Oscar Talkback: Animated Movies [Archive]

RZetlin

03-23-2003, 07:27 PM

In a few hours the Oscars will take place.

This is the place to talk about your thoughts on the events and the award for best animated movie.

Can the mod make this topic stick so that there won't be duplicate postings.

livingfruitvirus

03-23-2003, 07:57 PM

what about best animated short?

Mek

03-23-2003, 08:12 PM

Why do I get the feeling something bad is gonna come out of this? :(

Killtacular

03-23-2003, 08:27 PM

The current rumor going around is that Spirit won the Oscar. Not Spirited Away, I'm talking about the ****** HORSE MOVIE that didn't even TRY to be a good film.

Parallax

03-23-2003, 08:41 PM

The current rumor going around is that Spirit won the Oscar. Not Spirited Away, I'm talking about the ****** HORSE MOVIE that didn't even TRY to be a good film.

I wouldn't be suprised. The Oscar comittie wouldn't hardly know a good movie if it kicked them in the shins and broke there neck.

Mek

03-23-2003, 08:48 PM

I wouldn't be suprised. The Oscar comittie wouldn't hardly know a good movie if it kicked them in the shins and broke there neck.

Yeah, I agree. And if the rumor is true, then Spirited Away and Lilo and Stitch have been hosed. :(

*grumble*Jonah should have gotten nominated instead of 'Spirit'*grumble*

I'm not watching the Oscars, but a friend of mine said Spirited Away won. Is it true? O_O

Evil Dr. Reef

03-23-2003, 08:49 PM

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Animation Otaku

03-23-2003, 08:52 PM

Thank god the critics realized Spirited Away is one of the best movies ever!

Behonkiss

03-23-2003, 08:53 PM

The world is ending. It is ENDING.

People, try and realize the significance of SA winning when the odds were totally against it. This is amazing.

jrh31584

03-23-2003, 08:53 PM

And there was much rejoicing...

RZetlin

03-23-2003, 08:59 PM

The animated movies was first and YES!

YEEEES! Yahoo! Hooray! YES! OH YEAH BABY! THERE IS A GOD!

HIYAHOO! I SOOO HAPPY! HALLEUJAH! :)

ANIME FANS REJOICE!!

SPIRITED AWAY WON!

But there was no speech? :confused:

RZetlin

03-23-2003, 09:09 PM

Okay Disney, Spirited Away won the Oscars, I better see a wide film release for this movie!

Mek

03-23-2003, 09:12 PM

Okay Disney, Spirited Away won the Oscars, I better see a wide film release for this movie!

I agree!

Thank you God! :D This is too awesome! :)

Parallax

03-23-2003, 09:13 PM

Well considering the DVD is asupposed to come out soon I doubt it will.

Oh, and YES!

Behonkiss

03-23-2003, 09:16 PM

Actually, it was reported that Disney would consider a wider release if it won the Oscar.

Karl Olson

03-23-2003, 09:20 PM

But there was no speech? :confused:

not even the people involved with the film though that it was going to win, so they didn't come to the awards.

I'm definetely glad SA took it. It's still not what I'd consider to be the best animated film of the year (the Bebop movie would have been my pick, though I'm not sure whether it was technically up for consideration to be nominated), but it was still excellent and unique among the nominees (Admittedly, Lilo and Stitch was very good too, and I wouldn't have minded seeing it win). Congratualations to Studio Ghibli and Hayao Miyazaki.

Leaping Larry Jojo

03-23-2003, 10:11 PM

Nice try. Cute, though.

The real reason nobody attended was because of the war. Toshio Suzuki was supposed to come, at the very least, but cancelled anyway.

RZetlin

03-23-2003, 10:38 PM

In the larger picture, anime has officially received creditability and respectability in the American film industry.

I can safely say this medium has secured its future in America.

The Clown Prince

03-23-2003, 10:39 PM

Very cool. Very, very cool. We'll see if Disney holds off now on Spirited Away's DVD release of April 15th for a wider theatrical release.

I was fortunate enough to see it in a theater, so I hope they don't hold off the DVD release because I REALLY want it on DVD. But from a financial standpoint, Disney might profit even more if they hold off. I guess we'll see in the coming days if Disney does this.

