Who would like to see...? Samurai Jack thoughts..

[Zim_Zany9000]

Ok here's ideas and possibilities I thought that might happen in the new upcoming episodes of Samurai Jack....

1. Samurai Jack has a son
2. Samurai jack has a son and trains him or adopts a side kick orphan for the rest of the series and trains him.
3. Samurai Jack finds the woman of his dreams (not disguised Aku) and the rest of the series has her in it...
4. Samurai Jack's other relatives descendants (cousins, etc) are discovered
in the future by SJ himself


Just a couple of ideas and thoughts! How many of you would actually like to see some of these actually happen/occur in Samurai jack..? :)

[Numbuh 4]

i like choice 4 because the rest would change the show forever...
i just like Jack and only Jack as the main character
it just is better that way (that's an opinion, not the law)
ok
neat ideas though, they'd be good for fanfics

[Rune]

Originally posted by Zim_Zany9000
Ok here's ideas and possibilities I thought that might happen in the new upcoming episodes of Samurai Jack....

1. Samurai Jack has a son
2. Samurai jack has a son and trains him or adopts a side kick orphan for the rest of the series and trains him.
3. Samurai Jack finds the woman of his dreams (not disguised Aku) and the rest of the series has her in it...
4. Samurai Jack's other relatives descendants (cousins, etc) are discovered
in the future by SJ himself


Just a couple of ideas and thoughts! How many of you would actually like to see some of these actually happen/occur in Samurai jack..? :)

To be honest I'm not sure I'd want to see any of those done. Number 3 is a concept that - admittedly through nobodys fault as fantasy/creativity go hand in hand - has been done to death through Jack fanfiction. Also it would totally change the way the series runs to have a heroine/girlfriend tacked-on to Jack. He would surely lose much of his focus unless the 'love of his life' had been flung forwards in time too and that's really getting a bit too cliche to swallow. Why would Aku do that to anyone else unless they too had an enchanted blade? It rather defeats itself.

And the main thing about giving him a girlfriend is the wince-factor do you know how many fangirls this guy has? Ikra & Jessie Clench were bad enough, she'd have to be everywoman and then some! :D

The relatives concept is perhaps the only one I think I'd be interested in seeing, but hopefully it would not make it so obvious, at least initially ... again it borders on the cliche though if its handled right there's nothing wrong with that. Mind you in some of his adventures Jack has more or less encountered his own 'legend' already... hmmm, now what if his relatives worshipped Aku and he couldn't convince them otherwise, now that might be fun ... :eek:

[Donna lady]

Actually, I don't think a story idea need be disqualified just because it's a cliche. To be fair, doesn't the whole idea of the series sound like a bit of a cliche? And many of the episodes that we've already seen would sound cliched in a bare-bones summary. At least with Samurai Jack so far, it's not the originality of the plot lines, but the way they handle the material that give the stories their interest and excitement.
Nor does the abundance of Jack fan-fiction romance mean that the show's writers couldn't do it. Heck, because of legal concerns, writers on shows still in production are not even supposed to read fan-fiction! So I think fan-fiction and fan-art are irrelevant to the show's staff.

Now, after saying all that, I have to agree with the rest of what Rune and the others have said. I wouldn't much like to see Jack with a woman or a child. Jack in any kind of enduring, loving relationship would go completely against the grain of the show so far. (Sorry for mixing up my metaphors. I hope you understand what I mean, though.)
If you're talking about what they might do if SJ gets picked up for another 52 episodes, then that's a different story. Then they might indeed do something like that, if only to liven up the show's concept. But the idea of Jack with a child conjures up images of "Samurai and Scrappy Jack" or something.

I did have some actual ideas for episodes I might like to see--that might stand a chance of being aired sometime, that is. However, my post is already too long. So I'll save my ideas for later.

[Rune]

Jack & Scrappy Jack? Ugh did it just get cold on here or is it me.


Originally posted by Donna lady:
Nor does the abundance of Jack fan-fiction romance mean that the show's writers couldn't do it. Heck, because of legal concerns, writers on shows still in production are not even supposed to read fan-fiction! So I think fan-fiction and fan-art are irrelevant to the show's staff.


