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Maxie Zeus
09-15-2001, 04:03 PM
The following is some excerpts from today's NY Times (link (http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/16/national/16HOLL.html) requires registration) on how Hollywood is already changing its film strategy in the wake of the attack:

"Scratching Violence for Family Fare and Patriotism"

By BERNARD WEINRAUB

HOLLYWOOD, Sept. 15 — In response to the terrorist attacks in New York and at the Pentagon on Tuesday, television and film executives say movies involving terrorism, explosions, hijackings and the kind of jokey violence popular in the films of the 1990's will be rapidly replaced by patriotic stories, family dramas touching on parents and children and escapist comedies.

"You don't want to hear anything right now that's a dark, gritty drama," said Dana Walden, president of 20th Century Fox Television, which produces 24 current series, more than any other studio. "A lot of people will be looking for blue skies and escapist dramas and programs as an alternative to the realities that all of us are dealing with now and for years to come."

Similarly, Ed Gernon, executive vice president of movies and mini- series for Alliance Atlantis, a prominent television film and mini-series producer, said: "We see entertainment now as much more wholesome, where movies reinforce American values and family and community. We are definitely moving into a kinder, gentler time."

To many writers, directors and executives, the deadliest terrorist attack on the United States will have the same impact on the nation's culture — and how people want to be entertained — as such times in history as World War II and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, when the nation became entranced with family entertainment that had little relevance to their lives: films like "Mary Poppins" and "The Sound of Music" and television shows like "Gilligan's Island" and "The Munsters."

NBC and ABC said that in some ways it was simply too early for detailed assessments about the future. Scott Sassa, the president of NBC West Coast, said: "Right now we're trying to figure out the balance between news and entertainment. In this atmosphere, I don't think anybody should be making decisions about what should and shouldn't be developed."

Lloyd Braun, co-chairman of the ABC Entertainment Television Group, said, "Conventional wisdom would tell you with the passing of time we revert to our old television habits." But Mr. Braun added: "The postwar generation has never been traumatized like this. It's all new territory."

For some time, executives and directors said, films and television programs involving terrorism and explosions and threats to civilians are out of the question. For example, a five-hour "Law and Order" mini- series scheduled for May about a biological warfare attack in New York has been canceled, one of numerous television and feature films that are being dropped, delayed or remade because of the terrorist attacks. A reference to the Islamic militant Osama bin Laden in a new CBS drama about the C.I.A., "The Agency" has been removed.

Even comedies are affected. "Greg the Bunny," a new midseason show on Fox set backstage at a children's show, had a passing reference to a suicide bomber. "The joke went in on Friday," said Steve Levitan, one of the creators. "We saw it on Wednesday, and we were horrified. We pulled it right out."

Some of the most successful producers seem uncertain about how to proceed.

Brian Grazer, a producer of hits including "Apollo 13" and "Liar, Liar," said: "I have one or two projects that I won't talk about and won't make now. They're arenas I just don't want to be in." One of these arenas, Mr. Grazer said, is "anything that involves explosions, anything where a person's life is at stake."

"I think every mainstream producer and director and studio and television executive will be very cautious about entering into a world where people's lives are in jeopardy," he said. "I think people will look toward more escapism, more comedies, more dramas about family love. I don't think people will want to make movies with a hard R rating or one of those movies that were made in the 1980's and 90's."

And Walter Parkes, co-head of the motion picture unit at DreamWorks, said that in this atmosphere he would have shied from making films like "The Peacemaker" (1997), about a nuclear threat to New York, and "Deep Impact" (1998), about a comet hurtling to Earth and destroying cities.

Mr. Parkes is also a producer of "Men in Black 2," the ending of which initially took place at the base of the World Trade Center and will now, he said, be shifted to the Chrysler Building. Another movie he is producing, "The Time Machine," initially ended with shards of the moon falling on New York. The finale is being changed.

Several executives and producers warned against overreaction to the terrorist attack. Like numerous others, Sherry Lansing, chairwoman of the Paramount Motion Picture Group, said it was difficult to work and make decisions because of the enormity of the tragedy.

"Everybody's emotions are so raw," Ms. Lansing said. But she said that it would be dishonest to avoid depicting violence in films. "We can't just show the pretty side of life," Ms. Lansing said. "That's unrealistic. Violence is part of the world. But it's our responsibility not to trivialize violence, not to glamorize violence, not to make it look cartoony."

To many in Hollywood, the mood is a throwback to other wrenching and traumatic times like World War II, when the most successful films were as remote as possible from the battlefield. Americans surged to films like "National Velvet," "Meet Me in St. Louis," "Going My Way," "Woman of the Year," "The Postman Always Rings Twice" and "Now Voyager." In the mid-60's, after the assassination of President Kennedy, the nation favored often highly entertaining spectacles and escapist movies like "The Sound of Music," "Doctor Zhivago," "Goldfinger," and "Mary Poppins."

Television was even more escapist.

As David Kissinger, president of the USA Television Production Group, which makes "Law and Order" and other series, said: "We are in the midst of an unfolding shift because of the horror and the level of trauma of what happened. There was a period of total escapism on TV after J.F.K.'s death — `Gilligan's Island,' `I Dream of Jeanie,' `The Munsters,' `Bewitched.' That's what we see now. There's an enormous volume of material that would have been interesting to us on Monday that would be unthinkable today."

