Batman Beyond: Possibilities

[Anarky]

I was crossed w/ BB for cutting into production of STAS & TNBA
but with the series done and with new eps of Justice League airing soon, I've been taking some time to review BB on a clean slate.

Overall, it was a good series...especially giving it was completely network-fabricated. The WB did a better job making up BB & his cast than FOX did w/ Spider-Man.

Although I didn't care much for the Dawson's Creek-vibe at times, the series still dark w/ some interesting battles.

Now I wish the WB would pull Static and pick up production on BB again. It won't happen...unless CN decides to do it...but if BB had gone on a bit longer, I would have hoped to have seen a few things/people:

1. Anarky: he may be used on Teen Titans, but he would've made a better match for Terry than Mad Stan. It'd be cool if they were rival college students, in and out of costume.

2. Etrigan: I'm certain Jason Blood would still be alive in Terry's time (approx. 2040 A.D.)

3. HARDAC: the rogue program rebooted. I trust the staff could make HARDAC work w/o making it too similar to "Lost Soul"

4. Mr. Freeze: still alive after "Meltdown" and more vindictive than ever.

5. Blight: it was too bad they scrapped Blight in the first season finale, "Ascension". I know he returned in the comics.

6. J'onn J'onzz: they'd have to explain his absence in "The Call". Perhaps he was in one of his "hibernation cycles".

7. The Lady Shiva: in this case, we could make her the daughter of Kyodai Ken

8. another Stalker episode. he rocked.
9. another Shriek episode
10. perhaps Livewire. She is made of energy now so she could be alive and well in BB-time.

I'm a little dry on ideas right now
feel free to share

[The Detective]

All great ideas. I would have liked to see Terry grow up and go to college. Maybe, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe have Bruce die so we could see Terry becoming his own man in every sense of the word.

What has gotten in to me? Did I just suggest that Ruce Wayne DIE? I must have been possessed!

[Anarky]

nah, don't kill Bruce
he's a combination of Oracle, Alfred & L. Thompkins
i'd even consider changing the title to BATMEN BEYOND, seeing how Terry is the brawn and Bruce is the brains

killing Bruce would be too overwhelming for Terry. He's not ready to handle Gotham on his own AND maintain the Cave alone. Plus he never had the training Bruce had. Maybe it'd be neat if Bruce & Terry went abroad together, not to follow in Bruce's footsteps but to undergo a similar training quest. We've already seen it w/ the dojo (Curse of the Kobra). But leaving Terry on his own is too much for a guy his age.

college would definitely sharpen his mind

[Drachentöter]

In order for the series ever to be fresh and new again, Bruce would have to die. Terry will never mature as the new Batman if he doesn't go alone. He doesn't have the brains yet because he's still in high school. But a college graduate Terry would definitely have what it takes.

If you want, you could give Terry a superhero sidekick. Unlike Max, who doesn't contribute anything, a sidekick with prowess and ability could help Terry. Personally, I think they should let Terry alone for a while, like the first days of BTAS, but there will certainly be some who want a Robin of the Future.

[superfreak]

Love the ideas, I like to see a more mature and experienced Terry; maybe he's in college or a few years out of college. Also I like to see Bruce's and Terry's relationship grow, like Bruce running Wayne Tech and letting Terry go solo.

[BlackoutCreature]

Well the way the series left off i dont think it would be the right time for Bruce to die and Terry to go solo. But another season or 2 of development, and thats where i think the series was headed. Its definately the way the idea should go if they want to really make Terry-Batman something special.

Im glad this thread has remained so open to Batman Beyond too. Most other Batman Beyond "idea" threads i read usually involve people wanting to turn the show in "Batman: Whatever Happened To?", wanting all the shows to center around what characters from Batman:TAS r doing in 40 years (and not one of those character ever dying in that time). I mean, do we really need an episode showing what Killer Croc is doing (if he's doing anything other then acting as fertilizer) in 2040. Im glad u people r keeping a broader mind on Batman Beyond.

The episode of Batman Beyond i always wanted to see would feature an Earth-2/BoP Huntress type character. Essentially the daughter of Bruce Wayne and Catwoman that Bruce never knew about. She comes to Gotham to hunt down her mothers killers and comes across the new Batman, and all the secrets r revealed. I think it would really work.

As for sidekicks, i had a few idea, but not Max. I think she would actually work better replacing Bruce on the Batcomputer. U know, like Terry's Oracle.

