway-- surely there was a reason, beyond a one-liner, Jonathan gave Lex a compass

Yeah, I almost forgot about the compass. I remember thinking how unusual it was as a wedding present but coupled with the castaway-like plane crash, it's a pretty glaring clue that Lex probably will end up stranded on an island or lost out at sea or both at which time the compass will come in handy.




When Chloe does something she certainly doesn't stop at half measures, does she? Lionel may be playing on her frustration, humiliation, and sheer greed, but she didn't get that way solely because she's angry at Clark.

I actually agree with Chloe taking Luthor up on his offer. She's played nothing but the victim this entire season in the whole Lana/Clark love affair and from her view Clark was willing to sacrifice his job at the Torch and even their friendship for any shred of a chance he could get to be with Lana ending with him not being able to even be truthful with her about them getting together (Last staw). So, in her mind, why should she blindly pass up on oppurtunity of a lifetime out of loyalty to him after he seemingly threw away the last best chance to save what was left of their dying friendship?

If nothin' else we're finally getting some personality and development out of a character that's been held stagnant most of the season.

[Terminatah]

That brings up a question I had after I saw that whole scene: Did Martha lose the baby because of the trauma caused by the shockwave overturning the truck or was it directly due to the ship being destroyed? After all it was the ship that got her pregnant in the first place, who knows what kind of connection the unborn fetus had to it.Martha was not impregnated by the ship. Martha was unable to conceive because of some internal problem. The ship's burst of light is meant to neutralize kryptonite, but it also seems to have a healing effect. Martha's internal problem was cured by the ship early in the season, and she was able to become pregnant later on.

Then she lost the baby because she was in a truck that flipped over and also gave her a concussion.

-Terminatah

[Calhoun07]

If Lionel knew all that, why'd he be asking Chloe to work up a secret profile on Clark, why even bother getting her involved in the first place? He's to clever to show his hand and let anyone else in on his interest in Clark then was absolutely neccessary. I think all he actually knows is that Clark is the key to unlocking the mystery of the caves, beyond that....zilch. I'm betting he doesn't even know Clark's an alien yet.
Does Lionel have anything concrete on Clark, tho? He knows that Clark had a mysterious enterance into the world (he helped do the cover up about his "adoption" if you recall, so he knows Clark doesn't have birth parents that can be put on paper, at the very least), and he obviously knows Clark can do miraculous things with his powers (don't forget that he was faking his blindness, and could see Clark do all those things. ALL those things, I don't care what anybody says. "Clark is an interesting boy" indeed!) but what he lacks is the hidden room Lex has. Lex has all the hard copy stuff on Clark, and Lionel has all the eye witness stuff on Clark. What Lionel really wants is not what Chloe can provide, but what Lex has, and what Lex really wants is what Lionel has. If they would both just sit down and discuss Clark and share what each one has on him, the results would be incontrovertible. As long as Lex holds his cards under the table and as long as Lionel refuses to see that Lex and him could benefit greatly by getting on the same page with Clark and wastes his time with Chloe, then they will just spin their wheels. But all Lionel knows at this point is that Chloe has a knack for uncovering the wierd in Smallville, and undoubtedly paid close attention to the issue of the Torch that had the symbol on the barn, and all he knows at this point is to turn to her, but he needs to be getting with Lex on this.

[MILatino]

and he obviously knows Clark can do miraculous things with his powers (don't forget that he was faking his blindness, and could see Clark do all those things. ALL those things, I don't care what anybody says. "Clark is an interesting boy" indeed!)Negative, Will Robinson. Lionel was not faking the blindness the whole time. He really was blind for a while and did not actually witness Clark doing all those super feats. After he regained his sight (but was still faking it), Clark had not done anything super right in front of him. So Lionel knows something's up, but never actually caught him in the act.

[Calhoun07]

Negative, Will Robinson. Lionel was not faking the blindness the whole time. He really was blind for a while and did not actually witness Clark doing all those super feats. After he regained his sight (but was still faking it), Clark had not done anything super right in front of him. So Lionel knows something's up, but never actually caught him in the act.

Proove it. Show me the episode where the doctor himself diagnosed Lionel as blind. There wasn't one, he just told Lex, and Lex bought it hook, line, and sinker.

Now, this has been debated long and hard on other message boards, and I don't understand why fans want to believe he was genuinely blind. There were clues, too many clues to remember and mention off the top of my head, in many of his "blind" episodes to show that he could see. Or either that he is a poor actor who can't play blind, but I don't think so, the guy who plays him is good.

