Another new Supergirl?

[NinjaJack]

Ok, I was enjoying a supes comic when I stumble apon his daugher Cir-El? Excuse me?

[Rand]

... in Superman: the Ten Cent Adventure

Don't ask me. I think it's a stupid storyline, and don't read Superman titles very often besides. Batman is the way to go, baby!

[Jor-El]

... in Superman: the Ten Cent Adventure

Don't ask me. I think it's a stupid storyline, and don't read Superman titles very often besides. Batman is the way to go, baby!Personally, I think it's kind'a strange to call a storyline "stupid" until it is actually played out and explained to us readers. (And I should emphasize "readers"; you, Rand, admit that you don't even read SUPERMAN, so why do you especially care how "stupid" you hastily label it?) The storyline could very well be stupid, but we really don't know anything about Cir-El yet except for all of 6 pages that she's appeared on, where she and her makers (?) were vague on details. I'll need to see what happens before I march around calling this stupid.

And just for the record, I believe that SUPERMAN is the only good Superman title currently being printed. I hear good things about ADVENTURES since 612 (I can't bring myself to pay to read it, but whatever,) and I hear that ACTION is just unreadable. Not that this has any bearing on the foolishness of calling the Supergirl storyline "stupid," but I figured I'd just put that in.

[John6777]

OK WAIT SHE HAS APPEARED AFTER THE 10 Cent adventure??? What issues has she been in. I must admist i haven't gotten Superman since Batman is taking off but i really want to know about the new Supergirl. I am hoping that hopefully Linda sees this chick and comes back and kicks her butt. I miss linda she was a great supergirl.

[Reed Richards]

John6777:

read the final issue of Supergirl.

'Nuff said.

and for the record, i'm not sure i could agree more with barry's comments. right on the mark

[John6777]

John6777:

read the final issue of Supergirl.



I have it but Peter David made open for a return of Supergirl. I mean any writer can just make Linda come back and probably will. Besides the 10 Cent Adventure what else has this new supergirl be in?

[Rand]

First, I don't like Superman. That's a personal bias, take that as you will. I mean, I recognise that he's an international icon, one of mythic proportions... but I'm really tired of Superman fans toting him as the greatest thing since cottage cheese.

Though, I'm sure the Superman fans are just as tired of hearing us claim that Batman can beat the pants off anyone with the proper planning. It's what makes things interesting.

Now, as I've said... I don't read it -often-. That doesn't mean I don't read it at all. That doesn't mean I don't follow the comic news. That doesn't mean I don't have friends who read the titles and who discuss them with me.

What makes me think it's stupid... is the fact that there were, upon her introduction, THREE Supergirls running around. PAD's two... AND this one. That fact -alone- makes it stupid in my mind. Now, this could pan out to be a great story... if that's so, great, finally something for me to get in the Superman titles... but it doesn't seem likely. Why did a new Supergirl have to appear when there were already two running around? Wasn't one of the dumbest moves in the history of comics Spider-Man's clones storyline?

*shaking head* If you want me to be specific, then, I think it's bad timing and will probably result in a lame end product, based on how badly the ball has been fumbled in the past. Now, I think it's -foolish- to have to write this much when the man just asked for simple information, and I simply put in an opinion... but hey, you get all sorts in here. Heh.

[Anthonynotes]

>>First, I don't like Superman. That's a personal bias, take that as you will. I mean, I recognise that he's an international icon, one of mythic proportions... but I'm really tired of Superman fans toting him as the greatest thing since cottage cheese.


Though, I'm sure the Superman fans are just as tired of hearing us claim that Batman can beat the pants off anyone with the proper planning. It's what makes things interesting.
<<

Actually, Superman's probably my favorite superhero---and I find Batman in the current non-animated comics to be...well, let's just say "hero" isn't the four-letter word(s) I have in mind to describe him. ;-)

And yeah, the "Batman can beat anyone with enough time to prepare" thing's getting old---what if he *doesn't* have "enough time to prepare"? Huh? I mean, in a battle situation, it's not like there's always the luxury of time... and he didn't need "enough time to prepare" in the past (pre-90's comics)...
</ranting off>

>>
Now, as I've said... I don't read it -often-. That doesn't mean I don't read it at all. That doesn't mean I don't follow the comic news. That doesn't mean I don't have friends who read the titles and who discuss them with me.

What makes me think it's stupid... is the fact that there were, upon her introduction, THREE Supergirls running around. PAD's two... AND this one. That fact -alone- makes it stupid in my mind. Now, this could pan out to be a great story... if that's so, great, finally something for me to get in the Superman titles... but it doesn't seem likely. Why did a new Supergirl have to appear when there were already two running around? Wasn't one of the dumbest moves in the history of comics Spider-Man's clones storyline?

*shaking head* If you want me to be specific, then, I think it's bad timing and will probably result in a lame end product, based on how badly the ball has been fumbled in the past. Now, I think it's -foolish- to have to write this much when the man just asked for simple information, and I simply put in an opinion... but hey, you get all sorts in here. Heh.<<

From what I can tell (in my sporadic reading), Cir-El's some orchestration of some sort of secretive futuretech/time-manipulating group called the Futuresmiths...


Re: too many Supergirls: Wonder what you make of Power Girl, then (who pre-Crisis at least was Supergirl's Earth-2 counterpart...and post-Crisis was supposedly given false memories for awhile to make her believe she was Superman's cousin).

-B.

[John6777]

What makes me think it's stupid... is the fact that there were, upon her introduction, THREE Supergirls running around. PAD's two... AND this one. That fact -alone- makes it stupid in my mind. Now, this could pan out to be a great story... if that's so, great, finally something for me to get in the Superman titles... but it doesn't seem likely. Why did a new Supergirl have to appear when there were already two running around? Wasn't one of the dumbest moves in the history of comics Spider-Man's clones storyline?



