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Pietro
09-15-2001, 07:03 PM
What do you think was the most disturbing scene in a cartoon?
Here are some of mine:
"Steamboat Willie": When Mickey plays with the mother pig's t**ts

"Opening Night": In this Van Beuren Cubby the Bear cartoon, the image of the dead animal body parts lying on the ground was always distrubing.

-Pietro

The Dork Knight
09-15-2001, 07:06 PM
even though I hav'nt seen it, Pastry Pirates with the dead moose.

PorkyandDaffy
09-15-2001, 07:16 PM
The alt. ending of HARE RIBBIN' with Bugs killing the dog by shooting him was pretty gruesome, but funny.

alstin
09-15-2001, 07:45 PM
The scene from a certaint Sniffles cartoon when a bunch of Sniffles's friend drill a corkskrew into a cats butt.

Thad Komorowski
09-15-2001, 07:45 PM
Actually, that Woody Woodpecker cartune was "Pantry Panic", and the ending was VERY disturbing.

Some more scenes:

"Hollywood Matador"
The opening scenes of signs for Woody's bullfight, show Woody grinding a bulls tail in a meat grinder, while the bull is screaming.

"Who's Cookin' Who?"
One of my favorite scenes, but it's very gruesome, has Woody shoving the wolf's tail into a meat grinder.*CRUNCHCRUNCH*

"Two Little Indians"
One of the little mouse Indians chops off Tom's tail in FULL view.

"Of Mice and Menace"
The ending, of Herman and his nephews using Kantip's dead body as target practice.

"Professor Tom"
Jerry cracking Tom's tailbone in half.

"Hare Ribbin'"
This one has been mentioned, but here's another scene that's disturbed me. Where the dog EXACTLY stops sniffing Bugs (no it wasn't his armpit...)

These are the only few I can think of right now.

-Thad:D

alstin
09-15-2001, 07:52 PM
Also Daffy pretending that his head has been chopped of and squirting ketchup in "The Wise Quacking Duck" (Clampett; 1943).

The Dork Knight
09-15-2001, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Thad Komorowski

"Hollywood Matador"
The opening scenes of signs for Woody's bullfight, show Woody grinding a bulls tail in a meat grinder, while the bull is screaming.

"Who's Cookin' Who?"
One of my favorite scenes, but it's very gruesome, has Woody shoving the wolf's tail into a meat grinder.*CRUNCHCRUNCH*


Boy Woody must love meat grinders!

Thad Komorowski
09-15-2001, 08:00 PM
"Fair Weather Fiends" also has a scene where Woody has the same wolf in a meat grinder, only this time, the wolf's body becomes a hot dog. A similar scene can be found in the Tom and Jerry cartoon "Triplet Trouble", with one of the bratty kittens sticking Jerry into one.

-Thad:D

alstin
09-15-2001, 08:05 PM
Anybody remember these:

"Big House Bunny" (Freleng; 1950):
Bugs runs up onto a hanging noose's scaffold and presses a button and the platform beneath him lowers like an elevator. Yosemite Sam "Schultz" tries this and is hanged before the prison warden screams, "Schultz! Office!"

"Big Man From the North" (Harman and Ising; 1931):
Bosko stabbing the villain in the backside.

"Cross-Country Detours" (Avery; 1940):
"Here we have a close-up of a frog croaking." Then, the frog shoots himself in the head with a gun. After this, there is a patron notice, indicating that the sponsors are not responsible for what has occurred.

Pietro
09-15-2001, 08:11 PM
Here are some more:

"High Steaks" (MGM): The way Tom's master treats him
in this is inhuman!

"Down and Outing" (MGM): The scene where Tom crys at the end while fish get slapped in his face.

"Hold Anything" (WB): When I first saw this, I was distrubed when it came down to Bosko cutting off the mouse's head. But now I find it very entertaining and VERY funny!

"Bosko's Store" (WB): The scene where Wilber grabs a line of barbed wire and runs it under Bosko's crotch forcing Bosko to scream.

-Pietro

Jon Cooke
09-15-2001, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Pietro
"Bosko's Store" (WB): The scene where Wilber grabs a line of barbed wire and runs it under Bosko's crotch forcing Bosko to scream.



Now *that* gets my vote for the most PAINFUL scene in cartoon history! :o

As for disturbing, as a kid I used to be a little bothered by the ending of "Tweet and Sour", where Sylvester says "What's the use? She'll never believe me..." then falling backwards into the violin case.


-Jon

Rob
09-15-2001, 09:45 PM
In Avery's SLAP HAPPY LION, when the bomb explodes inside the lion to reveal his skeleton! Then the flesh and fur fall back into place.

And in a Jones Tom and Jerry with the pint-sized bulldog (Was it PURR-CHANCE TO DREAM? Or the other one, the title of which escapes me at the moment. Someone help me out here...) chewing up Tom so he resembles link sausages! Eeeeyuck!

BourgeoisBuffoon
09-15-2001, 11:22 PM
SAID BY ALSTIN: Also Daffy pretending that his head has been chopped of and squirting ketchup in "The Wise Quacking Duck"

That gets my vote. I saw that toon tons of times and it still creeped me out...and all these that I've heard are gonna make me a bit queasy....'scuse me...

Patrick McCart
09-16-2001, 01:52 AM
The Great Piggy Bank Robbery - Daffy firing his tommy gun at a door and the bodies falling out. It's even more disturbing after he gets the bank (you see the dead bodies behind him!)

Larry T
09-16-2001, 10:27 AM
Favourite Gruesome scenes:

Bad Ol' Putty Tat- (WB) When Tweety ties the rocket to Sylvester's tooth and it rips his jowls out.

Who's Cookin Who- (Lantz) The wolf's tail in the meat grinder scene.... As Thad said, "Crunch, Crunch, Crunch..."

Destination Meatball- (Lantz) When Woody gets the invisible ink poured on him and his torso vanishes, Buzz thinks he's been dismembered... and he sweeps the individual rolling body parts into concealment as if they really are dismembered!!

The Kid From Mars- (Paramount) A little boy spaceman lands on earth and is told to go to school. On his way he passes a barking dog which he shoots with his raygun- the dog's body disappears except for his skeleton which continues to move silently as if it were still barking.... Eeeeewwwww.

Hare Ribbin- (WB) The original ending... pretty gruesome stuff.

Minnie The Moocher- (Fleischer) Aside from the backgrounds in this cartoon, there's a haunting scene where a mother cat is suckled by her kittens. The kittens feed from her in intervals, each time reducing her size until she finally lies there as if she is dead.......

Cat Napping- (MGM) Tom goes through the lawn mower alive.... Aaaaauuuggghhhh.

One Quack Mind- (Paramount) Baby Huey watches the fox's bullet-riddled body squeeze through a player piano, which happens to make it play music. Huey: "Dah...- gee, he plays good!"

Feed The Kitty- (WB) The supposed torture Marc Anthony thinks that Pussyfoot is going through.

Song Of The Birds- (Paramount) Little Audrey shoots a baby bird out of flight with her B-B gun. The rest of the cartoon is a tough-to-endure, drawn-out sequence showcasing the mother bird mourning the baby's death, and the forest creatures performing a funeral. One of the most gruesome scenes is a close-up of the mother shaking the baby's lifeless body after the realization that he might be dead and crying "Waa-a-a-ake Upppp!!!"

An Itch In Time- (WB) Take your pick of any scene here. Remember, the dog is actually being eaten alive, and the cat dies at the end :eek: .

L00nE2n
09-16-2001, 01:53 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I've always found it a bit disturbing in "Porky's Naughty Nephew" when the mother duck eats her young to help her win the race.

BugsandTweety
09-16-2001, 02:26 PM
"Hyde And Go Tweet" is a disturbing cartoon through and through, but probably the most unnerving scene is Sylvester, locked in a room with Tweety, after Tweety has reverted to Hyde. Real nightmare material there. Thank goodness Sylvester wakes up at that point.

"Tweet and Sour" is disturbing as well. Some of Elmer's scenes in "Quack Shot" after being blown up are quite graphic.

Brandon Pierce
09-16-2001, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Larry T

An Itch In Time- (WB) Take your pick of any scene here. Remember, the dog is actually being eaten alive, and the cat dies at the end .

The cat doesn't die! If you watch the suicide gag closely you'll see the blast is in front of his head, meaning the bullet missed. Although the blast had enogh kick to send him across the room!

sun
09-16-2001, 03:48 PM
These are from two full length cartoons. Disney
Most disturbing thing- on Pleasure Island, when all the boys are turned into mules...Pinnochio...If you have never watched this, it is truly horrific. Pinnochio was one of the darkest films that Disney ever made..
Second most disturbing, the changing of the evil queen in Snow White into a haggard old woman for the sole purpose of killing Snow White. That scene, stands out as a tribute to great animation, and for its message that evil and vanity will do anything to win.

sun
09-16-2001, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Pietro
What do you think was the most disturbing scene in a cartoon?
Here are some of mine:
"Steamboat Willie": When Mickey plays with the mother pig's t**ts

"Opening Night": In this Van Beuren Cubby the Bear cartoon, the image of the dead animal body parts lying on the ground was always distrubing.

-Pietro

Very interresting question, well put and some excellent discussion has followed..oldtoonguy

Matt Yorston
09-16-2001, 04:59 PM
I've never much likes the scene in "Captain Hareblower" where Sam tries to swim under with a bomb, a fish eats him, the bomb explodes, and all that's left is the fish's skeleton with Sam clinging from inside. Pretty gruesome for a WB cartoon, IMHO.

alstin
09-16-2001, 05:02 PM
I think that it's pretty greusome that Pinky wants to cut of a squirrels head in "Porky's Picnic". It looks like he does cut the squirrels head of the last time he tries it before Petunia takes him away. Also in the same short, when the crocodile is snoring and Porky and Pinky pass through it's mouth, it looks like the croc would have caught him!

Jon Cooke
09-16-2001, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by alstin
I think that it's pretty greusome that Pinky wants to cut of a squirrels head in "Porky's Picnic". It looks like he does cut the squirrels head of the last time he tries it before Petunia takes him away. Also in the same short, when the crocodile is snoring and Porky and Pinky pass through it's mouth, it looks like the croc would have caught him!


This reminds me, has anyone else ever noticed the similarities between the close calls between Pinky Pig and the zoo animals to the ones Swee' Pea had in the Popeye cartoon "Little Swee' Pea" (especially the sleeping crocodile scene)?

One more disturbing scene for the list: a depressed Tom and Jerry on the railroad tracks at the end of "Blue Cat Blues".


-Jon

Pietro
09-16-2001, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Jon Cooke
This reminds me, has anyone else ever noticed the similarities between the close calls between Pinky Pig and the zoo animals to the ones Swee' Pea had in the Popeye cartoon "Little Swee' Pea" (especially the sleeping crocodile scene)?

