Reviews: "Reign: The Conqueror" - Week Two [2/17- 2/20] [Archive]

RedBoot

02-18-2003, 12:31 AM

Good episode...Yoda guy was rather silly, but the stuff he said was interesting...

Did the voice cast change? When Olympias spoke in the flashback about halfway through, I could have sworn the voice sounded like Wendee Lee. Then as I watched the credits, it turns out that the voice was indeed Wendee Lee. I'm pretty sure she wasn't doing the voice in the previous episodes. King Philip was credited to John Smallberries, and I'm pretty sure he was being done by John DiMaggio before. I'm not sure about the other voices, though they sounded the same...

Sheamon

02-18-2003, 12:37 AM

Heard Anthony Mozdy in there too as one of the Athens Council Members, am pleasantly surprised to see multiple Animaze regulars in it :D

Anyway, this episode wasn't as good as the last couple of ones, but still at a high level of quality. Didn't particularly care for the 'Yoda Guy' though
Grade: A-

SirLemming

02-18-2003, 12:40 AM

I also noticed that some voices sounded different, and some names in the credits were unfamiliar. Alexander's cohorts seemed to have different voices... I didn't notice Wendee Lee!!

This is one of those episodes -- and every series has them -- that I wouldn't use to get someone started on the show. It's a set-up for something more exciting...

Rikou

02-18-2003, 01:12 AM

Darnit! Without school, I completely forgot it was a weekday and I missed it! Anyone feel like giving a short synopsis for the idiot who forgot?

JTurner954

02-18-2003, 01:23 AM

Monday's episode: Once again it looks like the show went back to the "set up for something later" stages that brought the show down from being good. After a stronger Thursday episode, this wasn't the best idea. Here are some things that I noticed while watching the episode:

First, there's a woman who looks like Mick Jagger. Now there's a fat dwarf/midget that looks like Marlon Brando (probably a homage to Marc Antony). At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see Steven Tyler in a future episode singing "Dude Looks Like A Lady".

This is the first time where I saw soldiers fight on their toes. I know "Stay on your toes" means be careful but I never expected people to take that saying literally during battle.

I did not enjoy the "I'm a boy because I have nipples" designs with the children. In fact, the adults have to be the oldest looking young people I've ever seen in an anime.

"My unborn child will kill you" from the queen and "He is unapproachable" from Dyagonis (more on him in a little bit) were funny since it sounded so fake in the delivery.

I find it both ironic and funny that the people who want to overthrow Alexander are the only people who wear pants.

My favorite character so far is Dyagonis, the guy that speaks like Yoda. He's bored and tries to knock some sense into Alexander and the rest of the people (no wonder he lives in a town where people wear pants): relates to how I'm feeling.

I liked the "blocking the sun" line and I liked the dog transformation with the red hat still on. Oh, and did I mention that he lives in a barrel?? If they show more of him, I'll really start liking this show.

Best of all: No more snake orgy.

If this show was a dark comedy and not suppose to be taken seriously, I would give it a good grade. But since that isn't the case, my grade remains the same.

Overall grade: D+

Nik Jam

02-18-2003, 03:32 AM

seemed faster than usual, had alot of cool stuff, better than the earlier ones. A

Sir Gatts

02-18-2003, 03:43 AM

Freaky episode, but not because of the animation or voice acting, but because of how they exactly portray Diogenes as told from my highschool history classes. :eek: http://fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~blissa/diogenes.html I had to look up some information from the net to be certain and there you'll see it.

Will Sturnick

02-18-2003, 07:31 AM

This episode was al right, like others I noticed a bunch of Animaze VA's. This episode was definitely setting up for something else.

Act V: God of Creation: 88%

Michael

02-18-2003, 01:55 PM

twas an *ok* epsiode, i liked Yoda guy heh

JetMaster5

02-18-2003, 02:04 PM

The insane Socrates is truely wise enough for me to love this episode.

The whole "blocking the sun" and then later was explained by what Diogenes truely meant by it (Diogenes wanted sun, Alexander knows there's nothing that can replace sun).

Sango

02-18-2003, 02:45 PM

Hey, how come all of you guys got to learn this stuff in school? My teachers probably don't even know who Alexander the Great was. :p

Sir Gatts, thanks for posting that link! I found it interesting. =)

Nin-Nin69

02-18-2003, 04:06 PM

I've finally got the chance to watch this show and I'm very impressed with it by far. And they sure get away with a lot more stuff then I though they would. I look foward to tonights episode. BTW whats this "snake orgy" you were barking about?