The Clown Prince

Dee

03-23-2003, 11:03 PM

lostrune

03-23-2003, 11:42 PM

In the larger picture, anime has officially received creditability and respectability in the American film industry.

I can safely say this medium has secured its future in America.
That's overly optimistic.
Everybody says something like that whenever a headliner happens: Princess Mononoke, Pokemon, Cowboy Bebop, Golden Bear Award, etc.
But rather, it's baby steps, slowly but surely baby steps.
Can't lose your head over every little thing.

DianaGohan

03-24-2003, 12:02 AM

It's still not what I'd consider to be the best animated film of the year (the Bebop movie would have been my pick, though I'm not sure whether it was technically up for consideration to be nominated

It may be up next year, since it is suppose to be getting a limited theather run starting this april, which would put it in the running for next year's oscars (even though I doubt it would end up getting nominated). As for the Spirited Away win, I'm glad that a worthy movie won the award, one that I still need to see. Someday.

StrangerAtaru

03-24-2003, 12:06 AM

lostrune

03-24-2003, 12:28 AM

It may be up next year, since it is suppose to be getting a limited theather run starting this april, which would put it in the running for next year's oscars (even though I doubt it would end up getting nominated).
It can't.
Cowboy Bebop must have been originally aired within 2 years of the Awards - so for the 2003 Oscars, that's 2002-2003. It originally aired Aug 2001, thus ineligible for the 2003 Oscars.

Leaping Larry Jojo

03-24-2003, 12:33 AM

If anyone heard an extremely loud noise about 8:40 EST this evening, that was me celebrating "Spirited Away" 's victory.

Amazing how two of the best awards went to directors who aren't in the country right now. Hayao Miyazaki, the genius of anime who couldn't come due to the war, and Roman Polanski, who couldn't come into the country due to the warrant on his head. At least genius does know how to cross borders.

BTW: While some of the anti-war stuff did get annoying (and yes, I am against the war as well), I think Michael Moore's acceptance speech rocked!

Roman Polanski--The Most Popular Wanted Man in Hollywood!

Chicago for best picture? Booo

Actually, I thought Moore's speech was bad timing (typical), but it was definitely entertaining and hilarious to watch, especially the boos and catcalls. Wouldn't be characteristic of Moore without people hating him vocally!

The Clown Prince

03-24-2003, 04:34 AM

Where did that other animated short The Cathedral come from? The animation in that looked really good. Well, from the 3 second spot I saw of it anyway.

The Clown Prince

Sharklady

03-24-2003, 07:33 AM

> Actually, it was reported that Disney would consider a wider release if (Spirited Away) won the Oscar. <

That would be a most desirable event.

While I'm still annoyed at the academy for not nominating 'The Powerpuff Girls Movie' (it's *definitely* better than that wild horse thing), I've always considered 'Sprited Away' the one that deserved to win, so I'll give 'em credit for that.

shogunthethird

03-24-2003, 11:28 AM

for once I don't have a clever rebuttal, It's now monday and I'm still in utter shock and disbelief that the academy actually pulled their heads out of their *****es and actually gave the thing to a film that deserved it for once in a non-technical category and yet in another sign of the apocalypse, friggin EMINEM won an oscar, anyone care to explain that one? "Blame canada" doesn't get one but HE does? what the frell does that mean because it can't mean they're taking animation SERIOUSLY for once considering atlantis and VHD:B weren't even nominated last year, ah well whaddya gonna do

sKorpia

03-24-2003, 11:49 AM

I've mixed feeling about Spirited Away winning.

The Yay!:
At least anime is getting wider recognition as something slightly more serious than Pokémon. Not much, but it's something. And I had a feeling the Academy might choose it because of sheer novelty value since most members of the Academy wouldn't have seen anything like it before. The film's animation is admittedly breath-taking and with stodgy adults who last remember cartoons being Hanna-Barbara (sp?) stuff, Spirited Away is definitely intriguing.

The Nay :( :
Lilo and Stitch should have won this category. On a purely animation level, Spirited Away gets a slight nod over L&S, but as a whole package, L&S had it. There was an actual story and a rather touching one at that. And it's the story that would've pushed me over to the L&S side.

