It's Officlal, Madonna Is A Communist

[mbaker]

Madonna is going to make an anti-war music video that intends to really stick it to Bush, and his war efforts. Hey Madonna, If you were to do A concert in Afganistan, you would be required by Taliban law to always ware A robe the whole time. Both onstage, and off. Covering your precious body from any kind of exposure you desire, and if you refuse to ware it, they'll shoot you on sight. Do you want to live in A country where your forced to be covered up in A robe for life, or do you want to live in America, where you can walk butt naked in public? If you want to continue to show off you sexy (and aging) body to your fans, I'd suggest you support Bush, and the war on terrorism! Click here to read the artical.

http://www.news24.com/News24/Entertainment/Abroad/0,6119,2-1225-1243_1318755,00.html

[Lucky Bob]

While I don't think she's a Communist, I will say that she's one weird person. I've lost interest in her from day one.

44 and still trying to do the "vixen" thing, though...that's just wrong. She's married!

[Outlander00]

Originally posted by mbaker
Madonna is going to make an anti-war music video that intends to really stick it to Bush, and his war efforts. Hey Madonna, If you were to do A concert in Afganistan, you would be required by Taliban law to always ware A robe the whole time. Both onstage, and off. Covering your precious body from any kind of exposure you desire, and if you refuse to ware it, they'll shoot you on sight. Do you want to live in A country where your forced to be covered up in A robe for life, or do you want to live in America, where you can walk butt naked in public? If you want to continue to show off you sexy (and aging) body to your fans, I'd suggest you support Bush, and the war on terrorism! Click here to read the artical.

Just remember, mabaker... Freedom of speech and expression :p

Luckybob is right, though... She has always been a little, well... off.

[Andy Mancini]

Madanna's not a commie, just a shallow idiot. She abandoned music years ago for something even better: being famous, ala Andy Warhol. He did the same thing.

[Arkangel]

Communism has nothing to do with opposing the war on Iraq. That's just stupid, an anachronistic insult left over from the Cold War when anything that went against the US was branded communist.

I fully support Madonna's dissent and I dissent myself. We both have the right and the duty not to sit idly by when the government embarks on a war we disagree with. Luckily there is a First Amendment in this country that protects us from overzealous "patriots" who would silence anyone who deosn't agree with them.

Not to mention it's ridiculous to think that any Islamic country could ever invade the US or force us to conform to their religion. No Islamic country has the means to conquer the US. None of them even have a navy. What are they going to do, swim over here? Please. The US has enough nuclear weaponry to annihilate the Muslim world a million times over. No Muslim country poses any threat to the continued existence of this nation.

[Nightflower]

I agree. What does communism have to do with anything? Jeebus.

[TimTwoFace]

Hey, I still openly think a war against Iraq is pointless at this point, and I'm definitely not a communist. (In theory it works, though! IN THEORY.)

That said, I could care less what Madonna says or does, too. I've never thought of her as a great role model, diva, or even a good entertainer. Admittedly she has a few songs to her credit that I don't mind, but everything else she touches, from movies to music videos to certain books, is just trash.

However, at the same time, you can't deny the fact that she is a "big celebrity", and I think it's good to see more celebs and sports figures (ie, Steve Nash) letting their opinions be heard about issues like Iraq, whether they're for it or against it.

-Tim

[The Landstander]

just because madonna opposed a stupid war based on personal gain doesn't make her a communist.

she still sucks though.

[mbaker]

Okay, maybe I went too far. Still won't change my opinion on her.

[joshualane]

Originally posted by mbaker
Okay, maybe I went A little too far. Still won't change my opinion on her.

A little...? If you want to insult Madonna, that's fine, but please don't insult those that appose the war by calling them communists.

[Failure]

Originally posted by joshualane
A little...? If you want to insult Madonna, that's fine, but please don't insult those that appose the war by calling them communists.

Communists have feelings too. :)

[James]

Originally posted by Failure
Communists have feelings too. :)

No that's the just Russian propaganda... ;)

Funny. I expected more pop stars to start grabbing airtime and making a statement one way or another regarding the imminent possible maybe war.

I support her feelings. I sit on the fence myself hoping we can avoid one. I imagine her opinion will ruffle as many feathers... but then, any publicity is good publicity...

[Isondill]

Excuse me, she's not a communist.

...and by the way...


I'm pretty sure she knows what it's like in Afganistan. She's a feminist. I'm a feminist. I know all about it.

I'd say she's probablly not against the US stopping terrorists, but that she's against Bush's way of dealing with issues concerning Iraq and the terrible war which could take place.

Also, what exactly makes how women get treated in Afganistan related to war with Iraq? I dont see anything which links them.

Hell, blame the American people for not even caring about women if you want to get angry at someone about it. Not that many here give a care about it, or are concerned with it.

Hell, we were more worried over Stone Statues than the Women in Afganistan! :mad:

[Fiona]

Originally posted by Anime Toonami
Excuse me, she's not a communist.

...and by the way...


I'm pretty sure she knows what it's like in Afganistan. She's a feminist. I'm a feminist. I know all about it.

I'd say she's probablly not against the US stopping terrorists, but that she's against Bush's way of dealing with issues concerning Iraq and the terrible war which could take place.

Also, what exactly makes how women get treated in Afganistan related to war with Iraq? I dont see anything which links them.

Hell, blame the American people for not even caring about women if you want to get angry at someone about it. Not that many here give a care about it, or are concerned with it.

Hell, we were more worried over Stone Statues than the Women in Afganistan! :mad:

Right on!

And honestly who cares what Madonna does in a Music video. If you don't like it, don't watch it! Simple as that...