Yeah. That is interesting, considering Fleischer & WB
were big rivals.

Here's another distrubing scene,
in the Lantz Oswald cartoon, "The Prison Panic"
a real distrubing scene was when Oswald reels his tongue back
in his mouth while black goop oozes all over the place.
Is this black ooze blood?

-Pietro

J Lee
09-16-2001, 06:38 PM
This reminds me, has anyone else ever noticed the similarities between the close calls between Pinky Pig and the zoo animals to the ones Swee' Pea had in the Popeye cartoon "Little Swee' Pea" (especially the sleeping crocodile scene)?

Well, one of the gag men at the Max Fleisher studio when that Popeye cartoon was made, according to Mike Barrier, was one Warren Foster, who a short time later got a job through his former Fleischer Studio acquaintance Michael Maltese at the Schlesinger Studio. Maltese asked Leon if he could give Foster a job, and he went to work in 1938 for the Bob Clampett unit, right about the time "Porky's Picnic" was going into production.

Thad Komorowski
09-16-2001, 06:41 PM
"The Awful Tooth"

Even if it doesn't really happen to Buzzy, Katnip ignoring Buzzy and just chopping off his head, and carrying a what seems to be a decapitated bird, is pretty gruesome.

"Uncle Tom's Cabana"

Legree sawing Uncle Tom in half in a saw mill was pretty gruesome. But the most disturbing scene in this cartoon was the ending with Uncle Tom getting hit by lightning (for lying) and soul flying up to heaven, with his BARE ***** sticking out. "Ya know, we lose more Uncle Toms 'dat way!"

"The Flying Cat"

Tom falling down the tree, sawing it in two with his crotch. *BUZZZZZZZZZZZZ*

"Cueball Cat"

Tom throwing a pool stick at Jerry, and it goes under his crotch, making the same sound effect.

"The Cuckoo Clock"

The bird shooting a HUGE hole in the cat's head is gruesome.

-Thad:D

happyheathen
09-16-2001, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Thad Komorowski
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"The Flying Cat"

Tom falling down the tree, sawing it into with his crotch. *BUZZZZZZZZZZZZ*

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I try to ignore spelling and grammer (and logic:) ) on these boards, but...

Make that 'in two', OK?

DR. BELCH
09-17-2001, 05:37 AM
--I did just see a Chuck Jones Tom and Jerry the other night in which Jerry and a friend taunt Tom with a ketchup-covered knife, a pistol, and a noose about his throat. Is it my imagination or did Jones play Jerry a little too mean and sadistic, mistreating Tom for no reason? At least Hanna and Barbera showed Tom being aggressive against Jerry and him only acting in self-defense....

Then there's Junyer Bear's speech in "A Bear for Punishment" after trying to shave Henry with a dull straight razor: "Pa won't talk to me! I nudged him and I nudged him! He's awful quiet." Chilling.

Pietro
09-17-2001, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH
--I did just see a Chuck Jones Tom and Jerry the other night in which Jerry and a friend taunt Tom with a ketchup-covered knife, a pistol, and a noose about his throat.

That cartoon your talking about is "The Year of Mouse."
And your right, it's very distrubing.

-Pietro

Bobby B
09-17-2001, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Jon Cooke
This reminds me, has anyone else ever noticed the similarities between the close calls between Pinky Pig and the zoo animals to the ones Swee' Pea had in the Popeye cartoon "Little Swee' Pea" (especially the sleeping crocodile scene)?


Also, the bit with the lion chasing Porky halting so Porky can catch a fainting Petunia, then resuming, was lifted from another Popeye cartoon, "Fowl Play".

sun
09-17-2001, 10:17 AM
There was a scene from an early Porky Pig, (5th or 6th one made) where he is fishing, and fish attack him, I haven't looked at in years. I think the title is "Gone fishing, not sure, but that is at some levels very disturbing. Someone mist know the name of that one.

sun
09-17-2001, 10:29 AM
Since the topic is "disturbing cartoons" an episode of Animaniacs, upset me a lot. Slappy Squirrel is watching TV, goes nuts, and is put in a nursing home, The treatment that she and other cartoons characters who have gotten old, and gone to this nursing home get, not only was disturbing, but quite real..not a funny one at all. Their actions, talking to each other, and what is done, I found disturbing. (and I am sure that this was made that way on purpose) One good aspect of it ,was that Slappy's nephew constantly comes to visit her, and eventually helps her to escape, and she returns to her normal self.

Pietro
09-17-2001, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by oldtoonguy
There was a scene from an early Porky Pig, (5th or 6th one made) where he is fishing, and fish attack him, I haven't looked at in years. I think the title is "Gone fishing, not sure, but that is at some levels very disturbing. Someone mist know the name of that one.

The title is "Fish Tales." One of Jack King's Porkys.
King used to push Porky around alot in his cartoons.

-Pietro

Garrett
09-17-2001, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Pietro


The title is "Fish Tales."

Even more gruesome is watching the redrawn version that CN plays.

For modern cartoons, I'll always go for G.I. Joe: The Movie, when Golobulus and Pythona describe (with appropriate graphical support) what Cobra-La has planned for the spores. Honorable mention goes to the He-Man episode "The Problem With Power" (it's not how graphic the "death" in this episode is-it's how everyone reacts to it) and "The Dragon's Graveyard" from Dungeons & Dragons (which is proof positive that anyone can consider murder if pushed too far).

Garrett

The Dork Knight
09-17-2001, 07:47 PM
And for modern toon vote mine goes to any episode of MTV's Celebrity Deathmatch The sickest thing was when Lil' Kim kills Little Richard by ripping off his nipples. Yuk.........

Rob
09-17-2001, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Gotlucky64
And for modern toon vote mine goes to any episode of MTV's Celebrity Deathmatch The sickest thing was when Lil' Kim kills Little Richard by ripping off his nipples. Yuk.........

I know!! I'm not a prude or anything, but geez, that show really goes too far. I realize that extreme exaggeration is supposed to be funny, but this show doesn't work more often than it does work.

Hey! My 100th post!

Nelson
09-17-2001, 11:09 PM
HELL'S BELLS Columbia/Disney- The scene where Satan is picks up his little demons by the tail, and then feeding him to Satan's three headed dog, the first dog as the demon in his mouth, the second dog starts to really chew, and the third dog swallows the demon...This is pretty graphic Disney cartoon for 1929.

HERMAN THE CARTOONIST Paramount- When Herman grabs a pair of scissors and chops off Katnip's head ,while he runs not knowing his head has just been cut off.

THE DUCKSTERS WB- In this one scene where Porky has to name every single American State with dynamite(all lit) in his ears, mouth and all around him, and when time runs out, he explodes.

RED HOT RIDING HOOD MGM-Wolfie commits suicide by pulling out two guns and blowing his brains out, and after he drops dead, his ghost comes out cheering and getting rowdy for Red.

NO SO QUIETUniversal- The landlord gets a vacum sucking out all of Oswald's nephews and then sucks out Oswald, where he puts up a fight not to go into the vacum, and literly gets turned inside out while fighting his way to the closet.

THE DOG SNATCHER Columbia-Scrappy has to save his dog Yippy, from being put to death in the dog pound.Scrappy grabs the dog guard through the fence, and rips not only the dog's fur, but his entire flesh...Leaving the remains of the dog a frighten skeleton, as Scrappy dons the dog's skin to get into the pound to save Yippy.

J Lee
09-17-2001, 11:53 PM
"Winner By A Hare" which Jerry Beck has the original titles up for on his cartoonresearch.com site, has a real gruesome ending -- when Moe Hare wins the race with Tommy Tortoise after betting all his money on the turtle to win and finding out Tommy has made a fortune by betting on Moe, the hare very graphically takes out a gun and does what the gangsters did at the end of "Tortoise Wins By A Hare," except that it is followed by a complete grave with fresh dirt, toombstone and menacing Winston Sharples music.

It took me a long time to actually see the ending of this cartoon, since WNEW in New York cut the print just before Moe puts the gun to his head -- and this was back in the mid-1960s, when virtually no gun violence was censored in cartoons.

Larry T
09-18-2001, 09:41 AM
Ah-

Thanks for posting that information, John- I recorded that cartoon from a network in the early 80s (one that also showed, if you believe, "Pop-Pie A la Mode", "Bathing Buddies", and "Russian Rhapsody" completely unedited) and I always wondered why the print ends so suddenly.

As for Celebrity Deathmatch.... well, I gave that show a chance with several viewings, and I have decided that I absolutely DESPISE that program. It is sick and offensive IMO, and not in a good way (even though at the beginning it blatantly states "Hey, it's only clay".... however clay doesn't bleed or have spilling guts...!!)
The episode that did it for me was the one where LeeAnn Rhimes gets her tongue ripped out and Coolio kills her with it..... Eecchh.

Here's a couple more Hollywood cartoons I can think of:

Buccaneer Woodpecker- (Lantz) Buzz dies at the end after exploding- his ghost re-emerges and says "Didn't feel a thing"as if he believes he's still alive... and walks away over the surface of the sea while a shark snaps at him.

There's Good Boos Tonight- (Paramount) Casper plays hide and seek with a baby fox which he mistakenly lures into a foxhunt. The fox is shot- and Casper picks up the dead body in FULL VIEW, carries it towards the camera, and buries it in a grave beside his.... If that isn't gruesome enough, after a bit of time the fox's ghost floats out of the grave and goes over to Casper, who welcomes him with open arms.... but the scary part is that NOW HE HAS TO PLAY HIDE AND SEEK WITH CASPER FOR AN ETERNITY!!

Pluto's Judgement Day- (Disney) Pluto is taken to court where he is confronted by the remains of every cat he's ever tortured- one that's been run over by a steamroller, one that's unstable mentally (that freaks out every time he hears a dog bark and his care? taker proves it) and three orphans who pull the grave of their "Uncle Tom" around with them because he fell in the river and drowned.......

Wild Elephinks- (Fleischer) Popeye literally bashes all the jungle animals into clothing and utilities at the end.

Scout Fellow- (Paramount) Huey grabs the fox's head- when the fox struggles free, the skin rips off and he grabs it from Huey's hand and puts it back on as if it were a mask!!

Git Along Little Duckie- (Paramount) Huey gives a dynamite cigarette to the fox because he's "too young to smoke". The resulting explosion blows the fox's head and face off, which flies up into the air in components and lands back on his neck in a conglomerate mess.

The Two Mousketeers- (MGM) who can forget Tom's beheading at the end?!?!

sun
09-18-2001, 04:07 PM
One scene that touched me, and in a way I found very disturbing, was from" One Froggy Evning" The guy was sitting on the park bench, poor, down and out, it is snowing, I think, and the frog was singing again, and the cop stops the guy and takes the guy off to jail or to an institution....The question of greed vs the guy's honesty, yes, he hears the frog, but no one around him does..in a way , when I watch it is "disturbing." He has given up everything for greed. Ok, it isn't the death of the fox in Red Riding Hood, or the violence in many others discussed, but it is disturbing in another way. I am not sure which is worse. One thing is for sure, Chuck Jones meant it to touch us. And it did so in a very special way. I just don't know if it fits the definition you wanted. Your call.

lislebartman
09-18-2001, 05:25 PM
I always this one scene pretty disturbing:

In "Stage Hoax", Woody's beating heart comes up from inside him and out his mouth. Woody then snaps it up (in one gulp) and swallows it!