Overall:
I hope that it came down to between Spirited Away and L&S and I'm glad that one of them won.

Also, must give props (we need to find another word for this) to Adrian Brody and his acceptance speech. Spot on.

mobo85

03-24-2003, 12:03 PM

Im trying to figure out how the heck Chubb Chubbs beat Mike's new car. I saw Chubb Chubbs on the MIIB Dvd and it was so annoying, I muted it.

Mikes New Car was just oozing with halarity--- they are truly blind.

That's interesting, as I thought just the opposite. In my opinion, I found Mike's New Car to be horribly unfunny and The ChubbChubbs! to be very clever. In my mind, a unique parody of sci-fi cliches is a lot funnier than two monsters in a defective car.

Yuss

03-24-2003, 03:34 PM

I'm in the apparent minority that didn't think The ChubbChubbs! was that funny. I didn't see any of the other nominated short films, but this one didn't scream "Oscar" to me.

~B+:

Mynd Hed

03-24-2003, 03:42 PM

That's overly optimistic.
Everybody says something like that whenever a headliner happens: Princess Mononoke, Pokemon, Cowboy Bebop, Golden Bear Award, etc.
But rather, it's baby steps, slowly but surely baby steps.
Can't lose your head over every little thing.

Yeah, but Princess Mononoke tanked at the box office thanks to getting zero promotion, people see Pokemon as kids' stuff, and Cowboy Bebop is a niche thing airing late at night on basic cable. None of those have won an Oscar. This at least shows us that anime is getting some mainstream artistic recognition, even if (apart from kids' stuff like Pokemon) we haven't exactly seen a wide-release box-office blockbuster quite yet.

pabcool

03-24-2003, 03:48 PM

If anyone heard an extremely loud noise about 8:40 EST this evening, that was me celebrating "Spirited Away" 's victory.

Amazing how two of the best awards went to directors who aren't in the country right now. Hayao Miyazaki, the genius of anime who couldn't come due to the war, and Roman Polanski, who couldn't come into the country due to the warrant on his head. At least genius does know how to cross borders.

BTW: While some of the anti-war stuff did get annoying (and yes, I am against the war as well), I think Michael Moore's acceptance speech rocked!

Ditto.

Now, I'll scream real loud.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

JetMaster5

03-24-2003, 04:18 PM

Actually, it was reported that Disney would consider a wider release if it won the Oscar.

And they'd be stupid if they decided to not to.

This at least shows us that anime is getting some mainstream artistic recognition...

Yea and hopefully people would stop thinking about anime as cartoon porn and stuff.

...and yet in another sign of the apocalypse, friggin EMINEM won an oscar, anyone care to explain that one? "Blame canada" doesn't get one but HE does? what the frell does that mean because it can't mean they're taking animation SERIOUSLY for once considering atlantis and VHD:B weren't even nominated last year, ah well whaddya gonna do

If they weren't taking animation seriously, care to explain how Sprited Away won? If they weren't taking that seriously, then odds are, Sprit, the horse, would have taken home a golden naked man.

Really, what's wrong with Eminem winning an oscar? Granted, this year wasn't a good year for movies, but what's wrong with him winning an oscar?

PowerZord

03-24-2003, 05:30 PM

I can't belive an anime took the oscar this year. Look guys I'm am Anime Fan But I really wanted Lilo & Stich or Spirit to win! I wonder why an anime won.... :confused:

Sharklady

03-24-2003, 07:31 PM

> I wonder why an anime won.... <

I don't think the members voted for it *because* it was anime; I think it won because they liked *that particular* movie. And with reason.

'Lilo and Stich' was a perfectly good contender, but there wasn't all that much in it that we haven't seen before, wherence 'Spirited Away'... well, I think those visuals speak for themselves.

Lonestarr

03-24-2003, 09:09 PM

It's good that Spirited Away won.

To be honest with you, I didn't care who won. I haven't seen Spirit or the winning film.