[finbarlafume]

There's nothing wrong with being anti-war. In fact, I seriously hope everyone is anti-war. War should only be fought as a genuinely last case scenario - for otherwise the human race has no future. I loathe the 'gung ho' mentality where war is encouraged with no consideration given to the thousands of innocents who'll be murdered in the process.

[The Guitar Slayer]

Some of the nicest people I've ever met were communists...Wavy Gravy and the Hog Farm, anybody?

[crickets]

Oh, well.

Definition of communism: A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members

In short, everybody shares everything, and everyone contributes their talents for the good of all. To get from a capitalistic state (like the US) to a communist state, there is an in-between area of socialism. This is where the government controls everything until everything is evenly divided. However, when the leaders of the state get greedy, that's when it turns into the mess that was the USSR. It never got to true communism; it got stuck in limbo.

This has been your political fact of the day.

[Damien]

Thankyou, Guitar Slayer. I was just about to ask them if they knew what communist even meant, but it seems you beat me to it. BTW, awesome song you quoted in your sig.

Arkangel, I must point out though, that this war has nothing to do with religion. Don't fall for that "We wage war against the Americans in the name of Ala" crap. Islam, like most religions, is about peace. If they wanted to spread their relgion, they would be focusing on the rest of the world as much as they are on us.

Anyway, to get back to ENTERTAINMENT, I frankly don't care what Madonna does. Much like Michael Jackson, she died in the early 90s. (Okay, fine, I liked "Frozen". I'm a closet "Frozen" fan. "Die Another Day" wasn't half bad, either, but I didn't know it was Madonna at first.)
Why am I here? I don't watch music videos, anyway.

[Arkangel]

Originally posted by Damien
Arkangel, I must point out though, that this war has nothing to do with religion. Don't fall for that "We wage war against the Americans in the name of Ala" crap. Islam, like most religions, is about peace. If they wanted to spread their relgion, they would be focusing on the rest of the world as much as they are on us.

I know this war has nothing to do with religion. I was responding to mbaker's original post which implied that anti-war people (Madonna specifically) are somehow facilitating the conquest of the West by Islam. Either that or it was implying that the war is morally justified in order to free the people of the Middle East from their Muslim leaders. I disagree with both positions.

[Anthonynotes]

Well, I oppose the war too, but I'm not a communist...

Re: Madonna: stopped paying much attention to her years ago...though I liked the "Beautiful Stranger" song she made a few years ago...

-B.

[Zechs]

I must be a communist since I don''t want to go to war. I thhink Madonna has a right to her veiws. I don't think she's a communist
just because she's aginst war. Their are a lotta peopel who don't want a war to happen here in the states. War cost money and more importatnly it cost lives. People want to avoid blood shead as much as thay can. This world is already messed up as it is all we need is another war to screw it up even more.

[Leaping Larry Jojo]

Communism is a concept, like "democracy" or "globalization." It can be used either way by those in power. It is neither good nor bad, just a concept. And this topic has nothing to do with communism.

As for Madonna speaking up, well, good for her. I'm not a big Madonna fan, but nobody said people can't have opinions.

[Captain Caps]

No, I don't think she is.

If you think she's a Commie, you'll have to think everyone opposed to this thing is a Commie.

Freedom of speech and all (Believe me, I'm still in the learning process on this one myself)...

For the record, I'm an independent and I don't really give a hoot about politics.

If you want to debate Madonna's music in terms of danceabilty, I can do that.

Other than that, I just don't care.

Sincerely,

John Kilduff...

Just listened to a CD of some early work she did with a German dance group. Picture the Material Girl and Kraftwerk teaming up, and you've got a good idea of what it sounds like.

[mbaker]

What upsets me is the fact that some celeberties think that just because they appeared in A movie, or did music album, they're automatically political experts reguardless of how much they know.

[Outlander00]

Originally posted by mbaker
What upsets me is the fact that some celeberties think that just because they appeared in A movie, or did music album, they're automatically political experts reguardless of how much they know.

No, they use their noteriety to promote their views of the world... Streisand is a perfect example.

And why not? Sometimes it helps and sometimes it doesnt, like Streisand. If you are known to the public, what better way to get an idea out there than to use the noteriety you have? Hey, whatever publicity you can give an issue is still publicity.

My complaint is that they, sometimes, do it because its trendy... Not because they feel its right.

[Arkangel]

Originally posted by mbaker
What upsets me is the fact that some celeberties think that just because they appeared in A movie, or did music album, they're automatically political experts reguardless of how much they know.

They are not claiming to be political experts. They are expressing their opinions as American citizens, the same as you are doing on this thread. The only difference is that people actually care what they say so it's published/broadcast by media outlets.

[JustJack]

To say someone's a communist based on the mere fact that they're against war is totally ignorant and clueless on your part. Communism has jack to do with someone not wanting to go to war.

Secondly...war doesn't solve diddly squat. "Yay! Let's s'plode the world!"

Thirdly....you're talking about freedom, here. You're saying that by not supporting this war, someone is saying "no" to freedom, because supposedly in your mind, if we don't go to war then the Taliban and Saddam people are going to take away our land and make our women wear blankets. So...to support war is to support freedom? NO! To actually USE your freedom, and excersize her freedom of speech is to support your Freedom.

This entire thread is just full of crap. Poor Madonna. I dont care what you think of her...someone's priorities in this whole situation are completely messed up...and it's not Madonna's priorities.

This thread is stinky pooh.


P.S- sorry for getting all uptight and whiney there...but...eh. It's true.

[James]

Okay this is off topic and going no where. Points been made about Madonna and about Communists. I think that pretty much covers the title!