worst movie ever

[joker]

chud 2:bud the chud. man this movie was awful. i rented chud and chud 2. chud was great. hoping for a great squeal, i got a piece of crap. this movie had no relation to the first. the "chuds" looked in no way like the originals, the acting was awful. it was one of those super 80s movies where every thing is distinctly 80s. man it was bad. the only relation it had to the first one was the name. that was it.

whats the worst movie youve ever seen?

[RockItShipper]

Originally posted by joker
chud 2:bud the chud. man this movie was awful. i rented chud and chud 2. chud was great. hoping for a great squeal, i got a piece of crap. this movie had no relation to the first. the "chuds" looked in no way like the originals, the acting was awful. it was one of those super 80s movies where every thing is distinctly 80s. man it was bad. the only relation it had to the first one was the name. that was it.

whats the worst movie youve ever seen?

"Birth of a Nation"

[Bird Boy]

"Batman and Robin", "Charlies Angels" & "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"..

the above were either really stupid, or really boring....just my oppinion though

-BB

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

The worst movie I ever saw was in driver's ed. class-it was a safety video featuring the Crash-Test Dummies. TRULY sappy, mostly propeganda anyone knew, and they even had a RAP SONG during the credits! My gosh, it was scary...:eek:

[Jowy Blight]

"Batman and Robin" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon". We all know the reasons to not liking B&R, but in CTHD, I honestly had no idea what was going on.

I was pretty lost most of the movie, I might of liked it better if I knew what was going on.

[Trent Lane]

Of the movies I've seen recently, I'd have to say Whipped. The trailer had some pretty funny parts in it. Guess what? That was pretty much it. I think it was someone's excuse to make some really bad sex jokes and use the "f" word more than 100 times in 85 minutes. 85 minutes I can never get back...

[Joe Tully]

While this overlaps with the MST3K thread, it must be said...

Manos: The Hands Of Fate

Also, honorable mentions

Jawbreaker
Gone Fishin'

[Calhoun07]

I feel like a good part of my life was wasted watching the American version of Godzilla and Hollow Man. About thee hours of my life I will NEVER get back.

[Brian Cruz]

Originally posted by joker
chud 2:bud the chud. man this movie was awful. i rented chud and chud 2. chud was great. hoping for a great squeal, i got a piece of crap. this movie had no relation to the first. the "chuds" looked in no way like the originals, the acting was awful. it was one of those super 80s movies where every thing is distinctly 80s. man it was bad. the only relation it had to the first one was the name. that was it.

whats the worst movie youve ever seen?

One of my film professors at NYU was the director of CHUD 2: Bud the CHUD. Just thought I'd mention that.

[NewMaxFranklin]

I must disagree on Croughing Tiger. I didn't think it was as great as a lot of other people, but it was ok IMO. I saw it twice and then read the screenplay, so I must have liked it.

My worst movie pics:
Recent
Batman and Robin
Tomb Raider
Charlie's Angels
Down to Earth
Jeepers Creepers
Series 7: the Contenders
All Time
North
Deep Rising
Striking Distance
Armageddon
Cannonball Run 1 & 2
Teaching Mrs. Tingle
The Sixth Man
Cyborg
Highlander 2
(American) Godzilla
Jaws The Revenge
Kazaam
Message in a Bottle
Lost in Space
The Indian in the Cupboard.

[Batmex]

Batman & Robin
Blair Witch
Godzilla
Jungle 2 Jungle
Knight Rider 2000(made for TV)
Street Fighter Alpha
Predator 2
Bride of Chucky

and the list goes on.......................................

All those showed in MST 3000

[DR. BELCH]

--Candy. Absolutely incomprehensible, and I walked out before it was over. A movie has to be absolutely abominable for me to do that. Matrix also sparked that reaction--who ever concieved the idea to combine slick techno sci-fi with existential materialistic philosophy? http://www.data-techniques.net/cwm/otn/puke/bashy.gif
For worst TV-to-screen adaptation, Sgt. Bilko. Steve Martin is funny, but he's no Phil Silvers. And Akyroyd was even worse as his commanding officer. I only got one laugh out of the whole thing, in the line about Pvt. Doberman wetting his bed (from across the room).

[sun]

I sponsored a sci fi movie clubat the high school that I taught at a number of years ago....It was clear to all who attended, that the slowest, most boring, and truly idiotic movie we ever saw was.......

" Plan 9 From Outer Space"...directed by Ed Wood It is so bad that many movie critics have mentioned this as one of the worst,if not the worst........Footnote, Bela Lagosi, (yes The Bela Lagosi, was in this film, died while it was being made, and you don't see a front shot, for most of the movie. The rule in the club, was, you could leave any time, and for any reason...This way people didn't need to justify to anyone going home early for some event. I think that day we started with 10 or 11 and ended with no more than 4, possibly 3. If you want bad, take it out. It is at many libraries to show how badly a movie can be made........A movie was made about Ed Wood, that was critically acclaimed...Someone, could give the name, I can't recall at this time.

[RockItShipper]

Originally posted by oldtoonguy
I sponsored a sci fi movie clubat the high school that I taught at a number of years ago....It was clear to all who attended, that the slowest, most boring, and truly idiotic movie we ever saw was....... " Plan 9 From Outer Space"...directed by Ed Wood It is so bad that many movie critics have mentioned this as one of the worst,if not the worst........Footnote, Bela Lugosi, (yes The Bela Lugosi, was in this film, died while it was being made, and you don't see a front shot, for most of the movie.
Or a full face shot. Ed Wood found someone who could pass for Lugosi from the nose up, so what you see is a face 1/2 covered by a cape the whole time. It's the only movie I know of that has a "worst movie ever!" blurb on the package.


A movie was made about Ed Wood, that was critically acclaimed...Someone, could give the name, I can't recall at this time.

The movie was called 'Ed Wood'. Actually, I've wanted to see it again for a while. But none of the real flicks made by this guy. I saw a couple, but I'm not inclined to again.

[DR. BELCH]

RockItShipper:
Ed Wood found someone who could pass for Lugosi from the nose up, so what you see is a face 1/2 covered by a cape the whole time.
Lugosi's stand-in was Wood's barber, I believe. Sort of like Joe DePalma standing in for Shemp Howard in a half-dozen Stooge films after his sudden death...but unlike the directors at Columbia, at least Wood had enough sense not to let the faux Bela speak!


Actually, I've wanted to see it again for a while.
Me too. For me the high point of the movie was Wood meeting the man he idolized most and aspired to be, Orson Welles--played by a shadowed Vincent DoNofrio and voiced by Maurice "The Brain" LaMarche. Ed Wood will be on Encore Sep 22 at 7 pm. Unfortunately I don't think I get that channel. :(

[James Harvey]

RETURN OF THE ATTACK OF THE KILLER TOMATOES.

Puts the first one to shame. Sure, the first one wasn't exactly gold, but still...

[Frozen]

Oh boy, are there ever a lot of candidates here...

OK, I have a short memory, so I'll just go with the more recent ones I've seen:

The Avengers: Patrick McNee isn't dead yet - but he'll turn in his grave once he is...
Charlie's Angels: Why, God why? Why was this film made..? Oh, yeah... T&A.
Batman and Robin: I'll never forgive them for what they did to Mr Freeze...
Star Trek: Generations: Long, dull, and Kirk deserved so much better...

and, my worst film ever..?

Star Wars Episode 1, The Phantom Menace: Don't even get me started...

Thanks for listening!

[Nightwing]

Oh dear lord Frozen changed his avatar!!!
*stares at amazing avatar for 6 hours*

Huh? Oh! Message boards. Right. So yeah I agree with what was said about Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. I liked it, but I had immense trouble trying to understand it. And being that I'm not a film buff, in that I may love movies, but only love what I like and no nothing of film's history, I'd probably list movies I LIKE that everyone else hates. So that being said, the only one on my list is Batman & Robin.

I won't say I loved movies like Mystery Men, and The Matrix, because that would just take educated film buffs and give them heart attacks. If it happens anyway, I appologize. :rolleyes:

Oooh I am gonna get beat down thanks to this post.....

[Maxie Zeus]

Well, I'm not sure it is fair to include Ed Wood-type films in a comparison of "worst movies ever." Movies require a lot of resources to make, and those like Wood or Hal Warren who operate at the edge can, I think, be somewhat forgiven if their efforts wind up looking dreadful.

Anyway, I think the title should be reserved for those films that had every advantage (lots of money, real talent, time, etc.) and loused it up really badly. "Hook" would be one of my nominees for worst movie. Stupid concept (What if Peter Pan grew up? Well, he wouldn't be Peter Pan!), incompatible acting styles (Hoffman's actorly immersion vs. Williams' ironic winking), lavish money that buys acres of prettiness and an inch of depth, an atrocious script, and a director who long ago outgrew "Disneyish" innocence. My friends and I walked out blinking and muttering "What the hell was that supposed to be?"

[RoboHobo]

Jack Frost 2

[Trent Lane]

Here's where I lose some respect, if I had any at all. I liked Charlie's Angels. Before it came out, I was like, "Man, that'll be the dumbest movie ever made." Then we went to see it, and I liked it. It wasn't some serious movie that you had to watch all the way through to get what's going on. You could just sit back and laugh...

Anyway, some other let downs include The Secret Life of Girls (indie film), Rushmore, and Batman & Robin, but I really don't have to say that, do I?

[Singin' Stray Cat]

I don't think either of these would be the worst movie ever, but here's a couple that disappointed me:

Galaxy Quest - Never did figure out if this was a comedy with a couple of morals thrown in, or a serious film with a couple of funny moments thrown in. Plus it was a Tim Allen movie - big strike there. He's great in sitcoms, but movies? ummm... well... he's okay, I guess.

Runaway Bride - I can't stand sappy romance movies anyway, so maybe I'm just biased... in any case, the only moment I thought was funny was a joke about FedEx.

[BourgeoisBuffoon]

RUNAWAY BRIDE is special to me because the town it was shot in-Berlin, Maryland-the site of my school. As such, the town was all excited over it....I remember me and a bunch of friends trying to become extras without success....:(

[Singin' Stray Cat]

Originally posted by BourgeoisBuffoon
RUNAWAY BRIDE is special to me because the town it was shot in-Berlin, Maryland-the site of my school. As such, the town was all excited over it....I remember me and a bunch of friends trying to become extras without success....:(

Really? I didn't know that. Maybe I would have liked the movie better if you and your friends had been hired! :D

Heh, I'll bet a lot of people here in Memphis have a similar feeling about The Firm. (I have a story from when it was being filmed, but maybe I'll tell it in another post some other time - it kinda wanders off-topic)

Speaking of topic, I just thought of another movie that disappointed me - Return of Jafar. Ugh.