Well if you actually read Supergirl PADS 2 are gone. Kara went back to her world and Linda Quit and her wherabouts are unknown. Also if you know DC and any company you would know with no Supergirl around they pretty much have to make another one since they need to keep the Copyright.

[Jor-El]

Besides the 10 Cent Adventure what else has this new supergirl be in?Superman 190 and Superman 191. She will undoubtedly be in upcoming issues as the story comes to head and unfolds.

[Nobuyuki sama]

Linda Quit and her wherabouts are unknown.
And I maintain that if you read the last page very carefully, you will see that Linda voluntarily went somewhere that she won't return from.

[John6777]

And I maintain that if you read the last page very carefully, you will see that Linda voluntarily went somewhere that she won't return from.

You can't say she won't return. If a writer wants her back he will bring her back and i think she just needs some time alone to find herself and we will prolly be seeing her again.

[Nobuyuki sama]

You can't say she won't return. If a writer wants her back he will bring her back and i think she just needs some time alone to find herself and we will prolly be seeing her again.
No I can't say she won't return, but it would have to be one heck of a writer to bring her back.
I'm reading it as she committed suicide and went to Hell, like she was planning to do at the beginning of the series. The circle is complete.
And PAD created 3 Supergirls. ;)

[John6777]

No I can't say she won't return, but it would have to be one heck of a writer to bring her back.
I'm reading it as she committed suicide and went to Hell, like she was planning to do at the beginning of the series. The circle is complete.
And PAD created 3 Supergirls. ;)


OK well i very much doubt that because she said don't try to look for her cause she doesn't want to be found. But it implies that if Superman was going to he would be able to find her.

John

[Ed Liu]

Howdy,


And I maintain that if you read the last page very carefully, you will see that Linda voluntarily went somewhere that she won't return from.

Well, so did Jean Grey in Uncanny X-Men #137 back in 1980. Took 10 years and one truly ludicrous explanation, but she's back. You don't have to be a good writer to bring her back -- just a determined one.

I'm pretty sure DC didn't bring back a "Supergirl" to keep the copyright. There is the Animated Age Supergirl to consider, the fact that Supergirl didn't exist in the DCU for quite a while (at least 4 or 5 years) between the Crisis and her re-introduction, and the fact that anybody creating a character named "Supergirl" with similar powers or outfits will get their pants sued off by AOL-TW faster than a speeding bullet. You might be thinking of Wonder Woman, which is kept in print because of William Moulton Marston's contract. Apparently, the rights to Wonder Woman revert back to him (or his estate) if DC doesn't publish a WW comic within a set period of time, but as far as I know, no other creator has scored that kind of deal with DC.

-- Ed/Ace

[Nobuyuki sama]

Well, so did Jean Grey in Uncanny X-Men #137 back in 1980. Took 10 years and one truly ludicrous explanation, but she's back. You don't have to be a good writer to bring her back -- just a determined one.
Yeah, she could be brought back, but I don't think I'd wanna' read it.
John, read and interpret the ending any way you want, just as I am. :D


I'm pretty sure DC didn't bring back a "Supergirl" to keep the copyright.

Replace "Copyright" with "Trademark" and it makes more sense. People mix those terms up all the time.

[Anthonynotes]

Yeah, she could be brought back, but I don't think I'd wanna' read it.
John, read and interpret the ending any way you want, just as I am. :D


Replace "Copyright" with "Trademark" and it makes more sense. People mix those terms up all the time.


Yes... DC will hold the *copyright* to Supergirl from now until probably when your *grandkids* are reading these things (cue grumbling about unfair extension of copyrights thanks to corporate lobbying), but the *trademark* isn't as ensured---an example is Capt. Marvel getting cancelled in the early 50's, and with no appearances for years, there wasn't any defense of the trademark...which allowed Marvel to publish their *own* version of Capt. Marvel and officially trademark it, thus forcing DC to publish any Cap stories as some variant of "Shazam!"

Hence,while they've ditched Supergirl, they'll surely be bound to reprint old Supergirl (in traditional costume) stories sporadically (if not bring her back), to maintain the trademark...

-B.

[John6777]

Official word for Peter David and he says that Linda is indeed still alive and is able to make a come back anytime soon. Obviously he won't be writing her comeback but she could come back. The only way i want to see Linda return is to fight the New Supergirl. I would want to see Linda face off against a real Kryptonian and see who comes out on top.

[Rand]

Brainatra - Of course Superman can beat Batman if Batman doesn't have the time to prepare. I mean, for all of Batman's skills... he's just a man. The argument is usually that, now that Batman -knows- of Superman's existence, he's probably got some plans to take care of Superman if he ever shows up at the Batcave with blood in his eye, but... honestly, there isn't much Batman can do. Superspeed is a real pain.

As for what I think of Power Girl... eh... let's just say I don't read JSA. Don't like the concept, but at least it's not another straight-out Supergirl, you know?

John6777 - ... and, as I said... AT HER INTRODUCTION... there were three Supergirls.

[Nobuyuki sama]

Official word for Peter David and he says that Linda is indeed still alive and is able to make a come back anytime soon. Obviously he won't be writing her comeback but she could come back.
Well, there you go, straight from the horse's mouth, then. Good.
Of course for me, no PAD=no read. :)

[John6777]

Yeah You're right Peter David made Supergirl what she is. Supergirl was a mindless naive blob before he got ahold of her. So No Pad No read is a good plan but Superman is becoming one of the best storylines since all the other Super titles suck. I hope Linda kicks Cir-el's ass.