Another scene:

In "Fish Tales", a small fish swims into Porky's left nostril and out his right one! OUCH?!?

Pietro
09-20-2001, 08:08 AM
Oh yeah, here's another distrubing scene:
"Hell's Heels" (Universal): After the explosion,
two of Oswald's fellow bandits turn into skeletons.
Very distrubing.

-Pietro

Emmanuel Cruz
09-20-2001, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by J Lee
"
It took me a long time to actually see the ending of this cartoon, since WNEW in New York cut the print just before Moe puts the gun to his head -- and this was back in the mid-1960s, when virtually no gun violence was censored in cartoons.

Sorry to do this, but the station you mean is WNYW New York. WNEW is a radio station in New York. (Which is my favorite station!)

The Dork Knight
09-20-2001, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Larry T

As for Celebrity Deathmatch.... well, I gave that show a chance with several viewings, and I have decided that I absolutely DESPISE that program. It is sick and offensive IMO, and not in a good way (even though at the beginning it blatantly states "Hey, it's only clay".... however clay doesn't bleed or have spilling guts...!!)
The episode that did it for me was the one where LeeAnn Rhimes gets her tongue ripped out and Coolio kills her with it..... Eecchh.



Actually it was Ol' Dirty B****rd who killed her.

Trust me, there have been sicker episodes. Especialy Stone Cold Steve Austin VS. Vince McMahon in Fandimonium 1 in which Austin uses a tombstone (courtasy of the Undertaker) and breaks him into a thousand pieces. Or when a alien killed Mark Hamill and Peter Mayhew by rippng out they're brains. Sick, sick, television.....

TServo2049
09-20-2001, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by DarkEJ310
Sorry to do this, but the station you mean is WNYW New York. WNEW is a radio station in New York. (Which is my favorite station!)

Actually, WNYW used to be called WNEW, until it became a Fox Network affilliate.

DR. BELCH
09-20-2001, 09:11 PM
lislebartman:
In "Stage Hoax", Woody's beating heart comes up from inside him and out his mouth. Woody then snaps it up (in one gulp) and swallows it!
Some Warner shorts, like "Falling Hare" (Bugs' chest cavity shows his bad heart, complete with 4-F stamp) and "The Foxy Duckling" did variations on the beating heart gag too, though this one sounds particularly gruesome.

Let's see now....does anyone else cringe at the scene in "Baby Buggy Bugs" where every time Bugs turns off the light, Finster whallops him with a baseball bat in the dark...and when the light clicks on Bugs is notably worse for the wear? Not to mention that when Bugs stands by the crib and simply utters the word "click", we actually see the action take place? Ouch.

Oldtoonguy also mentions "One Flew Over the Cuckoo Clock", which shows Slappy manifesting symptoms of senile dementia. I always though that one should have a TVY7 rating myself.

Now if you want to talk modern disturbing examples, there's a Beavis and Butt-Head short in which Beavis gets a nosebleed, and for six minutes blood gouts out of his nostrils like a lawn sprinkler on the fritz! Those two are so much like my brothers it's frigging scary!

Pietro
09-20-2001, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by lislebartman
In "Stage Hoax", Woody's beating heart comes up from inside him and out his mouth. Woody then snaps it up (in one gulp) and swallows it!

Bimbo did that first in the 1931 Talkartoon, "Bimbo's Initiation."

-Pietro

J Lee
09-21-2001, 01:29 AM
Sorry to do this, but the station you mean is WNYW New York. WNEW is a radio station in New York. (Which is my favorite station!)

TServo2049 already took care of the correction of the correction for me, but just to go further; John Kludge owned WNEW-AM, WNEW-FM and WNEW-TV in New York as part of his Metromedia Corp., which also included WTTG-Ch. 5 in Washington, KTTV-Ch. 11 in Los Angeles and several other stations across the country. When Rupert Murdoch bought out Metromedia's TV stations as the foundation of the planned Fox Network in 1986, if there were no call letter conflicts with Kludge's radio properties, the TV station call letters stayed. But there were in New York, and that's why WNEW became WNYW. When he later sold off the radio properties and WNEW-AM went to current NYC mayoral candidate Michael Bloomberg, it became WBBR. CBS-Infinity owns the remaining WNEW-FM.

Now, back to a couple of other disturbing cartoons that WNEW used to air as part of the Paramount/Fleischer package.

Naughty But Mice -- The nine ghost cats chasing Herman at the end of the cartoon is a little disconcerting;

Owly to Bed -- Katnip gets sliced in half by an owl he's chasing that sleepwalks when the light is on, but clobbers the cat everytime Herman turns the lights out.

Fido Bets Kappa -- After going to dog training school, Fido proves to be smarter than his master about everything, except for lightning striking twice in the same place. Not a happy ending for master.

Self-Made Mongrel -- The dog in this cartoon gets shot to death by his rich master's loaded finger after he accidentally helps a house burglar steal his master's entire house.

Small Fry -- Another Willard Bowsky nightmare in a cave jobs like the Betty Boop-Cab Calloway shorts, this one with a bunch of underwater tough-guy fish and the title character. Similar to Warner's "Fagan's Freshmen" but more menacing.

King For A Day -- Bowsky again, this time with Gabby and King Bombo trying to avoid being shot by an assassin, who turns out to be "shooting" a photo. Still, it has disturbing angles leading up to the end gag and the "shot" is very realistic sounding.

Betty Boop and Little Jimmy -- Nothing violent about this cartoon, but the thought that you could laugh for a few minutes and put on about 750 pounds like Miss Boop does by the iris out in this short always struck me as a little disturbing.

Matt Yorston
09-21-2001, 11:55 AM
Another disturbing scene came to mind while I was "reminiscing" the other day.

In "Mouse Trouble" (1944), Tom follows the manual's advice to "slip him a surprise package". Tom hides himself inside an ostensible present for Jerry and knocks on his mousehole. Jerry notices the present but, apparently, doesn't trust what he sees so, to make sure it's safe, he sticks it with pins and needles (which protrude from one side of the box to the other) and then, to make matters worse, he opens the box by sawing it clear in half!!! Now that it's open, he looks inside, realizes what has happened, and swallows hard. He then reaches over and holds up a sign, "Is there a doctor in the house?"

The next scene takes some of the pressure off when we see that Tom, thankfully, managed to survive (although we also find out that his little casualty required A LOT of first aid, including 2 huge bandages around his waist).

Thad Komorowski
09-21-2001, 02:40 PM
Here's a scene that's always disturbed me:

"Cat Tamale" (Herman and Katnip)

When Katnip pops out of the fridge and pounces at the mouse, MOST of the mice make it into the hole. The leader of these mice sees his panted cousins and begins taking count by name. When he gets to "Louie" we see the desceased mouse's soul fly up, waving good-bye, as the other mice start crying.

-Thad:(

Cartman
09-21-2001, 06:36 PM
I think the "Itchy and Scratchy" cartoons in "The Simpsons" are the most disturbing cartoons. They've got just about any grusome thing you can think of.


Scratchy's skin/organs disintegrating after carbonic acid spills on him

Saturn's rings cutting Scratchy in half

to name a few.

Vdubdavid
09-21-2001, 09:06 PM
One scene I never liked was in "It's Greek to Meow!" (T&J). Jerry drop a ball with spikes on it on Tom's head. When Tom pulls it off, he's got a hole in his skull that he fills with a cork!

Rob
09-22-2001, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Cartman
I think the "Itchy and Scratchy" cartoons in "The Simpsons" are the most disturbing cartoons. They've got just about any grusome thing you can think of.


Scratchy's skin/organs disintegrating after carbonic acid spills on him

Saturn's rings cutting Scratchy in half

to name a few.

True, they're brutal. Thankfully, they're also very brief.

Of course, Itchy and Scratchy are meant to be a parody of the type of violence you'd see in a Tom and Jerry cartoon. And they always end with Bart and Lisa laughing at them, as if to say "Oh, those two are so heartwarming..."

Pietro
09-22-2001, 01:09 PM
Actually, I think the violence of I&S was inspired
by Herman & Katnip.

-Pietro

Thad Komorowski
09-22-2001, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Pietro
Actually, I think the violence of I&S was inspired
by Herman & Katnip.

So do I. There's alot of violence in this series, lots of head chopping, dieing, and explosions. Also, does anyone else think that Paramount made the most violent cartoons ever?

-Thad:D

Pietro
09-22-2001, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Thad Komorowski
Also, does anyone else think that Paramount made the most violent cartoons ever?

I agree. After the Fleischer brothers left, there was lots of
violence in Paramount cartoons.
HOW COULD THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS?

-Pietro

Thad Komorowski
09-22-2001, 01:21 PM
I also forgot to mention that it seems that most of the scenes in this thread are from the studio...

-Thad:D

J Lee
09-22-2001, 01:44 PM
They could get away with the violence because censors were less strict about that, and more strict about sex and language up until the mid-1960s.

As for why the did it, the violence in the Paramount/Fleischer cartoons was always there, either bubbling under the surface under Max and Dave or out in the open by the late 1940s.

The Willard Bowsky unit under Fleischer came up with some pretty "dark" cartoons, but the violence was tempered by both Dave Flieshcer's gag-oriented style and the overall inventiveness of the studio at the time. After World War II, with Kneitel and Sparber in charge, the problem was they were trying to mimic the Warner Bros. and MGM cartoons either without understanding their strengths, or by trying to do them on the cheap so they couldn't.

There's a lot of violence in the WB cartoons and in the Avery MGMs as well. But what made them funny was not so much the violence itself as the facial reactions before and after it that provided the laugh (the Tom & Jerrys have the same asset, but sometimes they did go too far and even the 'takes' couldn't overcome the painful gags). You know the Coyote is going to get hammered, but it's the reaction shots before and after that carry the cartoons. When Katnip, the Fox or Moe Hare (the animated one) get hammered in a Paramount cartoon, those types of reaction shots are rarely there.

During WWII and for a few years after, Paramount/Famous cartoons were violent, but they were matched with the personality animation needed for the reaction shots to make the 'takes' funny (espeically with the Little Lulu series, which unfortunately no one gets to see anymore).