[Calhoun07]

Originally posted by Singin' Stray Cat
I don't think either of these would be the worst movie ever, but here's a couple that disappointed me:

Galaxy Quest - Never did figure out if this was a comedy with a couple of morals thrown in, or a serious film with a couple of funny moments thrown in. Plus it was a Tim Allen movie - big strike there. He's great in sitcoms, but movies? ummm... well... he's okay, I guess.

Runaway Bride - I can't stand sappy romance movies anyway, so maybe I'm just biased... in any case, the only moment I thought was funny was a joke about FedEx.

Man, I like Tim Allen's movies, and Galaxy Quest was the best one yet!!!!

All of Julia Robert's movies, on the other hand, automatically suck because she sucks.

[Frozen]

Nightwing wrote


I won't say I loved movies like Mystery Men, and The Matrix, because that would just take educated film buffs and give them heart attacks. If it happens anyway, I appologize. :rolleyes:

Oooh I am gonna get beat down thanks to this post.....

Heh, Nightwing, if you like Matrix and Mystery Men (as do I), then stick to your guns - say it loud and be proud! I'm sure most of the guya and girls here are mature enough to realise that just 'cos they didn't like a film it doesn't mean anybody else can't enjoy it!

I personally like more than a few films that have been abused and ridiculed by movie 'buffs' and friends alike, but, so what? I'm not forcing anybody else to watch them...

... and thanks for the compliments about the Avatar!

[sun]

I would agree with Frozen. Nightwing, stick to your guns. People have different tastes for movies, just like they have different tastes for toons...What one person thinks is "great" another says is "awful". This thread has brought out some very intereresting and thought provoking ideas, and that is the real point. (at least to me).....As long as we respect each others opionions in a decent way, as we have done here, (Maxie's Rules) everyone is entitled to whatever opinion they have on worst or best films . In in this "opinion" area, no one opinion is more valid than another.

[sun]

A high budget film, that was supposed to be very bad, didn't see, but would like to add for discussion is Stephan Spielberg's 1941, a supposed comedy about the war.... Any body seen it?

[Trent Lane]

Yeah, I've seen it, most of it anyway. Not a movie that I'd pay to see, really. You think with all the people involve it could have been something...

I keep thinking of more movies I really hate, so here's another. 2000's Gone In Sixty Seconds. What a waste. The original, done in the 70's with about a non-exsistent budget was ten times better. The guy that did the movie also played the head car theif and did all his own stunts, realistic ones, not jumping a wrecker and bouncing off a fire truck, but this: The last part of the chase, he's got Eleanor (1973 Mustang) and he's being chased by about twenty or so squad cars. There's an overturned car at the intersection ahead of him, and the road is blocked off. He hits the gas, jumps the overturned car, lands it about on its nose, and gets away from the cops. So much better than Nick Cage's escape...

[sun]

Ishtar....with lots of stars, financing, and it just about put me to sleep...Good medicine for insomnia...

[Calhoun07]

1941 is a huge success in Europe. I have it on DVD, and I don't think it's not all that bad. Certainly not the best Spielberg movie ever, but I never thought it was worthy of the lashing it got from American audiences.

Another movie I hated all the way thru....Sugar and Spice. Another waste of my life.

[Scythemantis]

To me,the definition of a bad movie is a movie that fell very short of what it was aiming for and failed miserably...movies like jack frost and plan 9 dont aim very high,often hitting what they originally intended right on the nose,so I just can`t think of them as "bad"...

I can think of movies like "Titanic" as bad though...take away the millions of dollars worth of costume,makeup,set and special FX and all you have is a drab,recycled love story that we have all seen a thousand times (person A meets person B who is pretty much way out of their league,person B falls for person A anyway,person B gives up the big life for person A and one or both of them winds up dying.)

[sun]

In 1950, Walt Disney released a movie called Cinderella.......It was considered, and still is considered, a classic. Good animation, music, evil characters, love, fun, cuteness, etc.....
But its basic premise, that Prince Charming will come to the resuce of the lady in trouble, may make this worst movie ever...Why, millions, yes millions, have believed that some Prince Charming will run to the rescue, when none came, or worse still, that, that first love, is Prince Charming, without the analysis, that an intelligent being needs go thru to see if this is really love , for ever after.
Many might argue with this, but this movie acutally hurt people, with a lie, (how is a five or six year old to realize the lie? And this is real, not some made up idea.... Psychologists, have a name for it "Cinderella Complex" Too many books have been written about this idea to mention. But I wanted toadd this film to the list, even though, I kinda like it, but with the hurt that it has created (Don't tell Disney this, they will deny it, remember it was l950) it rates as one of the worst...

[joker]

Originally posted by oldtoonguy
In 1950, Walt Disney released a movie called Cinderella.......It was considered, and still is considered, a classic. Good animation, music, evil characters, love, fun, cuteness, etc.....
But its basic premise, that Prince Charming will come to the resuce of the lady in trouble, may make this worst movie ever...Why, millions, yes millions, have believed that some Prince Charming will run to the rescue, when none came, or worse still, that, that first love, is Prince Charming, without the analysis, that an intelligent being needs go thru to see if this is really love , for ever after.
Many might argue with this, but this movie acutally hurt people, with a lie, (how is a five or six year old to realize the lie? And this is real, not some made up idea.... Psychologists, have a name for it "Cinderella Complex" Too many books have been written about this idea to mention. But I wanted toadd this film to the list, even though, I kinda like it, but with the hurt that it has created (Don't tell Disney this, they will deny it, remember it was l950) it rates as one of the worst...


i cant say im a big fan of the cinderella movie, i hate mushy love stories (yes i know i sound like a 4 year old) but i disagree. lets admit, life aint peachy. i think movies like cinderella, or any other movie give people a chance to actually escape their reality, what ever it may be, sad, boring, over exposed, to be in a perfect world for 90 minutes give or take 20, and just forget about everything else. now if some one expects what they see to happen on the screen in their life, thats their problem.

also another really bad movie was monster squad, another one of those distinctive 80s movies with bad acting and next to no plot.

[James]

The worst movie for me?
My choice? Hmm, that is hard. If it's bad, I turn over or switch it off. I won't sit through a bad movie unless trapped in a cinema.

Firstly, I will comment on some of the films previously mentioned in this thread.

Charlies Angels: Before I saw this film I had a knee jerk hatred of it. I am not a fan of Barrymore, Lui or - shock horror - Diaz. The three of these vastly over rated 'stars' in a movie fills me with dread. If it hadn't been for Bill Murray I wouldn't have even glanced at it....

That said...

Have any of those who are so anti this film ever seen the original Charlie's Angels? For if you take the series into account, this films stands up quite well. The film isn't brilliant but compared to the frankly DREADFUL TV series, it does a pretty good job of emulating it, as well as hamming it too! I thought it did a reasonable job on a dire original concept. Certainly not the worst movie of all time if you take into account it's source material!

Ed Wood films. Yeah, they are bad, but as Maxie says they were hardly going to be anything amazing being little more that amateur films! In fact, the Hollywood adage 'it's so bad it's good' seems appropriate here.

Batman & Robin - Scandalous, and possibly even dangerous to say this, but enjoyed this film in the cinema despite it being duff. You just relax your mind, forget the damage it's done to the franchise and forget George Clooney. Then watch it as if you were watching an episode of the 60's Batman. It then ain't half as bad as you imagine. Wouldn't own it though - or watch it again for that matter....

Star Trek Generations: Rubbish, Shatner was cool, the rest was pap. Kirk should have gone down with the Enterprise D. If there was ever destined death - it was Kirk with the Enterprise. He should have been transported for the nexus to the Enterprise and died trying to land the ship.... a travesty of a film but still watchable.

For me, and I have grumbled at this before, the only film I have watched ALL the way through and felt - as Calhoun07 put it - that I had wasted a period of my life was Brazil. A classic for some, a sick, boring, depressing and frankly dull waste of time. Don't watch it - unless you want to of course!!!

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Originally posted by oldtoonguy
In 1950, Walt Disney released a movie called Cinderella.......It was considered, and still is considered, a classic. Good animation, music, evil characters, love, fun, cuteness, etc.....
But its basic premise, that Prince Charming will come to the resuce of the lady in trouble, may make this worst movie ever...Why, millions, yes millions, have believed that some Prince Charming will run to the rescue, when none came, or worse still, that, that first love, is Prince Charming, without the analysis, that an intelligent being needs go thru to see if this is really love , for ever after.
Many might argue with this, but this movie acutally hurt people, with a lie, (how is a five or six year old to realize the lie? And this is real, not some made up idea.... Psychologists, have a name for it "Cinderella Complex" Too many books have been written about this idea to mention. But I wanted toadd this film to the list, even though, I kinda like it, but with the hurt that it has created (Don't tell Disney this, they will deny it, remember it was l950) it rates as one of the worst...

I have no problem with this concept since it is harmless fantasy, and I hope most people know that. It's just like all those "Good triumphs over Evil" stories. I guess I'm going to be horribly scarred when bad guys get away with stuff in real life, huh? I mean, Romeo and Juliet is also a classic romance play, but don't anybody here tell me that their love was even CLOSE to realistic.

The biggest problem I had with Disney's Cinderella is that all the human drama was pretty much shoved aside for the antics of the talking rats or whatnot. I want to know what Cindy's feeling and a clear portrait of her emotions. If she's overly idealistic, play it up! But you basically see her through a looking glass (no Alice pun intended). The plot moves her from destination to destination without much regard to her character, and she comes across as fairly shallow. Basically, a well-drawn girl going through the motions, but you don't get to really KNOW her.

Yes, I know the original fairy tale had thin characterizations as well, but a feature film should expound on that and add some depth to fill its length.

[Frozen]

Can I change my list? Can I add "Dungeons and Dragons"? Can you believe how bad that film was..?

[Singin' Stray Cat]

While we're talking about bad movies (again), how many people here liked the Final Fantasy movie? Great animation, but most of the storyline kinda confused me...especially at the end...what the heck happened at the end? Also, was the movie based on the video games at all? Never played the games before... hmm...maybe that's why the movie didn't make much sense to me...

[redDragon]

Originally posted by Singin' Stray Cat
While we're talking about bad movies (again), how many people here liked the Final Fantasy movie? Great animation, but most of the storyline kinda confused me...especially at the end...what the heck happened at the end? Also, was the movie based on the video games at all? Never played the games before... hmm...maybe that's why the movie didn't make much sense to me...

I for one, animation aside, didn't like the Final Fantasy movie....a lot of the plot was predictable. The movie wasn't based on any of the video games, besides having a Cid in it...wait did it have a Cid? I don't remember....

[oranthal]

the worst movies are MotP and BB:ROTJ.

whoa, sorry. i was in bizarro world.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by SJJ


Star Trek Generations: Rubbish, Shatner was cool, the rest was pap. Kirk should have gone down with the Enterprise D. If there was ever destined death - it was Kirk with the Enterprise. He should have been transported for the nexus to the Enterprise and died trying to land the ship.... a travesty of a film but still watchable.