Who da Man? Yoda Man! :p

The Xenos

02-18-2003, 05:25 PM

Hey! Next person who brings up that stupid Yoda commertial is dog food !

Oh and speaking of dogs, the guy's dog form reminded my roomate of thee dog from Jo Jo's Bizzare Adventure, an obscure anime I doubt many know of.

So far, the show's been pretty good. I've seen a little Aeon Flux and rather liked it. Cheung's style is a bit different, but I don't dislike it. I've picking up little thingsd that i know about the actual Alexander here and there. Really cool reinterpretation of history.

Also, i was going to bring this up in the "Is Peter Cheung gay?" thread and maybe give it some direction, but it got closed. I've heard people claim that Aleander was gay or bisexual. I was wondering if this is why some got this impression and if they were trying to give this.

Of course the thing that stuck out to me more and what was disturbing was the possible incestual overtones with him and his mom. Though maybe it's just that she's nuts.

-Xenos

Rikou

02-18-2003, 07:28 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is all ancient greek history, correct? Well we know for a fact that they had a totally different view of gay/bisexuality, so that should take care of that question right there. He may very well have been, but I don't see that coming up in this series (and if it does, so much for the better. :D )

But yeah, the mom thing was really scary.

Masamune2052

02-18-2003, 07:32 PM

Well this was a pretty cool episode. This one was more of a character and foreshadowing episode because it explained more about Alexander, his past and more importantly his destiny. It also showed that other nations (or rather, nations with pants) want to eliminate Alexander obviously because he is very powerful. And finally....Yoda! I loved this character and my favorite part of the whole episode wasn't that he was a dog, literally, but his wisdom:
You should fear for your life!
I have a question for you, is you King a good man or a bad man?
Well, he's a good man of course.
Tell me then, why should I fear a good man?
That was pretty good. I can't wait to see how the rest of this series plays out.

Andrew T. Hingson

02-18-2003, 08:09 PM

This is the strangest show I think I have ever seen... and I've watched EVA!!!!

I will not watch it again...

JustJack

02-18-2003, 08:44 PM

This was my first chance at seeing it, and I'm glad Peter Chung hasn't lost his touch since the glory days of Aeon Flux(HELL YEAH!). And since we wont be getting Aeon Flux...this'll be good enough. Animation and overall style rocks. And the story is friggin intelegent...as well as people getting chopped in half. Yummy.

But seriously...the whole thong thing doesn't bother me as it clearly does most of the males around here. (I laugh at you, with my security! MWAHAHAHA!) But the thing is...this is war. And in war...you wear pants. I mean...they've got some big open area's to be stabbed through...that's just stupid planning. Unless he's trying to prove something by "I'm running around without pants, and you still can't get a hit off me"....

either way...pants would be more logical. But...whatever floats his boat. I never complained about Aeon Flux never having pants...I guess there's no need to complain now.

Midou Ban

02-19-2003, 12:07 AM

Did the voice of aristotle change?

Sango

02-19-2003, 12:24 AM

I was wondering that, too...

Rikou

02-19-2003, 12:25 AM

Hmm. Did tonight's episode seem a little hard to follow to anyone else? Maybe it's because I missed the one last night...

Midou Ban

02-19-2003, 12:30 AM

I thought it was kinda hard to follow as well, but I missed a few minutes in the beginning and the middle. I had to keep my rabbit from pooping on my floor....

Amano Ginji

02-19-2003, 12:33 AM

That guy who challenged Cli-tus(censor) sounded like the guy who did Jet.

*Kicks self for not remembering name*

edit: Beau Billingslea

Thanks SirLemming.

SirLemming

02-19-2003, 12:33 AM

Hard to follow? Yeah, kinda. But it was overall more interesting than last night's episode. At this point, I am kinda wondering what happened to that girl that Philip ditched Olympias for... But they did finally refer back to the girl at the pool. Is it me, or did they show more in the flashback than they did originally? Was that shot ever in that first encounter -- but edited out?

The voice cast changes irked me a bit. They're not noticeably less skilled, just... different. But I'm sure I'll get over it. I noticed Melissa Williamson was in this one -- she's Edward from Cowboy Bebop, right? I also thought Beau Billingslea was here as that guy who rode in and fought what's-his-name (sorry, I'm really bad with names in this show) with javelins, but apparently not... unless I just missed it in the credits.