[katfairy]

I agree that Max would make a good Oracle-type helper, but she also is capable of doing field work. I do think there is a place for her on the team, even if she never puts on a Batsuit. Actually, I'm one of the ones who hopes she doesn't, even though I like her. It would just be too obvious. But one of the few good things about the episode April Moon is something that illustrates my point- the scene where Terry is ranting to Max. He needs someone his own age to talk to. Max does have her faults, but she is a good friend and she won't give away his secret. She'll try to convince him to tell a few others, but she wouldn't do it herself. The closest she ever came was in another substandard episode, "Unmasked", and even that was a comment anyone could have made without knowing Terry's secret. Besides, she mouths off to Bruce, and he needs that on occasion. :p

As for what I see happening, I would be strongly against the idea of killing off Bruce in the next few years of the show's timeline. Yes, he has a bad heart, but that doesn't mean he couldn't live to be 100. It's not likely, but it is possible. He's got a good 5-10 years left in him, at least.

I think Dana would drift out of Terry's life, probably going to college out of state and finding someone else while she's there. Not because I dislike Dana, but because that's how high school relationships tend to go. Chelsea, on the other hand, would probably stay in touch, but just as a friend (no Terry/Chelsea pairing, though I might work it into a fic someday). Jared, Jackie, and Howard would probably all drift away, too. Blade will probably attend a local college and major in partying. If anyone in the show ends up dead, I think it would be her, probably of an overdose of something. Nelson will get into a better school than he deserves on an athletic scholarship and only return to Gotham to show off what a big man he's become.

Barbara will never be thrilled about Terry being Batman, but she will decide to help him more if only because he might live a little longer if she does. I don't expect a return of the Bat-signal, but she might drop him the odd hint to prevent a recurrence of the beginning of "Eyewitness".

Jack of the Royal Flush Gang might return as a solo villain. Kind of a male Catwoman but with less style. More a rogue than an actual villain. Melanie could get back into gear to stop him; I could see her as a Huntress-type vigilante. I don't see Terry getting back together with her, though.

Mad Stan will finally get the proper medications, retire, and become an insurance salesman. (Yeah, right. :D )

Zeta and Ro, having finally gained Zeta's freedom, will pop up every now and then. Ro will develop a crush on Terry, who will pretend not to notice.

Mary McGinnis will eventually find out the truth about Terry's night job. I can see this going several different ways:
1) She's so proud of him.... obvious, but possible.
2) She flips out at first but gets used to the idea. Think Joyce on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
3) She flips out and orders him to quit. When he refuses it creates a temporary estrangement. She eventually accepts it but continues to disapprove.
4) She flips out and orders him to quit. When he refuses she throws him out and never speaks to him again.
5) She's stunned but deals.
6) She's stunned, grounds Terry until she's had time to think, then goes up to Wayne Manor and rips into Bruce for endangering her boy. After a long conversation, she finally agrees to let him continue, admitting that he probably would whether or not she approved.
Of these, I think 2, 3, and 6 are the most likely, with 2 edging out the others.

It's possible Matt could find out, but I doubt it.

As for Terry himself, I see him going to Gotham U as a business major. Bruce would also be training him to take over the company. I'm not sure how Terry would feel about that, but he'd probably do it because it would make Bruce happy. He would also continue the occasional work with the JLU, possibly getting combat training from Barda and Warhawk. Even if he didn't, Bruce would probably find him a new sensei. Terry would eventually move into Wayne Manor, but only after living on his own for a few years. He would eventually find a new girlfriend, but it would take a while. And whoever she was would have to be someone he could trust with his secrets. But not Max.

I could go on like this for hours (not that you could tell... :p ), but I'm shutting up now.

[DCU Bat]

Well, as much as I reeeeeaaaaaaaallllllllyyy wish BB will never see the light of day again. There are some episodes I wish BB would show.

A Classic villain aprentice :

I dunno why but I always imagined an episode about a new student showing up in Terry's school and him being swave and handsome and striring up all the ladies including Dana which makes Terry mad. Then Terry investigates a series of heists lead by a mysterious figure using hi-tech umbrellas (sounds familiar?). Later on, Terry finds out that the new student in school is acually being raised by an old deformed Penguin (ala Batman Returns).

I dunno I guess I wanted to see all that psycological drama that involved Penguin raising an outcast boy like himself and the friction they have together and it'll be to see a swave guy in a tux pulling off heists with hi-tech umbrellas and who could also be a real rival for Terry.

The Return of Vandal Savage :

C'mon, I mean the guy's immortal. What make's you think he wont show up on the BB timeline and stir up some trouble?

The Flash Beyond :

Terry teams up with the Next Generation Speedster. It'd be cool cool to see Terry and a new Flash work together since they both seem "Spider-manish".