I've never felt that Kirk's death was a reason to dislike "Generations". That doesn't make sense to me. It wasn't a great movie. But it was definitely watchable, one that I'd call a solid effort.

I understand how important Kirk is to Star Trek, as well as how fitting it would have been for Kirk to die on his Enterprise. But I'd also say its important that Kirk die saving lives. And that's what he did. It's just like Kirk to go out saving millions of lives. More than that, I loved the fact that he died alone, as he always thought he would. Even before "Generations" came about and rumors were surfacing about him dying, I felt the actual moment should be like what he voiced in "Final Frontier." To me, it was fitting.

[Robin2099]

Don't know if anyones mentioned this one yet, but what about Speed 2. That was a movie with no redeeming qualitites in it period.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by Robin2099
Don't know if anyones mentioned this one yet, but what about Speed 2. That was a movie with no redeeming qualitites in it period.

I think you're right about that. I rented it once, watched for 20-30 minutes, then turned it off. It wasn't interesting me at all. Before seeing it, I thought Keanu had made a big mistake by not being a part of it. I figured it'd be a big hit like the first one and benefit his career. Turns out a made the right choice.

[joker]

i saw a pretty bad movie last night, return of the living dead. going into i didnt expect much,it being a night of the living dead rip off. there wasnt that much of a selection in the movie store this week end. but i figured since they were ripping off the night of the living dead movies it wouldnt be that bad. man i was wrong. it was aweful. sure it wasnt bad as some of the other horror movies ive seen but this one was up there. a lot of pointless nudity, one girl was nude the whole movie, the acting wasnt all to great, and there were some pretty stupid characters in it. the only good thing about it was that they zombies looked cool, but other than that they screwd up pretty bad on the zombies, only wanting brains, and being incredibly lember. rant rant. none of you have seen the movie and i doubt youd ever give it a first glance but if you do, dont get it.

[Bluntman]

This is a topic near and dear to my heart. Nothing drives me nuts more than a crappy movie. I've got quite a long list of crappy cinema to go through, so forgive me if I go a little long here.

1. Deep Blue Sea. This movie sucked so much. Samuel L. Jackson was billed as one of the stars, and doesn't go past the 20 minute mark before getting killed by a Jaws knockoff.

2. The Mummy Returns. OK, I know I'm going to catch flak for this one. But it needs to be said: BRENDAN FRASER SUCKS!!!!!! Except for Encino Man. I saw this movie with a friend who loves The Rock. She saw him, for 5 minutes. The rest of the movie wasn't worth it. You haven't lived til you've seen a Japanese woman wishing death on everyone involved with a movie in two languages. For an hour-long ride home.

3. Glitter. It's Mariah Carey. Enough Said.

4. Post Tim Burton Batman films. Don't get me started on this one...............

5. Star Wars Episode I. "Meesa Jar-Jar Binks!" "Yousa suck major!!"

6. Jaws: The Revenge. I guess they ran out of ideas for our shark in this one.

7. Ringmaster. We know Jerry Springer is fake. We don't need him in a movie driving that point home.

8. Superman 4: The Quest For Peace. Who thought this one up?!?!

9. The Avengers. If someone knows what the hell this movie was about, please e-mail me and let me know. That way, the money I spent for my ticket won't be wasted.

10. Battlefield Earth. This movie proves that John Travolta is only good in John Woo and Quentin Tarantino films. So bad it brought me to tears.

Other films deserving of mention are: Judge Dredd, Titanic, Mortal Kombat: Annihilation, Ready To Rumble, and last but certainly not least, Friday The 13: Jason Takes Manhattan.

Oh yeah, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was cool. It was a breath-taking film, and I highly recommend it.

[zero zero nine]

THE TALENTED MISTER RIPLEY... my Lord it sucked! talk about a pointless loser of a movie!

[Kal-el]

I love movies, and certain movies really excite me. Some of my worst movies are the ones that let me down the most. 3 big ones that were just terrible, IMO, come to mind:

Godzilla (Hollywood version)
Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
Batman and Robin

There are many more, but these are the only ones I can think of at the moment.

[James]

Originally posted by DarkAngel


I've never felt that Kirk's death was a reason to dislike "Generations". That doesn't make sense to me. It wasn't a great movie. But it was definitely watchable, one that I'd call a solid effort.

I understand how important Kirk is to Star Trek, as well as how fitting it would have been for Kirk to die on his Enterprise. But I'd also say its important that Kirk die saving lives. And that's what he did. It's just like Kirk to go out saving millions of lives. More than that, I loved the fact that he died alone, as he always thought he would. Even before "Generations" came about and rumors were surfacing about him dying, I felt the actual moment should be like what he voiced in "Final Frontier." To me, it was fitting.

He did indeed help save many lives, but I don't think that was what Kirk was about. I think Kirk had a far greater tie to the Enterprise - or similar vessel - than any other Star Trek character. A tie that the movies themselves took great pains to highlight. After going so much in the name of that ship, it would have seemed a more fitting end to go down with it.

I agree it would have been cool to have had him die alone. The scene with Enterprise should have been just that. The rest evacuating with his remaining at the helm. Possibly to keep the primary hull from falling out of control through the atmosphere while the escape crafts cleared the vessel.

I got the feeling that the then new crew were more interested in taking the story in their direction (for obvious reasons - it was their film!) so the chances of a mind blowing Kirk death enveloping their scenes would have been pretty remote.

The film shout have bee STTNG with no STOS cast. I think the mix just didn't work.

[Dante Bunny]

Air Bud Movies
Duncan Checks In
and Max Keeble's Big Move


Dang these movies bombed, in the bad way.:p

[joker]

Originally posted by Bluntman


Other films deserving of mention are: , Friday The 13: Jason Takes Manhattan.



hey i liked that movie, but more in a comical sense than it actually being good.

[Batman's bride]

A really bad movie that could have been done better is Kids.

[Dante Bunny]

A lame joke...


Pauley Shore Movies!!!


Worst....Movies....Ever!!:D lol

[Samhaine]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned this flick yet:

The Blair Witch Project

Man oh man was this a terrible movie. The only enjoyable part was when they talke about the map being thrown in to the creek. Only part I could stand in that flick.

Also, Cruel Intentions 2.

This flick was a direct to video prequel, and was absolutely horrible. It completely changed continuity, and it took lines directly from the first movie. Glad I didn't pay for it.

And to whomever mentioned Rushmore as a "Worst Movie Ever" - FOR SHAME. That movie was excellent. It was intellegent and funny. Sorry if I sound flamey, I'm not trying to be, but that has been recently put on my Top Movies list. I love Bill Murray.

[Fantasie117]

I agree with The Mummy Returns not being a good movie.

More worst-movies-ever:

Meet the Parents (I think that was supposed to be funny, but Greg messing up every little thing just got old real fast.)

Manos: The Hand of Fate (Yeah, I know it was on MST 3K for a reason...but this really needs to be mentioned. My friend's actually writing a story called "Torgo: The Knees of Fate.")

Titan AE (Big giant plotholes, and the 2D characters with 3D background was weird.)

Stars Wars: Episode 1: The Phantom Menace (Almost fell asleep during it. That doesn't happen often, if at all.)

Okay, those are all I could think of. I've seen some pretty bad movies in my school's "Evolution of Science-Fiction" club but I can't remember them.

[Calhoun07]

I rented the Phantom Menace DVD yesterday and am reminded of how bad that movie truly is. Now I remember the exact reason I hate it so much, besides Jar Jar...the ending is just an accident that just "happened" to our characters. Anakin "accidently" saves the day, and Jar Jar accidently saves the day as well! There was no master plan, no sense of purpose driving the characters into their actions, no rhyme or reason what so ever. The only scene that culminated with any kind of sense of reason and purpose was the final lightsaber battle.

And to think that from those awkward beginnings, Anakin rose to become Darth Vader and Jar Jar gets promoted to be general. I just can't get over how bad that movie was, and the ending was just a bad ending for a bad movie. Even if the pod race was "cool."

[Frozen]

I thought the pod-race was horrendous. Sure, it sounded good, looked real - but where was the excitement, the seat of the pants tension? You knoew exactly what was going to happen, and when it was going to happen - and the sad thing is, the whole film is warped and distorted just to shoe-horn the damn scene in in the first place!!!

[Bluntman]

I agree. The pod race, while cool looking, wasn't all that. Two things can greatly improve Episode II:

1. Jar Jar Binks dying in the first scene.

2. Mace Windu (Samuel L. Jackson) being a super bad ***** Jedi when forced to fight.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by calhoun07
...the ending is just an accident that just "happened" to our characters. Anakin "accidently" saves the day, and Jar Jar accidently saves the day as well! There was no master plan, no sense of purpose driving the characters into their actions, no rhyme or reason what so ever. The only scene that culminated with any kind of sense of reason and purpose was the final lightsaber battle.

Let's not go overboard. Being disappointed is no justification for making Phantom Menace out to be worse than it was. Anakin is child that possesses incredible ability when it comes to piloting, undoubtedly enhanced by his Force ability. That's what we saw in the space battle. It might have been accident that he ended up in space, but he did what he could once there and had an impact. He's just a kid, yet showed some poise up there. There's no reason to use that against the ending.

As for Jar Jar, yeah he's an idiot, but he wasn't fighting the entire battle. He had an effect on the small area surrounding him despite his ineptitude, but he hardly won the battle. His people suffered a lot of losses, but fought hard, and the battle was one by shutting down the control unit in space. So the efforts of those in space won the battle.

Neither of the two above scenes were bad to the extent you describe. There was a plan: to knock out the droid control unit in space, and for the Gungan army to engage the droids as diversion for the Queen's attack on the Trade Federation leadership. The plan worked. The "substance" of the ending, the aspects that carried the most weight, were the final lightsaber battle and the Queen-led attack on the Viceroy. Both were done well. And when combined with the impressive visuals of the droid battle and space battle, it makes for an impressive ending.

Other aspects of the movie were also done well, such as the scenes involving the Jedi Council, the Senate Chamber, the scenes with Sidious and Maul, the various Jedi battles throughout the movie, and the the pod race.

And in a basic sense, the movie featured the elements we would have expected from the story: discovery of Anakin's force potential, a look at a time in which the Jedi were flourishing, the beginning of Palpatine's rise to power, and the re-emergence of the Sith. In addition, it was fun to see R2, C3PO, Jabba, the meeting between Obi-Wan and Anakin, Obi-Wan in his prime, a younger Emperor, Yoda and council, etc.

Again, let's not make the movie out to be worse than it is. I think a lot of the criticisms have gone overboard.

[Calhoun07]

I only hope that they leave Yoda's lightsaber battle in episode two. He's supposed to take out some Maldorian warriors old Jedi school style! Sweet!

You know, back to the pod race...the deleted scenes do nothing to add to them. In fact, they are almost laughable.