Will Sturnick

02-19-2003, 12:33 AM

An Okay episode, I liked it better than last nights. This definitely was a set-up episode. With the Pythagoreas cult members infiltrating the Macedonian Army and the Assault on Persia.

Act VI: The Secret of Samotrace: 90

ICYC, I know the whole "Act ?" isn't apart of the title but it seems better than writing 6.

Originally posted by Midou Ban
Did the voice of aristotle change?

I seems like between episodes 4 and 5 the dubbing group switched to Animaze, that or they were the same the whole time.

Amano Ginji

02-19-2003, 12:36 AM

But they did finally refer back to the girl at the pool. Is it me, or did they show more in the flashback than they did originally? Was that shot ever in that first encounter -- but edited out?

Yeah, they didn't show that scene in episode 3.

JTurner954

02-19-2003, 01:52 AM

Tuesday's episode: This episode was another step in the wrong direction. Once again, they are setting up something while the episode moves at a VERY slow pace.The Yoda guy from yesterday so far has the most character development (I hope he returns) while everyone else walks and talks in the same boring tone. The skin fetish lady returns ("I love the smell of his skin") so maybe more of her will help the payoff of the show improve. Some random thoughts:

I hope they explain why there's a city spaceship in every opening.

Speaking of payoffs, I hope there is one with this blood ritual with the man in the one-eyed horsehead and the naked people
dancing around.

The snakes return. Well at least she isn't having sex with them again. Oh wait, they're crawling all over her.

Ok, there's a Jewish star engraved on a mountain (or wall), these clothed hooded people drop a bunch of pebbles, they form into a pyramid, and then the people magically fly away. Yep, Reign's weirdness continues.

The dwarf clowns return and the two men are surprised to know that "they understood our language?" Do they know that they can understand them because they are speaking IN ENGLISH?

"That woman is a witch". Really? What gave it away? Could it be the snakes or the outrageous outbursts?

The battle on horseback sequence was nice. She takes the weapon from her opponent, breaks it, while Alexander claims her the loser because the weapon is broken....... Umm, she removes her helmet to reveal that she's a woman and the people are shocked?? So her big breasts and clothing weren't a dead giveaway? After all, the women wear more clothing than the men so it should be a dead giveaway.

The Yoda-like guy really needs to come back and continue to knock some sense into these people. Oh well, he probably yawned and went to sleep (I don't blame him).

Overall grade: D

If the show moved at a faster pace, it would improve.

DarthNuriko

02-19-2003, 02:36 AM

The Yoda guy kinda put me off for a minute. But the concensous on him is right, he has more character than many of the regulars on the show. What I really wanna know is why the voice cast changed.

thedigitalsin

02-19-2003, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by SirLemming
Hard to follow? Yeah, kinda. But it was overall more interesting than last night's episode. At this point, I am kinda wondering what happened to that girl that Philip ditched Olympias for... But they did finally refer back to the girl at the pool. Is it me, or did they show more in the flashback than they did originally? Was that shot ever in that first encounter -- but edited out?

The voice cast changes irked me a bit. They're not noticeably less skilled, just... different. But I'm sure I'll get over it. I noticed Melissa Williamson was in this one -- she's Edward from Cowboy Bebop, right? I also thought Beau Billingslea was here as that guy who rode in and fought what's-his-name (sorry, I'm really bad with names in this show) with javelins, but apparently not... unless I just missed it in the credits.

1. Melissa Williamson voiced Julia and Twinkle Maria Murdock in Bebop, as well as two minor characters. Also, it sounds like she's been in Reign the entire time, voicing Cassandra from the start.

2. I believe the dub went non-union - some actors stayed and used aliases, others left due to union rules (John DiMaggio, Julia DeMita), and had to be replaced.

helen855244

02-19-2003, 05:34 AM

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Sir Gatts

02-19-2003, 05:56 AM

Tuesday: The secret ceremony, oh dear. Uh... I've read about this before in one of my favorite mangas. It's a pity that so much was left out in today's episode. Lets just say that there's a bit more to it than dancing.

The tall bald fat guard is back again yet in this episode we see him ponder over the events of Alexander's father's assassination and Alexander's mother's prophecy. The question now lies whether this man will play out later as an foe towards Alexander or not. Yet is is told that Alexander has hired spies for use on his own empire. For that if Alexander were to learn of this man's possible betrayal, it would be expected that this action would place this man's fate upon Alexander's hands.