I don't know all the examples off the top of my head, but there are many that probably could be found in the archives of official Smallville WB message boards, but one off the top of my head was when somebody was going to shoot Lionel and Clark stepped in front of him and blocked the bullets, and Lionel, in that huge room, found the bullets and was holding them as if they were a treasured thing. You can bet your bottom dollar he still has them, and has had them examined to see if they hit a wall or what. And what about the episode where Clark held down the helicopter? Lionels response to how special Clark was? Dude, stop frontin', Lionel could SEE Clark. He kept on going on and on about how "special" Clark was after things like this. "It's interesting what people will do in front of you when they think you can't see," he admitted later. Who is the Will Robinson now? And then there is the hostage episode, when that person pulled the gun on Lionel, there is no mistaking, none whatsover, the look of surprise in Lionel's face at the sight of the gun. HE SAW IT. Then he tried to cover it up right away, "Uh, what is it Clark? What does he have?" Yeah, right. You could chalk it up to poor acting, he can't play a blind guy, but he plays a poker face fine and well. No, there were clues all along, don't deny it.

It's just as all the people who debated what Lex knew about Clark, then we see that room full of all that stuff he has on Clark. Lionel knows far more about Clark than we have ever heard him say on screen, believe me. What do you think that thick file was for in the hostage episode?

[Terminatah]

Proove it. Show me the episode where the doctor himself diagnosed Lionel as blind. There wasn't one, he just told Lex, and Lex bought it hook, line, and sinker.

Now, this has been debated long and hard on other message boards, and I don't understand why fans want to believe he was genuinely blind. There were clues, too many clues to remember and mention off the top of my head, in many of his "blind" episodes to show that he could see. Or either that he is a poor actor who can't play blind, but I don't think so, the guy who plays him is good.

He was blind for a while after the surgery. One example of a private moment of blindness is when he was trying to read the newspaper with that dictating talky stick and Martha came up to him and helped him out.

And you can't count "moments where it looks like he can see," because sometimes, real blind people do have that effect. Those moments don't count unless they make a definitive point to have us notice -- like Lionel's reaction to Lucas' "BITE ME" signature.


I don't know all the examples off the top of my head, but there are many that probably could be found in the archives of official Smallville WB message boards, but one off the top of my head was when somebody was going to shoot Lionel and Clark stepped in front of him and blocked the bullets, and Lionel, in that huge room, found the bullets and was holding them as if they were a treasured thing. You can bet your bottom dollar he still has them, and has had them examined to see if they hit a wall or what.

Clark put the gun to his hand and fired three rounds into his own palm. Lionel couldn't even see it, but you could tell he heard the bullets drop to the ground. He had the bullets later because picking stuff up off the floor is not an entirely impossible task for a blind man.


And what about the episode where Clark held down the helicopter? Lionels response to how special Clark was? Dude, stop frontin', Lionel could SEE Clark. He kept on going on and on about how "special" Clark was after things like this.

"Dude, stop frontin'?" Excellent point. But Clark never held down a helicopter; crazy basement poet guy did. And Lionel's comments about how Clark is special started after the bullet scene.


"It's interesting what people will do in front of you when they think you can't see," he admitted later. Who is the Will Robinson now? And then there is the hostage episode, when that person pulled the gun on Lionel, there is no mistaking, none whatsover, the look of surprise in Lionel's face at the sight of the gun. HE SAW IT. Then he tried to cover it up right away, "Uh, what is it Clark? What does he have?" Yeah, right. You could chalk it up to poor acting, he can't play a blind guy, but he plays a poker face fine and well. No, there were clues all along, don't deny it.I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had signed testimony from the producers of the TV show swearing to God that Lionel could see the whole time. As long as there is reasonable doubt -- and there is -- we can deny eeeeeeeverything.


It's just as all the people who debated what Lex knew about Clark, then we see that room full of all that stuff he has on Clark. Lionel knows far more about Clark than we have ever heard him say on screen, believe me. What do you think that thick file was for in the hostage episode?You tell us, Mr. Robinson.

I still think Lionel is faking his vision. More on that this fall.

-Terminatah

[Calhoun07]

I told you I didn't remember the exact details, so pointing out the errors in my post on the exact details only supports what I already said, thanks. I could dig on my posts on dvdtalk.com and find my exact examples after each episode, and support it with what others said. Of course, it's just a debate, and a good, healthy one at that. Let's keep it that way. I could be wrong, you could be wrong. I think that the fact that he was never diagnosed as blind by a professional doctor was a telling clue to his faking it, as were his needs for "help." But I don't have the time to search out all the posts on other message boards I participated in to show you what I am talking about, I know what I am talking about, even if I don't remember the exact details of an episode from December this far into May, sorry. If you've been following the debate, then you're already familar with not what arguments I would postulate, but what others would postulate as well, and if you still draw the conclusion, then that's cool. As you said, we will learn more in season three!