[Joe Tully]

Great! One thing I really wanted from Ep. 1 was to see Yoda in battle. That should be really cool for Ep. 2. Is this rumored to be in the Ep. 2 script?

Ep. 1 wasn't the greatest movie ever, but I agree with Dark Angel, it was far from the worst. I don't think it will ever be considered on the same level as the first 3, but just because it was disappointing doesn't make it the worst movie. The people who say that it was the worst movie ever are just very disappointed Star Wars fans who are overreacting.

[Bluntman]

Okay, I'm not saying Episode I is the worst movie ever. However, when compared to what we've seen from the Star Wars movies of the past, it was a pretty crappy movie. I'm speaking form the old-school here. I've been exposed to Star Wars through my older brother at a young age. I'm 23 now, and George Lucas flat out dropped the ball with Episode I.

It's probably unfair to compare Episode I to the previous Star Wars films, but what do you expect? They've been around for years and everyone pretty much has seen them. They were phenomenal films. They were ground breaking, and revolutionary given the times in which they were made. They had everything: comedy, drama, romance, action, fantasy. No movies since have come close.

And that is why Episode I is on so many people's Worst Movie Ever lists. It didn't keep that tradition. All Star Wars fans, myself included, hope that Episode II can regain some of that aura. But with a subtitle like "Attack Of The Clones", prospects don't look too good.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by Bluntman
And that is why Episode I is on so many people's Worst Movie Ever lists. It didn't keep that tradition. All Star Wars fans, myself included, hope that Episode II can regain some of that aura. But with a subtitle like "Attack Of The Clones", prospects don't look too good.

I can understand that. But instead of saying it's one of the worst movies of all time, everyone should just say it was one of the most disappointing movies of all time. That seems more accurate.

Also, and I could be wrong, I think that expectations might still have played a part. Reaction to Episode II might say whether that's the case or not. I'm kind of expecting it to get good reviews, since everyone expectations will be lowered to normal levels.

As far as the title, I had the same reaction as everyone else. But upon thinking about it, isn't it kind of similar to the title "The Empire Strikes Back" or "Return of the Jedi." If you really think about it, "Attack of the Clones" is a title of the same nature. And that's kind of what I'm looking at when thinking that people are being unnecessarily harsh on TPM. We were all a lot younger when the original movies premiered, and so undoubtedly less critical when judging movies. Now we're older and analyzing TPM in a way we never did the original. That could very well be a reason for the reaction that everyone's had.

Episode II should answer a lot of questions, though. We'll see how it turns out.

[Calhoun07]

I was expecting Episode 1 to be slower paced, setting things up, not much happening, so in regards to alot of stuff in it, it was exactly what I expected. What really made me hate it so much in the end was, well...the end. As I said before, the ending triumph over evil came about as an accident both in space and on the planet. And that makes it the worst of all the Star Wars movies, because Star Wars is about the heroes having a purpose and a motivation to fight their enemies AND to triumph over them. Our heroes had a reason to fight, but their triumph was just sloppy and poorly exectuted.

[Calhoun07]

I think the Rise of Darth Vader was a better title, which I hear is what Lucas had originally used in his original scripts for episode two. But I don't care if the title evokes images of a 50s sci fi movie in our minds as long as the movie kicks some butt.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by calhoun07
I think the Rise of Darth Vader was a better title, which I hear is what Lucas had originally used in his original scripts for episode two. But I don't care if the title evokes images of a 50s sci fi movie in our minds as long as the movie kicks some butt.

I hear it's been called "Clone Wars" by fandom for years. Some think that he named it differently because everyone was expecting an Ep. 2 called Clone Wars, so he decided to name it something else on purpose, just to show 'em.

[Calhoun07]

Oh, yeah, maybe Rise of Darth Vader was supposed to be the title of Episode Three?

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by calhoun07
As I said before, the ending triumph over evil came about as an accident both in space and on the planet. And that makes it the worst of all the Star Wars movies, because Star Wars is about the heroes having a purpose and a motivation to fight their enemies AND to triumph over them. Our heroes had a reason to fight, but their triumph was just sloppy and poorly exectuted.

But I don't think that's a good way to look at it. First, if something is accomplised by accident or in unintentional fashion, that doesn't mean there was a lack of motivation or a lack of a plan. Everybody on the side of good in the TPM ending was fighting against the Federation and their actions. That can't be faulted.

Second, and more important, the forces involved in the space battle and the planet battle were inexperienced. As was brought up in earlier in the movie, the Naboo are a peaceful people and not one ready for conflict at the level seen in TPM. Gungans, likewise, didn't appear to have battle experience, as evidenced by their living underwater and away from the surface. Unlike the Rebel Alliance in the original trilogy, the groups we saw in TPM had not been in preparation for conflict in a war-type situation.

This wasn't a battle that waged on Coruscant or any major planet. It took place on a back world with limited forces. The planet Naboo, again, was just not ready for a conflict of this type. Any "sloppiness" would be realistic.

[RockItShipper]

Originally posted by joker



i cant say im a big fan of the cinderella movie, i hate mushy love stories (yes i know i sound like a 4 year old) but i disagree. lets admit, life aint peachy. i think movies like cinderella, or any other movie give people a chance to actually escape their reality, what ever it may be, sad, boring, over exposed, to be in a perfect world for 90 minutes give or take 20, and just forget about everything else. now if some one expects what they see to happen on the screen in their life, thats their problem.


Here's two things worth looking up. 1, Grimm's original Cinderella... The whole thing about women having to fit in a narrow little shoe is taken further, with both stepsisters mutilating their feet to fit in. One cuts off a toe, the other her heel.

Second, is "Cinderella's Prince" by Michael Dubson Sage. It's in this anthology called "Wilma Loves Betty"...

[Calhoun07]

The ending of Phantom Menace would be the equivalent of me hopping in any old plane that happens to be near by, accidently setting off the auto pilot, and going to Afghanastan and getting lucky enough to hit the target where Bin Laden is and killing him. All just by sheer luck. I don't think that would be at all realistic.

Of course, I guess one could argue that it was the "force" that guided Anakin, but if it was, it wasn't made evident in the movie.

[DR. BELCH]

It is actually true that women suffer more foot problems than men because of their shoes--blisters, bunions, bone fractures, etc. The physics behind high heels eludes me, and even more what drives women to wear them despite what I'm sure is intense pain and misery. The things some lasses do for beauty. Don't even get me started on shaving.... :rolleyes:

Then again, fairy tales aren't really for kids. Consider also the original "The Little Mermaid" (the girl lets the sea witch cut out her tongue; she has to stab the prince and let his blood run over her feet to get back her tail or risk dying and rotting to sea foam).

But to return to the topic: Star Wars is at heart what they call "space opera"--melodrama against a stage of stars. So it should be expected to be good vs. evil, a little weepy, a tad schmaltzy, someone dies, someone gets cuckholded, and someone gets pregnant. Not, admittedly, the sort of thing I'd write...leave it to the Ellisons, Lucases, and Speilbergs, who can do it much better....

[James Harvey]

While these movies aren't out yet, I can assure you Peter Pan 2 and Cinderella 2 will be at the bottom of the pile...

[Calhoun07]

Don't forget to mention Dumbo 2. That one will be so low in the pile, I will be scraping it off my shoe.

[Captain Caps]

I didn't like...

-"Meet The Parents" (If this is the ne plus ultra of humor in the Digitals, then I'm still stuck in the 80s. Didn't laugh at a thing...actually screamed in frustration at this movie)
-"Flubber" (Loser humor doesn't swing with me. Besides, Robin Williams is no Fred MacMurray)
-Okay, maybe not the worst, but I didn't like any of the "Star Wars" movies...PERIOD.

Sincerely,

John "Captain Caps" Kilduff

[sun]

I didn't know there was a Dumbo 2....calhoun are you pulling my leg so to speak? If that exists, Disney did another stupd thing....

[sun]

I liked the Phantom Menace...not because it was a great, or good movie...because it told us more of the story, on film. Sure it had tremendous faults...but genius, does not always repeat itself...I was very happy to see another ep, even though it didn't stand up completely...I am not a purest, I wanted to go, and have some fun, and it met my needs. Others, have said it was the "worst". I suspect that they expected so much more, that is the real reason that they said it was the worst... If they did another full length animated BATMAN, and it wasn't totally up to par, would everyone, say it was the worst animated movie ever made, nonsence. At least taht is my opinion..anyway...good luck to all --- stuart

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by oldtoonguy
I suspect that they expected so much more, that is the real reason that they said it was the worst...

That's what I think, too. But it's not only that. Like Bluntman said, it's inevitable that people compare it to the previous movies in the series. And in doing that, TPM comes across as less than it really is.

It's like the Godfather III. Just as a single movie, it's very, very good. Definitely no less than 3 stars. But in comparison to the first two, which just might be the two greatest films of all time, part III falls short. The result is that fans of the series regard GF III as terrible, a film that should never have been made.

In both cases, it's not entirely fair. But given that TPM and GFIII are part of a series, comparisons are going to made to the previous movies. And really, that's probably how it should be. But I do think that people need to remember that TPM is part of a larger story. In that sense, SW (in its entirety) is great movie-making. Same thing with the Godfather trilogy. Taken as a whole, it's among the greatest movie accomplishments of all time.

[Joe Tully]

Originally posted by oldtoonguy
I didn't know there was a Dumbo 2....calhoun are you pulling my leg so to speak? If that exists, Disney did another stupd thing....

Nope, that's no joke, I've heard about it too...I think it's still a while until it comes out though. It's been reported at cartoonresearch.com and other places too.

[sun]

As stated before, I think it is stupid...OF all the animated full length Disney pics, Dumbo is special in that it utilizes time and story to its fullest...Some good characterizations, but you have to love Dumbo and the story. Very well paced. To try to recaputure, or give us another "take" on that story, is like I said before, "The Wizard of Oz -2 where the wizard becomes Captain Kirk and takes Dorthy and Toto to meet the Klingons on the Amusement Park Planet, but the Wizard changes the park around and everyone falls for Klingon eating traditions...I do not think it will work....It shows where their heads are at, anything, yes anything to make a buck. Just like Kids WB.

[Kal-el]

Phantom Menace could be described in a number of ways. Disappointing, plotless, the worst movie ever, the best movie ever, etc... My $.02 worth is, of course, my opinion and in no way is meant to belittle an oposing opinion. I did not like the film. I was disappointed with most all aspects of the film. To me, there was no true sense of heroism, no recognizable plot characteristic that I could really follow or be interested in. I'm hoping EP II is more pleasing to me.
With Star Trek: Generations, I was also let down. Kirk should have died a more glorious death (sounds very Klingon of me, at the very least aboard the Enterprise-D.
I thought Meet the Parents was an entertaining and funny movie. I also thought the Matrix was an amazing movie with a very interesting premise. Of course, these are only my opinions............