That may have been due to the major turnover in writers between 1942 and 1950 -- losing first Tedd Pierce, George Manuel, Cal Howed and Dan Gordon and then Bill Turner, Larry Riley, Jack Ward and Otto Messmer definitely hurt, not to mention (which I have, often) the loss of Jim Tyer to Terrytoons in the mid-1940s. But for whatever reason, by 1950 the violence in the Noveltoons was considered enough of a gag by itself and was helped little or not at all by any personality animation -- if the gags and voicework couldn't carry the cartoon, then it was more hurtful than funny to watch.

billyjoelfan
09-22-2001, 06:37 PM
family guy

the scean in witch peter is in his thongs acting "gay" to suduce luke parry and spreding oil on his fat body


BILLYJOEL U WERE GREAT ON TV LAST NIGHT FAN!

Rob
09-22-2001, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Pietro
Actually, I think the violence of I&S was inspired
by Herman & Katnip.

-Pietro

...who were inspired by Tom and Jerry.

barnyarddawg
09-23-2001, 01:32 AM
Some people have mentioned Bugs shooting the dog in the original Hare Ribbin ending as disturbing, but what I really found disturbing was what happened directly before, when the dog bites Bugs in half! I was really caught off guard when I saw that for the first time, and I found it very unsettling. I really don't have a problem with Bugs shooting the dog himself, though.

PorkyandDaffy
09-23-2001, 01:46 AM
That's probably why the made Clampett add in that brief scene in the later version of RIBBIN' where Bugs shows the camera that his legs are folded up in the top half of the sandwich, so we wouldn't think Bugs got eaten in half.

To hell with the censorship board. That's why I like Clampett so much. He was a daring director and wasn't afraid to push the line.

Larry T
09-23-2001, 07:18 AM
Although it has been said several times that the humour in the I&S cartoons was based largely on exaggerated versions of Tom and Jerry and even Herman and Katnip- I still stand to my claim that there was an even more obvious connection to an Italian comic strip back in the late 70s which has much more of the I&S feel. Plus, it seems to make more sense because "The Simpsons" was adapted from Matt Groening's comic strip "Life in Hell", which was started sometime around 1981. If he were in the comic book avenue, he would no doubt have been exposed to the comic book I mentioned called "Squeak the Mouse" which features exactly the same type of gory 'humour' that I&S is most well known for.

See for yourself:

http://members.home.net/kittyface/jpegs/Squeak.jpg

alstin
09-25-2001, 12:20 AM
There is a version where the dog actually chops Bugs in half?!?!?! :confused:

alstin
09-25-2001, 12:22 AM
I see what you mean. I used to believe the T&J theory, but you made me a believer!

barnyarddawg
09-25-2001, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by alstin
There is a version where the dog actually chops Bugs in half?!?!?! :confused:

In the released version, before the dog bites into the sandwich, there is a quick close up of Bugs showing the audience he is tucking his legs in. In the original, the dog just bites right through Bugs with no warning, and Bugs's painful scream becomes more disturbing than funny.

J Lee
09-25-2001, 12:24 PM
There were four changes made to that cartoon between the time is was made and the time it was released, though the other two gags seem pretty harmless -- the dog does some extra sniffing around Bugs at the start of the cartoon and there's one extra go-round of tag between the dog and the mermaid-Bugs in the middle.

Thad Komorowski
09-25-2001, 02:42 PM
Here's one that was forgotten:

In "The Midnight Snack", Tom's crotch slides over a cheese grader!

Also, I saw Squeak the Mouse 2 on a comic book shelf, and on the cover had the same cat chopping Squeak in half with an axe, and we can see his insides! :eek:

-Thad:D

angilbas
10-03-2001, 02:50 AM
National Lampoon #39 (June 1973) had a strip called "Kit 'n Kaboodle." Any spoilers would make this post unsuitable for the TTTP.

As for most disturbing animated scene, how about the ending of "Chow Hound," with the title character receiving gravy at last.

-Tony

PlopKat
10-03-2001, 08:38 PM
One scene that disturbs me is from the Fleischer Popeye short I Wanna Be A Lifeguard: Popeye's empty eye socket "whistles" for a can of spinach.

I agree with many of the choices already made, particularly those from Famous Studios.

To Larry T:

Wow! You're the first person I've met who has a copy of Squeak The Mouse! Does your copy have this sticker inside it:
This copy of "Squeak The Mouse" is from the shipment of books seized by U.S. Customs at JFK Airport on August 1, 1985.

The U.S. Government brought this book to trial on a charge of obscenity on September 26, 1985. After two days of testimony, a jury voted unanimously that "Squeak The Mouse" was not obscene and the shipment was released to the claimant, Catalan Communications.

WARNING: This book contains some cartoons of explicit sexual acts and violence. Sale to minors is prohibited.

By purchasing this book, you have supported the fight for rights guranteed by the First Amendment. Thank you.

Bernard Metz, Publisher
Catalan Communications

I'll have to look for Squeak The Mouse 2!!

Anybody who would like to see the "Kit 'n' Kaboodle" story from National Lampoon can also find it in The National Lampoon Tenth Anniversary Book. Maybe your local library has it. ;)

-PlopKat

frogboxer
04-30-2002, 12:07 PM
I think the most disturbing scene in a cartoon is in "Scaredy Cat" when Sylvester sees the mice carting off the other cat to be executed. It's really quite terrifying and you can definitely feel for Sylvester.

So did that cat get executed? :eek:

Pietro
04-30-2002, 03:37 PM
There's another very disturbing scene in the early Fleischer Screen Song, "Put on Your Old Grey Bonnet." A dog character's stage coach crashes, the dog falls on the ground and pulls a sheet of dirt over him with a flower on top while somber music plays.

-Pietro:D

Daffyfan2002
04-30-2002, 05:50 PM
I think the most disturbing scene in a cartoon is in "Scaredy Cat" when Sylvester sees the mice carting off the other cat to be executed. It's really quite terrifying and you can definitely feel
for Sylvester. So did that cat get executed?
___________________________________________________
I don't remember that part and I've seen the cartoon a thousand times. Was that part edited on both WB and CN?

Pilmedium
04-30-2002, 06:07 PM
I can't think of any really disturbing scenes, but this one bothers me: In "Ali Baba Bunny", when Daffy Duck finds valuables, his greed forces Bugs Bunny back in to the hole in a nasty way.

Nelson
04-30-2002, 07:01 PM
Here are some more distrubing scenes.

At The Circus-Terrytoons "Mighty Mouse"
In one scene, when Mighty Mouse is fighting all of the circus lions, he grabs one of the lions and then slowly turns the lion inside out.

Winner By A Hare-Paramount "Tommy Tortoise & Moe Hare"
After Moe wins the race(after Moe bets his life savings to let Tommy win the big race) he pulls a a big gun and blows his brains out in a very slow graphic scene, as he slowly dies into his grave, until his ghost appears and pulls up the dirt to rest in peace.

song cycle
04-30-2002, 07:33 PM
I'm surprised no one mentioned Disney's 'El Terrible Troubador'.

In the last scene in that cartoon the matador reaches into the bull's throat and pulls it inside out before tossing the body into a heap. This gruesome gag really comes out of nowhere too.

DarthGonzo
04-30-2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH


Now if you want to talk modern disturbing examples, there's a Beavis and Butt-Head short in which Beavis gets a nosebleed, and for six minutes blood gouts out of his nostrils like a lawn sprinkler on the fritz! Those two are so much like my brothers it's frigging scary!

How about the episode where Beavis and Butt-head are in shop class and Beavis sticks his finger in the rotary saw and slices it off IN CLOSE UP! Very unnerving.

And theres the Simpson episode "A Tale of Two Springfields" where a badger attacks Homer. After that Homer lifts up his shirt to reveal the badger sliced open his stomach and all his organs are visible!! EWWWW!!!

Cartman
04-30-2002, 09:49 PM
In the Donald Duck cartoon Timber, there is a scene where Donald is struggling with a saw. He eventually falls over and lands on Pete. Donald is pulling the saw out of Pete's shirt so that it looks as though it is being pulled right out of his stomach.

Jason Furness
04-30-2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Jon Cooke


As for disturbing, as a kid I used to be a little bothered by the ending of "Tweet and Sour", where Sylvester says "What's the use? She'll never believe me..." then falling backwards into the violin case.



You too, huh?

One scene that disturbs me a little is toward the end of Bosko Shipwrecked . Here, he runs into a group of African Cartoon Cannibals (they all lool like Bosko but are taller). The big, fat Chief orders his lackey to bring Bosko to him. And off the lackey goes, walking like a gorrila! Even though the lackey, unlike the cannibals, was painted grey instead of pure black, it's difficult to tell for sure whether he really is a gorrila or not. This fact makes the scene look much more racist than it actually might be.

As far as violent disturbing scenes go, I'd like to mention the "Bitter End" of the Famous Studios Popeye cartoon Happy Birthdaze . I'm surprised no one's mentioned it! :p

Feslmogh
05-01-2002, 08:40 AM
For me "Pink Elephants on Parade" from Dumbo was one of them.
Another one is where Spike was killed in "Cowboy Beebop" I know I have others but I can't recall at the moment...

irwins
05-01-2002, 09:47 AM
Betty Boop's cartoon, Be Human, features a series of attacks on animals by a pretty violent fellow. This guy has some series aggression issues - during the cartoon he whips a dog that is tied up (shown above), punches a cow and wrings the neck of a live chicken. The man is taken to a rehab facility of sorts where he is repeatedly whipped for his violence towards animals. At the end of the day .... so what.....it is only a cartoon. By the way does Itcht and Scratchy from the Simpsons end the discussion !

frogboxer
05-01-2002, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Daffyfan2002
I don't remember that part and I've seen the cartoon a thousand times. Was that part edited on both WB and CN?
I guess it must have been. My copy is on one of the Columbia House videos.

Jack
05-01-2002, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Daffyfan2002
I think the most disturbing scene in a cartoon is in "Scaredy Cat" when Sylvester sees the mice carting off the other cat to be executed. It's really quite terrifying and you can definitely feel
for Sylvester. So did that cat get executed?
___________________________________________________
I don't remember that part and I've seen the cartoon a thousand times. Was that part edited on both WB and CN?
It's still there, it's one of the most memorable scenes in the cartoon. This is the scene, right?
http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/superrabbit/mice0011.jpg


Jack :D

sun
05-01-2002, 04:50 PM
There is a toon, called "Satan's Waiting." I saw it on October 12 l956. 3 days before I was due for some surgury..... I remember having nightmares about it as a kid, I was 10, and still remember it, even though it was really meant to be funny, I guess it just stuck in my mind....The last scene where the cat is on an esclater going down to hell, after using up his 9 lives...still kinda makes me feel lousey, and I am now 56 years old. Oh well. :confused: Stuart

rodney
05-01-2002, 04:54 PM
All suicide scenes and any scenes where characters are in hell (see Satan's Waitin' and Devil's Feud Cake) always disturbed me.

sun
05-01-2002, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by rodney
All suicide scenes and any scenes where characters are in hell (see Satan's Waitin' and Devil's Feud Cake) always disturbed me.