I concur, you don't have to read fanfiction, you don't have to look at fan art, show writers aren't supposed to read fanfiction but fanfiction writers watch new eps avidly and - I speak from the experience of watching/listening to the reactions of young fans of another cartoon - if they see something even remotely familiar then they have a habit of assuming that the writer has used their idea and its very hard to dissuade them. In the end it doesn't really matter I suppose, my point was that since the Jack/ideal heroine romance is such a hot favourite with fanfic writers no matter how much you work it around its always going to be a bit of a quagmire.

And yes you're right, the whole show is a cliche, Jack himself both in characters and looks is a cliche and then of course there's his predicament - they're all familiar territory but like you mentioned and like I said in my earlier post there's nothing wrong with cliches if they're handled properly ... and so far they seem to be doing a pretty fine job :D

I still wish you hadn't mentioned Scrappy Jack though :eek:

[Donna lady]

Originally posted by Rune
Jack & Scrappy Jack? Ugh did it just get cold on here or is it me.
Sounds like it's time for a nice hot double latte!


I concur, you don't have to read fanfiction, you don't have to look at fan art, show writers aren't supposed to read fanfiction but fanfiction writers watch new eps avidly and - I speak from the experience of watching/listening to the reactions of young fans of another cartoon - if they see something even remotely familiar then they have a habit of assuming that the writer has used their idea and its very hard to dissuade them.
Wow, good point. Sounds like the writers have to hope that said fans don't have lots of money to spend on legal fees. :eek: (Although in real life, there would have to be compelling evidence that the writers stole someone's unique ideas before a court would even consider a suit.)


In the end it doesn't really matter I suppose, my point was that since the Jack/ideal heroine romance is such a hot favourite with fanfic writers no matter how much you work it around its always going to be a bit of a quagmire.
True, true. Well, what can you do? Jack is indeed a hot favorite.

What?!?


I still wish you hadn't mentioned Scrappy Jack though :eek:
Just be thankful I didn't say something about Scooby and Scrappy Aku... oops. *claps hand over mouth belatedly*

"Go, go, Gadget mental image cleansing!"
;)

[samurai_miaka]

We already know from interviews from Mr. Tartakovsky that there won't be a future partner, lover or son or whatever, to accompany Jack. He's a ronin, or lone warrior, and a "sidekick" would destroy the samurai essence. So companions that come and go, like the Scotsman, fit better. I'll be they're going to come up with some female who falls in love with Jack, but Jack has to refuse for her to come with him. (But the real question is whether he'll fall in love...

Scrappy Jack? :eek:

[Rune]

Originally posted by Donna lady
Just be thankful I didn't say something about Scooby and Scrappy Aku... oops. *claps hand over mouth belatedly*

"Go, go, Gadget mental image cleansing!"
;)

Scrappy Aku? *winces* ohhhh now that's definitely not funny - thanks for attempting to get it outta my head (even after you so thoughtfully put it there in the first place) lol.

[Nik Jam]

in serious terms, end the Future Aku saga at Episode 52/next movie. And have a new saga for the next 52. Taking place in the past. (Which is his present) But that would be taking SJ in too much of a new direction, I dont know if it'd do well.

[Kuja's Light]

If jack were to fall in love. it shouldn't happen until after he returns to the past, and after he destroys Aku.

[Rune]

Originally posted by NikJam
in serious terms, end the Future Aku saga at Episode 52/next movie. And have a new saga for the next 52. Taking place in the past. (Which is his present) But that would be taking SJ in too much of a new direction, I dont know if it'd do well.

I'm not that sure what I'd make of it either, you're right it would be unfamiliar territory and also begs the question, mentioned in the other SJ thread of what he would actually be doing once he was back in his own present. If he'd defeated Aku what would there be for him to do after he'd 'tidied up' a bit, scoured the cities, cleanses Aku's evil from the land etc? Undoubtedly watching him and his intended walking under the cherries might be pretty but its hardly what fans have come to expect ... Jack isn't Tenchi :p

Assuming he had defeated Aku where would a new saga go? New previously not-quite-evil enough forces arising? It makes my head hurt :D

[Samurai Kat]

I think #3 for me. :D But she must know how to kick butt.