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by Kal-el
With Star Trek: Generations, I was also let down. Kirk should have died a more glorious death (sounds very Klingon of me, at the very least aboard the Enterprise-D.

Everybody wants to see the hero go out in the most glorious way possible. But Kirk's death in "Generations" fit well with what we already knew: that Kirk expected to die alone. And he did. To me that's fitting.

[James]

As an experience in the cinema, I actually rather enjoyed Star Wars: TPM. I would say it is the worst of the four, but standing on it's own without comparison to it's older brothers it's not a bad film... certainly not as bad as Brazil.... ;)

It looks good, the locations are variable... yes it suffer from having absoulutely no characters you can have even the slightest interest in caring for (bar the Tusken Raiders at the pod race - they were excellent!) but it is aurally and visually rather stunning. Nice soundtrack, nice pictures, reasonable direction... fast paced sequences....

Star Wars Turkey? Yes! Worst film? Certainly not!

And not one Jar Jar Binks reference - aren't I good? :D

[Calhoun07]

Phantom Menace is the worst Star Wars movie. And I am willing to bet money it will be the worst one after all of them are out.

And the reason I didn't like it as much wasn't because of high expectations (cuz I really had none. I listened to zero hype. The only thing I did was read most of the novelization before I saw the movie). I didn't like it because of the crappy ending, and crappy endings will always ruin a good film for me. I hated the ending more than Jar Jar. They defeat the enemy BY ACCIDENT! It would be like me getting in a plane and getting lucky enough to have it take me on auto pilot to Afghanastan, where I accidently fire some weapons and take out Bin Laden. And if I wrote a story with an ending like that, it would be panned for sure. I guess Anakin was using the "force" but they didn't make that evident in the movie.

The best Phantom Menace is the novelization, with far better deleted scenes than the DVD has.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by calhoun07

And the reason I didn't like it as much wasn't because of high expectations (cuz I really had none. I listened to zero hype. The only thing I did was read most of the novelization before I saw the movie). I didn't like it because of the crappy ending, and crappy endings will always ruin a good film for me. I hated the ending more than Jar Jar. They defeat the enemy BY ACCIDENT! It would be like me getting in a plane and getting lucky enough to have it take me on auto pilot to Afghanastan, where I accidently fire some weapons and take out Bin Laden.


But Calhoun, as I said before, it's not as simple as that. The space battle was not the only aspect to the ending. In fact, it wasn't even the most important. Critical for the "good guys" was the Queen's people getting to the Trade Federation leadership, and there was no luck there. The only purpose to the space battle was to knock off the droids from the ground battle. And the only purpose for the ground battle was to divert the droids, which were the Trade Federation's only strength in their takeover of Naboo.

[Frozen]

Kal-el wrote:

With Star Trek: Generations, I was also let down. Kirk should have died a more glorious death (sounds very Klingon of me, at the very least aboard the Enterprise-D.


I personally thought Kirk's 'death' aboard the Enterprise D was very very fitting - he died alone, saving the Enterprise. I love the line in ST V where he says "I always knew I'd die alone.." If only they'd left it there, instead of shoe-horning him into the rest of the movie - and a travesty of a movie it is too. I can only bear rhe first part with tKirk et al on the Enterprise D, and then I turn the movie off, prefering to believe that was Kirk's death...

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by Frozen


I personally thought Kirk's 'death' aboard the Enterprise D was very very fitting - he died alone, saving the Enterprise. I love the line in ST V where he says "I always knew I'd die alone.." If only they'd left it there, instead of shoe-horning him into the rest of the movie - and a travesty of a movie it is too. I can only bear rhe first part with tKirk et al on the Enterprise D, and then I turn the movie off, prefering to believe that was Kirk's death...

True, but his actual death at the end of the movie was very much alone as well. In a literal sense, it was just him on that bridge, disabling the cloak, then tumbling to his death at the bottom of that long drop, away from the remaining struggle between Soran and Picard.

But more than that, Kirk died in a time that was not his own, away from those he called his friends, away from his Enterprise and Starfleet. He most certainly died alone.

[Frozen]

With that immortal line "Oh my..." - yeah , that's doing the guy justice... :rolleyes:

[sun]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by calhoun07
Phantom Menace is the worst Star Wars movie. And I am willing to bet money it will be the worst one after all of them are out.

And the reason I didn't like it as much wasn't because of high expectations (cuz I really had none. I listened to zero hype. The only thing I did was read most of the novelization before I saw the movie). I didn't like it because of the crappy ending, and crappy endings will always ruin a good film for me. I hated the ending more than Jar Jar. They defeat the enemy BY ACCIDENT! It would be like me getting in a plane and getting lucky enough to have it take me on auto pilot to Afghanastan, where I accidently fire some weapons and take out Bin Laden. And if I wrote a story with an ending like that, it would be panned for sure. I guess Anakin was using the "force" but they didn't make that evident in the movie.

The best Phantom Menace is the novelization, with far better deleted scenes than the DVD has. [/QUOTE While one could argue with the crappy ending, it is consistent with the ending of the first Star Wars Movie...When Luke takes out the Death Star in a space battle, it resembles, Anakan taking out the Space Station in a space battle. I believe that Lukas used similiar themes in 1 and 4...The ending, and the prade and celebration afterwards follow that too. I suspect that the next Star Wars, Clones, will have a much darker theme, then this one, because "The Empire's Revenge (?) or return, also is a much darker movie....I do not know of course, but Lucas may follow that pattern again...We will see. Good Luck to all - Stuart

[Calhoun07]

I recognized the ending as being in the Star Wars Formula. But it lacked motivation. Anakin just sank down in to that fighter to hide, not fight, and he acciedently turns it on, and its on auto pilot from that point on. No force guided him, no motivation to go and destroy the control center for the robotic army that was attacking Naboo. They had the Formula down great, but they lost the heart of Star Wars some where along the way, and that is to conquer evil. Good didn't win over evil in this movie, it just kinda accidently happened that way, not with any plot or plan.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by calhoun07
Good didn't win over evil in this movie, it just kinda accidently happened that way, not with any plot or plan.

First, let me point out that Anakin is a just boy. He's what, 9 years old? It's amazing what he did out there, the poise and control over his emotions that he showed in such dangerous circumstances. That's 100% more than should be expected of anyone his age

Let me also add that there was no accident in the Queen and her people regaining control from the Federation leadership. There was no accident in Obi-Wan's victory over Maul. Remember that the ending included a lot more than just the space battle and Anakin.

[Calhoun07]

Of course, I wasn't talking about the other aspects of the ending you pointed out!

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by calhoun07
Of course, I wasn't talking about the other aspects of the ending you pointed out!

Okay. It just seemed kind of harsh to call TPM the worst of the star wars movies because of the ending. I don't have a problem with the Anakin/space battle aspect because it makes sense. He's only 9 years old. And the other 3 threads of the ending were pretty darn good. So in totality, I would rank TPM's ending as one of the best of the SW movies thus far.

[Calhoun07]

I still think the movie is the weakest of all of them overall still, despite the cool lightsaber scene and a cool pod race scene.

[James]

Originally posted by DarkAngel


First, let me point out that Anakin is a just boy. He's what, 9 years old? It's amazing what he did out there, the poise and control over his emotions that he showed in such dangerous circumstances. That's 100% more than should be expected of anyone his age

Let me also add that there was no accident in the Queen and her people regaining control from the Federation leadership. There was no accident in Obi-Wan's victory over Maul. Remember that the ending included a lot more than just the space battle and Anakin.

Oh good lord, I totally disagree with you on that one DA. I thought the whole Space Battle scene and Anakin's lead up to it was entirely contrived and cringesome.

The 'oops, I've activated the engines, opps I've activated the autopilot, oh, that's lucky, there is a child sized space helmet in the cockpit,' lead up was beyond poor and totally insulting. Fine, his maneuver through the hanger bays displayed his natural skill, but it seemed a little simple to have the hanger bay connect to one of the most vital organs of the ship.

To me, this would have been a perfect place to display Anakin's impetuous nature and disobedience. Two aspects that were very much in Luke and were pointed out to be similar in Anakin.

Anakin should have taken the ship up to the battle of his own accord. He has the skill, and should have disobeyed the command to remain safe in the craft. It's only a small alteration, but it would have given the viewer reason for Yoda's fear in training the boy. Instead we get this contrived sequence in which Anakin takes no blame for his actions.

Finally, the battle between the droids and Jar Jar and Co. Awful. Why? Because there was not a single death. If you are to give victory meaning, and show the danger and the valor soldiers are to face, you have to show the negative side of battle. The Hoth attack and even the Ewok battle showed the viewer that victory is built on the backs of those who are unfortuate to have died. There was none of this in the Gungan battle. Only the comical and totally farcical lampooning of Jar Jar Binks.

These reasons are why I find the ending of the movie the biggest let down. There is simply no attempt at giving the film any maturity.

And that, is why it fails.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by SJJ

To me, this would have been a perfect place to display Anakin's impetuous nature and disobedience. Two aspects that were very much in Luke and were pointed out to be similar in Anakin.

Luke and Anakin were of two entirely different ages. SJJ, the boy is 9-years old. It would have been nice to see his impetuous nature, but it would make no sense for him to know exactly how to activate the fighter and to take it up. That's asking for too much. Anakin made a definite decision to attack the droids. In the process, he accidently starts the fighter moving. That's far more believable for a 9-year old than willingly, and knowingly, taking the fighter up.

To have Anakin come away a hero in the manner you described is far too unrealistic for someone his age. That would have strained all credibility and that would have ruined the ending.

You're right about the Gungan battle. I watched the ending again a couple days ago and noted that. That was an unfortunate choice on Lucas part. That battle still works better than the Ewok one, though, as we can see the Gungans to be in a position to fight this battle.

The problem is the manner in which Lucas portrays alien races. They come across like a group from Power Rangers. Instead of making them simple and unsophisticated in nature, they should be portrayed like the humans in the movie. That would have made the Trade Federation (and most other TPM aliens) believable in their roles. Given the lack of technology when making the original movies, we didn't have as much of an alien presence. But I fear the next movies will be like TPM, loaded with other-worldly creatures, all with poor portrayals as out of a children's movie.

[James]

Originally posted by DarkAngel


Luke and Anakin were of two entirely different ages. SJJ, the boy is 9-years old. It would have been nice to see his impetuous nature, but it would make no sense for him to know exactly how to activate the fighter and to take it up. That's asking for too much. Anakin made a definite decision to attack the droids. In the process, he accidently starts the fighter moving. That's far more believable for a 9-year old than willingly, and knowingly, taking the fighter up.


Fair point, perhaps it would have been a little too unrealistic to for Anakin to have launched the fighter, but he had an R2 unit which could have. My point being is that this seemed to be a key moment to introduce the darker element to Anakin. Afterall, just from a writing point of view, with Yoda mentioning a dark edge to the boy, it only makes sense to give the audience a slight hint into this insight. As it goes, it looks like Yoda is dribbling on about nothing in particular and thus the green puppet loses a little credibility.