Thanks, it is good not to be alone on this one..Stuart ;)

J. J. Hunsecker
05-01-2002, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Pietro
What do you think was the most disturbing scene in a cartoon?


Good disturbing scenes:

The Bee-Deviled Bruin (WB 1949-Dir. Chuck Jones) -- The entire ending starting from where the father is stung by bees to when Junior thinks Papa is coming to punish him when he really wants the honey in the cabinet. An amazing drawing of Papa with his face swollen with bee stings! (Any of the Three Bears cartoons are disturbing for that matter.)

Chow Hound (WB 1949-Dir. Chuck Jones) -- the ending when that mean dog is bloated. "This time we didn't forget the gravy."

Fresh Airedale (WB 1945-Dir. Chuck Jones) -- Evil triumphs over good in this one. I remember that the ending upset me as a child.

Jones seems to have made a lot of dark and scary cartoons in the late forties. I wonder if this was the influence of Mike Maltese and later on Jones asserted himself more with cartoons such as the Pepe Le Pew series?

Bad or unintentionally disturbing scenes:

Anything from the Paramount Herman and Catnip cartoons. (I hated those as a kid.)

frogboxer
05-02-2002, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Jack

It's still there, it's one of the most memorable scenes in the cartoon. This is the scene, right?
http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/superrabbit/mice0011.jpg


Jack :D
Dat's de one!

Knothead
05-02-2002, 08:07 PM
Has anyone mentioned the scene where Tom is sent sailing downward with such force that he's SPLITTING A TREE IN TWO WITH HIS CROTCH? Which one is that, by the way?

As a kid I was always shook up with Tom pleading with Jerry to hurry and sign his certificate so he won't burn in hell, and the particularly fierce Devil/Spike in"Heaveny Puss".

Also there's "Mouse Trouble", where Tom's physical scars actually DON'T heal
between scenes, but carry over 'til the end of the short, where he's a total mess mentally and physically!

Daffyfan2002
05-02-2002, 10:15 PM
Thanks for posting that pic, Jack. Now I remember. I guess my vision just isn't what it used to be. Lol.

PlopKat
05-03-2002, 12:09 AM
Knothead wrote:
Has anyone mentioned the scene where Tom is sent sailing downward with such force that he's SPLITTING A TREE IN TWO WITH HIS CROTCH? Which one is that, by the way?


I believe that scene is in The Flying Cat.

-PlopKat

Der Captain
05-03-2002, 12:14 AM
I still recall the brief shot of the dead lion in the Popeye cartoon "Tops in the Big Top".

The ending of "The Two Mouseketeers" - disturbing and unforgettable.

The "Itchy and Scratchy" cartoons, which may have been inspired by an underground sicko comic book called "Squeaks the Mouse". You could laugh yourself sick!

song cycle
05-03-2002, 03:19 AM
Since people are citing modern cartoons, and it hasn't been mentioned before..

I remember being quite disturbed at a Ren and Stimpy episode dealing with a 'nerve ending fairy'. If I remember correctly Stimpy had lost his teeth but was still getting quarters from this fairy when she yanked out the nerve endings that existed where his teeth once did. Yuck!

J. J. Hunsecker
05-03-2002, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by song cycle
Since people are citing modern cartoons, and it hasn't been mentioned before..

I remember being quite disturbed at a Ren and Stimpy episode dealing with a 'nerve ending fairy'. If I remember correctly Stimpy had lost his teeth but was still getting quarters from this fairy when she yanked out the nerve endings that existed where his teeth once did. Yuck!

It was Ren who lost his teeth.

My favorite disturbing scene from a Ren & Stimpy episode was from Sven Hoek where Ren gets so angry at his cousin and Stimpy that he becomes psychotically calm as he relates all the horrible things he is going to do to them. "First, I gonna *riiiiip* your arms out of their sockets, that's what I'm gonna do."

Lucky Bob
05-03-2002, 07:11 AM
I've personally found every episode of "Blue's Clues" to be disturbing. Come on, you gotta wonder what Steve and Joe actually do for a living. They have to have the help of preschoolers to get on with their everyday lives!

Howard Fein
05-03-2002, 09:09 AM
CAPTAIN HAREBLOWER: While it's usually very satisfying to see Sam on the receiving end of explosions, this one overdoes it. After one point-blank encounter with a cannon, he crumbles into a fine ash! :eek: The exploision inside the fish is also rather gruesome, but tempered somewhat by the absurdity of a bomb staying lit underwater.

A BROKEN LEGHORN: First Foggy suffers the usual cartoon indignities while trying to get rid of the baby rooster. At the end, after having it out with 'the boss', he's put on a truck headed to the poultry farm :( ( from which he presumably escapes). Problem is, the original premise of the short was his good intention, i.e. trying to cheer up Prissy by giving her the egg that hatched into his rival in the first place!

PAPPY'S PUPPY: That layout painting- as opposed to an animation drawing- of a blown-up, very dead looking Sylvester (after not getting the stick of dynamite out of the doghouse fast enough) seems too gruesome to be funny.

ANT PASTED: In a scene long edited out by the networks, Elmer holds a bomb planted by the ants at arms' length. After the explosion, there's an extreme close-up of his badly charred arm in order to show his watch falling apart. (On a side note, Elmer seems miscast as a pyschopath intent on blowing up innocent insects- I could see Sam doing this, but not Elmer!)

SHAVING MUGGS: After Popeye suffers the standard 'face burned off onto the hot towel' bit, Brutus ties him in the chair, pours gasoline (in the guise of after-shave) and gunpowder (talcum) all over him, then uses the sailor's two hairs as a 'fuse'. This seems a bit extreme, even for Famous, and the fact that it involves two human characters makes it more so. Of course, the resulting explosion, while it destroys the barber shop, does no more than leave Popeye's uniform slightly tattered. ;)

LION IN THE ROAR: One of Famous' Noveltoons featuring a one-shot character. Louie the lion cub, who's trying to convince the other creatures he's king of the jungle, opens his mouth to roar. Another animal rolls Louie's tongue into position so that when he closes his mouth after roaring, he bits right into his tongue! :mad: Now THAT'S cruel!!

PIG IN A PICKLE (Lantz): Maw and Paw are trying to rescue Milford, their extremely intelligent pig, from a band of hungry hillbillies. After many unsuccessful attempts, they substitute TNT for Milford in the baking pan. The explosion destroys the cabin and leaves a pile of apparently dead hillbillies!

A 1984 made-for-syndie FAT ALBERT episode climaxes with the on-screen shooting death of a young boy who's trying to push his gang member brother (neither of who have been seen in any prior episode) out of the way. While neither blood nor the victim's face are seen, it's quite shocking, given the series' trademark blend of one-liners, sight gags and mild moralizing. This never would've made it onscreen during the CBS years!

One episode of Bakshi's Mighty Mouse revival, a hysterical parody of the Bagdasarian/Chipmunk legend, prominently features road-kill! :eek: 'Mashie' the pup, who's shown graphically flattened, (with deep tire treads) comes back to life to narrate the explanatory flashback. At the end, the pooch arrives in a pizza box :rolleyes: to deliver the moral "-and remember, kids, always look both ways before crossing the street." Amazing CBS allowed this in 1987! An early hint of Kriscfalusi's penchant for gross-out images that would be routine in cartoons ten years later, combined with Bakshi's normal morbidness.

While there's nothing visually disturbing in the Mindy & Buttons segments of ANIMANIACS, it IS very upsetting how the poor dog spends the whole episode trying to save his extremely annoying toddler charge from harm (while usually suffering the physical consequences himself) only to be reprimanded by his clueless 'parents' at the end! :mad: Could be a subliminal message that life isn't always fair, and that good intentions get punished more often than appreciated.

One TTA episode, WHEN YOU'RE HOT, makes a running gag out of the characters being exposed to fire. Beyond the usual temporary scorchings, Hamton is turned into a roast pig :eek:. Elmyra, after hugging a 'cute' flame to its explosive demise, is left bald and nearly naked- only her underwear remaining. :o Her horribly annoying personality does offer some satisfaction! :p

Tintin
05-03-2002, 11:10 AM
The Little Orphan (MGM, 1949) - The censored scene where Tom's tail where burn and next Tom where on complete burn. For see the pics, click here! (http://toonzone.net/looney/ltcuts/mgmcuts2.html)

Also on This is a Life?, the ending where Daffy say "You,re, you're, you're desssspicable!"

The Simpsons 138th episode Celebration - The lost scene of Halloween IV where a evil play on bowling with Homer's head (dooh!) :yakko:

Do-Do
05-03-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Martin Juneau

Also on This is a Life?, the ending where Daffy say "You,re, you're, you're desssspicable!"

Hm? How is this disturbing?

J. J. Hunsecker
05-03-2002, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by luckybob1985
I've personally found every episode of "Blue's Clues" to be disturbing. Come on, you gotta wonder what Steve and Joe actually do for a living. They have to have the help of preschoolers to get one with their everyday lives!

Hmmmm...yes. Also, what exactly did Mr. Rogers do for a living? Didn't anyone else find this guy a little...creepy? Barney always seemed a little bit fey to me, too. And don't get me started on those hophead Teletubbies!

Lucky Bob
05-04-2002, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by J. J. Hunsecker


Hmmmm...yes. Also, what exactly did Mr. Rogers do for a living? Didn't anyone else find this guy a little...creepy? Barney always seemed a little bit fey to me, too. And don't get me started on those hophead Teletubbies!

Well, nowadays, one could argue that Mr. Rogers is a retired guy who talks to kids. But with Blues Clues, we're talking about a guy (whichever one he may be) who spends a whole day of his life trying to find out that his dog wants a stool so she can brush her teeth. Oooookaaaaaayyy....

J. J. Hunsecker
05-04-2002, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by luckybob1985


Well, nowadays, one could argue that Mr. Rogers is a retired guy who talks to kids. But with Blues Clues, we're talking about a guy (whichever one he may be) who spends a whole day of his life trying to find out that his dog wants a stool so she can brush her teeth. Oooookaaaaaayyy....

That reminds me of the National Lampoon's radio show parody of Mr. Rogers called "Mister Roberts." It featured Christopher Guest as the kiddie show host. In one skit he is confronted by an angry parent who wants to know why Roberts hangs around with the neighborhood kids all day, and to keep his hands off of them. It captured what I always felt about Mr. Rogers.

The guy from Blues Clues, on the other hand, may just be retarded. He needs the other childrens' help because they are actually smarter than he is. The dog "brushing its teeth" may simply be a hallucinatory projection of the host's slow decent into insanity.

Pedophilia or Mental Retardation, take your pick.

Lucky Bob
05-04-2002, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by J. J. Hunsecker


That reminds me of the National Lampoon's radio show parody of Mr. Rogers called "Mister Roberts." It featured Christopher Guest as the kiddie show host. In one skit he is confronted by an angry parent who wants to know why Roberts hangs around with the neighborhood kids all day, and to keep his hands off of them. It captured what I always felt about Mr. Rogers.