The later scenes which involve Alexander's army help to continue the plot of the conquer theme and helps to set up the beginning theme of the next episode. I'll give this episode an eight out of ten rating.

G1Ravage

02-19-2003, 11:38 AM

Dammit! Michael Scott Ryan is gone! :mad:

Michael

02-19-2003, 02:12 PM

it was an ok epsiode, but it was more of a tease, here is a secret...........but we wont tell u what it is

Masamune2052

02-19-2003, 06:29 PM

I like the character designs, but dude, that one guy has a big pair of man ****....

Will Sturnick

02-19-2003, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by Michael
it was an ok epsiode, but it was more of a tease, here is a secret...........but we wont tell u what it is

I think the secret was "She's a witch". Which isn't exactly information we couldn't have figured out on our own.

Vekou

02-20-2003, 12:02 AM

Aye, the "Insane Socrates" sounds way too much like Yoda.

Haven't gotten a chance to watch episode 6 yet.

EightOh

02-20-2003, 12:16 AM

"The Pyramid in Memphis."

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/custom_avatars/avatar699_57.gif

Damn right! ;)

Midou Ban

02-20-2003, 12:26 AM

Can someone give me a summary of this episode? I seem to have missed it.

Rikou

02-20-2003, 12:26 AM

*blink*

Well, tonight's episode sure was interesting. I think Philotus is most definitely under the influence of mind-altering narcotics, that little dream of his was nothing short of a freaky pipe-dream. Well, more like a pipe-nightmare. Either that, or he's got a very vivd, overactive imagination.

And can someone tell me how an army of 500 million can "suddenly appear?" I mean, really.

Amano Ginji

02-20-2003, 12:26 AM

that was just weird....................... :confused:

*wonders what those little green monsters were*

Amano Ginji

02-20-2003, 12:27 AM

it said 500k

EightOh

02-20-2003, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by Midou Ban
Can someone give me a summary of this episode? I seem to have missed it. I seemed to have missed it, too, and I just watched it. :eek:

Can someone hook me up with the drugs the creators of Reign are on? Wow. What on earth was up with that dream sequence/bad trip Philotus had?

As incomprehensible(at times) and just flat-out strange this series is, I'm loving it. We're now over halfway through, and I both can't wait for and dread seeing its conclusion.

Amano Ginji

02-20-2003, 12:37 AM

*Still wonders who/what those little green monsters were*

Vekou

02-20-2003, 12:38 AM

Can someone tell me why episodes 2-4 were rated "TV-14S"? S stands for sexual content. I noticed none. Unless you count the overused scene of the snake wrapping itself around Alexander's mother "sexual content"... nah. That's weird, but I wouldn't think it merits an "S" for the rating.

Also, why didn't episode 2 get a "V?" There were limbs sliced off, decapitations, soldiers being impaled/stabbed through the throat, and blood spraying everywhere.

SirLemming

02-20-2003, 12:40 AM

Yeah, 500,000. The guy said it was 10 times the size of Macedon's army, and that's historically accurate -- I was reading my Alexander the Great report from 10th grade, and his army was always somewhere around 47,000.

Anyway, I thought this was a really great episode. It was interesting and done with lots of style. I like how they didn't spend 10 minutes telling you what just happened. A typical anime would have taken at least a minute with everyone going "WHA? He just-- he cut the knot!" And if it was Dragonball Z, it would take about 26 episodes -- twice the length of the entire series -- just to friggin' look at the knot.
Also, the crazy stuff Philotas was remembering before he (almost) died was done with barely a word spoken. It was a cool way of showing us the secret. They could have explained it all last night, but instead they kept it a mystery and then used it to create drama. Philotas almost died, keeping the secret not only from everyone in the show but also from the audience! The fact that the flashback popped up right at this moment emphasized that.

And finally... MAN, that was some of the most testosterone-pumpin' violence ever to grace CN! I particularly loved the part where someone stabbed a Persion with a 3-pronged spear, then sliced his head off! Adding... well, injury to injury.
Not to mention Darius' biggest fan...

Oh, and finally there's a significant FEMALE character who wears a thong... :D

Amano Ginji

02-20-2003, 12:40 AM

Episode 3 had the nekkid woman in the water.

They blurred and cut alot of that scene.