As for winning the battle, my point that it was the right direction was a little muddled. I meant that Anakin's victory in space was the lesser evil to his accidental launch into battle. Personally, I'd have had him up there perhaps taking out a fighter or two without actually winning the whole thing. Not only does his victory in the film look a little too 'constructed', it makes Luke's victory in Star Wars IV look a little less impressive (ha, Anakin did something very similar to that Luke ages ago AND he was only 9!)..

Back on topic, still not the worst film - not by a mile. In fact another of my most hated films, just behind Brazil, is The Hunger with David Bowie. I HATE that! :)

[Calhoun07]

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on TPM. I don't wanna see a flame war start over this!

Since we are changing the topic, I do have to say that I hate the edited verions of Brazil the studio forced upon America because they wanted to shorten it and to make it happier. I didn't really love the movie until I saw the director's cut on the Criterion Collection. But I understand that there are those who still hate the movie after seeing the extended director's cut.

[joker]

i liked the phantom menace. on anikan all his wahoo lines and the one "oragne goo" one were kind of annoying. but rember he is little and when little kids getting excited or try to intemidate people they say dumb things. or at least i did when i was little.

as much as i hate to say it. army of darkness was pretty bad. i loved the first 2 but the 3rd one didnt cut it. it had a lot of dry humor and it left behind all the things that made the first 2 good. also they changed the ending from an ironic sad but good ending, to a chessy viewer freindly one.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by SJJ

My point being is that this seemed to be a key moment to introduce the darker element to Anakin. Afterall, just from a writing point of view, with Yoda mentioning a dark edge to the boy, it only makes sense to give the audience a slight hint into this insight. As it goes, it looks like Yoda is dribbling on about nothing in particular and thus the green puppet loses a little credibility.


Yeah, I see what you're saying. I'm kind of mixed on that. One on hand, you're right, we didn't see any kind of dark edge in Anakin. But then, Yoda's words referred to Anakin's future being cloudy. In that sense, it's how Anakin will turn out that's uncertain, not his present being.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by calhoun07
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on TPM. I don't wanna see a flame war start over this!

Yeah. I'm kind of glad that there is something to debate, though, in regard to TPM. As disappointing as certain elements were, there are many ways of looking at or interpreting certain scenes, so it doesn't come across as a total loss (at least to me).

[sun]

Originally posted by DarkAngel


Luke and Anakin were of two entirely different ages. SJJ, the boy is 9-years old. It would have been nice to see his impetuous nature, but it would make no sense for him to know exactly how to activate the fighter and to take it up. That's asking for too much. Anakin made a definite decision to attack the droids. In the process, he accidently starts the fighter moving. That's far more believable for a 9-year old than willingly, and knowingly, taking the fighter up.

To have Anakin come away a hero in the manner you described is far too unrealistic for someone his age. That would have strained all credibility and that would have ruined the ending.

You're right about the Gungan battle. I watched the ending again a couple days ago and noted that. That was an unfortunate choice on Lucas part. That battle still works better than the Ewok one, though, as we can see the Gungans to be in a position to fight this battle.

The problem is the manner in which Lucas portrays alien races. They come across like a group from Power Rangers. Instead of making them simple and unsophisticated in nature, they should be portrayed like the humans in the movie. That would have made the Trade Federation (and most other TPM aliens) believable in their roles. Given the lack of technology when making the original movies, we didn't have as much of an alien presence. But I fear the next movies will be like TPM, loaded with other-worldly creatures, all with poor portrayals as out of a children's movie. I would like to add one real interesting point about this film, few have mentioned it....Anakin is sitting in Jedi chambers, Yoda is talking to him, and Yoda says there is uncertainty in this one.....or words to that effect.....In the background of the Jedi Council Chambers, they are trying to decide whether to train him, before the battle, there are dark clouds, a storm is arising, you have to watch for it. it is there for a few seconds, Anakins dark side is introduced in an interesting way.....Stuart

[sun]

I think that the debate about the Phantom Menace is good. Most of it really is a toon, and we are talking about story formation, use of characters, believeability of characters, action, and realism......I think that the debate on worst films, and TPM in particular, is good for all, and to a certain extent, fun; as long as we do not lose respect for the others opinions....I know that this has been said before, but it can be said again...Stuart

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by oldtoonguy
In the background of the Jedi Council Chambers, they are trying to decide whether to train him, before the battle, there are dark clouds, a storm is arising, you have to watch for it. it is there for a few seconds, Anakins dark side is introduced in an interesting way.....Stuart

Never noticed that. I'll have to take another look at that scene.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by oldtoonguy
I think that the debate on worst films, and TPM in particular, is good for all, and to a certain extent, fun

I still don't see TPM as belonging on a worst films list, though. I don't mean to restart any heavy debate or anything. Just my reaction after the discussion we've had thus far.

[James]

Originally posted by DarkAngel


I still don't see TPM as belonging on a worst films list, though. I don't mean to restart any heavy debate or anything. Just my reaction after the discussion we've had thus far.

Yeah, I agreee. It's not the worst film, but it has been fun discussing it. Any other debatable choices?

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by SJJ


Yeah, I agreee. It's not the worst film, but it has been fun discussing it. Any other debatable choices?

Do you think Superman III or IV would belong on such a list? I've been pretty harsh on III in the past, but I saw it on tv recently and it didn't seem quite as bad as I'd remembered. Not that's it's great or anything, but maybe it's not bad enough to be on a worst list.

[Shriek]

I thought the last Superman. Quest For Peace was really lame. I didn't like the idea of Lex cloning Superman into that Ultra Man thing. It was just a horrible idea to make money.

[Calhoun07]

I've got one that I know people disagree on: Freddy Got Fingered? Worst movie ever or misunderstood genius?

[James]

Originally posted by DarkAngel


Do you think Superman III or IV would belong on such a list? I've been pretty harsh on III in the past, but I saw it on tv recently and it didn't seem quite as bad as I'd remembered. Not that's it's great or anything, but maybe it's not bad enough to be on a worst list.

Hmm, Superman III, or as it should have been named, The Richard Pryor Show, has it's good moments although as composition it's rather smelly. It doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. In fact, it feels a little as if the writers were a little uncomfortable trying to write a serious comic strip concept and lent towards the easy comedy angle a la Batman 1960.

That said, the is the fantastic battle between Clark and Superman in the wreckers yard, the brilliantly directed opening sequence and Robert Vaughn who is always good for a movie.

Frankly, I haven't the heart to dump this into the worst movie catagory. Superman IV however.....

Not even Gene Hackman could save this. Even an appearence from Bill Murray would have made it a struggle to pull this out of worst film catagory. This is baaad. The only redeeming scene is Clark's struggle with Lois regarding his secret which is then brushed over. The hair, the sun, the moon, the perm.... yuk. Shame Chris Reeves time as Superman had to end with such a turkey. Bad boy.

Blame green issues. This was what prompted the film (and a part of the film Mr Reeves backed whole heartedly if I recall. Proof that you need a good story and plot before you start trying to juggle topical events as well!)

[Kal-el]

Superman III did have it's moments. The fight between Clark and not-so-good Supes was very well done. Superman IV was not very good all around. As much as it hurts me to say it, S4:TQFP was bad. It was full of stock flying footage and a goofy storyline. The fight scene on the moon was interesting, but could have been much better. I certainly hope another Superman movie (that is well done, well thought out, and well casted)comes soon. IV left a bad taste in my mouth...

[mbaker]

Here's my worst movie list.

North
Deep Rising
Striking Distance
Armageddon
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
Superman 3
Supergirl
Superman 4
The Sixth Man
Empire Records
Cyborg
Kazaam
Leonard Part 6
Phat Beach
Inspector Gadget
(American) Godzilla
Charlie's Angels
Street Fighter
Masters Of The Universe
Swamp Thing 1 & 2
The Wishmaster movies
Barb Wire
The Punisher
Rocky 5
Dungeons & Dragons
B.A.P.S.
The Punisher
Captian America
The Fast And The Furious
The Crow-City Of Angels
Mission Impossible 1 & 2
Jaws 3D
Jaws The Revenge
Chairman Of The Board
See Spot Run
America's Sweethearts
Eight Legged Freaks
The Indian in the Cupboard
Maid In America
Max Keebler's Big Move
101 Dalmations (Live Action)
102 Dalmations
Snow Dogs
Fight Club
Scooby-Doo
Jury Duty
Meet The Parents
Seven Years In Tiebet
Goldmember
Meet Wally Sparks
Nothing But Trouble
The Never Ending Story movies
The Air Bud Movies

[cross blues]

Originally posted by Singin' Stray Cat
While we're talking about bad movies (again), how many people here liked the Final Fantasy movie? Great animation, but most of the storyline kinda confused me...especially at the end...what the heck happened at the end? Also, was the movie based on the video games at all? Never played the games before... hmm...maybe that's why the movie didn't make much sense to me...

the plot isn't THAT complicated. it's not one of my favorites or anything but I still can't understand why it bombed the way it did. I guess cause of what redDragon said: nothing to do with the games.

as for the worst movie: I have to go with Dungeons and Dragons, Star Wars ep. 1 & 2... I couldn't finish watching any of them. also any jennifer lopez movie made in the last 5 years, especially Enough and Maid in Manhattan (I think that's the title)

[Enrique]

i'm not a mainstream guy by any means (ask dick j grayson)... so off the top of my head...

- any kubrick movie... boring, long, and boring. the shining wasn't scary at all, and clockwork orange is just unintelligable.

- the matrix... maybe it was just a bad script... i knew everything that was gonna happen about 5 minutes before it did. the only redeeming part was the rage against the machine song at the end.

- tarantino movies... during high school i thought they were great, awesome... then i went to film school...

[Lonestarr]

A little controversial, bumping a thread that's over a year old. Anyway, as long as it's here:

My choices for the 10 worst movies ever:

10. Blank Check - a poor excuse for a family film, with a pretty good cast (including Miguel Ferrer, Rick Ducommun, Michael Lerner and James Rebhorn) really slumming

9. Overnight Delivery - yet another "boy tries to keep the love of a woman without realizing that true love is under his nose" movie, and one of the more abrasive ones

8. King Cobra - a ridiculous direct-to-video thriller about a giant snake loose in a small town

7. Never Been Kissed - a stupid star vehicle for Drew Barrymore filled with caricatures instead of characters

6. Loser - a very weak youth romantic comedy that is neither romantic or funny

5. 40 Days and 40 Nights - this film was perfectly bearable until the last 10-15 minutes ruined everything, and now I hate the whole thing (check some of the comments at the IMDB to learn why)

4. Valentine - a huge insult to an excellent thriller book; I could (and should) do so much better

3. Scary Movie 2 - except for a few really funny gags and Marlon Wayans, this was a sorry, disgusting, dated and generally worthless "comedy"

2. Jingle All the Way - perhaps the worst holiday movie ever...and this includes holiday movies that have yet to be released

1. Welcome to the Dollhouse - for those days when thumb screws and bamboo shoots just won't do

Also, I'm seeing some fine films on this list:

Return of the Killer Tomatoes
Deep Blue Sea (it grows on you)
Batman Forever (flawed, but way preferable to "Batman and Robin")
Max Keeble's Big Move
Titan A.E.
Inspector Gadget
Nothing But Trouble (only the parts with Dan Aykroyd as the J.P.)