[samurai_miaka]

Originally posted by Rune
Assuming he had defeated Aku where would a new saga go?
Well, it does mention in the premiere movie that Aku was only imprisioned from the sword by Jack's father. Doesn't that mean that when Jack finally destroys Aku ('cause we all know he will :p), Aku will just be imprisioned back into that tree thing? Perhaps Aku will come back out of his imprisionment once more and now it'll be Jack's son (or even better, Jack's daughter) who must destroy him for the third generation running? Sounds a bit repetitive to me. Then again, Dragonball Z's made millions, and look how long that series is, with people dying and coming back to life, dying and coming back to life.... guess we can expect just about anything.

Perhaps if Jack found the "love of his life" near the end of the series so he could bring her back to his own time, that'd be all right, but it'd still be much more satisfying if he ended up marrying the girl he played with in the fields in episode 19 (remembrance).

[Rune]

Uh huh, Aku does say something along the lines of the blade being unable to destroy him so presumably after being on the business end of it he'd be reduced back to a tree ... the idea of another eclipse setting him lose on Jack's kids down through the generations - each sending him back to stump-ville only to rise again later on and so forth in a down the ages neverending cycle sounds a bit excruciating as well as pointless though.


Miaka: Perhaps if Jack found the "love of his life" near the end of the series so he could bring her back to his own time, that'd be all right, but it'd still be much more satisfying if he ended up marrying the girl he played with in the fields in episode 19 (remembrance).
Mmmm hmmmm ... there again by the time he's through he's going to have that long beard so she may well decide to run off with the Scotman's son instead :eek: j/k

[Anarky]

i'd like to see Jack come across a Japanese princess
however, he'd have to leave her to fulfill his obligation to destroy aku: torn between true love and duty. this could later be used against the samurai

definitely more legends, gods, myths...like the Maze of the Minotaur, Medusa, etc... I'd also think it'd be neat if Jack fought an illusionist, like Mysterio/Spellbinder.

i had hoped jack would fight a dragon...man was that a disappointment. now they can never do another dragon ep :mad:

hey, how about an epwhere Jack ventures to "Cloud City" a la Empire Strikes Back (except Aku is NOT Jack's father :D )

or how about someone like Maxie Zeus. Jack comes across a decaying Greek village, dictated by "Zeus". Jack challenges the rule of Zeus.

and how about a Punisher-esque bounty hunter (armed to the teeth w/ an unending supply of guns)

and how about a mentalist (prof x-jean grey type stuff)
or a Phoenix
or what if Aku unleashed a creature like Juggernaut or Doomsday, rampaging the Earth seking to destroy Jack.

yeah i know...unoriginal concepts...but if properly em-ployed, they'd still be fun, action=packed eps. Much better than Wonderland, the SHoes, or the Farting Dragon.

how about a Liliputian-type story, where Jack is the giant. he comes across a tiny society (but not Smurf knockoffs or gnome wannabes)

or a hobgoblin-type villain, glider, bombs, grotesque face

[LightAngel]

I always thought that Jack would find his female equal in the future, but that they wouldn't end up together until he finally defeated Aku. After that, she should follow him back to the past. During all of this, Aku would probably use her as a means to hurt Jack. I realize this probably sounds like a cliche, but I'm a sucker for romantic cliches!

[All-Star 1.5]

I know for the next 52 episodes Jack is sent into another dimension after he has killed Aku, but in this alternate future Jacks' doppleganger is the ruler and now Jack must fight Jack and find a portal in order to return to his own dimension, but then he must also find another portal to return to his own time.

or

Jack in space. The lone samuri is banished to uncharted territory space with the Scottsman by Aku and must now join forces to fight the evil tyranny of a new villian who in every way is more dangerous then Aku because she is a woman with a sword more powerful then Jack's and space rule, but in the process also return to Earth or find a time portal in space.