JTurner954

02-20-2003, 12:42 AM

Wednesday's episode: This episode took a step FORWARD and showed some more character development which was started on Monday with the Yoda-type character (I still hope he returns). This episode also improved the series by having a payoff with the knot, advancing a story with characters, and the battle sequence instead of having a setup to something later in a future episode like episodes 1-4 did.

The only thing that I could of done without are the two main things that I have a problem with in regards to this series (and no, it is not the quality of animation):

1. The volume is still too low at times. Since this show uses dialogue often, it is difficult to follow the story when many of the characters speak in the same tone. It would be nice if Cartoon Network supplied closed captioning so no one would get lost along the wayor get a volume jolt when the sound level changes.

2. Tonight's episode did this at the end, but it wasn't as bad: The images that seem to be bizarre just to be bizarre. I didn't like the soldiers who formed as caterpillars and attacked or the end scene with the giant frog-like creatures who break out of a shell and start eating a person. Like the queen and the snakes and the blood ritual and other scenes, they just a big "?" instead of focusing on the story (and the characters). Today's episode didn't focus on memorizing images and that is a big plus.

Overall grade: C- If more episodes like this continue, this could be an ok/good show. So far it seemed to have a very rocky start so I would be quite impressed if it kept its current momentum.

Kaiser0120

02-20-2003, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by JTurner954
Tuesday's episode: This episode was another step in the wrong direction. Once again, they are setting up something while the episode moves at a VERY slow pace.The Yoda guy from yesterday so far has the most character development (I hope he returns) while everyone else walks and talks in the same boring tone. The skin fetish lady returns ("I love the smell of his skin") so maybe more of her will help the payoff of the show improve. Some random thoughts:

I hope they explain why there's a city spaceship in every opening.

Speaking of payoffs, I hope there is one with this blood ritual with the man in the one-eyed horsehead and the naked people
dancing around.

The snakes return. Well at least she isn't having sex with them again. Oh wait, they're crawling all over her.

Ok, there's a Jewish star engraved on a mountain (or wall), these clothed hooded people drop a bunch of pebbles, they form into a pyramid, and then the people magically fly away. Yep, Reign's weirdness continues.

The dwarf clowns return and the two men are surprised to know that "they understood our language?" Do they know that they can understand them because they are speaking IN ENGLISH?

Hey, I was just as surprised as anyone. o.o I thought they were basically mute, or were so... off that they never learned the language.

"That woman is a witch". Really? What gave it away? Could it be the snakes or the outrageous outbursts?

Those higher up in stature were known to have such pets, if I'm correct. And people could of just thought her wierd. ^.^

The battle on horseback sequence was nice. She takes the weapon from her opponent, breaks it, while Alexander claims her the loser because the weapon is broken....... Umm, she removes her helmet to reveal that she's a woman and the people are shocked?? So her big breasts and clothing weren't a dead giveaway? After all, the women wear more clothing than the men so it should be a dead giveaway.

It MAY have just been that they were surprised at how beautiful the woman was.

The Yoda-like guy really needs to come back and continue to knock some sense into these people. Oh well, he probably yawned and went to sleep (I don't blame him).

Yoda dude= Teh awesome. ^.^ And don't be so harsh on the series, now.

Overall grade: D

If the show moved at a faster pace, it would improve.

Rikou

02-20-2003, 12:53 AM

Ah yes, my bad, 500,000. The writing on my hand smudged (yeah, I even wrote it down so I wouldn't forget, and then screwed it up. :rolleyes: )

Personally I think the little green things are Leela (from Futurama) and Gollum (from LotR)'s love child. But that's just me.

Amano Ginji

02-20-2003, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Rikou

Personally I think the little green things are Leela (from Futurama) and Gollum (from LotR)'s love child. But that's just me.

heh...

Will Sturnick

02-20-2003, 01:22 AM

A good episode. When they first mentioned the Gordian Knot I thought "why doesn't someone just cut it?" and sure enough Alex did. Darius seems to be a little too arrogant. I'm betting Macedon will be better prepared for Persia next time. Philotus' near death experience was a good away to reveal the secret of Samotrace.

Act VII - The Gordian Knot: 94%

Zach Logan

02-20-2003, 01:29 AM

I like the King of Persia, hes much cooler, and has one of the best character designs in the series

Good episode overall as we finally learn some of the secrets behind the series and a whos on whos side...