[Behonkiss]

I gotta go with Dungeons and Dragons. That was a bad, bad, bad, bad, BAD movie.

"SNAILS! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

After having been subjected to Glitter, all I can say is "Who the hell thought THIS was a BRIGHT idea?!"

As for other insanely crappy movies:

Mitchell - You KNOW it's bad when even the MST3K quips aren't enough to make you watch the entire thing.

Prom Night - The epitome of the over-done teenage slasher flick. So insanely bad that the sequels were actually BETTER than the original.

And Never Let Her Go - TV movie based on a book about the Anne Marie Fahey case a couple of years back. The movie got SO many things wrong that it just hurts. The only halfway decent part was the VERY end.

Overdrawn At the Memory Bank - Raul Julia was a fantastic actor, really, but let's face it, this movie sucked. Even the most half-assed school production of Casablanca would be better watching than this.

Possession: Till Death Do You Part - Saw this with a bunch of buddies at a horror movie-fest. OW. I can see now why most critics considered giving it even one star as generous.

[James]

Actually, the worse I've seen of late is Starquest II - a pitful movie from the man who brought you that dubious fav, Battle Beyond The Stars, Mr R Corman, (and including all his same SFX footage - rehashed once more) it stars the unknown Adam Baldwin and Robert England.

Appalling acting, dreadful attempts at trying to engage your interest with soft porn scenes, devastingly bad sfx and a laughable story.

Avoid, please avoid!!

[Toon Capone]

Leonard Part 6
Phat Beach
Kazaam
Blankman
Weekend At Bernie's
In The Army Now
Jury Duty
Valentine
Scary Movie 2
Meet The Parents
The Fast And The Furious
The Crow-City Of Angels
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3
Captain America
Batman & Robin
Superman 3 & 4
Friday The 13th 8
Creepshow 2 (The only good thing was the last episode about the dead hitchhicker)
Virtuosity
Fallen
Charlie's Angels
Big Bully
Masters Of The Universe
Deadly Friend
Swamp Thing
The Stupids
All Of the Wishmaster movies
The Big Hit
Woo
B.A.P.S.
Barb Wire
The Punisher
Rocky 5
Jason Goes To Hell-The Final Friday
Idle Hands
Jeepers Creepers
Bachelor Party
Dungeons & Dragons
Stephen King's It
Street Fighter
Species 1 & 2
Child's Play 2 & 3
The Bride Of Chucky
Scream 3
I Know What You Did Last Summer 1 & 2
Mortal Kombat-Annihilation
I Got The Hook-Up!
Hellraiser-Bloodline
Halloween 5, 6, 7 and 8

[Joker85]

Movies that I felt I had wasted a valuable(and lost) 2 hours of my life on are:
Monster's Ball(absolutely the worst movie I've ever seen!!)
Eye of the Beholder
Jack Frost(the one with Michael Keaton..ugh)
City of Angels(actually..add any movie with Meg Ryan)

[zimbach]

If you want to read about some of the truly worst films ever made, check this link:
http://www.thewavemag.com/pagegen.php?pagename=archive
then read Seanbaby's video reviews in most issues. Discover the wild world of Turkish cinema!

[Ordinary Guy]

Eye of the Beholder
Any Friday the 13th movie
Nightmare On Elm Street 5 & 7
Bad Company
Sum Of All Fears
Street Fighter
Tomb Raider
Planet Of the Apes (Tim Burton remake)
Scary Movie 1 & 2
Batman And Robin
Superman 4
Dungeons and Dragons
Jurassic Park 3
Charlie's Angels
Any Shaquille O'Neal movie except Blue Chips
Valentine
Ready To Rumble
Species 2
Child's Play 2,3,4
Scream 3
Senseless
Jaws 3 & 4
Captain America
The Punisher
Robocop 3
End of Days
Fight Club
5th Element
Bourne Identidy
Judge Dredd
The Animal
Last Action Hero
Godzilla (Matthew Brodrick remake)

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Originally posted by SJJ
Actually, the worse I've seen of late is Starquest II - a pitful movie from the man who brought you that dubious fav, Battle Beyond The Stars, Mr R Corman, (and including all his same SFX footage - rehashed once more) it stars the unknown Adam Baldwin and Robert England.


::sweatdrop:: Actually, just about every movie he did that wasn't based off Edgar Allan Poe stories really sucked....Why did people keep giving Corman work, huh?

[Lonestarr]

Originally posted by Mackenzie Rainelle
::sweatdrop:: Actually, just about every movie he did that wasn't based off Edgar Allan Poe stories really sucked....Why did people keep giving Corman work, huh?

'Cause he could turn films out cheap and nearly all of them (consider that his name, as director and producer, showed up on hundreds of films) made a profit. What's more, his production companies were the starting ground for several well-known actors and directors. Do any of these names ring a bell?

Joe Dante
Jonathan Demme
Bruce Dern
Francis Ford Coppola
Jack Nicholson

While I grant you not every Corman film was a masterpiece, you can't help but admire his skill.

[Daniel P]

Worst movie ever made? That's a tough question. I think I'll nominate "What Planet Are You From?" (2000).

[Mike Spartz]

For me the worst movie ever has to be... JACKASS THE MOVIE!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[SilverKnight]

Originally posted by BourgeoisBuffoon
The worst movie I ever saw was in driver's ed. class-it was a safety video featuring the Crash-Test Dummies. TRULY sappy, mostly propeganda anyone knew, and they even had a RAP SONG during the credits! My gosh, it was scary...:eek: >jaw drops< Holy crap, I know that movie. The same one was shown to me. >twitches< Damn, what an awful movie. Me and this girl sitting next to me made fun of it the whole time, though.

Wow, I didn't know the thread was this old. Well, my worst movies ever, eh?

Scary Movie 2: It's the only movie I've ever walked out of the theater on.
Freddy Got Fingered: I watched ten minutes of it, and I've been scarred for life. I hate Tom Green and all he associates himself with, and now I remember why.
Batman and Robin: I've never watched more than two minutes of this movie, and I consider myself a better person for it. 'Nuff said.
Dungeons & Dragons: WTF. People paid to watch this movie?
Jurassic Park III: Not so much bad as "been there, done that". What's worse is that my nephew loved that movie, so I had to watch it, over and over again. >sigh< Thank god I'm not his parent. :D

[mbaker]

Originally posted by Lonestarr
'Cause he could turn films out cheap and nearly all of them (consider that his name, as director and producer, showed up on hundreds of films) made a profit. What's more, his production companies were the starting ground for several well-known actors and directors. Do any of these names ring a bell?

Joe Dante
Jonathan Demme
Bruce Dern
Francis Ford Coppola
Jack Nicholson

While I grant you not every Corman film was a masterpiece, you can't help but admire his skill.

Ron Howard, and James Cameron also worked under Roger Coreman's guidence before they hit it big as mainstream directors.

[Feslmogh]

I worked in a movie theater for some ten years (1989-1999) and I can tell you some sucky movies...
Note: some of these are older movies...

American Beauty
Titanic
TMNT II
Xanadu
Run with the Devil
Harry Potter
Showgirls
Furngully
Baby Genius
Look Who's Talkng Sequals
That non-Disney Snow White
Pokemon
Heavy Metal (original and 2000)


and the list goes on...

[John6777]

Freddy Got Fingered had to be the worst movie ever made.

[Ajax]

Worst movie ever? Theres quite a few but I'm name the most recent crappy movie I saw. Ballistic with Lucy Lui and Antonio Banders. That was a horrible movie.

[Meow]

Oh. this is an easy one. The Truth About Charlie, without a doubt, is the worst movie I've ever seen. The plot was stupid, but the worst thing about it was the camera angles. It was hard for me to even pay attention to what was going on in the movie because the camera never seemed to stop moving....and the lighting...man..that movie looked like it was made by little kids. The director should be ashamed. Surely anyone who's seen this movie will know what I'm talking about.

All the dramatic scenes just made me laugh because of the way it was filmed. I don't even care if the movie had had a better plot because of a different writer. With a director like that, this movie was destined to be awful. There's no way it could have been good.

[Chris Wood]

A lot of people seem to be missing the point of this thread. It's supposed to be the worst movie ever right? But I see stuff here like American Beauty and Crouching Tiger. Even if you didn't like those movies, surely you can admit that they had their good points, and are overall professionally done.

The worst movie ever should have no redeeming factors whatsoever, and be woefully unprofessional. Most likely a B-movie.

I will nominate Steel Dawn as I happened to catch part of it on Sci Fi the other week. Crap production, anemic acting, no story, and completely boring. Only a Patrick Swayze fanatic could find something positive to say about it.

[Marc]

Dracula: Dead and Loving It - I actually couldn't finish watching this movie.
Clerks - Garbage, start to finish. Kevin Smith should be banished from Hollywood and the comic book industry.
Track 29 - Gary Oldman's my favorite actor, but this was just painful to watch. A dreadful movie.

- Cap

[Ramen Noodles]

Scropian King. It was defently b-rated. No offence to anyone who loves this movie, but i was at my friends house and fell alsleep durning the mummy returns. I don' know, maybe its just because I didn't see the first one and was completly lost(or that is was really tired...) :rolleyes:

[Watermelon]

Hey Arnold!-The Move

How bad I hate this movie can not be explained in words. Bad plot, start to finish. I remember getting an issue of Nickelodeon Magazine, and turned t the "Coming soon to Nick" page. It said there was going to be a Hey Arnold! TV movie, called, yep you guessed it, Arnold saves the neighboorhood. :rolleyes:

Another bad one would be The Wild Thornberrys Moivie. If they took out the wedgie dance and the old lady and kept Eliza with her powers and deleted some of the disgusting parts and didn't play Baha Men's "Accident" in random parts of the film, it might have been a LITTLE bit better. The writters still suck, though. ;)

[Daniel P]

Originally posted by 0
Another bad one would be The Wild Thornberrys Moivie. If they took out the wedgie dance and the old lady and kept Eliza with her powers and deleted some of the disgusting parts and didn't play Baha Men's "Accident" in random parts of the film, it might have been a LITTLE bit better. The writters still suck, though. ;) That movie was full of toilet humor. It really ruined the movie.