But I don't understand something you said at the end there, it totally left me baffled?
I still think Lionel is faking his vision.

You think he's faking his being able to see???? If I am reading that right, and you're calling my theories I point to wrong, I'd love to read your thoughts on this, but I trust I am just reading that wrong.

[The Penguin]

"You will obey me, Kal-El." - Jor-El, Exodus

This season's finale is definately a step up from last season. It perhaps wasn't as cliffhanger-ish as the tornado, but it left me with a lot more questions and concerns than last time.

I still don't know what to make of Jor-El and his message to Clark. In my experience the people of Krypton (or at the very least, Jor-El and Lara) have never been portrayed as some war-like race that would want Kal-El to dominate the Earth. I think poor Clark has become more scared of himself than anything else.

It's a shame that Clark is blaming himself fro Martha losing the baby. Granted it's basically his fault, and Jonathon was upset with him, but if he knew Clark was going to leave Smallville I know he would have tried to stop him. Just because he get made at someone doesn't mean you don't still love.

Man I don't know what the heck is going with Lex as he crashes in the sea. Maybe Helen went nuts? :confused:

Chloe going to "the dark side" was slightly surprising, but she has violated Clark's privacy so many times before I was slightly surprised she didn't take the offer the first time Lionel made it. Once again though Lionel Luthor proves he is the puppet master. The line about love blinds us was exactly what Chloe Sullivan needed to hear.

The nice payoff though was Clark and Lana finally getting their feelings out there. This have been a long time coming.

"I love you, Clark."
"I love you too, more than you'll ever know."


And for those of you who are debating Chloe having a guy's ring, Clark said something to the effect of "I know Chloe kept one of those red kryptonite rings around here." It does not belong to Chloe in the sense that is the one she wears, it is something for her Wall of Weird collection.

[Calhoun07]

I still don't know what to make of Jor-El and his message to Clark. In my experience the people of Krypton (or at the very least, Jor-El and Lara) have never been portrayed as some war-like race that would want Kal-El to dominate the Earth. I think poor Clark has become more scared of himself than anything else.


It's been a while since I read Superman comic books, and I don't even have the older issues to refer to, but didn't John Byrne introduce a more war-like Krypton? And wasn't there some story lines in both the comics and in Bruce Timm's animated series that suggested that Superman was originally intended to rebuild Krypton on Earth? I remember at least one episode of the animated series where Bizzaro tried to rebuild Krypton on Earth because Superman wasn't doing his job at it, or something to that effect. And in issue 400 of Superman, where they had all the future stories about Superman, wasn't the last story in there along the lines Superman was one of the last survivors on Earth and was finally able to rebuild Krypton? I think this concept isn't new, and the Smallville writers are just playing with it a little more.


Man I don't know what the heck is going with Lex as he crashes in the sea. Maybe Helen went nuts?

I suspect she is in cahots with Lionel.

[Buddy Lee]

I finally got to see the season finale of "Smallville". Thank you, Easyview. So, is season three going to begin with Clark arriving back in Smallville or will we get to see his travels? Some truly great performances from Lana, Pete, the Kents, the Luthors, and Clark.

I did not expect him to put on the red kryptonite ring. Did he really need the ring to motivate him to leave town? Won't the ring cause more problems in his travels?

IMO, it was not as good as last year's finale with the tornados. I was a big fan of the blossoming romance of Chloe and Clark and seeing them go to the formal together was bittersweet. But, Lana's performances this season have been truly awe-inspiring. She has to be one of the better teen actresses on TV right now.

Here's hoping for another critically acclaimed season of the best show on TV

[Antiyonder]

To answer your question Buddy Lee, he was filled with guilt and putting on the ring would take that feeling away from him. Basically he was using it as a drug.

[Webryder]

It's been a while since I read Superman comic books, and I don't even have the older issues to refer to, but didn't John Byrne introduce a more war-like Krypton? And wasn't there some story lines in both the comics and in Bruce Timm's animated series that suggested that Superman was originally intended to rebuild Krypton on Earth? I remember at least one episode of the animated series where Bizzaro tried to rebuild Krypton on Earth because Superman wasn't doing his job at it, or something to that effect. And in issue 400 of Superman, where they had all the future stories about Superman, wasn't the last story in there along the lines Superman was one of the last survivors on Earth and was finally able to rebuild Krypton? I think this concept isn't new, and the Smallville writers are just playing with it a little more.