Ice Age, Lilo and Stitch and Treasure Planet (I honestly don't understand all the hate for this wonderful movie) were all entertaining. It would've been nice to see any of them win, but, right now, hooray for Hayao Miyazaki.

lostrune

03-24-2003, 10:56 PM

Yeah, but Princess Mononoke tanked at the box office thanks to getting zero promotion,
Arguably. Don't forget the Minneapolis aspect.

people see Pokemon as kids' stuff, and Cowboy Bebop is a niche thing airing late at night on basic cable. None of those have won an Oscar. This at least shows us that anime is getting some mainstream artistic recognition, even if (apart from kids' stuff like Pokemon) we haven't exactly seen a wide-release box-office blockbuster quite yet.
Nevertheless, fans tend to blow these things out of proportion.

BTW, several years ago, Ghost in the Shell reached #1 in the Billboard Charts too, and its videos were everywhere to be seen. Then fans jumped the gun....

Baby steps.

lostrune

03-24-2003, 11:00 PM

I can't belive an anime took the oscar this year. Look guys I'm am Anime Fan But I really wanted Lilo & Stich or Spirit to win! I wonder why an anime won.... :confused:
Before we answer that question, have you seen it?

Rainbow Fright

03-25-2003, 03:21 PM

Sharklady

03-25-2003, 05:59 PM

> I did the "wooo" dance when SA won, but the "bah" dance b/c at the smae time L&S lost... <

Well, that's the drawback to having single-winner competitions. For several years running now, we've been getting more than one animated movie per year that was worthy of an Oscar.

Which is certainly better than the alternative!

Gary L Thompson

03-25-2003, 09:57 PM

Actually, today AICN annouced that Disney will be rereleasing SA on April 28th on about 800 screens..Which is (i think) way more than it had before. I did the "wooo" dance when SA won, but the "bah" dance b/c at the smae time L&S lost..I love those too so much and I can't wait till L&S: the tv show comes out...Oh yeah..Ice Age was a really really dumb movie that sucked of much. :moon2:

Well, letssee, "Spirited Away" has not had universal praise from the critics, but pretty close to it. And the film in fact has done business approaching a blockbuster pace in theaters where people have had a chance to see it (tragically, only a precious few). Is Disney so awash in profits that they can afford not to give a movie like this a wide release?

Rainbow Fright

03-27-2003, 03:37 PM

Well, letssee, "Spirited Away" has not had universal praise from the critics, but pretty close to it. And the film in fact has done business approaching a blockbuster pace in theaters where people have had a chance to see it (tragically, only a precious few). Is Disney so awash in profits that they can afford not to give a movie like this a wide release?

You're right..a MAJOR movie theater around my houes (lows methinks) had SA and almost every showing was sold out :bcup: That made me happy

Chazz Adams

03-28-2003, 09:23 PM

You're right..a MAJOR movie theater around my houes (lows methinks) had SA and almost every showing was sold out :bcup: That made me happy

I'm going to go see it this weekend. The commercials look intriguing.

Sharklady

03-30-2003, 08:46 AM

> I'm going to go see it this weekend. <

I dare to say; you are definitely going to find this one worth the price, even if you buy an evening ticket. :D

Rainbow Fright

03-31-2003, 03:10 PM

*squeee* One of my non-cartoony friends saw SA..She loved it! She said " That's the scariest cartoon I've ever seen.." Which I guess was a good thing. Miyazaki is good for everyone ^^

Sharklady

03-31-2003, 05:50 PM

> She said " That's the scariest cartoon I've ever seen.." <

Really? Though there's a number of scenes in 'Spirited Away' which could frighten younger kids (that's why it's PG), I certainly wouldn't call it a Scary cartoon. I consider it comperable to 'Alice in Wonderland', with a somewhat greater sense of threat, and a bit more vomiting than I really needed. But for the most part, the images are just harmlessly fantastical, and the viewer, like Chihiro, finds this ever less disturbing as the story progess.

Rainbow Fright

04-02-2003, 10:02 PM

She thought..crap..I forgot the Noh guys name..but she thought he was scary..I thought he was a bit menacing too. Plus, we've all heard AIW before..SA is new..so while you know that the mad hatter is just an insane little man wearing hats..you don't know whether or not Haku(dragon form) will eat Chihiro!