Whether films and television mirror the culture or lead it remains a mystery. In recent years, the proliferation of violence in the nation, including the raft of school shootings, has fueled criticism of Hollywood and resulted in scattered — critics say halfhearted — efforts by studios and networks to curtail displays of mayhem that were popular in films from the late 1980's to the mid-1990's.

The stars of many of these films, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone and Steven Seagal, have seen their careers decline. Mr. Schwarzenegger's newest film, "Collateral Damage," about a fireman seeking justice after his family is killed in a terrorist attack, was set to be released on Oct. 5, and has been postponed indefinitely.

Meanwhile, television and film directors and writers are scrambling to remove any reminder of the terrorist acts from their shows and movies. Darren Star, creator of HBO's "Sex and the City," about single women in New York, said editors were reviewing episodes to make sure that no glimpses of the World Trade Center were visible.

"You feel a certain amount of irrelevance about what you do for a living in a situation like this," Mr. Star said. "It's hard to think about entertainment."

BourgeoisBuffoon
09-15-2001, 04:11 PM
Eh, it's nice to see them trying to be respectful of what's happened. I for one know that I don't want to see something violent right now...I just hope we don't go TO far in all these "escapist" movies...then it goes to sappy.

Ouch. Poor Swarzennager...another blow to him. I wonder how he's going to get through...

Maxie Zeus
09-15-2001, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by BourgeoisBuffoon
Eh, it's nice to see them trying to be respectful of what's happened. I for one know that I don't want to see something violent right now...I just hope we don't go TO far in all these "escapist" movies...then it goes to sappy.

Ouch. Poor Swarzennager...another blow to him. I wonder how he's going to get through...

I dunno. Maybe this would be the perfect time for him to run for political office.

BourgeoisBuffoon
09-15-2001, 04:21 PM
SAID BY MAXIE ZUES: I dunno. Maybe this would be the perfect time for him to run for political office.

(shudders) We already have a superjock as Minnesota's governer....and then another one in an office? In that case, I think I'll skip out on the election that year! :D

....And do you think he has a idea of poitics? Because TIME once ran an article saying he might run for a governer position! :eek:

Maxie Zeus
09-15-2001, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by BourgeoisBuffoon

....And do you think he has a idea of poitics? Because TIME once ran an article saying he might run for a governer position! :eek:

He is very active in Republican circles (think about what get togethers with his wife's family must be like!:D ), and was seriously considering a run as Cal guv, until Premiere started printing rumors about extra-marital affairs he's had.

The Mad Hatter
09-15-2001, 05:21 PM
Hm, very interesting reasoning as to why we got so many fluffy TV shows in the 60s.

And while I agree it'll be a while before we can watch gritty terrorist dramas again without wincing, I just hope Hollywood doesn't go TOO overboard with escapism and make everything brainless. Then again, this is Hollywood we're talking about...

Maxie Zeus
09-15-2001, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
And while I agree it'll be a while before we can watch gritty terrorist dramas again without wincing, I just hope Hollywood doesn't go TOO overboard with escapism and make everything brainless. Then again, this is Hollywood we're talking about...

Like it wasn't brainless before? ;)

Personally, I would be quite happy not to get any more shoot-em-ups for awhile. My biggest worry is that, since that's all Hollywood knows how to make any more, we'll get a lot of REALLY lame and badly-written movies.

Trying to imagine ID4, or MummyReturns, or Pearl Harbor, but without the action scenes: *Simpson's shudder*

BourgeoisBuffoon
09-15-2001, 05:55 PM
Would this be a bad time to mention that I LIKE all that boring stuff in between ID4's action (only one I've seen)? I didn't call my self boring for nothing. ;)


SAID BY MAXIE ZEUS: My biggest worry is that, since that's all Hollywood knows how to make any more, we'll get a lot of REALLY lame and badly-written movies.


Eh, it could take a coupla tries, but maybe Hollywood could learn to make good, non-action movies ala how it's mastered "violent shoot-em-up"...
(B.B. starts to chuckle, then goes down and guffaws on the floor)

YEAH RIGHT! Naw, but really, maybe we could see some gems that don't need action to be succesful...no matter how unlikely it seems.

Leaping Larry Jojo
09-15-2001, 05:56 PM
Not to offend, but I've watched quite a few violent movies lately (Goodfellas yesterday) and it didn't bother me too much. One part of it is that in movies, my mind still tells me that what is happening is actually simulated, and the other part is that subconsciously, I refuse to let a bunch of terrorists halt my lifestyle and limit my freedom.

But, just my opinion. I understand this decision and I understand everyone else's hesitance to watch anything too violent in the next few weeks.

But, the 1940s produced a lot of exciting dramas while not offending people with very graphic scenes.

happyheathen
09-15-2001, 10:22 PM
oh, come on...

not one little molotov for old time's sake?

coming up:

Gilligan's Island w/Swarzennager as the skipper

Green Acres - Falwell plays arnold

(maybe there's a reason why psychotropic drugs were so popular in the 60's...)

Maxie Zeus
09-16-2001, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by happyheathen
coming up:

Gilligan's Island w/Swarzennager as the skipper


LOL!