The guy from Blues Clues, on the other hand, may just be retarded. He needs the other childrens' help because they are actually smarter than he is. The dog "brushing its teeth" may simply be a hallucinatory projection of the host's slow decent into insanity.

Pedophilia or Mental Retardation, take your pick.

He must have done SOMETHING right, he's going to "college". Which one, I wonder?

Hmmm, could it be Auburn U?

(Sorry! I'm an Alabama fan.)

Der Captain
05-04-2002, 05:17 PM
Don't forget one of the all-time disturbing cartoons - the "Scot Tenorman" episode of "South Park".
What other cartoon in history can boast the immortal line "Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah! I made you eat your parents!" Ambrose Bierce and the ancient Greek dramatists would have approved.

J. J. Hunsecker
05-04-2002, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Der Captain
Don't forget one of the all-time disturbing cartoons - the "Scot Tenorman" episode of "South Park".
What other cartoon in history can boast the immortal line "Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah! I made you eat your parents!" Ambrose Bierce and the ancient Greek dramatists would have approved.

That episode wasn't disturbing. That bratty kid got what he deserved! Hooray for Cartman!

Cartman
05-05-2002, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by J. J. Hunsecker


That episode wasn't disturbing. That bratty kid got what he deserved! Hooray for Cartman!

True, Scott Tenorman was a real jerk to Cartman, but did he really deserve to lose his parents (who had nothing to do with Cartman and Scott being enemies) for it?

J. J. Hunsecker
05-05-2002, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by Cartman


True, Scott Tenorman was a real jerk to Cartman, but did he really deserve to lose his parents (who had nothing to do with Cartman and Scott being enemies) for it?

Hey, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

Besides, what else would have really traumatized Scott? Not only does he have to deal with the loss of his parents and the thought that their remains were cursing through his digestive tract, but also with the guilt that he sent them to their doom because of his cowardice in facing that trained weewaw chomping pony. Very operatic and Shakespearian.

Der Captain
05-05-2002, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by J. J. Hunsecker


Hey, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

Besides, what else would have really traumatized Scott? Not only does he have to deal with the loss of his parents and the thought that their remains were cursing through his digestive tract, but also with the guilt that he sent them to their doom because of his cowardice in facing that trained weewaw chomping pony. Very operatic and Shakespearian.

It's a story with an important moral: Don't (expletive deleted) with Cartman! Aesop would also approve.

PorkyandDaffy
05-05-2002, 03:34 PM
On a side note, Elmer seems miscast as a pyschopath intent on blowing up innocent insects- I could see Sam doing this, but not Elmer!)

I think Fudd was miscast even worse as the Cupid in THE STUPID CUPID. What a odd, random role for him to play.

Davesnothere
05-07-2002, 12:56 AM
Song Of The Birds- (Paramount) Little Audrey shoots a baby bird out of flight with her B-B gun. The rest of the cartoon is a tough-to-endure, drawn-out sequence showcasing the mother bird mourning the baby's death, and the forest creatures performing a funeral. One of the most gruesome scenes is a close-up of the mother shaking the baby's lifeless body after the realization that he might be dead and crying "Waa-a-a-ake Upppp!!!"

I saw this one on WTBS' Slam-Bang-Theater only once in '79 and never forgot it. It's quite a shock when harsh reality is injected into a usually lighthearted (although violent and surreal!) format like the old Harveytoons. They painted themselves in a corner though: every Little Audrey had to end with her trademark laugh. If the cartoon ended with Audrey standing over a fledgling that still had exes for eyes and laughing joyously, there might have been riots at the theaters! Sooo.. the writers employed another classic Harveytoons element - THE CHEAP ENDING! The little bird wakes up, erasing any moral that might have been delivered by the last six minutes of pure angst and guilt. Audrey is back to square one with no harm done. I guess they couldn't allow their heroine to be shadowed with a murder rap the rest of the series!

Davesnothere
05-07-2002, 02:43 AM
In You Don't Know What You're Doing, the boss drunk is pulled over a telephone pole on his crotch, breaking off the steps (so many of them, and all on one side!) and taking more than a few splinters, no doubt! Lucky for him, he ingested generous amounts of liquid anesthetic beforehand, so he was feelin' no pain. That is, until he wakes up in the dump the next morning!

BlueAngelGal
05-07-2002, 03:18 AM
I saw one tonight that I hadn't thought about or really noticed before....in "Symphony in Slang," where he goes in to a tavern where the guys are "hanging around"....yeah, sure, there are guys doing armhangs and the like off flag poles, awnings, etc., but check out the guy in front on the left -- that's a noose he's hanging from, and the expression on his face is just a triffle too realistic, I think. Ugh *shudder*.

DR. BELCH
05-07-2002, 09:44 AM
DarthGonzo:
How about the episode where Beavis and Butt-head are in shop class and Beavis sticks his finger in the rotary saw and slices it off IN CLOSE UP! Very unnerving.
And theres the Simpson episode "A Tale of Two Springfields" where a badger attacks Homer. After that Homer lifts up his shirt to reveal the badger sliced open his stomach and all his organs are visible!! EWWWW!!!
To cross-reference finger-chopping and The Simpsons, there was the "Trilogy of Error" ep in which Marge accidentally whacks off Homer's thumb with a carving knife, sending blood spurting everywhere. If that isn't nasty enough, he wanders into Moe's a bit later, and the bartender gives him a pickle jar to preserve it in. We see said finger a while later, shriveled and discolored. That to me was a bit too gross, and imitatible. Would a finger that'd been soaking in pickle brine even be fit for reattachment? This being The South, land of firecracker and industrial machinery mishaps, I'm just waiting to see some poor bugger try that....

Lucky Bob
05-07-2002, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by DR. BELCH
This being The South, land of firecracker and industrial machinery mishaps, I'm just waiting to see some poor bugger try that....

As a very wise man once said, when you hear the words "Hey y'all, watch this!" get ready to run. Those might be the last words that person ever says.

Cartman
05-25-2002, 01:09 AM
Another disturbing scene in a South Park episode would be when the students take a field trip to the slaughterhouse in the veal episode. The owner opens the door to the veal room and we see the sad-looking calves chained up.

Daffyfan2002
05-25-2002, 08:55 AM
I have to agree with what PorkyandDaffy said about Fudd as the Stupid Cupid. The role didn't fit him at all. He was much better as the giant in "Beanstalk Bunny" and I agree with what Howard said about "Ant Pasted." The role would have worked better with Yosemite Sam instead of Elmer Fudd. After all, his only appearace without Bugs or Daffy is "Honey's Money." They could have made more cartoons like that. "Ooooh, ah hates them insect critters!"

angilbas
05-26-2002, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by Daffyfan2002
I have to agree with what PorkyandDaffy said about Fudd as the Stupid Cupid. The role didn't fit him at all. He was much better as the giant in "Beanstalk Bunny" and I agree with what Howard said about "Ant Pasted." The role would have worked better with Yosemite Sam instead of Elmer Fudd. After all, his only appearace without Bugs or Daffy is "Honey's Money." They could have made more cartoons like that. "Ooooh, ah hates them insect critters!"

"Ant Pasted" works well as a metaphor of man's war against insects thanks to the presence of Elmer, who has more of an 'everyman' quality than Sam. Consider ... when the cartoon was made, people thought that DDT and its chemical cousins would soon eliminate disease-carrying mosquitoes, permanently corral the gypsy moth and prevent fire ants from conquering the Deep South. All we had to do was drain the swamps, dig up the anthills and spray, spray, spray. But there was already evidence that the bugs were much tougher than they were given credit for...

-Tony

Davesnothere
05-26-2002, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Daffyfan2002
I have to agree with what PorkyandDaffy said about Fudd as the Stupid Cupid. The role didn't fit him at all. He was much better as the giant in "Beanstalk Bunny" and I agree with what Howard said about "Ant Pasted." The role would have worked better with Yosemite Sam instead of Elmer Fudd. After all, his only appearace without Bugs or Daffy is "Honey's Money." They could have made more cartoons like that. "Ooooh, ah hates them insect critters!"

Don't forget Confederate Honey!

Jack
05-26-2002, 11:47 AM
I never thought Fudd was wrong for Ant Pasted, people are usually very ruthless to insects. Stepping on them and putting a magnifying glass over them is probably just as bad as blowing them up with firecrackers (maybe even worse).


Jack :D

Sunset Girl
05-26-2002, 05:01 PM
"C'mon, Rover boy, let's go hunting!" That poor dog, thinking that he was going to be shot every two seconds! What was the name of that one, I haven't seen it in years! Warner Brothers w/ Elmer?

I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned the portrait in the background of Disney's Three Little Pigs. "Father?"

Or how about that Animaniacs episode where the Warners meet Hiskel and Eggbert? Yakko pumps the fat out of Eggbert's gut to butter the popcorn! That still grosses me out and I can't believe they got away with it.

And it's been years since I've seen it, so maybe my memory is wrong, but I recall a Slappy Squirrel cartoon that for some reason showed part of a squirrel "documentary." The squirrel was drawn somewhat realistically, and the narrator says something about how the sqirrels hide their nuts. Thus we see the squirrel grabbing his crotch. I don't know, maybe it wasn't intentional!

I found the Happy Helmet episode of Ren and Stimpy rather disturbing (yet it is one of my favorites of the series). Just the expression on Ren's face when he's pounding on the helmet he's wearing, trying to free himself of it. You can feel the battle going on in his head between "happy" and "angry." And of course, at the end, he thanks Stimpy for making him so angry, and he has that evil, maniacal laugh. I love that.

And as already mentioned in this thread, some of the Tom & Jerry's got to me when I was younger, especially Heavenly Puss: "C'mon Tom! Hit him and let's go!" And I remember turning rather somber watching Tom getting beheaded (off camera with no gag) and when Tom and Jerry are awaiting their demise on the RR tracks.

I see we haven't really mentioned any anime in here, but I thought I'd throw in eps. #45 & 46 of Sailor Moon when all of Usagi's friends are killed, one by one, and her [future] lover is brainwashed. He kicks her rather violently, strangles her, and attempts to cut off her head. When he finally comes to his senses, he dies in her arms from the attack of the villainess. You can hear Usagi screaming his name right before the commercial break. (Of course, all this is cut out of the American version). I probably cried the first ten time I'd watched it. :( It's downright disturbing.

~Well, that's it for now. . .

Karen (na otome no porishii)

Nelson
05-26-2002, 05:43 PM
I have many b&w Terrytoons shorts(with french subtitles) from the very first year of the studio and a couple 1930 releases I have are pretty gory and graphic and very surpirsed that Paul Terry made some violent cartoons in 1930.

Hawaiian Pineapple(1930) Has a mouse flying a plane right into a volcano and then the plane and the mouse are on fire.The mouse lies at the shore of the beach literally burning to death, until a female mouse comes to his rescue.OUCH!