Sir Gatts

02-20-2003, 06:01 AM

Wednesday: The plot seems to have jumped to an single track within this episode. Yet the plot does continue the conqueror theme but at an far greater pace than I had anticipated. The knot scene to me seemed rather pointless though the battle that later followed helped to keep things interesting. Overall for this episode - 6/10.

Chris Wood

02-20-2003, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by SirLemming
I like how they didn't spend 10 minutes telling you what just happened. A typical anime would have taken at least a minute with everyone going "WHA? He just-- he cut the knot!" And if it was Dragonball Z, it would take about 26 episodes -- twice the length of the entire series -- just to friggin' look at the knot.

HaHaHa!!! Good one. You reminded me of another reason why series like DBZ are so incredibly boring.

Michael

02-20-2003, 02:14 PM

i was thinking same thing: 'cut the freakin thing, sing the riddels syas unravel it, but didnt say u can't cutt it"

decent epsiode...

Infinity Blade

02-20-2003, 03:36 PM

Me: *as I watched the episode* Y'know, were I Alex, I'd just take my sword and-
*Alexander whips out his blade and cuts the knot*
Me: .........wow, a show that actually goes with the most logical answer to something like that. That's new. o_o

Kaiser0120

02-20-2003, 06:21 PM

I remember reading out this in ancient greek. I knew he'd do it. And it was good. ^.^

Sango

02-20-2003, 07:28 PM

Yeah, it wasn't a surprise to me that he did it because I had already read about it in one of my books. But it was surprising that they didn't all stand there for 10 minutes gasping in wonder at what he'd done. :D

Rikou

02-20-2003, 07:33 PM

Honestly, the thought to cut the damn thing never even entered my mind. :( I suppose I'm just slow.

I was expecting him to give a little tug on one piece and for it to all fall to the floor. I like the whole chop, chop thing better, though. :D

Amano Ginji

02-21-2003, 12:27 AM

Wow, another great episode.

9/10

^Shortest.Review.EVAR.^

EightOh

02-21-2003, 12:31 AM

Sometimes, certain episodes of certain shows give me a euphoric feeling that makes me want to jump up and down, revelling in the sheer joy of having witnessed it. I don't know why, but it's rare, and the most recent example I can think of is a Lain episode. For some reason, I absolutely loved this episode, and for several minutes following the end of it, I just sort of kept repeating to myself, "that was AWESOME." I can't really even put into words why I enjoyed this one in particular so much, but I did.

Was Alexander's little trip to the future-Alexandria simply a vision, or was it a more tangible experience that actually occured? I'm pretty sure it was the former, but it was so vivid... well, I guess we'll find out.

Or not. You never know with this show. :)

Sango

02-21-2003, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by EightOh
For some reason, I absolutely loved this episode, and for several minutes following the end of it, I just sort of kept repeating to myself, "that was AWESOME." I can't really even put into words why I enjoyed this one in particular so much, but I did.

Yeah, I was kinda feeling the same way afterwards. I really didn't think I'd be enjoying this show so much... :eek: It keeps getting more interesting each episode.

uhhuhioi

02-21-2003, 12:48 AM

Tonights episode was really good. It's a nice breath of fresh air to have a show like this to give people a break from the fast-paced, low plot shows. I'm really curious why he didn't want Alexender to touch the stone. He called it a seal, so what was it sealing?

Can't wait untill Monday, but it's too bad it only has 13 episodes. Makes me feel like I'm going through the whole Big O thing again :D .

SirLemming

02-21-2003, 12:49 AM

Same here. I'm not sure what to say about it, because it was kind of confusing, but in a good way.

I'd like to point out that CGI was used very well here. It makes sense how the architect was drawing things out, and then Alexander's visualization was rendered in CGI. It's like the flat shapes were coming to reality, but it makes sense that they wouldn't look detailed and... know what I mean? And the way the whole freaky Pythagoras place was rendered makes sense 'cuz it's, you know, mathematical 'n junk.

JTurner954

02-21-2003, 01:22 AM

Thursday's episode: Once again, this episode took another step FORWARD and advanced the story and characters. They even decided to avoid the bizarre images and once again stay to the story and develop characters (which I wish happened during the first week). It's nice to see that there were some things explained like the city in the beginning (though why is it still floating like a spaceship?), but I was a bit disappointed that it was one of those "it was just a dream" scenarios (though maybe it was a vision for the future). It is starting to interest me so I will of course keep watching.