There was also also a story arc in the comics about a kryptonanian artifact (Eradicator) that possessed Kal-el's body to make him remake earth in Krypton's image. Later got it's own corporeal form after Superman tossed it into the sun and then attempted to bring about Earth's "final solution" itself. Sounds alot like the situation that developed in the finale but who knows. What do you people think...real Jor-El, Eradicator or what?

[Ordinary Guy]

Sorry I'm late, I just got to watch it today.

But.

Sweet merciful crap! That was a great finale.

I have a feeling next season will be a little bit darker.

Chloe giving in to the darkside just to get back at Clark that b****h. And to think I felt for her this season. You have to think if the stuff Clark told her about himself in "Rush" is starting to come back to her.

That symbol carved into Clark's chest was nasty, how does he explain that one when he takes his shirt off.

Hearing Terence Stamp (aka General Zod) as the voice of Jor-El in this episode and last weeks episode was just mind blowing. I never would've thought of him as Jor-El a couple a months ago when I started a thread about who should play him if Clark ever meets him face to face. What do you think he meant by at the end when he told Clark. "You will obey me!"

Did Helen really set up Lex or was someone else behind it. Other than the Kents, and Lana, Helen was the last person I would suspect to do something that evil. It raises more questions. Now that she has Lex's money and has seen his little operation based around Clark, and has Clark's blood. Just imagine what she could do. And how will Lex survive this one.

And poor Clark were to now. Metropolis, Central City, Edge City, Gotham. And who exactly will bring him back to his senses. John, Martha, Lana, Pete, Lois Lane.

Can't wait til' next season. But poor me I would'nt have any time to see it. Man I need a Tivo.

[All-Star 1.5]

EDIT : Was that metallic object in the ocean an oil rig? If so, that doesn't guarantee that anyone will fetch Lex, as many rigs are unmanned. However if he can keep hold of a seat cushion and dogpaddle over there, he should have enough food (exhausted seabirds) to stay alive. Did anyone else see it?

Or maybe he will land on an uncharted island and meet another boy millionaire lost at sea(who has become pretty good with an arrow), that was hinted at in an earlier episode of Smallville.

I mean if Clark meets Bruce Wayne,John Irons or even John Jones whose to say Lex can't meet a futute hero or villian.


I will give this episode 5 stars it was just great and it really topped last year's finale in so many ways. IMO next season will have so much potential I really hope they don't waste it.

So here's hoping for next year.

BTW what grade is Clark suppose to be in because I heard that once he graduates and leaves Smallville is probably when the show will end.

[Webryder]

Alot of speculation has been made about whether Lex's bride and Lionel were working together to kill Lex with the plane crash and while I agree with the part of some theories that had her drugging him and leaving him there to die for whatever reason, money, revenge what have you, I don't think Lionel had anything to do with it. Firstly it doesn't go at all with his future plans to have Lex succeed him with LEXCORP nor with all the apparent grooming he's done to get Lex there.

But a tangible albeit very subtle clue is at the near end when he's talking with Chloe at the Torch and he says something like, 'At least someone decided to take him up on his offer." The someone in that sentence implies he's made hush-hush requests to more than one person. One of them being obviously Chloe, which leads me to guess the other was the new Mrs. Luthor which was what the whole mysterious envelope deal was about. It was a payoff, not to get her to kill Lex, but to get some kind of physical profile on Clark. The whole Lex business, if she did it, was all her.

But that's just my opinion tho, I could be wrong.

[Terminatah]

It was a payoff, not to get her to kill Lex, but to get some kind of physical profile on Clark.As far as the Luthors know, she never treated Clark.

-Terminatah

[The Penguin]

Smallville's season premiere, "Exile" is just a two weeks away on Wednesday, October 1 at 8 p.m. ET on The WB! This episode airs at 9 p.m. ET after Calling (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=955400#post955400).

To help get you all adjusted to Smallville's new time slot and to revisit the most recent adventure of Clark, Lana, Lex, Pete, Chloe, Lionel and Jonathan and Martha. I'll see you all Wednesday for the new season!

Clark's life will never be the same! Here is the official preview from TheWB.com (http://www.thewb.com)


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Smallville #2-23 "Exodus"
A sense of foreboding surrounds Smallville as Clark (Tom Welling) must choose between staying with Lana (Kristin Kreuk) and his family or fulfilling his destiny to rule the Earth. Meanwhile, Lex (Michael Rosenbaum) and Helen (Emmanuelle Vaugier) plan their upcoming wedding, but outside forces may ultimately keep them apart. Also, a hurt Chloe (Allison Mack) considers Lionel's (John Glover) offer to investigate Clark.

Sam Jones III, Annette O'Toole and John Schneider also star. Greg Beeman directed the episode written by Al Gough & Miles Millar.