[SilverKnight]

Well, then, I'll amend my list. B&R still is on there, but that's a given.

Really, the only one that stays is Freddy Got Fingered. It was the most sickening, disgusting movie I've ever seen. I don't know if you have to be a hardcore pervert to understand it or what, but his attempts at "humor" are disgusting, and to me, very disturbing. I didn't necessarily "watch" it, but I'd listened to it from the other room for about an hour, and...ugh, it's just bad. Bad, bad, bad.

[James]

Originally posted by SilverKnight
Well, then, I'll amend my list. B&R still is on there, but that's a given.

Really, the only one that stays is Freddy Got Fingered. It was the most sickening, disgusting movie I've ever seen. I don't know if you have to be a hardcore pervert to understand it or what, but his attempts at "humor" are disgusting, and to me, very disturbing. I didn't necessarily "watch" it, but I'd listened to it from the other room for about an hour, and...ugh, it's just bad. Bad, bad, bad.

See you're selling it to me, lol. Not for it's content, but just to see what's so offensive..! *curiously pokes his naive nose into the DVD case*

[slackermonkey]

How has no one mentioned Howard The Duck???

[Patrick Bateman]

Captain America. Man, that movie SUCKED.

[Defector]

Baby Geniuses and Harry Potter

[mbaker]

Originally posted by El Goober
How has no one mentioned Howard The Duck???

I actually liked Howard The Duck. (Yeah, I know.) It prabably would've helped if the movie had some of the satire that made the comic so unique.

[G. Wen]

Jack Ass the Movie- Let's make a movie w/ no plot and get a bunch of untalented people doing stupid things so they can have their 15 min. of fame!
Titanic- There was a lot of money put into the production of this movie, but very little characterization and development put into the plot. Most of the characters were 1 dimensional, and Rose and Jack just magically fall for each other.

[SilverKnight]

Originally posted by SJJ
See you're selling it to me, lol. Not for it's content, but just to see what's so offensive..! *curiously pokes his naive nose into the DVD case* >shrugs< Go ahead, if you want to waste fourty bucks and an hour and a half of your life. You'll probably want to burn it after you're done. If that's the case, do it; you'll be doing humanity a favor. :)

[Ordinary Guy]

I forgot Mission To Mars. Man that movie was horrible, the music was dreadfull.

[Arkangel]

Gone in 60 Seconds (one of the worst screenplays ever)
Independence Day
Charlie's Angels
The Phantom Menace
Godzilla (by the same jackasses who made Independence Day)
Planet of the Apes (Burton's remake)
Jurassic Park II and III
Tomb Raider
Fast and the Furious (apparantly car chase movies don't need good scripts)
Air Force One
Starship Troopers (ok action, but the film's theme was repulsive)
Gladiator (overrated, overrated, overrated)
Titanic (ditto)

The sad thing is that not only did all of these films make money, they all made boatloads of money. Just goes to show that Hollywood isn't interested in making good movies, just profitable ones (and since the audiences just keep eating up the crap why shouldn't they).

[Mackenzie Rainelle]

Originally posted by Arkangel

Independence Day


I remember this one....Me an' some friends used it to play Mystery Science Theater with. :D

[RoboHobo]

I already said that Jack Frost 2 is the worst movie ever! It's about a snowman that goes to Hawaii and gets killed by bananas!

[Pilmedium]

I mention all of the WB character "clip movies" from the 1970s/1980s/whenever they were from. Parts of good cartoon shorts were thrown into lame storylines with poor linking segments.

[FavreFactor]

Probably any of the Batman ones. I didn't see any of them and I'm glad I didn't!!! :D

[mbaker]

Originally posted by Pilmedium
I mention all of the WB character "clip movies" from the 1970s/1980s/whenever they were from. Parts of good cartoon shorts were thrown into lame storylines with poor linking segments.
Well "The Bugs Bunny/Roadrunner Movie" wasn't too bad. It worked mostly because it was A documentry (or "mocumentery", if you will) on Chuck Jones, and some of his best moments. The following movies weren't so good. Mostly because the splicing of old cartoons with new footage to make up A new plot wasn't very seemless. Plus, you could tell that Mel Blanc's voice was getter deeper as he got older. So that didn't help with the editing process. (It would've been better if they just made an all original movie instead.)

[DisneyBoy]

Triple XXX.


What a waste of my time.

Worst movie ever? Hardly.

But still...it earned a mention.

Undercover Brother...oh, sorry ...BrothA was pretty lame too.

Doesn't warrant the "worst movie" label though.

Hmmmm....

[unknown hero]

Jaws 3- an example of how far top execs are wiiling to go to cash in a couple of more bucks, if they got any

[EightOh]

There are so many I could bring up, I don't even know where to start...


Originally posted by Ordinary Guy
I forgot Mission To Mars. Man that movie was horrible, the music was dreadfull. Ah, that'll do for a starting point. Ugggggghhhhhh. What a pointless, ridiculous, horrible waste of time. I think Don Cheadle rocks, on the whole, but man, what a pathetic movie.

Jurassic Park 3 was also an utter waste of time.

Scary Movie AND Scary Movie 2 were just completely boring and unfunny, IMHO. Mind you, I actually LIKED "The Wayans Brothers," but these two movies were BAD.

Eyes Wide Shut. What. The. Hell. Man? If Kubrick hadn't already been dead, I would've killed him after I watched this. I didn't expect much in the first place, but it was just so incredibly bad I felt like stabbing myself in the eyes with a fork.

I could go on, but... nah.

[Toon Capone]

More bad movies

The Adventures Of Ford Fairlane
Cool World
The Wedding Singer
Deuce Bigalow-Male Gigolo
Spawn
Bulletprooof
The Rage-Carrie 2
Urban Legend-Final Cut
Modern Vampires
Belly
Critters 3 & 4
Poltergeist 3
Little Monsters
Howard The Duck
Black Sheep
Neon Maniacs
Booty Call
Dangerous Ground
It's Pat
The Ladies Man
Kull The Conquerer
Problem Child 1 & 2
Wild Wild West
Maximum Overdrive
The Blair Witch Project
Nutty Professor 2-The Klumps
Surbuban Commando
Body Slam
Police Academy 6-City Under Siege
Freddy's Dead-The Final Nightmare
Ace Ventura-When Nature Calls
John Carpenter's Vampires
Sgt. Bilko
Double Dragon
The Super Mario Bros.
Pleasantville
Hobgoblins
Bulworth
Ringmaster
Sprung
Vegas Vacation
The 6th Man
The Meteor Man
Revenge Of The Nerds 3 & 4
Rushmore

[DJ Raza]

Well, some of the worst movies I've seen are (these are just my opinion too)...

Howard the Duck
Bridges of Madison County
Chain Reaction
Spiderman
The Rookie
The Postman
America's Sweethearts
Stepmom
Pretty Woman
X-Men
Jurassic Park III
Mrs. Doubtfire
Top Gun
Risky Business
Cheech & Chong: The Corsican Brothers
Galaxy Quest
A Beautiful Mind
Bully
40 Days and 40 Nights
Encino Man
The Wedding Planner

I could just go on for days, but this should be enough for the moment...


{Maximum Overdrive}

Heh, I liked that movie. I guess you just had to get into it or something...

[James]

Originally posted by DJ Raza
Well, some of the worst movies I've seen are (these are just my opinion too)...

Howard the Duck
Bridges of Madison County
Chain Reaction
Spiderman
The Rookie
The Postman
America's Sweethearts
Stepmom
Pretty Woman
X-Men
Jurassic Park III
Mrs. Doubtfire
Top Gun
Risky Business
Cheech & Chong: The Corsican Brothers
Galaxy Quest
A Beautiful Mind
Bully
40 Days and 40 Nights
Encino Man
The Wedding Planner

I could just go on for days, but this should be enough for the moment..
Heh, I liked that movie. I guess you just had to get into it or something...

Ouch, some surprising choices - I admit Galaxy Quest does get tiresome, but it's not abad movie surely? It's a reasonable send up with a good cast? Spidey is an odd one too - and X-Men, too rather solid movies which bit you bad. As you say, your opinion, but some unusual choices there!

[DJ Raza]

{As you say, your opinion, but some unusual choices there!}

Yeah, I know... but I just don't find those movies entertaining in the least. I know a lot of people liked movies like Spiderman and X-Men, but I didn't. I was just bored during them, the whole time... then again, people usually say my favorite movies bore them too. So I guess it all comes down to a matter of opinion.

[Shnay]

Have we all forgotten The Godfather III?! Talk about your terrible movies...remember the Simpsons episode with Mel Gibson?

Movie Exec.: "This movie is worse than Godfather III!"
Mel Gibson: "Whoa, whoa. Let's not say anything we don't mean."
Movie Exec.: "You're right. I got a little carried away..."

This is definitely a big contender for worst movie ever.

[mbaker]

Originally posted by Shnay
Have we all forgotten The Godfather III?! Talk about your terrible movies...remember the Simpsons episode with Mel Gibson?

Movie Exec.: "This movie is worse than Godfather III!"
Mel Gibson: "Whoa, whoa. Let's not say anything we don't mean."
Movie Exec.: "You're right. I got a little carried away..."

This is definitely a big contender for worst movie ever.
That episode was great. I like what Mel Gibson said about how the internet, and the return of "jump & jive" music killed the violent movie gerne. You know A movie is really bad when you see A shifty eyed dog. :rolleyes:

[Terminatah]

Originally posted by SJJ
Ouch, some surprising choices - I admit Galaxy Quest does get tiresome, but it's not abad movie surely? It's a reasonable send up with a good cast? Spidey is an odd one too - and X-Men, too rather solid movies which bit you bad. As you say, your opinion, but some unusual choices there! X-Men wasn't that solid. A majority of the people who liked it were people who were already fans of the X-Men, and sometimes not even them. The special effects were fine, but special effects always are. The plot dragged and the dialogue reeked. Unlike Spider-Man, which worked for a lot more people, on account of the good script.

-Terminatah

[mbaker]

"Bowling For Columbine" The worst piece of "anit-american" liberal propaganda ever produced. And Michael Moore has the nerve to say that 9/11 was all our fault?! :mad: :mad: :mad: If he were on the plane with those passengers, he would think otherwise, but I doubt it. :rolleyes:

[James]

Originally posted by Terminatah
X-Men wasn't that solid. A majority of the people who liked it were people who were already fans of the X-Men, and sometimes not even them. The special effects were fine, but special effects always are. The plot dragged and the dialogue reeked. Unlike Spider-Man, which worked for a lot more people, on account of the good script.

-Terminatah

Obviously that comes down to opinion. I wasn't that bothered by effects - never am, I thought the pacing was fine and the dialogue pretty okay (not astounding I grant you). Taken from it's source I think it was a good film, fair at worst - certainly not one deserving a Worst Movie Award!

[JohnCrichton]

Eyes Wide Shut - Insanely pointless.