Future of Themyscira :

Since Barda replaced Diana on "The Call" I'm sure her case must be special. I can see Wonder Woman giving up her title and becoming the new queen of Themyscira and then we see some rouge amazons invading Gotham for some reason (much like JL's "Fury) and we can have Bruce and Diana meet up again with a bit of tension and relation friction.

[The Detective]

I can't believe I didn't think of Vandal Savage! They guy is immortal of course he would still be around! *fan fic mind shifting into high gear*

[James]

I'd like the creators to have found a more relavant role for Max. Something a little more grounded and relevant rather than playing second fiddle to either Dana or Bruce.

I'd like to have seen Gordon thrown into the mix a bit more. After ROTJ and the coming together of her, Tim and Bruce I would like to have seen how the old school played out!

I'd have also liked to have seen Dana and Terry sort out their relationship. Preferably with Terry losing Dana for a while and actually realising he treated the girl like dirt. A reunion and a development in their relations would have been great.

Yes, Terry going to college would have been good, more Tim/Babs/Bruce scenes. An episode with Dick, another Inque. Mad Stan should have reappeared as well as Blight.

So many things you can so with that show. Pity none of the above came about... :(

[HelloKittyKat]

My idea for future stories of Batman Beyond: bring in a fellow hero to fight by Terry's side in the form of Azrael

[The Detective]

I'm against Terry getting a Robin like sidekick. It just wouldn't work with what they've done with BB. Hey, how about a team up with Terry and Superman? The World's Finest team of the future!

[Freeze]

I'm also against Terry getting a Robin like sidekick. Terry doesn't need a Bat family like Bruce did. Terry has his own real family. Why fabricate one, unless of course Terry's mom and brother are bumbed off.

If the show were to come back, Terry should either be in his last year or two of college or better yet have already finished college (with a day job at Wayne Powers :p). Terry needs to develope his detective skills more. He shouldn't have to rely on Bruce all the time.

Max should become more Oracle like for Terry. Heck, maybe even have her rent an apartment in a Clock Tower, with Barbara as her landlord.

Barbara should wake up to the fact that Terry isn't going away and develope a stronger relationship with Terry, like her father did with Bruce. It could even be a stronger relationship because unlike her father she knows who Batman is.

Lastly, DUMP DANA!!! :D

[James]

Originally posted by Freeze

Max should become more Oracle like for Terry. Heck, maybe even have her rent an apartment in a Clock Tower, with Barbara as her landlord.


But then what would happen to Bruce? Bruce functions as the shows Oracle, give it to Max and you kill Bruce's airtime!



Lastly, DUMP DANA!!! :D

If one had to dump the other, surely Dana deserves the honour of Dumping Terry. He does deserve it.

[Freeze]

Originally posted by SJJ
But then what would happen to Bruce? Bruce functions as the shows Oracle, give it to Max and you kill Bruce's airtime!

Bruce would still be Terry's mentor and would be the only one that would have access to see what Terry sees throught the suit. Max could be used for research, as a backup to Bruce.




If one had to dump the other, surely Dana deserves the honour of Dumping Terry. He does deserve it.

I don't care who gets the honor, just as long as she is gone.

[BlackoutCreature]

Originally posted by SJJ
But then what would happen to Bruce? Bruce functions as the shows Oracle, give it to Max and you kill Bruce's airtime!


Well when i first suggested that Max be Terry's Oracle, i kinda meant her to take the function after Bruce's death (something i still think would eventually need to happen if Batman Beyond were to continue).

[James Harvey]

I would've loved to have seen a huge gang war between the hundreds of supposed Jokerz in Gotham. Just hundreds in this huge battle royale. I was hoping we'd actually see a real war between the three groups. That is something I would be amazed to see. A nice two-parter or another DTV. Batman Beyond: Gang Warfare sounds sorta cool!

[James]

A nice two-parter or another DTV. Batman Beyond: Gang Warfare sounds sorta cool!

*urges Jim to slip the idea in under a long *cough* if he get's a Timm/Dini interview in the near future...* ;)

[JonnyQuest]

I've been playing with the idea, that What if Terry didn't become Batman, he had not met Bruce Wayne ?

With his father killed by the Jokers, what happens to Terry, granted I would think that he would have gone to crimes, trying to make the pain go away....

Well, it's still in development hell for me, but it's a pretty cool idea, I think.

JQ

[Toooonfan]

Anarky;

Earlier you said that it would be cool if Etrigan and Terry met. They did...twice! But it was in the comics.

[Manhunter]

Originally posted by SJJ
If one had to dump the other, surely Dana deserves the honour of Dumping Terry. He does deserve it.

More than likely, that's how it'd go. Especially if she found out the truth about his "other life".

Even though Dana can be a bit b-i-t-c-h-y.