A couple of questions though:

1. Who is Alexandria?? The episode had the name in the title, but I do not recall the name being mentioned.

2. Is this anime? First I hear it is, then it's isn't, or someone isn't sure. What is the official word on that?

Overall grade: C (very close to a C+).

After a very rocky start, this show is getting better. I have the feeling that the people who hated the show in the beginning and stopped watching would start liking the show if they kept watching.

Arde

02-21-2003, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by uhhuhioi
I'm really curious why he didn't want Alexender to touch the stone. He called it a seal, so what was it sealing?
I think the thieves mentioned that the seal was used by the first king to seal the great king (Alexander). So what will releasing the seal do then to Alexander? And who's this first king?

Can't wait untill Monday, but it's too bad it only has 13 episodes. Makes me feel like I'm going through the whole Big O thing again :D . Now that you mentioned that, I wish AS would show the first 13 eps of Big O 1 before showing the eps of Big O 2...it's been awhile... and the series isn't exactly easy on the plot.

Kaiser0120

02-21-2003, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by JTurner954

1. Who is Alexandria?? The episode had the name in the title, but I do not recall the name being mentioned.

How foolish you are. ^.^ Alexandria isn't a person. It's the city. Dinocraties really built that city, just the real one isn't nearly as bitc*in' as the one we just saw in Reign. ^.^

Sir Gatts

02-21-2003, 07:42 AM

Thursday: Good episode yet Alexander's vision kept me wondering where the stories time line were positioned. And though all this time pertaining Alexander's adventure within this episode, I was expecting Alexander to look upon his own expired self. Though the turned down expectation didn't keep this from being an overall good episode since the plot kept on track of Alexander's great treasure. Yet as this series progresses, it seems that Alexander is in search for those who can help to complete his desired goals.

Episode overall 8.5/10.

Will Sturnick

02-21-2003, 10:29 AM

An okay episode. I expect things to pick next week, with 5 episodes left I wonder how it'll end.

Act VIII: Here Shall Stand Alexandria: 90%

Michael

02-21-2003, 02:08 PM

i liked it last night! I liked getting to see that futuistic city. taht was kewl!

raykremer

02-21-2003, 02:51 PM

I don't dislike this show at all, but nothing about it makes me like it either. I find it clichéd and they seem to go for freakish just for the sake of being freakish. Ah well, at least everyone else is getting something out of it.

D.Shaffer

02-21-2003, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Arde
I think the thieves mentioned that the seal was used by the first king to seal the great king (Alexander). So what will releasing the seal do then to Alexander? And who's this first king?
The First King would be Ptolemy. He starts a line of 'kings' who rule Egypt for quite a while. Cleopatra was one of his decendants.

Is it me, or have we not actually seen Ptolemy FIGHT yet. :)

Opaque

02-22-2003, 02:49 AM

I'll say that the show is getting better... but Act VIII was a little to confusing...

JetMaster5

02-22-2003, 01:58 PM

I'm a bit confused. How was it that Alexander was able to see into the future from the past? It seemed too real for that to be just a vision or a dream. Samething goes with Philotus. How was it that he's able to see the Secret Ceremony when he wasn't even there? That's was too real to be a dream.

It's interesting to see the little devices Dinocrates made were somewhat more advance than the technological devices we have right now (Seriously, a bird that could fly by itself just by winding it up. We never have that!)

Rikou

02-23-2003, 02:40 AM

I found something interesting. Now interesting enough for its own thread, however, so I'll just post it up here since there was a slight discussion of Alexander's sexuality earlier in this thread.

I took a test on Rum And Monkey, Which Famous Homosexual Are You? (http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/tests/homosexual/index.php), and funnily enough I got Alexander the Great. It said

"How spiffing! You're Alexander the Great!

Yeah, baby. You were the King of Macedonia, and conqueror of much of the world; you're responsible for the spread of Christianity, as well as Hellenistic society and even the Roman Empire. Your power was feared for thousands of miles around.

And how gay were you. When you'd conquered Persia, you fell in love with a male courtier from that court - scandalous in those days, because the Persians were believed to be uncivilised barbarians.

You were always really in love with your boyhood friend, Hephaestion, and when he died you were grief-stricken to a legendary degree: convinced that he would live on after death, you passed away soon afterwards."

I'm sure it's not the most reliable source in the world, I just found it interesting and thought I'd share.

And can anyone tell me which one is Hephaestion? (Once again, we REALLY need a character list.)