Pigskin Capers(1930)possible title? takes place in WW1 and the battle scene is just gory and gruesome.One scene has a mouse getting his head shot off, while a bunch of soldiers get their heads blown off with blood spurting all over the place by machine gun fire.You guys have to see this to believe it!

Cartman
05-26-2002, 07:41 PM
I'm just curious, but by talking about these scenes, couldn't this lead to censorship? These threads can be viewed by anyone so a censor at one of these studios could see these and, well, you know what happens next.

DR. BELCH
05-26-2002, 08:09 PM
Sunset Girl:
"C'mon, Rover boy, let's go hunting!" That poor dog, thinking that he was going to be shot every two seconds!
That was Bob McKimson's "A Mutt in a Rut", 1959. He borrowed the wildcat-in-a-box gag from a Chuck Jones short a couple years earlier with Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog, incidentally.


Or how about that Animaniacs episode where the Warners meet Hiskel and Eggbert? Yakko pumps the fat out of Eggbert's gut to butter the popcorn! That still grosses me out and I can't believe they got away with it.
"Critical Condition"--but that was Slappy Squirrel, dear. Actually, what's even more disturbing than some of the cartoons is the questions my mother asks during them--like "How come the little dog wants to sniff the big dog so much?" in the short with Stinkbomb D. Basset and his grandson. ...*....

Cross-referencing Sunny's "Slappy Goes Walnuts" example: in the now-seldom aired TTA short with Prince Charles and Diana, watch the crooked butler after the cell door is knocked down and lands on top of him. He dances around for several seconds grabbing himself, face contorted with great pain. Guess where the doorknob hit him.... :eek:

Galaxia
05-27-2002, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Cartman
Another disturbing scene in a South Park episode would be when the students take a field trip to the slaughterhouse in the veal episode. The owner opens the door to the veal room and we see the sad-looking calves chained up.

That, and what happened to Stan after not eating any meat for a while...::shiver:: ::twitch::

kiddiesunshine
05-27-2002, 01:28 PM
there seems to be a disturbing trend in casper toons. it seems something either dies or almost dies. one such toon involves a young fox being shot and killed. he dies onscreen and casper buries him, then his spirit rises from the grave.

Sunset Girl
05-27-2002, 09:05 PM
< Snipped stuff about Hiskel and Eggbert and butter-lard (?!) popcorn >

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DR. BELCH
[B]


"--but that was Slappy Squirrel, dear."

[B/][QUOTE]

Oh! I guess I remembered the gag better than the cartoon itself. I probably haven't seen it since high school, and I graduated back in '94. . . god, I feel old sometimes. ;) And since we had only one TV at the time, I didn't get to watch it when I got a little older 'cuz my dad said I was "too old" for it.

I used to be so into Animaniacs that I actually memorized Yakko's World. No, seriously. I can still sing most of it. Scary, eh?

:yakko: ~Karen (na otome no porishii)

Galaxia
05-27-2002, 11:52 PM
that ain't scary - i can sing it too :)

Tom41
05-04-2003, 01:08 PM
I think "Kitten's Mittens" (Lantz) (I think that's what it's called) is rather disturbing in the scene where one of the cats is taken into the 3rd Degree Room. Although you see what's really going on (cigar, world globe and watch strap) the shilouettes cast by these (gun, beating and noose) - the kittens think that cat's going to get shot, beaten and hanged!

I have a tape of this cartoon recorded from TV in 1990, and uncensored. I guess the noose shadow would be removed if it were shown on TV now

Larry T
05-04-2003, 08:12 PM
It was missing from YTV's airing of the Woody Woodpecker Show from 1992 - 1998. Considering what YTV will go out on a limb to show, my guess is that is was cut from the TV package it was in.

Let's hope Columbia House leaves this cartoon alone, hey- It has a moral!!

Boy Wonder
05-05-2003, 03:45 PM
Snow White has dark elements, it even gave me nightmares!

absolutpaul
05-05-2003, 05:29 PM
Though it's not from a short, the scene in Sleeping Beauty - when the queen turns into a dragon - says, "And now you shall deal with me, Prince, and ALL THE POWERS OF HELL!"

That must have shocked a lot of viewers when it was first seen.

Jack
05-05-2003, 06:52 PM
Though it's not from a short, the scene in Sleeping Beauty - when the queen turns into a dragon - says, "And now you shall deal with me, Prince, and ALL THE POWERS OF HELL!"
I remember watching that movie when I was little and being shocked. I think it was the first time I'd ever heard a cartoon character say something like that.

I once read some old newspaper reviews of Sleeping Beauty that had been collected into a yearly film magazine (which had been collected into a book and bound). Half of the reviewers thought it was wonderful, and the other half said it was terrible childish dreck. Noone commented on the "Hell" quote, though.



Jack :bosko:

SNS
05-06-2003, 05:19 PM
Of course if that happened nowadays, there would be a lot of complaining from over protective parents.

Banned Bunny
05-06-2003, 07:44 PM
Most disturbing: The thought that Foghorn Leghorn just might be in there.

Cartman
05-08-2003, 12:34 AM
One scene that I find disturbing is in the Silly Symphony The Cat's Out where two anthropomorphic trees are hitting the cat. I also find it disturbing to see those ugly birds tormenting the cat.

barnyarddawg
05-08-2003, 10:50 AM
The Ren and Stimpy cartoon "The Cat That Laid the Golden Hairball" has some of the most puke inducing scenes you'll ever see. It features Stimpy licking hair off his body and coughing them up. When he runs out of hair, he licks Ren's hair, and when Ren runs out, he moves on to some hairy, goony looking guy. I like Ren and Stimpy, but I can't even watch that one.

Some other disturbing scenes in Ren and Stimpy:

In the one where they are wrestlers (I can't think of the title) Ren bites and pops a boil on one of the other wrestler's toe. I like that cartoon, but I have to turn my head on that scene.

Another one I don't know the title to, the guy with the pipe rubs Ren across his whiskers. The camera gets closer and closer, showing in gorier detail the guy's whiskers, zits and blemishes. Zits are popping as he runs Ren across his face, and the whole scene is accompanied by a jack hammer sound effect to accent the friction. The jack hammer is funny, but the zit popping is repulsive.

In Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen, Ren opens up a canteen, which is infested with bees. The bees proceed to sting Ren's tongue, for what seems like ten minutes, all in trademark close up, and with Ren screaming in agony. To cap the scene, a bee's stinger breaks off in Ren's tongue, and the bee smiles and leaves it there. This is a funny cartoon (the flying kilted croco-stimpys during the song is the best), but bee scene is cringe inducing.

candy17
05-08-2003, 03:33 PM
The Ren and Stimpy cartoon "The Cat That Laid the Golden Hairball" has some of the most puke inducing scenes you'll ever see. It features Stimpy licking hair off his body and coughing them up. When he runs out of hair, he licks Ren's hair, and when Ren runs out, he moves on to some hairy, goony looking guy. I like Ren and Stimpy, but I can't even watch that one.

Now that I remember that, I can't either.


Some other disturbing scenes in Ren and Stimpy:

In the one where they are wrestlers (I can't think of the title) Ren bites and pops a boil on one of the other wrestler's toe. I like that cartoon, but I have to turn my head on that scene.

I heard that a TV station in Australia cut that scene. Also cut was the end where Stimpy is yelling like a pro wrestler and his tongue rips off.


In Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen, Ren opens up a canteen, which is infested with bees. The bees proceed to sting Ren's tongue, for what seems like ten minutes, all in trademark close up, and with Ren screaming in agony. To cap the scene, a bee's stinger breaks off in Ren's tongue, and the bee smiles and leaves it there. This is a funny cartoon (the flying kilted croco-stimpys during the song is the best), but bee scene is cringe inducing.

Are you kidding? That bee scene is funny. I'd say a grosser scene than that would be when someone throws a colon with blood dripping from it in the air after that Canadian Kilted Yaksmen song. Yikes.

Anyway, in the world of classic toons, I've found the following disturbing:

-All of Tokio Jokio (funny cartoon, IMO, but very racist and unnerving)

-Charlie Dog yelling "Look! The towers! They're falling!" on "Often an Orphan" (I didn't find this disturbing until after the WTC fell)

-The scene in "For Scent-imental Reasons" where Pepe Le Pew points a gun to his head and walks away to "kill" himself. That was frightening and sad.

-This Disney cartoon called "Education for Death: The Making of A Nazi". I don't watch Disney, but I found this to be so chilling that I can't believe a company as wholesome and non-threatening as Disney could come up with this, even if it was WWII.

-The end of The Ducksters where...
Daffy is near the saw blade and about to be killed

And that's it.

cabe624
05-08-2003, 07:16 PM
I think the most disturbing cartoon I've ever seen has to be "Angel Puss" from Chuck Jones. It's so dark and unfunny... and the ending was very erie. I know this has been discussed before, but Lou Lilly had a big impact on the way the cartoon turned out. The cartoon is almost unbearable!

isabel
05-09-2003, 10:51 AM
What do you think was the most disturbing scene in a cartoon?
Here are some of mine:
"Steamboat Willie": When Mickey plays with the mother pig's t**ts

"Opening Night": In this Van Beuren Cubby the Bear cartoon, the image of the dead animal body parts lying on the ground was always distrubing.

-Pietro

I'M A BIG FAN OF CHUCK JONES :) AND I ADMIRE HIS TALENTS ESPECIALLY HIS ANIMATION TECHNIQUES.BUT I'M JUST REALLY CURIOUS.DOES ANYBODY NOTICES IN JONES' CARTOONS FEATURING THE THREE BEARS (WHAT'S BREWIN BRUIN? (1948) THE BEE DEVILED BRUIN (1949 FOR EXAMPLE) THAT THERE ARE DEFINITE SCENES OF PHYSICAL CHILD ABUSE?PAPA BEAR (HENRY) INFLICTS SUCH UNSPEAKABLE BEATINGS ON BABY BEAR (JUNIOR) WHENEVER HE GETS INTO TROUBLE WHICH IS THE REASON WHY JUNIOR SHOWS SIGNS OF A MENTALLY CHALLENGED CHILD BEAR.I ENJOY WATCHING THESE CARTOONS AND THEY ARE ONE OF MY PERSONAL FAVORITES BUT STILL THE INFLICTIONS AND SCENES OF ABUSE IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE THREE BEARS' EPISODES ARE QUITE DISTURBING

Steve Carras
05-09-2003, 11:46 PM
I'M A BIG FAN OF CHUCK JONES :) AND I ADMIRE HIS TALENTS ESPECIALLY HIS ANIMATION TECHNIQUES.BUT I'M JUST REALLY CURIOUS.DOES ANYBODY NOTICES IN JONES' CARTOONS FEATURING THE THREE BEARS (WHAT'S BREWIN BRUIN? (1948) THE BEE DEVILED BRUIN (1949 FOR EXAMPLE) THAT THERE ARE DEFINITE SCENES OF PHYSICAL CHILD ABUSE?PAPA BEAR (HENRY) INFLICTS SUCH UNSPEAKABLE BEATINGS ON BABY BEAR (JUNIOR) WHENEVER HE GETS INTO TROUBLE WHICH IS THE REASON WHY JUNIOR SHOWS SIGNS OF A MENTALLY CHALLENGED CHILD BEAR.I ENJOY WATCHING THESE CARTOONS AND THEY ARE ONE OF MY PERSONAL FAVORITES BUT STILL THE INFLICTIONS AND SCENES OF ABUSE IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE THREE BEARS' EPISODES ARE QUITE DISTURBING
Yeah I agree, but there aree funny moments in them.

ALso Junyer's FINALLY screaming and crying after TAKING it in THE BEE-DEVILLED BRUIN (May 1949) and BEAR FEAT (December 1949) take the ccake, good Stan Freberg voice though.

For Chuck Jones cafre cartoons WITHOUT that abuse and that are fun /
Fresh Airedale (REGARDLESS of what one feels one way or the other about that ending) and CHOW HOUND, definitely.That has a censored picaninny scene.The mous ein this and several others had an odd Mel Blance falsetto.In fact the voice work is pretty eclectic, which goes for a number of my favorites at Warner Bros.,most of which ALSO in volve household pets and animals around the house (like mice nad outdoor birds). Mel Blanc does a old man (top Chuck Jones animator Ken Harris) in the mouse's first scene-the cat has no voice at the end until he has a Charlei Dog/Bugs Bunny like voice by Mel. John T.Smith btw is the voice of the dog, Bea Benaderet does the housewife (NOT the male zookeeper!) and the zookeeper, heard sveral times, sounds somewhat like Disney legend Sterling Holloway regardless of WHO'S doing the voice. (Sounded like Mr.Holloway dubbed actor Frank Lackteen in a 1949 Stooges Columbia live short, MALICE IN THE PALACE, directed by Jules White, as a briefly apparing palace guard,maybe due to the actual actor having a foreign accent. Walker Edmiston, Shep Menkn and others have dubbed live actors-Paul Frees and June Foray have made a living out of this--a Judy Holliday and Dean Martin classic THE BELLS ARE RINGING has Shep Menken, June Foray and PauL Frees dubbing onscreen actors so maybe that IS Holloway in the aforementioned Stooges short. ). Very impressive technicolor night settings and backgrounds by (I think) Peter Alvrado and Phil DeGuard. Unfortauntely later Jones cartoons overindulged in this,..,his Hubie and Bertie short THE HYPO-CHONDRI-CAT (April 15,1950) is also a gem with a bizzare surrel nightmare and head-games, courtesy of Hubie and Bertie (who also frighten Claude Cat into having said nightmare in the first palce,causing him to faint--I won't even put a spoiler).

And of course LUMBER JACK RABBIT is scary, but only in the beginning.:D

Tintin
05-09-2003, 11:56 PM
That's the Tom and Jerry short "Mouse Trouble" (1944). The scene where Jerry pick up Tom by the right eye was very bleeding (this scene was also appear in "Jerry's Diary")

"Scaredy Cat" (1948) and "Hyde and Hare" (1955) was very scary and disturbing: 1) In "Scaredy Cat" are death, suicide, noosing 2) The ending of "Hyde and Hare" were Bugs returned in park transform in a monster has scarred

The Crow sketch of the Simpsons Halloween Special 1 was a very greedy spooky short episode

The Silver Fox
05-15-2003, 06:16 AM
most disturbing, any ren and stimpy cartoon, the 80's remake epsodes of the Jetsons (the parts shown were George gets it from Mr. Spacely were teriable, as were some of the other sight gags)
Any epsode of a pup named scooby doo (were the producers of this bad show at this time on waky weed, this incrarnation of the show sure showed it, and the show was not very funny dont knwo why it lasted 2 yrs on the air)
sigh gags from t & J filmations epsodes, some were pretty violent.
mtv animated shows (B and B, and Celeberty deathmatch)
King of the Hill epsode were bobby on riedlin
Gummi bears episode were toady learns why you should were a seat belt (he is thrown into a rock formations and looks like he bit his touge off)

popeye epsode (not sure of the name) were popeye at a rodeo (the color one) eats his spinich and it turns out to be locol weed, or MJ, and is having visions.

also Buckaroo Bugs painful scene, were (and unknown) red hot ryder pulls from his pants that club that 4 feet bigger then him.

Cartman
05-15-2003, 11:42 AM
One scene I find disturbing is in the Bosko cartoon The Booze Hangs High when the pig regurgitates the corn cob.

The Silver Fox
05-15-2003, 01:02 PM
another one, were Slyvester is on a boat and tweety gets him sea sick
were he just makes it to the side to lose his cookies.

Cartman
05-15-2003, 02:36 PM
another one, were Slyvester is on a boat and tweety gets him sea sick
were he just makes it to the side to lose his cookies.

That was Tweety's S.O.S.

rodney
05-15-2003, 03:11 PM
A similar gag happened with Daffy and Speedy in Go Away Stowaway. Why is that disturbing though?

The Silver Fox
05-15-2003, 04:28 PM
If your not crazy about seeing someone hurl, they that would be disturbing.
South park's parts like this are being overused more i noticed again.

Yankey doodle Mouse (I think this is the title of the toon) you see
a very painful scene were Jerry drive a jeap made of a cheese grader and roller skate, right under and between Tom's legs (OUCH!!).

Steve Carras
05-15-2003, 05:35 PM
One of Chuck Jones's very last good shorts is noted for this as the whole content--CHOW HOUND.That bulldog (voice by John T.Smith) yelling at that por cat--"Whewre's THe Gravy" and variants thereof.The REAL sick, but poetically JUST ending is when both the cat and the intermittenly seen mouse (with the Mel Blanc falsetto) shows and the cat says in the Blanc Bugs Bunny/Charlie Dog voice.."THIS time we DIDN'T FOR-GET the GRA-A-AY-VEEEE"..then they pour a whole VAT of the gravy down the dog's throat! (He's overeaten after FINALLY buying meat and a store and he's now hospitaltized at the vet's!) Ver---rrry justified!!!!!!(If you've ever seen this cartoon from 1951 by Warners you will KNOW why it's justifiable what happens to that dog! It's been discussed her before!)

Inciendentally it wasn't CHuck Jones so much as Michael Maltese (his primary writer), who's responble here-he had a tough NYC,New York upbringin g,this also shows up in the somewhatmore disturbing Three Bears, and as well as in always hilarious Hubie and Bertie as well as in other's Maltese-wrotten cartoons.(Mike Barrier's book mentions this.)

Paul Penna
05-16-2003, 12:18 AM
One scene I find disturbing is in the Bosko cartoon The Booze Hangs High when the pig regurgitates the corn cob.

One of my favorite cartoon gags. Now if it had been the slimy, partially-digested remains of a corn cob, that'd be different. The fact that it's whole and pristine is what makes the gag, IMO.

Paul Penna
05-16-2003, 12:32 AM
I think Fudd was miscast even worse as the Cupid in THE STUPID CUPID. What a odd, random role for him to play.

Well, there's miscasting and there's playing against type. Maybe it can be a fine line, but the latter, when done right, can work marvelously well. I've seen "The Stupid Cupid" uncountable times over the past four and then some decades, and I've always thought the Fudd-like cupid to be a scream. It's interesting to compare this character to Elmer in Hare Remover," also by Tashlin. There's a lot of the devilish imp in him there, too.

rodney
05-16-2003, 09:06 AM
Yankey doodle Mouse (I think this is the title of the toon) you see
a very painful scene were Jerry drive a jeap made of a cheese grader and roller skate, right under and between Tom's legs (OUCH!!).

Ouch indeed, but I always found that hilarious. I know, I'm weird.

shadejford
07-20-2003, 09:09 PM
Thanks, it is good not to be alone on this one..Stuart ;)
One of my guilty pleasures is watching cartoons dealing with Hell. However, Famous produced one that even disturbed me. It's called MUTT IN A RUT and it about a dog named Dogface who is literally kicked into Hell by an angel-dog and is then tormented and tortured by fanged cat-like devils. The angel-dog laughs evily after he kicks the poor dog into Hell.

nakak
07-20-2003, 09:29 PM
although not violent, there was this one "Private SNAFU" cartoon "A Lecture On Camouflage" where in the end, we saw two topless chicks. That's really unexpected in the 1940s cartoon.

Steve Carras
07-21-2003, 12:23 AM
One of my guilty pleasures is watching cartoons dealing with Hell. However, Famous produced one that even disturbed me. It's called MUTT IN A RUT and it about a dog named Dogface who is literally kicked into Hell by an angel-dog and is then tormented and tortured by fanged cat-like devils. The angel-dog laughs evily after he kicks the poor dog into Hell.
That's the Warners short, though, "Oh WOVER BOy" (sounds like one of Arthur Q.Bryan's VERY was Fudd voces, wight before PERSON TO BUNNY-died in 1959).

Cartman
07-21-2003, 04:19 PM
Another disturbin cartoon scene I can think of is in the "South Park" episode IT HITS THE FAN where the people puke their guts out because of a strange disease (which made life s**tty for everyone :D ).

nakak
07-21-2003, 07:50 PM
how 'bout "The Inspector" episode "Transylvenia Mania" where the vampire scientist shows his idiot assistant a monster, with a hole in his head.

Pietro
07-21-2003, 10:38 PM
Whoa, this thread is WAY old!

If you guys really enjoy this topic, you should create a whole new thread instead of digging up an old one. Especially since this one has been dug up before :shame: And besides, this thread is already three years old (or will be anyway)

I agree that it's fun to discuss your favorite disturbing scenes (Mickey playing with pig's teats, Woody and the meat grinder, Stimpy's hairballs, etc.) but not with this old thread.

-Pietro:crow:

RKillian
07-21-2003, 10:50 PM
Another disturbin cartoon scene I can think of is in the "South Park" episode IT HITS THE FAN where the people puke their guts out because of a strange disease (which made life s**tty for everyone :D ).

Or the episode where Cartman poops in reverse.

The only other scene I recall actually gasping at occurred in the Batman Beyond episode where Ras Al Ghul returns. Bruce or Terry overhears Ras' voice in the next room and barges in demanding to know where he is. Talia turns around and says "Oh, he's right here... Detective" or something similar with the last word in Ras' voice. Definitely creepy.

Terry: Disgusting.
Bruce: That's nothing, he kissed _me_.

Steve Carras
07-22-2003, 12:04 AM
FOUR WORDS:


Don't...forget..the GRAVY!!!!!!!!





Now playing: Bob Clampett's (the king of cartoons) Dishonest John trying to total Davey Crickett.1962.